t minus 15 hours edition>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.com>Financial TV Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/>Charts:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://www.finscreener.comhttps://www.portfoliovisualizer.com>Screeners:https://finviz.com/https://etfdb.com/>Gambling:https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Pre-Market and Live data:https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Calendars:https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.htmlhttps://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits>Boomer Investing 101:https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc:https://www.financialjuice.com/homehttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://market24hclock.com/https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates>Previous>>62352673
sneediskthat is all
Don't think I've ever seen a countdown to an IPO
>futures
>BYD kino droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo7ZuQ-CLPs
>>62353517Wow damn I just guessed
fake and gay market pumping off lies for the dozenth time, shit was in freefall, only a matter time now
>>62353517Reminds me of the countdown to Nvideo earnings. And all the people who called the top then
I haven't watched CNBC since the Uber IPOWhat am I in for these days?
>>62353517The whole stock market runs on hype. I hate this fake and gay world.
Imagine the seethe if whatever invisible bear force shit from this week makes it dump like everything else
>adobe beats earnings>raises outlook>drops another 6% after already having dropped 6% todayMOTHERFUCKER!Fuck it, I'm buying another $5000 tomorrow. I don't even like Adobe, but this fucking clown market has to learn.
>>62353531Cramer wears glasses now and different logo, that's all that's different
Price action > everything
>>62353517>>62353537the funniest possible thing that could happen is it rugging like most other IPOs, but I doubt it'll happen since even though I'm not buying, I do recognize it's a remarkably unique case.
>>62353540Anon please don't do it, you're only hurting yourself.ADBE is a company of the past, AI has taken over 90% of photoshop requests. It is the definition of a value trap. A company with a good past but no future.Stop hurting yourself smigger, that $5,000 will go a lot further a lot quicker in GRRR.
>>62353540>he held thru earnings
ASTS up almost 20% todayis this the power of SPCX?
>>62353542thanks
I hope you're still having fun, because things are about to get even funnier!
>>62353550Are you telling me feels=reals?
>>62353540Never add to losers only add to winners
It was foretold.
>>62353558>ASTS up almost 20% todayI should have boughted a few more shares before the pump
>>62353550So, TA?
>>62353556>only a Buy, not a Strong Buyidk anon, maybe I should just buy more AMD and MU instead
>>62353556If I don’t hit my 20$ strike price of grrr by next week I will, probably do nothing different to be entirely honest just annoyed that 200 bucks went nowhere
>>62353585You will my smegro, if by some awful reason you don't send me your cashapp and I'll gift you $200 :3
>>62353587No I’ll just buy more while it’s still cheap and place another call for later and probably repeat that endlessly until I get like a 2x out of it
>>62353577Checked and true
>>62353556>ADBE is a company of the past, AI has taken over 90% of photoshop requests. >It is the definition of a value trap. A company with a good past but no future.Then why the fuck are its earnings still increasing?
>>62353584Cantor fitzgerald recently upgraded PT to $40 and strong buy.You'd be front running the consensus strong buy signal. It will be $60 EOY and $100 EOY 27.
>>62353578Genesis does what NTDOYn't.
>>62353597sorry anon I'm algorithmaxxing
>>62353595You know in road runner cartoons when Wiley Cayote runs off a cliff, but he still takes a few steps as though the floor hasn't fallen from underneath him? That's ADBE, running on steam soon to fall victim to the cruel draw of gravity.
>Berkshire own a lot of Alphabet>Alphabet owns a lot of SpacexWill the success of Spacex move Berkshire or is it too far removed to actually impact Berkshire in any meaningful way?
>>62353602What algo is that smiggily wiggily?And doesn't that indicate GRRR as a strong buy?
It's okay to share your feelings, any other salty bears want to talk about it?My names anon and I'm a bear. still 50% in cash after market selling on open last Friday. I guess what I'm working with is shaking off the fud as fast as I can and will Market by tomorrow something that hasn't pumped too hard like Google. But even then you can kind of still hear my fear not getting back into the memory game. Anyway thanks for listening, just wanted to open the floor. There's no shame being wrong, just embarrassment and losing out on money...
>>62353515Am I a retard for selling my sneedisk eod today?Seems like its gone down the next day every time it breaks 10%
>>62353609MarketEdge. And yeah it's borderline on a Strong Buy rec I think. It takes some ridiculous trends to get a Strong Buy most of the time
Took profits. Could have made 2000 bucks just swing trading this week. Had to pay car insurance. If the market goes down tomorrow by a lot I buy a lot but if not I'll just keep swinging 100-500 a week. Not going all in last september and watching it go up so much makes me wary of being fully invested for long.
for me, it's good & plenty>good>plenty
got 100 spcx shares. what do I do now?
Silver
>>62353622SIX-SEVEEEEEN
>>62353612I mean if you sold on open on Friday and bought back on open today you'd be beating the bulls. Too bad bears are mentally ill and thus unable to capitalize on upswings. Sad!
GIVE ME SOME SHARES ELON...ELON.........ELON PLS!
>>62353618Profits are always good my smigga I'm rooting for you mwah xoxox :3
>>62353612>>62353613Buy and hold.https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/crushing-shortages-force-biwin-into-usd1-86-billion-nand-deal-for-ssds-multi-year-agreement-locks-in-fixed-pricing-as-spot-market-threatens-to-dry-upWe're still seeing deals like these made every other month and foundries are booked trying to fulfill orders for the next 2-3 years.
>>62353621Baghold for 3 years
>>62353625Heh, I just confirmed my 150.
>>62353603oh yeah that reminds me, Larry Ellison owes me $30
I bought the literal peak last Thursday my positions are still negative one week later I'm the most cucked person in this thread
is coreweave the most useless stock currently?it just cant stay up
>>62353612I got out of my memory positions. It was a good run and if you bought in early enough, you won the lottery. I bought in at an okay time and I'm content with my gains. I don't even care if DRAM or MU or sneedisk moon again.
>>62353634Don't feel bad, anon. I'm still down 15k from my peak last week>>62353636Grats anon
>>62353636You will regret this, imagine selling NVDA at $20 because it has gone up too much too quickly.Memory is the new unvaccinated semen. We're all gonna be rich. Rich I tells ya. RICH! $$$
>>62353626rare pepeWish elon was not doing his thing tomorrow though, would hold longer if it wasn't a 10% in one day move with africans launching rockets or whatever.
>>62353631ya know, i thought about it all week and then at the last minute decided on 100 shares in the roth (about 20% of net liq in that account) and 100 shares in the regular account (just 1% of net liq in that account)... then like an hour later after thinking about it while exercising i decided to up my offer to 500 shares in the larger account but unfortunately i grew a pair of balls after the window had closed so i am stuck with the 100 share offer. no biggie i guess
>>62353639U mite b rite but I don't have the stomach to stay in DRAM when so much of it depends on Korea. It's so concentrated for an ETF. I'm still in semis and I'll probably hold this position for a while but I can't lie, last Friday was a little disconcerting so something had to get trimmed. I didn't sell the bottom at least.
Do i really need an emergency fund or can I invest everything.
Investing in this market is basically to give jews money.
>>62353649Then invest in MU and SNDK>>62353656We are the jews
>>62353651all in + margin
>>62353651invest your life savings into AMD, it will work out, probably
>>62353651Do an experiment maybe and pull some money out of your broker into your account see how fast it goes. Most emergencies don't really bhit you with the bill for a couple of day at least.I just have enough in my account that my card works
>become mumu for one (1) day>make enough to in 20 minutes to quit my job, pay my rent, utilities and eat for a year if I want to.I should feel happy.I feel dirty.Like a whore.... but I have bills to pay. (a common enough argument among filthy whores)(like me)
>>62353660No you are a goy.
>>62353660m8 now is definitely not the time to buy MU. If you got in at 750 or less, it's probably worth holding but there's a good chance that someone who buys now will be even more suicidal within a week. I've already bought the peak enough times to have learned my lesson.
>>62353613nah, you should be fine; anywhere over $1,850 is pretty good assuming you didn't buy the picotop or close to it. I just have a huge profit buffer so I'm willing to risk riding it up more before fully punching out.
>>62353666Come to the light side, bobo. It's way more fun over here and you know it. Boboism is for masochists who like to suffer for 10 years straight, have 1 year to act smug and profit a little, and then suffer again
>>62353540Some anon predicted this Compared it to oracle/Smg/ was right again
>>62353671You are right that I have convection since I've bought in so early...okay, you should buy another mid-size guy that'll run like MRVL
>>62353622my dca is like 30 bucks I welcome the dropping so I can get more I love it in my safe :D
>>62353666You should feel like a king. What did you buy and what was your principal?
>>62353651emergency funds are for people who live paycheck to paycheck with no liquid assets
Not even participating in the ipo but I will enjoy spending the market open with you guys.
>>62353635No it can't. I bought the top at 170 but I refuse to sell. I buy the stock at every dip and I sell it when it goes up 10-20$. It's been working so far
>>62353635I want to say VRT because I have lost a stupid amount of money on it but I also bought the peak without checking any charts beforehand like a tard.
>>62353666Make more.Invest in art, commission pieces.Invest in hobbies, enjoy living.Tip your waitress 40%, tip her twice.
As I had foretold 2 days ago Iran war just ended.
Tell all who will hear, the Reaper sails for Wall Street. And he calls for an Iron Dump.
HGRAF might have some tasty news next week chart is signalling something is close. Next move could triple the price.$15 USD
>>62353678Visiting Local coin shop on Saturday for sure
>>62353701Ugly feet would not bang>>62353704>HGRIFTED
The stock market is a system neo. That system we intend to profit off. Many are so full of themselves they buy individual stocks, play with options, try to day trade. They will fight to defend their strategies until they lose it all. Little do they know they are being played by algorithms, emotions, thoughts that get into their heads. Were you buying vanguard total or were you staring at those IPOs?
>>62353517everybody loves space, space is cool
You niggas buying RKLB tomorrow?
>>62353713no need for off brand space anywhere when spcx is live.
>>62353713>mfw RBLX is down 46% YTD
>>62353708
>>62353685Spy 731 6/11 call, amounts I keep to myself, lets just say it was a good bit more than 10x return on a months salary.I love watching tape in general and got the intuitive itch right before it popped, then shot my shot. Closed my phone went back to work.Open my phone and started panicking trying to sell, never made anything remotely close to that in one day. I was looking for 20%ish and would've sold.I still feel bad.Mumuism is skill-less. I'm a bobo and always will be.Or I was.Now I'm just a streetwalking no good filthy whore for rent, floating up with tides.
Are space stocks gonna do anything overnight? I expect they'll dump with SpaceX in the morningJust scalped the shit out of SPCE for a couple hours
>>62353617I do wonder what the price target for grrr is, with a lot of what I see online pointing to mid 30/s and the nigrrrr poster suggesting way more than that
>>62353721>I'm a bobo and always will be.Why do you hate money?
>>62353677>>62353671MU to 2k eoy easy.But right now if you CHECK THE CHARTS both MU and the Nasdaq are coming up against the former support now turned resistance. The last week of swing trading was profitable and if it breaks above the resistance it will keep running for another 3 weeks until the next dip, but I think with the news it'll predictably be>trump was wrong, no peace deal, market reacts>spacex launches, market reacts by selling off againI don't hink it drops hugely and MU will pump to 1200 on earnings but the short term turbulence must be overcome. UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN
>>62353510This treaty will fail like the others
S&P futes are kinda... you know... meandering? weak? this better not crash tomorrow
>>62353651what do you need an emergency fund for? if you are single with no kids $0 emergency fund is appropriate
>You've chosen your stocks wisely then.>I have a knack for it. It must be strange for you coming into this board. I was posting right here when it happened. He was very brave, your brother. Your father too. They didn't deserve to get margin called like that. Nobody deserves to get margin called like that.>But you just sat there and shitposted.>Five dozen men just sat there and shitposted. All the great bulls and bears of /smg/. You think anyone said a word, lifted a finger? No, anon. Five dozen men and this thread was silent as a crypt. Except for the pink wojaks, of course, and the animeposters laughing. And later... When I watched the Nikola founder get arrested, I remembered him laughing as your family's fortune burned... It felt like justice.>Is that what you tell yourself at night? You're a servant of justice?
all of reddit is calling for spacex to crash and rob peoples 401k, therefore it is going to rally so hard and they will seethe
>>62353728I love the market, she's my one true love.I want to PRODICT.The money is incedental.Boboism takes actual skill.I'll keep losing til I'm actually good and win against the grain.This time I just needed money enough to be a whore filthy no good sloppy mumu.
>>62353721I don't know why you'd feel bad. I'm been turning into a bear a little more each day but if I could make a killing like that, it would be the dream. Instead, I just FOMO into the peak and baghold until breakeven if I'm lucky.
The squeeze will be glorious.
>>62353729>MU to 2k eoy easy.It's interesting how quickly this sentiment evaporates when there's a red day that's not even half as bad as this Friday. Suddenly, we started seeing fear of like $840 PT or less.
>We ended the war with Iran today, and they have agreed never to have a nuclear weapon, something that we insisted on. That was the whole purpose. That was 95% of it, and they've done it in the most powerful way you can do it.iran never wanted it eventho they were always 2 weeks away from having it for 40+ years. so what was the whole point of this again? to pump and dump and pump the market?
>>62353744That being said I do have around 5k in $3.5 calls on RXRX for the 18th because I think itll gamma/short squeeze to $4.5 . But in general I prefer to hunt for my food rather than graze all day and melt up as a brainless herd mumu.
>>62353750Real ones know...the cultists like me holding MUU know...
>>62353651>Do i really need an emergency fund
>>62353747Get back in your cave>>62352198
>>62353751yes yesanother TACO pump for the market regardless of veracity everyone says how US fiat is backed by nothing but we all know that it's actually backed by social media posts by the chosen elite
>>62353732the market algos just got rescrambledtech and semis will pumpSPCX will gain +3.5T market cap tomorrow to be the most valuable company in the world on the very same day it IPOsS&P will close flat but at least you won't be overexposed to tech and meme shit
>>62353762Meh, it's backed by the US economy, which is somehow yet again positioned to be the #1 benefiter of an industrial tech revolution
any tradedealers in the chat? Concepts are enough
guys its fine reallyI'll buy the SPCX shares and secure generational wealth(you) can continue to play with your peckershaft
>>62353762He cant keep getting away with it
>>62353782>barron, my son >i'm about to say some insane shit, so get ready to buy >barron, my son >i'm about to taco the fuck out, so get ready to sell at this point it's all blatant
>>62353620I love em but feel sick after>>62353622>>62353623Based
Chances of buying into spcx on open and just riding the pump? It's not going to dump immediately is it?
>>62353782Yes he canAnd he doesAnd he will
>>62353750That's because the bears come out for their bi weekly top calling any time they see red.
>>62353784>not eating smarties before marketngmi anon
>>62353788>It's not going to dump immediately is it?that's usually what hyped IPO's do, yes
dramGODS we are back
>sage of omaha
https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/literally first google result explaining why space datacenters are an idiotic meme. please buy spcx baggies
>Korean reverse circuit breakersUhm yeah I'm thinking we are so fucking back smiggers and smigguettes
>>62353819lolthey did that?
>>62353819korea is a fascinating shithole i would never want to live there, but fascinating to see the hellish mess from afar it's almost like a real life cyberpunk safari that you can visit
>>62353813>tfw Im going to buy my VERY FIRST stock when the market opens Its a simple SPPW so nothing crazy, but Im excited because now I can finally start posting pink woojaks everytime it goes red. Those guys never fail to crack me up
>>62353819they have limit ups? i knew china had those they stop trading if a stock goes up 15% on a day but wasn't aware korea had it too
>>62353828>america keeps winning because we use LIMIT BREAK all the time at last i truly see
>>62353827wlecome to the club anon
there could be a deal any day now, yes a deal any day could be in the next hour, tomorrow, the day after the next week, the next two weeks, within the month, two months from now, 5 years from now, yes any day now, big beautiful deal way better than Obamas dumb stinky deal
wtf
>>62353827why didn't you buy yesterday?lol
>>62353750>840THERE IS AN UNFILLED GAP AT 785
look at Korea Computer
>>62353783>>62353782>>62353751only thing you need to remember is that when the war ends he can no longer taco and we'll get another -10% selloff due to oil fears in august/september.
>>62353839Thank you >>62353853I was busy playing Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood :/
>>62353852My Sneedisk finally performed as it should after acting like Micron retarded brother for a few weeks.
>>62353859omg shes so kawaii, too bad her kids will look like something else
>>62353523wtf Elon where the fuck are my waterfalls and aliens and flying electric cars
>>62353577this took me way longer to learn than it should have
red friday, thanks for oversubscribing to the spacex ipo everyone
>>62353873bro can these sandniggers just move on already
I think im gonna sell my rocketlab
>>62353876this is the only fun thing they're allowed to do according to the coran
I think that I'm gonna buy rocketlab
>>62353881Wanna buy mine? Special deal only $200/share
>>62353883Best I can do it $350/share
>>62353860we are green until anthropic IPO imo. my crystal ball cant see further than that
>>62353873Lmao. Did they seriously make Armenian Cory the new Ayatollah?
When does the rest of spacex shares get unlocked? That's when I'm selling desu.
Fidelity charges an extra premium of $3 fucking dollars for each share of dram.
>>62353889wow you're a genius. I'm sure no one else has thought about that angle.
>>62353892what are you even fucking saying? It costs $300+ in commission to buy a lot of DRAM?
>>62353762this time is different. al jazeera is confirming Iran agreed to the deal
What happens after the actual deal and we can’t taco anymore bros?
>>62353876the trolls and bantz have been pretty guc though. going to be a little boring when it ends.
>>62353900>listening to al jewsera
Jews
>>62353826its the most soulless place I've ever been and I've traveled alot. they act like niggers. they yell in public/talk on the phone in public/yell at their men in public. all of the women always have shopping bags. its rotten to the core
ETF bros what ETF can I DCA into that isn't filled with AI slop or SpaceX?
>>62353906damn that sucks. Fidelity and Roundhill are kikes of the highest order
>>62353908Schd
>>62353908SCHD
>>62353888Checked
>>62353910>>62353912good anons to listen to if you want to be poor
>>62353905>listening to axios
>>62353892>>62353906Yeah, saw this on ATP a week or so ago, it's some gay bullshit. Usually Fidelity is fine, except for foreign stock transaction fees.
>>62353916who said anything about those kikes? Just have trump's xitter on your second monitor
>>62353892I swore to never do bidness with Robinhood but I opened an account with them specifically in case I ever want to buy back into DRAM. Fidelity also slapped me with some 3 month long trading restriction because I made trades before cash settled every though I never spent money that I didn't have.
>>62353818there are no governments in spaceyou can do a 100% digital business and pay no taxesyou can host a website with no cookie warnings, allow users to register and post comments without GDPR bullshit etc, delulu govermentaloid faggots btfothis is a trillion dollar market, a digital Delaware
>>62353910>>62353912Overvalued. Spent 5 years at $24 now its $32. Bound to go back to $24 when QCOM and TXN its biggest holdings crash
>>62353910>>62353912SCHD is so fucking well managed desu... all of the top holdings are shit that I would cherry pick myself as shit I would want to buy anyways. usually ETFs have some rage inducing shit in the top holdings
>>62353925fidelity sounds so kikemaxxed, glad I never used them. Although, if you had a margin account with them you potentially would have avoided any "trading before settlement" stuff. I think that might actually apply to any broker
>>62353928UNH is its top holding and its like 50% undervalued just because the CEO got assassinated
>>62353931divdends are tax inefficient and retarded as a return strategy
>>62353933You're probably right and I should've just requested a margin account but I was new to trading at the time and I didn't even know that it was possible to commit a trade violation from using the funds from a stock that I just sold in the same business day.
ordereded 420$ worth of SPCX for the memes
is everybody getting fucked except for the bass players tomorrow?
>>62353936it outperformed QQQ and SPY without the dividends dude... its a fucking goated etf
>>62353935That happened 3 years ago unc
>>62353908TLT
>>62353937that's fair, brokers should honestly post a notification for people when they try to do that. I'm sure they can detect it before the fact
>>62353939Aya hirano....
>>62353939the tuba bros are getting layed?
How funny will tomorrow be
>>62353945still recovering lil zoom zoom. been the easiest money printer frfr no cap on god
WE ARE SO BACKIT WILL NEVER BE SO OVER EVER AGAINNEW PARADIGM! EVERY DAY IS A GIFT
>>62353944that's simply false, but we're going to get into cherry picking time horizons. Anyways if you're a boomer who needs divy income then I guess it's fine.
have a 100 share spcx IPO order and a few hours to cancel. idk if I should follow the memes or fundamentals. 4% float @ 2 trillion is sketchy. rockets and internet are sound but the AI is dragging the profitability way down. seems like 50/50 real/meme company with shitcoin tier IPO economics.
>>62353958>SCHD YTD 18.25%>QQQ YTD 15.95%>SPY YTD 7.79%???
>>62353960ok I literally said we're going to get into cherry picking time horizons>SCHD 5Y 26.2%>QQQ 5Y 110.15%
>>62353963I'm too lazy to calculate divvy reinvestment performance of SCHD 5Y but its way closer than you think with less drawdowns and copium about going to Mars or whatever
>>62353959SpaceX's IPO documents list the AI sector as almost entirely driving its "valuation"You buy SpaceX to dump on bogleheads.
Apparently IPO demand is 4x the number of shares offered. So everyone basically has a 25% chance of getting a share right?
>>62353958>Anyways if you're a boomer who needs divy income It's actually terrible if you need incomeJEPQ mogs it and has a 10-11% dividendhttps://testfol.io/?s=85tsYf0RInJ
>>62353959Holy FUCK it's worth two trillion dollars?? Who is buying this shit?
>>62353966i want in on the pump but i can't be bothered to micromanage my spacebags out of a dump so i bought into a growth fund that has spacex exposure i'd love my balance sheet to get pumped bigly but i'm okay with a moderate pump if it means i get to let a career fundie handle the bags
>>62353972saudi trust fund kids with 90 IQ
>>62353967for every 4 shares you request, you're likely to get ~1. that's been about right for every IPO i've been involved in (either getting none or barely any) ive never once had a single order completely filled. i just want to make enough money tomorrow to buy all the switch 2 games i've been interested in for the year. I'm good nintengoy
>>62353972the float is tiny, the market cap is literally made up fake magic numbers (that's true for many companies to an extent, but this is probably the largest mcap with simultaneously the tiniest % ipo float)
>>62353959My thesis is generally internet company with their own (reusable) rockets. xAI loss is the obvious compute and the same losses affecting OpenAI and Anthropic. Not that that fully justifies things, but it has government contracts as well. The bear case itself is so retail now that I'm just gonna hodl and see.
man, spx futurnari is quite literally just hovering at +0.2% this is unusually calm (before the storm)
>>62353959i swear you're more likely to get your 1 share request filled then a 10+ order just so faggot nigger apps can say XX% of our goys got exactly what they asked for :))
>>62353980is xAI = grok? Then it's absolute dogshit. Like that whole division probably going to get written off when they can't compete with Anthro/gemini
>>62353971Schd has qualified, growing dividends, High yield is not what you think it is.
Why didn’t I sell everything so I could buy the spacex ipo I’m gonna miss out
>>62353908avuv if you want a serious answer, its scientifically proven long term 100 year expected cagr is like 13% vs smp500 10% and its 15% currently since inception.
>>62353758Just don't have emergencies.
>>62353986>geminiReally fucked compared to OpenAI/Anthropic, I genuinely don't understand how it can be so bad when they've invested so much into its development. Better than grok but also way higher investment I think
>>62353991you're going to send anon down rabbit hole of portfolio sharpe ratios, which maybe is a good thing, but it's not the spirit of smgee
>>62353990SpaceX will achieve profitably for several quarters by relentlessly diluting the bogleheadsThen it can be added to the SP500 for round 2 of the boglehead reaping
>>62353959Musk has been yapping non stop about moving AI compute to satellites. Personally think a lot of the inflated valuation is propped up by this as every cunt wants to be the first in on the newest AI slopportunity.
>>62353993I would be interested to hear about your experiences. I've never had gemini do anything outright retarded for me.Grok on the other hand has on many occasions said "here's your output" and it points to a local linux directory seemingly in its own instance, instead of just attaching it in the chat
>>62353996>AVUV: higher volatility and higher returnsthere now is it in the spirit of smg
GRRR anonWhat is the make it amount of GRRR to have?
>>62353997in 2040 after sacrificing 10 trillion in boglehead DCA I think we will probably land on the moon for the first time ever for real
>>62353986I agree Grok is an inferior model. Morningstar's prediction was xAI/Grok is valued at $170 billion. For comparison, Anthropic is estimated $900 billion and OpenAI $850 billion. Gemini obviously has a $4 trillion company behind it. Just something to think about.
>>62353908just buy NLR, nuclear power is a must in the future simply because russia and china are speedrunning it
>>62354004I am a little over halfway done with accumulating, I want 25,000 shares which would give me a million dollars at $40 a share. Then I will be a gorillionaire.But making it is all relative, GRRR could go to $100 tomorrow and my life would be no materially different other than a little dopamine hit and some smugness. What is your make it goal my smigger?
so how many shares of space x are you buying /smg/?
>>62354023>spacexI refuse to believe any smigger is retarded enough to buy that stinking pile of dogshit.
>>62354023i got 140 requested shares through multiple accounts, I'll be grateful if i get half.
>>62353988After tax yield is still 8% way higher yield and can retire with much less money much sooner. You need $1.25 million to retire on the same amount I get to retire with $500k
>>62354022My goal is to slowly build up my baby account of 10k to a mill and if I have to rotate out then so be it, any gains of even jumping to 40 would be huge. All I know are the price analysts have grrr at a lot lower than 100 and I hope they are wrong
>cbrl goes parabolic june 4>no one is talking about itIs CBRL the AI/Space sector rotation play no one is talking about?
should i just sleep in tomorrow anons, i dont plan on buying spacex anyways. is it IPO during market or after
SPCX is SAFU
>>62354032Based what are you holding at the moment? Cantor Fitzgerald most recently raised PT to $40.If they execute flawlessly and make good on their revenue estimates next year of $400-500M without diluting then it is easily $100 a share. That would still only be a $2.5Billion market cap and just 5 x P/S. I'm expecting a NBIS like run up once their execution alleviates market concerns/hang-ups.
>>62354002So without going into details I have a scientific background and do training for these companies on the side. When you get into the weeds of it, getting down to really detailed and nuanced shit, OpenAI and Anthropic are honestly astounding with the kind of depth and precision they have been able to achieve for years now. I think Gemini is just barely catching up now, in regards to high-precision scientific work, to what the top dogs had in mid-2024. I've also done some work on other functions of Gemini and it's astoundingly bad compared to the aforementioned and other competitors.It's far from the worst. I'd say they're probably 3rd place overall. But it's a wide gap between them and the top 2, and I think they've spent more.
>>62354044I got like 50 shares dca 18 bucks I don't get paid until the 15th though
>>62353892The only reason I ever used fidelity was for stocks not available on Robinhood. Then they hit me with a $50 fee for buying $100 worth of SIVEF and then informed they'll charge another $50 to sell it. Now they're in my book of grudges.
>>62354046interesting, thanks anon. I vaguely understand training, there's a lot of secret sauce there with weights and stuff I'm sure. How do you do training? cloud hardware? Their own hardware? Your own hardware?
It's over for GOOGL
spacesex is going to be the most valuable company on the planet by the end of the month
>>62354072That's actually bullish for google. They make way more money if they manage to cut the AI search engine and now they can use that ruling to fuck with any other AI company inside of germany
>>62354072Dead on appeal.
>>62354055You should only buy ADRs that end in Y no F’s.
>>62354072>host google in space>let people communicate directly with google via starlink networknothing personell bureaucrafag
>>62354072Well, is the court wrong? The AI is an assistant. It's Google's assistant of which the service you use. You're not paying this nigga to then blast you with "Do your own research". Nope, either deliver a right product, or you are liable. Simple as.(That's also why selfdriving is not a thing yet)
>>62354093*Beams Google directly into your anus*
is the stock market a dopamine machine?is there anything more enjoyable in life than to see number go up
>>62354116Sex with hairy brown pussy
>>62354113Do you go to a lawyer or medical doctor, follow his advice and then when it's wrong he comes at you with>lmao, do your own researchand accept that? haha
>>62354116Seeing the numbers go up while simultaneously high on cocaine and busting nuts in sluts.
>>62354002
>>62354068It's a lot like training a human sometimes actually. Teaching it what it's doing right and wrong. It has already committed enormous amounts of information to memory, but it needs guidance on how to interpret and utilize that information. This is of course an over-simplification, and sometimes it can be a bit abstract, but generally it is running on their hardware since training is mostly done on test builds. Although the project I'm currently on is working with live versions I suppose, just in agentic workflow applications - directly replacing white collar workers basically. That last part is the reason I've invested heavily into chip companies and will invest heavily into OpenAI and Anthropic both when they IPO - they're going to provide every industry with the equivalent of millions if not billions of white collar workers.
>>62354022If you have so much money to blow for fun, why did you pick GRRR of all stocks? I was debating buying the dip yesterday but I can't help but feel like that shit is gonna -20% over the next year. If I'm gonna invest in AI or something AI-adjacent, I don't see a reason to pick GRRR. I've already read your summary of the billion dollar contracts that they've secured.
>KOSPI UP BIGLYTHAT ANON WAS RIGHT IT FOLLOWS US 1 DAY BEHIND WTFFF
>>62354120Whites for me
>>62354135So le AI is actually going to take white collar jobs? It's not a meme? I use free chatgpt for some work related stuff (Siemens plcs) and it's so beyond useless I've wasted literal hours down rabbit holes caused by retarded shit it's told me that I figured it was all fud for wagies
>>62354023one
>>62354165its so over for accountants and secretariestime for me to become a bartender i guess
I think the fed is doing shadow QE and acting accordingly
>>62354169>be me >got a backwards compat ps3 at launch for 599>mostly just played gt4 (upscaled to 1080i on my parents' 72" Toshiba DLP)>eventually got an xboxNogaems
>>62354165AI deployment is completely ass-backwards and companies are only focused on deploying AI but paying zero attention on all the mechanism and basics that provide AI with the context it needs to actually do shit. i.e. the boring stuff gets ignored and bling gets all the focus you've no doubt read that one long ass article about AI capex that tackles it from the pov of profit (can't find the link) and concluded that the only companies seeing any success with AI workflows spent a great deal of money and effort getting the non-AI basics correctly: documentation, unified data models, unified access control, etc. my company also pushes AI really hard but it's completely useless because we don't have the basics. the documentation is shit, incorrect, or missing, basic information about design and implementation is scattered across jenkins/confluence/jira/code/sharepoint, you get the picture. and yet the management keeps harping on about muh agentic workflow while refusing to allocate ANY resources on getting the basics right because, you know, that's from the past and AI is the future! so even the sharpest of frontier models hallucinate all the time and are complete wastes of time for us.
>>62353510
>>62354185Yeah iirc gt5 and mgs4 took a few years to come out and kinda killed all the hypeI got mine around 2009 I think so I had a blast i mostly just played lbp as a retarded child tho
what is the estimated IQ of current commercial frontier LLM models?is it higher than anons or not yet
>>62354191Kek
where can i watch spcx price tmrwi dont care about the ipo but it'd be funny to watch the price moveor is the ipo at a fixed price?idk im retardedciao
>>62354165>So le AI is actually going to take white collar jobs? It's not a meme?Correct. I personally estimate ~90% of all white collar jobs can be eliminated with LLMs within the next 20 years. Agentic workflows are the big focus at present and they're getting good already - existing agentic workflows are human-designed paths, but what's really being worked on is automatically-made ones according to the task. This will render >>62354188 (who is correct right now) almost irrelevant in the coming years.
you guys excited for the big crash tomorrow? mondays gonna be nuts. i wish i had more money to buy all the puts i want
Did you confirm your SPACE X shares anon? Im (hopefully) getting 600 shares :)
I'm loaded up on TLT calls. I will welcome the ridicule if I'm wrong but this feels like the trade everyone will wish they made
>>62354212I can't wait, Jewnald roping everyone in with another fake peace deal just to get enough liquidity to scam everyone who's buying the spacex ipo, retards will sell their semi's to buy the dip while it keeps dipping
>>62354199Either very high or very low depending on whether the answer to the IQ test question is also the stochastically likely answer based on its training data
>>62354193LBP was fucking dope as an idea, if they kept expanding the community features it might have blown up. PS3 just didn't have the community features that 360 had at launch, at least in my memory. I also played an absurd amount of Warhawk. And the giant crab enemy game.
>>62354199How do you estimate the IQ of something that does this? It's genius and retarded at the same time.
>>62354199It was higher IQ than most anons when it was talking about Saturpoop.
>>62354227
>>62354221What's the angle for TLT to go up. Are you guessing warsh will cut?
>>62354202You can just watch stock prices on google finance.
>>62354212>crashstopped reading there everyone knows it's the big moon mission sending stocks into SPCX plus world peace taco alpha generating the ultimate storm of green line up and to the right
>>62354231They're doing shadow qe. My source: the man in the wall told me.
>>62354188my company is like this tooat least i spend less effort to get things done
>>62354231>>62354221Might as well go TMF, like anons did in september 2024
>>62354235Hm, we could as well get a yen carry unwind story next Friday. Anyway good luck, i might go TLT after next week.
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH SPACEX TOMORROW MY BITCH BASTERDS TELL ME NOW
everyone says SPCX will crash so it will moon
>>62354228It was employing the "any attention is good attention" strategy of saying wild shit that would get people to visit and use it for a laugh.
>>62354145I think it is fundamentally undervalued as they have $5B contracts signed or 10 X market cap.They have another $5B potential contracts in closing stages to be decided over the next 18 months. Potential of $10B revenue from contracts over the next 5 years as a $500M market cap is a no brainer for me.Low debt, high cash position, securing AI infrastructure expansion on the most populous continent on Earth.It is Asian NBIS, like NBIS there is a valuation disconnect between contracts secured and market cap. Like NBIS the market will eventually take notice and it will just start popping off one day and won't stop.I have been following/trading GRRR since late 2024 when it was just $6 a share. I saw the parabolic run in early 2025 to $45, that was wave 1. We then had a descending wedge for the last 12 months, wave 2. We are now beginning wave 3 which I believe will see highs of at least $60 before correcting back to the $30's. I have other stocks and have posted many tickers on here, from DAVE to AT, IREN, RR, MU, RDDT, PURR, AOI, ONDS, KRKNF, the list is long and exhaustive.But I like GRRR the most, it is my favourite lottery ticket with a 2030 cash in date.
fugg literal jannies are going to be bag dumping on 401k waggies.
>>62354229>>62354227why is grok trained to be rude?it basically called gemini illiterate it didn't have to, it could have just said the iq range but it still wanted to be a smug ass LLM chatgpt is also quite polite, anthropic toogrok is always smug and rude/edgy in subtle ways at the minimum
>>62354255is it even legal to shill your IPO like this?
>>62354254What the fuck does revenue have to do with market cap?
>>62354249Oh its going to moon big. They reserved a massive portion for retail and institutions are fighting for as much as they can get. Plus after it listing ETFs will have to buy it to add to their indexes.
>>62354244I liked the implied volatility on the near the money calls. >>62354246I think there's actually something more than schizo ramblings though with Fannie and Freddie being used for market intervention
>>62354259yes? why wouldn't it?
>>62354257Sometimes you need to be blunt in your assessment. This is a kindness.
>>62354257>dont be rude to the heckin immigrants!!!!
>>62354170Well fwiw there's also opportunity. If you can master these AI workflows, you can be the 10% remaining, doing solo what an entire department or team would be able to do now.
>>62354259>shillit's pretty honest. if you buy you are fucked. 96% of shareholders are waiting to dump on the 4% with 2 trillion up for grabs.
>>62354261I like to think that revenue is something material to market cap valuations, that the market isn't entirely all just hype, smoke & mirrors. I like to think that, even if it isn't true.
Took the kid's college fund out and going all in on SPCX. If it doesnt moon I'm fucked. Wife comes over on Saturpoop and I don't want to explain I gambled it all
>>62354276nobody cares about revenue it is all about the future growth if revenue was so important spacex IPO wouldn't exist
Would spcx be worth it for the long term after the dump while cheap?
>>62354276Your screencap is about earnings though
Medline warehouse caught fire, puts?
>>62354278>Took the kid's college fund out and going all in on SPCXdepends on when he starts college
>>62354284100%. a 100-200b MC is much more reasonable.
>>62354291>100-200brockletab was almost 100b at its ATH lol spacex at the minimum is worth 1T
I'll log into my Schwab account in my Tesla web browser tomorrow and post my gains
Looks like PL is starting to recover after the last week dump. I was going to cancel my covered call when it was at the $31 range but I forgot. Just hope I get assigned early if it does go itm
>>62354296mhm
Can someone smart explain to me why AI component companies keep pumping? Didn't they already sell their production for the next 3 years? So they shouldn't grow for the next 3 years since they already sold everything right?I don't get it
>>62354267idunno isn't saying "buy my company and you'll make money" securities fraud or something?
>>62354284Starlink is fucking amazing as a business. The fact that they can already connect to 5g phones without hardware upgrades, mesh with existing 5g networks (and have t-mobile on board to do so), and they might have their own proprietary satellite phone business with its own hardware (imagine a starlink decoder being a cost in every phone), and there is a huge developing global middle class of customers that has patchy or no internet connections... idk that sounds fucking great as a business to me. It's the other shit I'm not sure about. But if anyone could get datacenters in space in 10 years, it's Elon. The fact that BYD is going to mug him in every market where there isn't a protective tariff has also got to be motivating.
>>62354311I dont think so but thats not what that post is about. Hes talking about how the janitors, chefs, and welders working at SPACE X were given stock options before going public so now they can actually sell them (in a few months).
>>62354311To be fair he is saying people who already own the stock will make money, nothing about people who are buying it at the IPO
>>62354310uncbabe
>>62354310>babe idwell, they can buy back shares, and if demand grows then they can raise their prices, or even a bidding war. and many of them are investing in fabs, the semiconductor equipment sector grew revenues by 14% yoy. just saw that several of inte's fabs are going to double production by '28.
>>62354311"I will make my investors money" is literally the fiduciary responsibility of the board and the CEO.
>>62354284You might not have realized this but Grok (xAI) is actually part of Space X and not Tesla.
>>62354249Maybe it crashes
>>62354321>>62354320ok fair>>62354328yeah that's their goal but promising returns is different
>>62354310probably cause they're prepping for AI agents. need a lot of CPU for that since everyone is probably going to grab one>the regular person - a personal agent>business owner - personal agent + one that does financials + one that handles some part of the businessbanks would probably assign a personal agent to their top members or some shit, they already have AI talking to you
So if this week's AI selloff was supposed to be investors rolling cash into spacex, then why were semis and AI pumping today? And wouldn't they just tank tomorrow with the IPO?
Is Trump's portfolio good or is it just a goy trap?
>>62354337*Crabs
>>62354341It was all and only technicals
>>62354327>they can raise their prices, or even a bidding warBut they can't because it's already sold for the next 3 yearsI guess if they manage to increase production then it makes sense>>62354339But how does that work with already being sold out for the next years? You can't grow if you already know everything is sold out because that is priced in
>>62354339the agent meme will become obsolete soon
>>62354341oracle announced more capex, and where do you think the funds raised from the ipo are going to be spent?
>>62354338Yeah, maybe it could be fraud if they aren't careful how they phrase it. Then again, I don't think the Trump administration is going to prosecute anyone of SEC bullshit when they could get a bribe instead.
>>62354342in a way INTC is actually 15% since NVDA owns a part of it too>INTC to 200
>>62354342Honestly seems pretty normal for an aggressive investor
>>62354342trump wanted to buy tsmc but wasn't allowed because it wouldn't be american of him
>>62354348micron has fabs underway, intel is ramping fabs. that's more capacity for everyone to use. tsmc is building fabs as well. i'm not aware of what's going on downstream of that but look at lam and amat, they are getting more orders for equipment that's used to build more chips. all the companies are leaning into this, investing in production to meet demand. and again, they can just raise prices and force customers to compete for orders. and buybacks are a real thing, and in times like these valuations tend to get extreme because investors price in the future. we're not even there yet though, nvda is like 17x forward, micron 9
The smigger sold the bottom lowThen chased it back tomorrowWhen every chart was green and steepHe aped in at the candle’s peakHe sells the floor of every dipThen buys when hope looks sweetAround and round the cycle goesA loop of pure defeatAnd when his stack has shrunk to noneAnd losses line his sheetHe’ll call his mom then call his dadTo fund his next defeat
>>62354342Is the President even allowed to own stocks? I remember Jimmy Carter had to sell his fucking peanut farm or some shit.
>>62354342When was this his portfolio? Can't be recent.
Karaoke night
>>62354342I'm also a fellow GS ownerI did own JPM as well, but I'm not as bullishthe financials of my portfolio is entirely GS now lolI own no other banksame with healthcare, the only healthcare company I own is LLYthat's the entirety of my diversification out of tech lol
if you're looking for a top in semis, keep an eye on klac and ter earnings, they sell metrology and testing equipment, that will be the first canary that things are slowing down. right now that is not the case though.
>>62354410just keep reminding this every thread pleaseand any other ideas you have for discerning a topI don't think it'll be anytime soon, though
>>62354381Did any of the first presidents need to sell their plantations? The original point was that "politician" shouldn't be a job and these should be otherwise successful people running for office.Carter put his assets in a trust. Trump did the same. You're too busy as President to actively manage your business, so you have someone else manage it for you.
>>62354410would AMAT also work in this case?
>>62354410>>62354417Whats so goo about KLAC? Seems overpriced already
>>62354421probably but they sell fixed equipment that gets ordered long in advance, those two are more consumable and you'll see the fabs cut spending there first
good night cuties see you all for SPCX day :)
I can help random smiggers build an ETF portfolioI can't help you with individual stock picks because there's almost nothing I am confident enough in to hold longer than 10 years other than Google.I can design you an ETF portfolio that is diversified, and without deadweight trash in it, and good for most market regimes.there are a lot of companies that are just a liability to hold, even in SP500, and there's some ways most of the trash can get weeded out
>>62354418Really? Damn it sounds like being a President is a free money hack then since you can literally dictate policy for your trust.
Keep in mind that no matter what, even if there is a rugpull, SpaceX will always increase in value long-term. It literally cannot fail. You think the government will allow an entire division of the military (the space force) to fail? You're crazy.There is literally no way to lose by investing in spacex. The only potential downside is the opportunity cost if there is a rugpull in the short-term. But all you have to do is just hold in that scenario.
>/smg/ talking about buying bonds againuh ohthis really is the toughest call right now. fundamentally you would have to be retarded to buy duration now. but these are levels trump pissed his pants at last and they will inevitably have to do finanical repression and make everyone buy tha bonds, why not now
>>62354448It's just me pushing it. I think I got one anon to buy a call.
I told you niggas kospi follows the US markets 1:1
>>62354442hows the NLR etf then anon? im thinking about putting my wins into this shit, give me some confirmation bias
>>62354462for awhile? i saw it another night this week
my 401k is still down 2% from friday even with the recovery pump this gaysex ipo better not fuck it up further
>>62354471I don't even know what it is
>>62354388Everybody left
>>62354442Gimme the ETF portfolio my friendo!
bros look at nebius
>>62354484sent :)
>>62354472Yea I started spreading this idea a week ago. I took profit last week on some ai datacenter trades and wanted to diversify. The 86 strike price have a super low IV, my math might be off but it's like 10x leverage if the price starts running hard.
>>62354493Thanks
by the wayif you want to hold oil equitiesdon't buy any those etfs for itthey're 100% a waste of moneyand they cut your dividends drasticallyjust don't do it. buy individual oil equities. you only need 3, and you get pretty much the same beta as XLE>XOM, CVX, and BPand bam, done, you don't need anymore. most of it is all the same exact shit
>>62354442tell me about this mix 33/33/33 equal parts VTI, SCHD, QQQ i have no direction or strategy, just thinking about moderately risky growth
I just bumped my 401k to 13% of my paycheck. I need to save more.
>>62354497it's stupid, there's no coherenceQQQ is already a bad idea, and it not being QQQM is even worse for a long term portfolioit's arbitrary like someone ust threw together random tickers and called it done. it's ot strategically designed>>62354484what is your risk appetite?
I just lied about my income to get a much bigger loan for SpaceX. :DDDDDDD
>>62354504QQQ has way bigger liquidity depth
>>62354504Any risk is fine as long as I don't need to keep tabs on it. I want to buy when I get a paycheck and then forget until my next paycheck. I don't want to do extra work to buy and sell.
>>62354509that only matters for daytrading
>>62354511>Any risk is fine as long as I don't need to keep tabs on it.Any index etf does this
>Barak Ravid>@BarakRavid>Translated from Hebrew>A diplomat from one of the mediating countries, who went over the clauses of the updated draft with me, said that "the US and Iran have reached an agreement on the text of the deal," but admitted that final approval is still required. However, American Air Force planes took off for Europe last night with equipment in preparation for the possibility of a trip by Vice President Vance to a signing ceremony in Geneva in the coming days.>we've agreed on the text>now we can agree on the agreement
>>62354508lol based
NEW:>>62354516>>62354516>>62354516
>>62354508>i was expecting a bonus this yearWhat are they going to do about. You can be stupid enough to expect any bonus you want they can't prove shit.
>>62354511you dont need to keep tabs on any stockif you need to recheck all the time you are buying meme stuff
>>62354511AVUS 75%VGT 25%or just 100% AVUSthink of it like VTI without the trash
>>62354508>I just lied about my income to get a much bigger loan95% of the companies in sp500 do this
>>62354529>>62354511I mean not completely without trash, but with 90% of the deadweight trash gone
>>62354519He's making JD sign that shit for the same reason he made RFK eat mcdonalds on the plane. Trump is a shit but he's so hilarious and the way he treats his little cuckbois is funny as fuck.
>>62354521In this economy?
>>62353553insiders and early buyers are locked in for one year. if it dumps, it will be all on the dumb money
>>62353651I sold some REIT shares. They were gonna go towards rebalancing my portfolio, but I will FOMO at open instead and hope to capture a 20% before taking profit and letting half the position run.It’s fucking hard to plan this out without historical price, but I am fucking ready.
>>62353777It’s a pump and dump at best. Generational wealth is buying from single digit bucks a share. Buy SPCE for real generational wealth. They have nowhere to go but up.
>>62354442any ETF that tries to "weed out the trash" doesn't show any significant increase in returns, if it does at all, compared to sp500, and with increased fees to boot. Don't bother
