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day 376 of growing my charizard collection till it hits $1mil

now that pokemon has replaced crypto for investing, will it ever stop mooning?
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The virgin faggot card general is back
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>>62248857
eventually you will give in to the gains
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>>62248873
Eat my dick chizzard gay boy
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>>62248842
What's the easiest / best way to sell a bunch of ungraded old cards? Don't think I have anything particularly valuable.
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>>62248904
Light them on fire cuz they are worthless
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Still more real than crypto
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>>62249095
shocked how much hate this general gets. tcg chad will get the last laugh over seething crypto trench tards
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>>62248904
just list individually on ebay, takes about 2 mins per card

or if you're even lazier just go to nearby cardshow, vendor will give you 75-80% cash for them
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>>62248842
>>62248873

you're late. Retards like you queuing up to buy pokemon cards makes me think we are topping for thie next 5 years at least.
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>>62248842
Why do they use nigger-tier flimsy cardboard for their cards nowadays? I guess zoomers don't deserve good things...
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>>62250230
I know biz but not pokemon cards. After checking in on this yesterday I’m prepping and cashing in my entire childhood stack asap. Prices are at all time highs, normies flooding in, shops offering 75% cash and not 40. Sell signals.
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>>62248842
Can't touch this.
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>>62250253
What shop has ever offered 40%? eBay with fees you’ll bet 85% of market that makes no sense to offer 40. Think harder next time
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>>62250502
Your ESL posting isnt convincing me to change my mind
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>>62250533
You’re actually retarded if you think anyone would seriously offer let alone take 40%
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I searched forums from years ago pre-hype, and the consensus was you could get a fair 70% at trade shows and robbed for 30-50% at shops. 70% at shops today means the market is euphoric and ideal for selling
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>>62250253
yes this is going to die soon.
Also as someone who used to be a big collector of tcg (MTG) i made some excellent picks because i knew the game and had a feel for the undervalued cards, both from gameplay but mostly rarity and just liked them. I did almost a 6x on my collection. The pokemon cards this guy is buying don't even look rare or scarce.
I do believe in collectibles but this is an obvious. If i were to buy pokemon cards i would onlybuy the first sets (like the base set is still relatively cheap) because there will only be less and less of those and they have nostalgia value.
but i'm done with this shit stonks and real estate are the only real things
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there's no data to suggest that we're at a top, there's no data to even suggest that pokemon has a measurable upper bound.
this is absolutely in the top 3 hated generals because the data points only show upward momentum, but envious nocarders who think its unsustainable expect to see downward data points any day now... any day now...
they think the rest of us will just suddenly burst into tears because my 8x went down to a 7.5x
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>>62250699
Wow it’s going to go up forever! Sounds like a New Paradigm
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ebay buyers that dont leave reviews after buying from you should be banished from the app and blacklisted. i gave you 5 freebies and bubble wrapped your card and you couldn't be bothered to type a 5 word sentence and click a thumbs up button?
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>>62250740
crazy how paper fiat works huh
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>>62250814
i'm going to elaborate on this for the simpletons that browse this thread

fact: the paper US dollar gains its value from the perceived future productiveness of the American empire. the US dollar is not represented by gold, it's represented by the reliability of America's economy versus the other competing currencies' economies

now do yourself a favor and apply this logic to pokemon cards. theyre certificates whose prices are tied into the future success expectations of the pokemon brand.

Even with debasement, is America going to lose its position as the world's strongest currency? No

Even with overprinting/overhype, is Pokemon really going to lose its position as the dominant entertainment franchise? No
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>>62250814
>>62250699
do you even hear yourself
Why would pokemon cards keep going up forever?
The old cards aren't played from my understanding, they have only collectible value. Why would they keep going up in price forever? you're a typical baggie in the making and i'm rejoicing
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>>62250861
kek so you can buy fart inu and become a millionaire. Pokemon cards are already up many x due to the bubble created by influencers like jake paul. Before that normies didn't invest in TCG it was rather niche although it existed yes.
if the economy breaks apart and dollar hyper inflates your pokemon cards won't be the best hedge and don't tell me a 70% haircut won't hurt
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>>62250866
I didn't say forever. what I implied is that pokemon cards will keep gaining value as long as America has a strong enough currency + rich population to dictate material trends.
you're coming at me from the perspective of someone who believes the American economy is going to "break apart"?
if that's the only bear case you can come up with regarding pokemon cards, it means theyre a great investment since they'll hold value barring a total catastrophe
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>>62250923
>since they'll hold value barring a total catastrophe

What makes you say so? have you considered the fact they're a luxury investment asset with very little actual intricate value? people might play some of those cards but i'm not even sure pokemon is that much popular in the world of tcg. Well probably people play it but they might as well lose interest it can happen.

I think the major risk is that this is a bubble and many of those are over inflated. After the 2021 bull run mtg cards exploded then some cards are now selling for 50% what they used to sell. they still have value because mtg is a 30 years old success and number 1 played tcg but even that could change

tldr: trading cards are not a good store of wealth they're a niche investment and from my limited perspective you're going for the most potentially over inflated ones where every one is talking about scalping pokemon products and so on. top signal
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>>62250948
I agree with some of the points you're making and disagree with others. You're correct that the majority of cards (modern cards, off-brand TCGs) are at inflated prices and will have trouble holding their premium. However truly rare specimens that exist at the crossroads of rarity + popularity + condition will enjoy a high price floor. This isn't 100% guaranteed, but it is something I'm willing to bet on with a significant portion of my capital. Youre right to call them a luxury investment but wrong to call them a niche investment.
Furthermore, there's zero data points to support this idea of a -70% crash in the TCG market. You're sounding equally as schizo as I am
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> pokemon’s reputation is equal to financial backing from the us government
I’m so cashing out lmao
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>>62251048

Sorry you cant wrap your head around the fact that the US dollar and Pokemon cards are both perceived values with very little substance aside from their own enormous bulk

you never held cards to begin with damn larper.
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>>62251001
how old are the cards you're buying on average? i noticed around 15+ years collectibles start moving up a lot of the time.
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>>62251073
By the way I have the best ID itt which makes me superior in every possible way
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>>62251048

It's actually more trustworthy
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>>62251079
Well I'm a hobbyist and a true collector. this is the viewpoint that I encourage everyone to consider. I prefer Legendary Collection reverse holos, e-series cards, WOTC promos because that's what I was drawn to collect based on my own eye-appeal for character pose, color-match, noting the illustrator of the card, etc.

Modern cards and japanese promos are a different beast entirely, notice that I said rarity + popularity + condition. These criteria can apply to modern alternate art cards because they are so damn rare. They may not be old, but they have vicious pull rates and get sheet value based on that.
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>>62248842
While you goys are out collecting ZOG cardboard I'm over here stacking metals. We are NOT the same.
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>>62251170
I don't think Japan has jews, am I wrong?
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>>62251170
as the self-designated authority on wise decisions, I see everything
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>>62250699
love to see this /biz/ growth in tcg, 2 years ago I was lucky to get even 1 reply
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>>62250861
>>62250699
2 Tugz 4 a Playa is rite, maan
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Virgin pussy ass bitches
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>>62250866
>they have only collectible value
oh no, they're just like fine art!
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>>62251697
go to bed grandpa, your fundamentals are worthless in today's world
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>>62251170
Based.
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>>62251170
have fun catching another pump in 15 years
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>>62251084
>2Tugsmaxxing
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>>62252099
Good luck trying to sell to 40 year old zoomers who only remember pokemon as a broken game with a 4fps windmill
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>>62248842
im buying every single fossil card I can find on the internet across the entire world and im hoarding them in my closet until theres none left
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>>62250948
Niche investment? Buddy this isn't 2006 anymore.
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>>62250699
100%. There is no top. I honestly think cards will be as mainstream as real estate - if not more - by the end of the decade.
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>>62252137
Gen X thought the same thing, look what happened
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>>62252142
Beanie Babies:
>Weren't backed by the world's largest multimedia franchise
>didn't have highly publicized success stories like cards do with AlphaInvestments
>Didn't have mainstream celebs telling everyone to invest
>Boomed before social media, before the 2008 crash destroyed the public's faith in fiat, and before Bitcoin changed the world's view on investing
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>>62250699
Top 3? This might BE the most hated. Not even the GME threads get this much hate.
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>>62252151
Minor nitpicks. Investing is all about collective human psychology, and that never changes. Price action on assets hundreds of years ago is just the same as it is today
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>>62252162
I mean that Bitcoin made people more confident in assets without fundamentals.
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idk anything about tcgs for investing but gotta saying, saying "zards" is funny af and may become a meme that fuels the value of the cardboards
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>>62252190
People have been saying 'Zards since 2001. It's not new.
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>>62252190
im the zardtard
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>>62249228
Better unload your bag onto the first desperate idiot you find lmao
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Virgins
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Virgin pussies
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btc>rocks>land>art>sneakers>pokemon cards
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>>62253477
but pokemon is art
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>>62253878
Cards are consumer products, not fucking fine arts. These aren't just for rich like Rolexes.
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Boys, I have a sealed booster box of chilling reign, how do I sell? Ebay?
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>>62254031
take it to local card show and get 80% in cash or ebay yeah
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>>62254514
You don't need to go to a card show to sell Pokémon. Liquidity is insane; it's not like MTG or Yugioh where moving shit takes time. Better off going on Ebay and getting 86% - shipping costs.
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>>62254706
I don’t know why you virgins WOUDN’T go to a card show to sell your pokemon garbage. It isn’t like you have anything else to do like take a bitch out on a date and fuck her.
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>>62256167
anon we all know you're a bald divorced 56 year old, you don't have to keep telling us every post
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>>62256167
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A coworker showed off her pokemon card binder today (shit is legit like 5 figures potentially)
it made me kinda wanna hop in on stuff
but the rising chaos cards seem like they suck ass art-wise
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Just saw PSA 10 celebrations Charizard is $700 now, was $150 just two years ago

Meanwhile shiny Charizard vmax PSA 10 still a pathetic $300, piece of SHIT
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>>62256633
Goddamn it and I have 2 of them vmax non graded. Shining fates was a dud.
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I am glad I was in enough of a financial bind to look into selling some of my collection. Reaching level 4 on TCGplayer is what's required to make all of it liquid and that shit took like 2 months. Get started today with crap you don't want so that when you actually want to sell in a few years you're good to go
>>62250699
>there's no data to even suggest that pokemon has a measurable upper bound.
BTC crashed for like 4 years last time I saw someone make this exact post about BTC
>>62250759
It's the ones that leave a negative review after you put all that work in that are truly the devil
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>>62256633
kek yeah that shiny vmax aint getting much love but long term it'll still slowly catch up
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when does the bear market for cards start so i can ape in and get some psa10 cheapies



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