>>62193147
It's 1 million now after inflation

I already have 100k but feel pretty poor still because like 2/3 of it is locked in retirement accounts

>>62193209
that quote is so old it would unironically be at least 500k now

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>fiat currency
Lol

>>62193208
/thread

>>62193147
maybe afford a hotdog.

>>62193147
The problems for me started after hitting that number

onlyfans with my cute latina ts girlfriend

>>62193147
doordash of course

He said that in the 90s. So $259,193.88 according to the inflation calculators if we assume 1990. Incidentally about what I have in stocks atm (268k), plus 200k in crypto. The vast majority of it from hustling and scrimping and saving for half a decade. I don't even have lights on unless I'm in the room. Only heat is a space heater in the bedroom during winter. Pretty confident I'll hit 1m before another half a decade. Thanks for reading my blog. Just wanted to post because these threads are always full of blackpillers as you see above

>>62193147
Yeah how old is that nigga? Oh he’s fuckin dead now? Hope he stored some teasures in the kingdom of heaven.

Ok let's assume it's 200k now, what happens next?
You just dump everything in the S&P?

>>62193560
another really good method of saving is I buy bulk chicken meat on day of expiry for half off already low price, and cook myself

>>62193586
Statistical forward returns for s&p500 at the current price/earning ratio can be 2% or below. Imho 4-5-6-7 low cost etfs/funds and don't get too exposed to one thing

>>62193586
Then it turns into 2 billio ... oh wait he's full of shit

>>62193208
came here to say this. party is over.

>>62193147
Yeah bro, I'm sure that dude had ZERO connections or familial wealth, he was a poorfag who grew up washing dishes, had to pull himself up by his bootstraps.

>>62193208
*10

>>62193560
Thank you anon. I'm so sick of blackpillers

>>62193147
An old man made 100k in his early 20s, when was that 40s early 50s? with inflation, what he is saying the first million to 10 million is a bitch

>>62193899
How much can you save monthly if you really try? If we assume you can save $1k a month and you start at $100k, at 10% annual returns you get to $50k/yearly free extra income after a decade just from your investments
https://iqfy.com/compound?s=100000~USD~10~12~10~12~1000~3
After 20 years, you get $166,177/yr. Your account has grown to $1,661,766

>>62193945
Doing a generous scenario, starting at 300k, with 500 each months at 5%, that would make 28,588$ in interest, yearly.
No bad, of course, but I doubt you can stop working with this, especially if we include taxes and such.

>>62193945
Max inflation is 10% every 30 minutes. You are losing a lot of money there.

>>62193945
30 years: $4,912,642
40 years: $13,855,350

You don't get a hell of a lot extra if you increase the monthly contribution

The point is (play around with the compound calc) that interest rapidly starts to take over and doing all the work for you. But you have to do like Munger said and strive for a chunk of money to kickstart this process. Far less than $1m

>>62193974
I do it in my country's version of an IRA - no taxation until I start to take out money and even then there will no taxable events until I have withdrawn every bit of principal. So I probably won't get taxed ever. You can do the same in USA but I won't pretend to understand all the roth ira and backdoor roth ira rules

>>62193209
>like 2/3 of it is locked in retirement accounts
that means you dont have 100k, retard.

>>62194103
I have 800k in after tax cash and don't know what to do with it

>>62193147
ok i have over 100k, now what?

In your Dollars I already have 417,000.
95% of which was magicked to me via surprise inheritance. Funny how things go. I'm trying my best to break my track record and be sensible with the money.
A mixture of short term money-market funds, happy to wait a few years for some crash action. They say not to try and time the market and then sit in cash... make that make sense, I'm doing the same.
The rest is in index funds and individual, solid value, cash generative (for the most part) stocks.

>>62194137
fuck that go all in at xrp

>>62194120
you could rope yourself with it

>>62194142
I don't believe in crypto at all anymore, sorry anon. I gave it a decade, it doesn't do anything. The rest is a matter of time, but nothing will change that fundamental truth for me. It has as much value as this post I'm writing for you.

>>62193147
Corpse looks like he's been to Epstein's island... or his new mexico rape dungeon complex....

>>62193586
S&P is for retarded boomers imo

99% of the holdings bring down the few that continue to outperform, and those will only grow further ahead as the fund is weighted.

Better of only buy google and apple for the safe bets, and then a few choice ai hype picks like sandisk and micron that still have no end in sight after going up 10% day after day

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>>62193208
He said it in the late 90s, so it's more like 200K. But due to capital inflation it is probably 400K.
A better way to interpret this quote is that you need to reach a point where your capital starts earning you more than you can reasonably save per year.

>>62193147
Just doing my 9-5 while attempted to minimize my cognitive workload so I can actually work on side projects. I hope to escape the wagie-dom in the next year or 2.

>>62194142
>>62194159
Yeah is that guy for real or just a bot? I laughed tho.
We aught to make a new board or something to separate the crypto shit. I made $120k from it back in the day but it's 100% never coming back anywhere close to the levels previous.
Sports betting has captured that degen demographic of previous bull runs.

At this point /smg/ is the only reason most people come here if they aren't retarded

>>62194274
>He said it in the late 90s, so it's more like 200K
That's according to CPI which is cooked as fuck.
The real inflation rate is multiple times that of the fake CPI.

>>62194155
>Coastal Compass 100 ETF (ROPE)
Interdasting

>>62194274
Kek this is so true. Once I was riding my bicycle around town because NEET with nothing else to do. I noticed that some guy in a lambo was also doing pointless laps around town (he passed me about three times).

>>62194266
No company is too big to fail. IBM was one of the most dominant companies for decades and now they're not even in the top 40. Nvidia was nowhere near the top until the AI boom.

IBM hasn't "failed" but if you invested heavily into them while ignoring some monkey-ass company trying to appeal to gamers, you would have lost on IBM while missing out on Nvidia's growth. Hedging against risk comes at the expense of maximizing profit. You can't have both.

>>62193828
Sure but I'd rather put my kid in a position closer to his starting position rather than wallow in misery whining about how hard it is.

>>62193560
I can sort of respect cost-cutting measures but taking things to that extreme to save money makes it sound like you're living to save money instead of living to enjoy your money. If trying to save a dime here and there isn't costing you anything mentally, then more power to you but if I have to worry about whether or not I'll have an extra $100 in 30 years because I might have forgotten to turn off a light a few times doesn't seem worth the stress.

ill settle for a dirty sanchez instead of splurging on the full cleveland steamer

>>62193147
Extreme budgeting, working weekends. The trick is that you will NEVER get to $100,000 quickly simply by working (unless you are a high earner). You have to TRADE in to $100,000. This means finding some assets you like and dumping all of your money into what is cheap. When it values you take profits and find something else that is cheap.
It's actually true, it only took me a few years and before I knew it I found myself being a simple 3x away from being a millionaire thanks to a few things:
1 - Physical Silver
2 - GME
3 - Selling options
4 - Temporarily using covered call ETFs when nothing feels cheap. (No point in holding them long term. When GME drops to $20 I roll the divvie portfolio into GME and sell calls.
Simply by watching, reading and studying long enough you'll see things that work. No, I don't bother timing trades or TA. It was far easier than I thought it would be too.

>>62194684
>just get lucky

>>62194684
It took me about 3 years of extreme budgeting and hard working to go from a total net worth of $20 to having ~$100,000 invested so I don't know why you're insisting gambling is necessary.

I had only invested in ETFs. My focus and energy was on work.

>>62194745
>leveraged ETFs aren't gambling

>>62194756
They weren't leveraged. And every time you walk outside I suppose that's a gamble too.

>walking everywhere
sure let me cross the highway on foot to get to my job 60 miles away
>coupons
meme from 30 years ago

his wisdom is sound but his methods are a bit outdated

>>62194608
It's not stress though. You would be surprised at how little you actually need.

>>62194711
No. I was quite deliberate in what I bought and when I bought it.
>>62194745
That's all well and good, but if you bagged yourself a 3x-5x you can make some substantial gains. Even earning a 10% ROI on a safe covered call fun could take you 7 years to double your money (at the same time inflation is eroding your money). You can cover much more ground looking for a decent investment and taking a risk to get many multiples of gains and possible save yourself literal decades of labor-hours.
The truth of the the matter is, we are all underpaid in an overvalued asset and the economy is saturated with debt. Trying to play it safe using boomer wisdom will not lend you enough time to make it work. You want to get a big trade under your belt to help kickstart your portfolio. Your main goal is to also hoard as much precious metals as you can for when it does finally get revalued.
You might not like it, but in this late hour I think fortune favors the bold. The sheep playing by the rules will be the ones to get sheered. The problem has a solution, and you can make any long or short trade you wish. And that means you have a way to profit no matter what happens.
Most people aren't smart enough or well read enough to navigate it. But I think it's obvious. 2026 investing has been SOLVED.

>>62193147
This has been my trajectory so far:
May 2015: $-160k
Aug 2017: $1k
Jan 2018: $100k
Feb 2020: $250k
Nov 2020: $500k
Jan 2021: $750k
Feb 2021: $1000k
Sep 2021: $1500k
Feb 2024: $2000k
Dec 2024: $2500k
Now: $2100k

>>62193560
>$259,193.88 according to the inflation calculators if we assume 1990
i refuse to believe youre retarded enough to think this is true. its just not possible

In january I was going to swing trade sandisk. February 28th it was USO. In march I was going to buy MUU at 150, the gap, and sell the rip. I was going to buy SNXX at 30 bucks on april 1st. I would have made like 200k in 3 months.

>>62195245
It's the only objective measure we can reference. The rest of the people in the thread said the inflated number was anything from 400k to 10m.

But you don't get it if you think there's a Magic Munger Number at $400k and you've lost the game if you "only" have $259k. Even if you only have 50k - if you start saving now and put more in monthly, you'll make it fine

>>62194608
The light switch I don't even think about, it's just instinct. But when you start to see results and you believe in compounding, budgetingmaxxing is an enjoyable activity like playing a video game you like

Pure meme, nothing got any quicker or easier for me after crossing 100k or even 200k

>>62195697
They just sit in a bank account? Otherwise that doesn't make any sense. 100k helps you save 8k extra per year at 8% market return, and then the next year 8% of 108 is 8.64, and in the third year you get 9.3312 extra. Your initial 100k is already 125.97 without any effort or additional principal on your part

>>62194274
>He said it in the late 90s, so it's more like 200K.
More like $380,000.

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Just spend your life's work acquiring boomer rocks and let the jews take care of the rest.

>>62193614
I admire your discipline that attitude used to be prevalent here. but unfortunately now it's the minority. the only expense I won't compromise on is protein (chicken, beef, lamb) and gym membership. I see older guys in their 50/60s who are jacked bouncing around the gym and I think that would be that much more time I could work/invest if I take care of myself and lift heavy. what are you investing in?

>>62196709
nice. I used to use APMEX's portfolio tracker too. I liquidated when we hit $5,300 and put it into my mortgage. I remember buying when it was $1,700. Looking back the only issue I had was that if you ordered from them you instantly lost $250 from the premium and then I refused to order anything except through my credit card in case the delivery got lost in the mail. I read too many horror stories of debit card purchases disappearing and the bank not backing the buyer. so for instance right now if I wanted to buy a 1 oz Gold Eagle, I would lose $600, which is almost a share of SPY.

another piece of advice to anons here and their first 100k. keep some of that in cash. I always have 1000 in my wallet and my submariner on me wherever I go. not to flex, but you never know when someone will try to sue, divorce, paternity you. if you guys are saving all this money other people WILL start to notice. so keep some liquid and be ready to move cities overnight if you have to.

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>>62196760
>gym membership
you realize exercise is free right?

I have £233k across a few different pensions, investment accounts and company stocks. Just living relatively frugally, putting most of my wages away, sheltering it from tax and letting it accumulate. Planning to retire in my early 50s.

>>62196909
This is one of the things I implemented as part of my extreme budgeting. I believe that "subscription services" are one of the single biggest destroyers of people's finances. I bought some basic gym equipment many years ago and I can work out for free in my garage. I prefer to OWN dvds and quality movies rather than pay for cable or Netflix.
Give up expensive vacations. A cruise might cost you $2000 after you pay for it all. But imagine redirecting all of that money into something that lasts such as camping gear. One missed cruise vacation can be all you need to afford other things you get more mileage out of. Expensive hobbies such as mindlessly buying Magic Cards? Get rid of it. Learn to enjoy the things you already have. Recreation can be just as rewarding going to a local park for a walk or play frisbee golf for free with a $10 frisbee.
A couple of years ago, I had a month where I only spent $300 (not counting rent, utilities, and insurance, phone etc). Do you know how easy it is to acquire some bullshit covered call ETFs to pay you $300 per month? A $3 dividend is literally 1% of your cost of living. When you only spend $200 your FCF is open to get dumped into more investments to make even more money outside of your 9-5 job.

>>62195082
>Aug 2017: $1k
>Jan 2018: $100k
inheritance?

>>62196760
>premium
Yeah this always sucked and I really don't trust the mailmen either. Even if they don't rob you, you never know what they might let slip. Those gold eagles often take a separate route up until local delivery (because they were getting stolen closer to the source) so your local mailman must know what's up when all the special mail gets added to the route.
It prevented me from buying a lot more. And especially now that it's so high I don't want to accumulate more (miners maybe though).

>>62197007
I refuse to have any subscription. I can't believe people pay for multiple streaming services and amazon and the gym and ebooks. And now AI.
>I neeeeeed to use my fancy goybox plugged into the tv
>what do you mean plug my computer in?
>yandex? you mean windex lol
>nooooo my AI girlfriend is a utility as important as water and electricity

>>62193147
I already reached that point last year. Next stop is 1 million.

>>62197096
Nah, 2017 crypto bull run

100k is a bitch, once you gain that 150k, you can take it easier some, just put half of those 200k into a good fund, yeah 300k will get you far, you really just have to get that first million by any means necessary

>>62197125
>I refuse to have any subscription.
People don't realize that they have been raised to treat their money like arcade-tickets instead of capital assets. They have largely lost perspective of what it means to have a functioning economy when the average American experience is boundless wealth sitting on shelves in seeming infinite quantity.
They will be able to tell you they don't expect to receive social security but they haven't the slightest thought in their head on how to proceed with their lives knowing that fact.
People don't realize that their APPEARANCE of wealth stems solely from the fact that the financial system has no surplus. All value is consumed immediately and it is by the funtion of the bond market that these institutions are able to take in and pay out money as it is needed. But the underlying capital assets are accounted for and owned by others many many times over.
We never found some magical panacea that makes humanity post-scarcity. We just don't have any savings. (We use credit instead).
If you want to give me your paycheck today so I can go to Vegas and party it all away you can. Maybe I'll toss you $100 every now and then so you think I am honest. 20 years from now you come looking for your money? Sorry, I spent it all on wars for isreal. It's all gone. Spent. Caput. You get NOTHING but a tax-bill that says you owe the government six million dollars.

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I went to Fort McMurray and worked my ass off. Saved as much as I could. Invested it all. after the first $100k they just start compounding, getting out of 6 figs hell is the real question.

After 37 years old just give up, you are done

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>>62193147
I think I could make 100k at least in the last or next six months. I work at Amazon and let's I do 60hr work weeks and put away $2000, every month. Six months I have $18k. All in BTC, and if BTC goes to ATH or even to $140k then Ai have $36K. Another six months but this time tone the overtime down and just bring in $2k. In a year I am at $48k. Almost halfway there, now I just go back to my regular wages no overtime and put away $1000 every month while I search for a 2x

>>62194684
>Physical Silver
This.
The USD is dying. If you're not at least 25% in physical silver at this point, you're going to be fucked in the future.

>>62197007
>DVDs
lol, boomer.
But seriously, no. When Netflix was just a DVD rent-by-mail it was fantastic because it was $7-12 a month I could watch all of the Criterion Collection without having to pay $20-30 per movie, and I've watched them now and will never watch them again because I don't care.
I bought DVDs before Netflix. I have boxes and boxes of them, a whole library of shit that's collecting dust and gradually decaying after I watched it once. Occasionally I watched some of them multiple times. I don't even watch any of them now. Multiple thousands of dollars spent on DVDs in the early aughts that could have been better spent buying apple stock or SPY.

>>62198248
I think it is a buyers market for used DVDs and I only buy them using my amazon points so I can acquire cult classics and movies that come highly regarded or of some cultural influence. I remember thinking the Netflix library was nothing but 2-3 good movies with 95% garbage. Just a few years of redirecting the cost of Netflix into my collection will get you pretty far in terms of having entertainment for a rainy day. I don't think people should spend their time watching TV at all. But the most important part I think is that having a tangible product that I own is far superior to "renting" a subscription. I'm on this forum because I want to retire early and find efficiencies in how I get there. Cost controls, rationing, and making good decisions is one of those pillars that will help me get there. If I never spend another dollar on media that will be just fine by me because I own the product and never have to spend another penny on it if I don't want to.
I have a gym in my garage too. Never have to spend another penny on one ever again in my life.

>>62198328
>I acquire culturally significant movies
Yeah, I did too. And I say again, they're all sitting in boxes rotting right now and I will probably never watch any of them again.

Are you thinking of streaming, where they get the license for the movies a few months at a time? The Netflix DVD rental library was *never* just 2-3 good movies.

>>62193147
>100k?
hahaha.
hahahahahaha.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahahaaaaaahhhh

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>>62196760
>what are you investing in?
I can't recommend anything beyond diversified etfs because I basically build my own ideal fund of 50-70 companies and this is is too peculiar a style and would be detrimental to most who try it because of transaction costs and not having enough time to keep up. 90% of the stocks were chosen because PEG is below 1-1.2, ROIC (return on invested capital) above WACC (cost of capital), forward p/e below 12, and a few more misc rules like this. Basically profitable companies at cheap valuationshot ones. I also like to see long technical bases (stock has stayed within a range for a long time). But I do have 7% in an etf that approximates nasdaq 100. Another 5% in a small cap multifactor etf. 8% in high yield corporate bonds. 7% in euro etfs. 3% in a nuclear etf. 5% cash

>>62198375
>valuationshot ones.
Some text got deleted. I meant to say I tend to stay away from hot stocks. When mine start to run I just get more and more anxious and eventually sell them when the prices go up too fast and people on X start to talk about them. And of course in 90% of the cases they still go up another zillion pct after I'm out. But I've done a little better than the market in spite of this. 40% in 2023. 19% YTD

Btw, never invest in art or rare coins. I eventually managed to sell the art at probably only a 25% loss, but I still have the coins. Very nice condition big silver thaler equivalent coins from the 17th and 18th century. The only auction house in my country that deals in them were shady as hell and tried to outright buy them for a fraction of the value that gets bid in bigger countries. So I'm going to have to deal with the stress of sending them out of my country to another auction house, which I now view as a sleazy industry

Another crappy investment I did was physical junk silver. Was dead money for 8 years and then you have to deal with retards and sleazeballs bidding 50% of spot value when you try to sell it

Better to focus on maxxing your tax advantaged accounts like 401k, roth ira, Health Savings Account (HSA), etc. imho

>>62193147
I have like 230k in robinhood and it's been stalled around there for like a year. Fuck this stupid shitty quote, it's not true.

I'd say maybe around 500k you can calm down and let compound interest take over, but for now I'm fucking living with 3 roommates even though I have a 120k wage

>>62194120
Well, stop working full time if you still are.

Pay off all debt, including house
Get solar panels

Now your monthly expenses are zilch. You can work part time to enjoy life and for the benefits while your retirement accounts grow.

Since you're part time, you can slowly do roth conversions over the years so you can also access your retirement accounts within 5 years regardless of your age and they'll grow tax free with no required minimum distributions. This will leave you with low medicaid premiums and very little taxable income in retirement.

>>62195669
You may think its biased since it gets shilled all over the tinfoil hat part of the innanets, but shadowstats is run by a guy who used to be a big corpo accountant and started his service (now website) to more accurately track discrepancies between cpi and more objective methods of inflation. I'd say its more accurate than the gov numbers (obviously), so don't discount it out of hand

>>62198657
Sure, but around here "inflation" is invoked as a magic incantation that paralyzes young people who otherwise would save up fat accounts that eventually compounds more than they can earn in a year. It's very effective at ruining lives

>>62195082
How the fuck are you down 400k from december 2024 until now? Even just buying a world equity ETF like VT would be up 30% since then.

With 200k I'd be retired, or close to it with 100k.
I live in a hick rural retard town and our houses are between 100-200k for a multi-family rental, the added price is just how well maintained and non-cooned you want the property to be.
And said rentals would bring in 10-12% growth per year in such a rental market, 1 or 2k a month I'd be retired on that
>How?
I live in a house with 3 other family members.

>>62198803
Yeah until you have an unlucky year where you break your leg and get a bunch of medical costs, you have a squatter/bad tenant that doesn't pay rent and takes 6 months of legal fees to evict. They trash the house on their way out costing 50k to fix. Your main house you live in needs some work and costs 5-10k. Your car's engine breaks down and you need 4k for that plus other work.

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>>62198700
Its definitely gotten a magical destruction element to it in the past few years
I mostly blame the propaganda for confusing zoomers about what causes inflation, but its still getting close to the point where it might get out of control; such is the deceit and conceit of the operations of central banking.
Back to the point though: pic related is the current calculated measure from his site. I'm making no claims on this figure because I would need to look at some of his YoY numbers first, but this discrepancy is MASSIVE, which brings me to a larger point.
I dont think inflationary pressures are necessarily bad, even from a corrupt and biased (as much as certain stewards may genuinely try to avoid such things) source such as a central bank. The problem arises when it is constant, but inconsistent inflation, especially during years where high inflation looks really bad for incumbent pols. This will put a distortion on markets in the long term for how to properly price goods, services, and payrolls. We don't actually know what our own currency is worth at the current time because its been twisted and distorted away from reality by massive printing runs, propaganda, and knowing (and unknowing) corpo greed. The market is only as sound as its settlement layer, and it looks pretty grim right now from that perspective

>>62198849
Well, yeah. That could happen no matter how much you make.

>>62198849
Also our main house's expenses are split between 3 people besides me, and I don't have a car I walk everywhere because if my engine breaks down I need 4k for it, + I'm not paying those insurance prices.

>>62194465
this made me laugh alot

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>>62193147
Just hit 100k today.
But it's not really enough, is it? I still feel poor. Gotta do better

I can't really do nothin' because my country is a shithole with insane taxes on everything and I can't get past the HR Interview charisma check because i'm too autistic.

>b-but my shitcoins and investments and...
What part of retarded law do you not understand?

>>62199059
It'll grow itself nicely but yeah you're still going to be adding to it faster than it grows for a while.

My first 100k, it felt nice to see six figures, but also surprisingly small. When it gets to half a million it starts to take on a life of its own. If you can get your own land plus that amount then you actually start to feel set for life. But clawing my way here from poorfag leaves me feeling empty and like I can never have enough. I truly understand just how little 1 million is now.

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>>62193147

>get that money
>invest it
>lose it all because 70% of all investments are scams

>>62199206
Good goy. Thanks for playing!

>>62193586
charlie and buffett def put it into a small number of concentrated bets

>>62193560
youre crushing it bro. congrats and good luck.

>>62199206
This mindset is why NPCs can't invest.
1) they don't even start until they've reached some big number.
2) they can't figure out the most basic bitch trading websites.
3) they can't spend an hour to research basic broad investments and see what are gowing industries.
4) At the first tiny daily loss they freak out and sell everything, certain it was just a scam or gambling.

Thanks for sliding into relative poverty so I can have a bigger piece of the pie.

>>62193147
>bitcoin is rat poison squared
>can’r afford a bitcoin after taking his advice

>>62198755
Have you missed how crypto has taken a dump over the past two years? On top of that, I quit working 11 months ago.

>>62193560
>I don't even have lights on unless I'm in the room.

Uhh. Yeah? Isn't that normal?

>>62193147
My portfolio hit 100k yesterday.
Started last year with 50k
Now im just wheeling options with 14k of that and using the premiums, profits, and dividends for reinvestment.

>>62193147
>today it is:
Too bad it’s that first million is a bitch

>>62193147
No car
Live with parents
15% in gold miner indexes
10% in silver miner indexes
15% on uranium miners indexes
15% on VOOG
10% on Coca-Cola
10% in cooper miner indexes
10% in Nvidia
5% in Alphabet
5% in Micron
5% Strategy
1500 invested monthly

Buckle up and see you soon Pops.

>>62201425
>10% on Coca-Cola
are you 80????

>>62201425
Great selection, I have most of that as well, but unfortunately sold my MU on Nov 5 and missed most of the run. I also aim for 1500 a month as a baseline. Just sold my 3090 for $1k and downgraded to a 3060ti I got for $150; putting in the difference.