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Why does /biz hate Pokemon? I've literally told many of you for YEARS to invest in it but you all still think it's just a stupid card game for children.
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>>62181426
No I rather not sit on ebay all day getting messages from browns trying to haggle the prices down. Easier and more convient ways to make money, this shit will have so many bagholders just like the meme sport cards
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I have a box of pokemon cards that I had when I was a kid, are they worth anything or just the rare shiny card in absolute peak mint condition?
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>>62181426
How can shiny plastic cards cost so much? Even if they're limited in supply, how can there exist so much demand for them?
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>>62181436
only the holos are really worth something and it mostly depends on how beat up they are, but these days even the commons are worth $1 now
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>>62181438
crypto can be tracked now, whales are now moving into collectibles. and the supply is artificially limited to the point that people are literally getting into fights and shootings over pokemon. I have to line up for hours at walmart and target just to get a box, scalpers are too and it's so profitable they can easily make $100 or so a day just flipping whatever they get.
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Trading card collectors are some dysgenic motherfuckers
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>>62181478
Pokemon cards are a useless store of value unless you can offload them to a Pokemon fan, or someone who thinks they can then offload them to a Pokemon fan.

Gold, silver, and other precious metals are more of a universal store of value, and they also have practical applications so there will always be some guaranteed demand for them. What do Pokemon cards do other than hang being a glass pane on a collector's wall?
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>>62181493
Zoomers and Gen a don't even give a fuck . It's just cringe basedlenials buying this shit
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>>62181426
It SHOULD be a silly card game for children. Instead it's stupid shiny cardboard for manchildren featuring the past they'll never let go of because they're scared of the present and future. As well as horrific goblins seeking a quick buck. I'll have no part in it.
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>>62181509
Nintendo can make it into a card game for children at any time, by printing more of the rare cards, but Nintendo being greedy prefer the current artificial scarcity.
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>>62181529
Let's sponsor some viral videos of niggers and Indians in Africa crying about not being able to play pokemon because it's too expensive. This will turn the card printers on like nothing else
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>>62181493
You don't realize just how many hardcore Pokemon fans are out there, do you? It's not just in the US either, there was chaos yesterday in South Korea over a free Pokemon card that was being given away as a promo.
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This is not a real economy. It's over.
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>>62181529
If you print too much people stop giving a shit about it, that's what happened to Yugioh
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>>62181426
That chart has a shape like it was drawn by hand

Shit market with no liquidity for retards
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>>62181438
Simple, people have lots of money.
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>>62181543
90% of the people there are just scalping, the entire hobby is people flipping shit until the music stops.
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>>62181426
>Why does /biz/ hate tulips? I've literally told many of you for YEARS to invest in it but you all still think it's just a flower for foppish dandies.
Gee I wonder why a purely speculative commodity with zero utility or exit liquidity is unpopular. This shit is like beanie babies where it's only people who are speculators buying this shit, and quietly, in 10-20 years, it's all going to be fucking worthless and sell on Future-Ebay for pennies on the dollar.
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>>62181426
there are 100 charizard with purple dicks that each one costs 500 usd. One guy has 10 of these cards. He sells one to his friend for 1 million dollars. Now the marketcap is 100 million dollars. He is worth now 9 million dollars.
Fake shit that happens every time a new kind of unregulated asset is created to abuse an inexperienced market.
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>>62182872
>and quietly, in 10-20 years, it's all going to be fucking worthless and sell on Future-Ebay for pennies on the dollar.

Here's the one thing you don't understand about Pokemon card collectors - most of them WANT that to happen. And it's their very desire in wanting these shiny cards that has fueled the market for the past 30 years. And btw Beanie Babies still has collectors too, I just sold a bunch of my mom's collection recently on ebay for $100.
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>>62181438
Is art collecting for zoomers and millennials.
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I have over 200k worth of Pokémon cards. I’m glad I didn’t sell it for useless crypto shit lol
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>>62181426
Too much hassle to physically liquidate your stock. Pass.
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>>62183004
>Here's the one thing you don't understand about Pokemon card collectors - most of them WANT that to happen. And it's their very desire in wanting these shiny cards that has fueled the market for the past 30 years.
You can always tell when it's a youngfag poster trying to feign experience and knowledge. What are you, 22 or some shit?
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>>62183046
goddamn, how did you get a shadowless zard?? did you buy it when it was still cheap?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oJmGLLDpp0

Lol

Pokemon scalping/magic card scalping/warhammer model scalping removes even the thin veneer of legitimacy you might have buying and selling shares of pennystock gold miners or crypto memecoins and takes you into full on "so you're a fucking jackass" territory.
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>>62181438
There's two different sources of demand

People trying to actually play the game who are forced to them buy boxes from faggoty scalpers to acquire decks (though if they're 40yo waacfags, don't feel bad, but I do feel for millennial parents trying to give their kids a childhood)

The second is other faggot scalpers/"collectors" trying to buy because they think it'll be worth even more in the future "OOP, graded, mint condition".
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>>62181478
Yeah I want to get stabbed by a nog over pokemon cards, that's what I want to do.

I honestly prefer just working a meme office job as a legal assistant, 25/hr, that's fine with me. I don't need to 'make it big' on pokemon cards. Retard.
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>>62181504
>basedlennials
Let's dispell the notion that people born after the year 2000 aren't the biggest fucking faggots to ever exist in any timeline. This notion broccoli hard 40% lgbt, black slang using, tiktok addicted, 'looksmaxxing' cringe college zoomzooms have that they're cool because they're young needs to end If you're blatantly an uncool faggot, being 22 won't fix that for you.
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Alternate Currency: Pokemon cards are an alternate currency outside the governments control

Vested Interest: People who pump have a strong desire to keep the Pokemon market running hot

Ridiculous Valuations: Scarcity, demand, condition. These factors amplify prices beyond normal comprehension

Revenge of the Nerds: Most Pokemon fans have so much disposable cash because they work in lucrative, geeky fields

Think of the Children: Poke-mania is a plague that has infested every generation since it arrived

Cardboard Tsunami: If you think Pokemon cards are overprinted, just look at the diabolical pull rates for the top chase cards

Sense of Belonging: The hobby grows daily because Pokemon fans are wholesome and friendly in general

Gamba Grindset: Opening packs is essentially legalized gambling for children and the appeal isn’t going away any time soon

Hoarding Sickness: Sentimental people have no intention of selling because their cards represent precious memories or emotional attachments

Sensei Knows Best: Japan is famous for their careful treatment of the brand because they see Pokemon as a national treasure

Eternal Icons: Pikachu never has to retire. Charizard never tore an ACL. These characters are always in their prime

Investment-grade FOMO: You can always count on rich people to become envious of anything that gains value without them. Now they’re dogpiling in

Do You Feel Lucky Punk: So you got lucky opening your pack, winning your bid, etc. Why not roll the dice again and get it graded for peak gainz

Eagle Eye: Study these cards closely and you’ll see they’re printed with a number of anti-counterfeit measures

Swindler’s Paradise: People don’t value cards correctly. This leaves all kinds of wiggle room for haggling and arbitrage

Lost Forever: Nobody knew this would happen. A good percentage of vintage cards are rotting in landfills, flooded in the basement, etc.
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>>62183100
Thanks AnonGPT
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>>62183078
Oh please, crypto is fucking dead at this point now. Pokemon is still an actual tangible item that you can hold onto IRL, it's like paintings that richfags collect.
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>>62181426
I wish the same thing would happen to 40k.
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Concentrated Value: A lightweight collection of cards could hold enough value to buy a house outright. Heavy purchasing power in the palm of your hand

Animal Instincts: Monkey want shiny. Monkey follow trend. Don't underestimate these fundamental laws of nature

Pallet of Pleasure: There's intense demand for sealed products which are logistically simple and have the highest liquidity

Laugh at Inflation: Pokémon card holders stand proud when comparing their holdings against USD

Picassos are Cheesy: Historically money laundering schemes involving artwork were reserved for the elites. Miniature handheld artwork is superior because it has a larger natural market cap

Mogging Crypto: Pokémon cards have seen higher gains than crypto and enjoy more speculative upside than crypto, in exchange for patience

Can't Survive Without It: There's a considerable micro-economy of people who benefit from this hype every month. Etsy plushies, homemade crafts, fan art cards. All profitable

Safe Haven: Massive armies of LGBTQ consoomers and groomers and furry wierdos keep this market propped up with their obsessive buying

Clown World Casino: Prediction markets, fractional ownership, celebrity endorsement. Pokémon thrives among this nonsense

Greater Fool Theory: There's always someone willing to make worse financial decision than you

Chinese Water Torture: I bet you hate seeing Pokémon references in places where they don't belong. Day after day, smug assholes derailing your board. Just join us
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too illiquid and counterfeits are getting too good
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>>62183004
Here's the thing about pokemon "collectors" most of them don't stay in the hobby for more than 5 years, most of them are just passing through. If you actually understood the history of the pokemon market, and participated in it outside of the relatively recent booms, you'd know that current valuations are all speculative hype. I'm just a humble autist who collected before these speculative retards entered the space, and I've netted quite the hefty profit off of their naive investment thesis.
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>>62181426
>Muh physical bing bing wahoo NFTs
Lol, lmao even.
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>>62181438
Try actually selling though - it's an illiquid market.
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>>62183306
>He keeps dealing in the real world instead of monetizing bing bing wahoos
Kek, ngmi even.
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>>62183191
>actual tangible
That does nothing because it's a children's toy, you fucking idiot. Cryptocoins like Hype next year or Avantis last year or Aero in 2024 went the distance and minted millionaires because they have utility within the crypto ecosystems whether that be RWAs, Perpdexes or Basechain, but you're too much of a retarded scammer faggot to understand the difference between something like SNDK, a stock which deals in NAND DRAM 10xing in 8 months and your little worthless beanie baby bubble because like I said in your head youv'e removed even the veneer of this shit being useful and probably are upset because you invested in dogcoins or BAYC in 2021 because you're not a serious person.
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>>62183400
> Cryptocoins like Hype next year or Avantis last year or Aero in 2024
> because you're not a serious person.

I’ll take Pokémon over this garbage any day of the week.
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>>62181426
an article like this = top is in.

look for the next thing
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>>62181426
i assume that only english and japanese cards are worth something? i got a vendor machine where you can buy german packs but nobody uses it
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>>62181426
>it's just a stupid card game for children.
correct
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where am i supposed to sell 4 of these things without getting scammed?
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You are unironically not bullish enough on Nintendo. See past the fud. See how they already are the next Disney and will control the entertainment industry for the next 15 years and at least for the next 100 years.
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I collect magic cards
I find the game fun and me and my friends play together every few weeks.
Its a comfy investment but not a great one.
pokemon seems lonely since no one actually plays the game.
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>>62183016
Yeah and the art market is totally controlled by a bunch of NY Jews.
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>>62183488
Any local card shop will buy that due to its rarity, just keep calling up all the ones in your area. Goddamn I still feel sick to the stomach thinking how many of those I opened back when it was still cheap.
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>>62183494
They've almost surpassed Disney already.
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>>62183736
i dont wanna sell for half price though. card shops are all run by jews that will look you in the eye and shake your hand as they lie to you and rape you
>ebay buyers will scam me
>fb marketplace buyers will jump me and rob me
>card shops will rape me
>not gonna sit at a table at a convention and talk to 8 year olds and their single dads all day either
i think im just fucked
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>>62183742
Good, don't sell it because it's just going to keep going up in value anyway. In 10 years it'll probably be worth almost $10k anyway.
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>>62183751
this is the top
https://x.com/ashrobin/status/2050649139185115368
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>>62183755
He's talked about Pokemon for years though, that's nothing new. The absolute peak will probably be this September when the 30th anniversary set comes out. After that will probably be a cool off period but Pokemon always comes back up over time.
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>>62183082
I couldn't imagine being a legal assistant. That shit is gay.

t. Lawyer
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>>62183776
thats ai slop
but yeah youre right it cant die before the anniversary
is there info on the real 30th anniversary set yet?
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>>62181438
It's basically fallout bottlecap money.
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>>62181426
Nigga this went 5x in one year, the only position you should have now is short position.
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>>62181426
My very first business idea as a little kid was a website for tabulating the rarity + prices of pokemon cards
My dad talked me out of it since he thought there would be no demand and that I'd have no way of finding out all the rarities and keeping up with it all by myself
I hope I don't accidentally discourage my kids from their ideas with how hard they'll be to actualize before they actually give it an honest try
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>>62183787
nothing yet, TPC only reveals info on new sets a few weeks before it actually comes out

>>62183951
Ouch, you missed out badly and your dad is a dumbass boomer. That's what tcgplayer is now.
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>>62181426
Have you managed to sell at a profit? Like big money 20k or more.
I suspect it suffers a lot from liquidity specially if you are not in USA.
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>>62183046
No you think that you have 200k worth. I can sell my Bitcoin right now you have to go through 20 hoops and talk to brown subhumans all day trying to haggle you down. No thanks
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ai slop doing better job than those pokechink
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>>62184131
I can touch my pokemon cards right now you have to rely on a distributed system filled with scammers and hopeless narratives.
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>>62183494
I got an unopened regular new 3ds xl. Looks like they are selling for $900 on fleebay. I paid about $150 on sale a long as time ago.

Who is buying this? I should probably just sell now right. The battery in it is probably useless now but I guess whoever buys it wouldn't open it either



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