Every stock of every company is just a number completely detached from reality.What you're buying is a bet that a specific stock will go up in future. You have no say in corporate governance. Company's earning reports mean shit, they won't cover your losses in any way. You can't predict the price other than watching others buying and hoping you won't be that last fool with bags. You don't even own the product, you are not investing.Think about it. A couple years ago Intel went down from $70 at $20. Does that mean company shrank by 3.5 times? Fuck no. Did they stop producing product? No. All that happened because people with gambling disorder closed their bets.So why on Earth do we call them investors?
>A couple years ago Intel went down from $70 at $20. Does that mean company shrank by 3.5 times? Fuck no. Did they stop producing product? No. All that happened because people with gambling disorder closed their bets.I happened to have bought Intel at $20 in fall 2024. THIS ENTIRE BOARD was 100% convinced intel is over because their CPU's catch rust and they are going bankrupt in 2 weeks. Dishonorable mention goes to /g/ tards as well. Literally everyone thought that. The market is just retarded people that's it, that's the whole story. Even me, I fucking sold at $50
They have setup the entire system to benefit their buttonwood agreement casino, especially by taxing real money gold regressively and taxing earned income regressively. It all makes sense if you understand they only want you putting capital in the casino
>>62156482Not at all. Some are bagholding to 0.
The stock of publicly listed companies which are...–Profitable–Predictable–Not undergoing a massive restructuration–Not dependent on ever releasing new innovative products... can more or less have an intrinsic value estimated, treating their cash flows as if those of a bond.Valuing a photonics, neo-cloud or memory stock as of now may be a foolish endeavour, that much is true.
>>62156482A casino or the lottery will actual give you a net nothing, correctly identifying stocks that have room to go or drop will net you money as long as you don't accidentally lose it with a bad investment.
>>62157034>correctly identifying>accidentally lose>b-but I'm not a gambler owkay?LMAO
>>62156482>Every stock of every company is just a number completely detached from reality.>What you're buying is a bet that a specific stock will go up in future. But they pay you a dividend, right anon? Your investments pay you dividends and sometimes buy back shares in addition to paying out, right? Right???
Buybacks, dividends, mergers, voting rights, there's lots of intrinsic value in company shares.
>>62156482I'm buying a % share of a company which entitles me to that % share of future profits (buybacks and dividends).If I think there will be even more profits in the future, I'm willing to pay (what appears to be) a premium right now for that.If I think the company can invest in itself at a better rate than I can invest, then I don't mind the lack of dividends/buybacks.How the fuck do you not know this stuff?
>>62156482You are buying ownership of a company. Is owning a business gambling?
>>62157311>>62156482Cause if you are going to call that gambling, then what exactly is “investing” to you? That word, “investing”, may as well not exist in your vocabulary, should it? Call everything gambling, owning real estate is gambling cause what of natural disasters? Owning farmland is gambling , cause what if gov stops subsidizing? Dumb fuck retard, tell me what investing is
>>62157323Wow u mad. Your hand didn't play out?
>>62157206>Buybacks>dividendsNobody does that anymore. Also, it's for thee not for me. You're buying numbers in a spreadsheet.>mergersSame. You are not entitled.>voting rightsThat's special type of stocks you don't buy. And even if you did your vote means nothing because those who have 51% decide.Stay in the world of dream, gambler.
>>62157323They don't call it "gambling" to save face. But it's gambling. The stock market is now a literal Casino and you know it.
>>62156482>be me working at industrial factory>building new process equipment>engineer tells me: This new equipment will reduce pollution by 200%, use the pollution to make a new product and increase the usual production by 10 fold!>Look up company>yea I should buy this stock>make lots of moneyThe process we built was never done before on a huge industrial scale only in a lab, so there was a chance it wouldn't work but engineer bro was very positive. Idk if this in insider trading? IDGAF
>>62156482gambling is betting against the house. Investing is betting for the house
>>62158869Gamblers don't give a flying fuck what happens to the company after they sell their bet.