awkward emma edish>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.com>Financial TV Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/>Charts:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://www.finscreener.comhttps://www.portfoliovisualizer.com>Screeners:https://finviz.com/https://etfdb.com/>Gambling:https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Pre-Market and Live data:https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Calendars:https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.htmlhttps://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits>Boomer Investing 101:https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc:https://www.financialjuice.com/homehttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://market24hclock.com/https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-ratespreviously: >>62353510
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BROS LOOK AT NEBIUS HOLY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
My entire financial future is about to be in this mans hands
>>62354442this is not all ETFs, but what do you think about throwing some risky growth-oriented mutual funds into the mix? something like 70% VOO and 30% memefund.
Don't miss out on SPCX, biz. Don't let it run away from you.You in?
>>62354531#cookedWill be reminiscent the Facebook launch
I'm going to make it
>>62354537
>>62354533mutual funds? no, definitely not, they're higher fee and a wasteand I don't recommend VOO
VOO and chill baby
>>62354546what do you recommend, then? high-ish risk tolerance, willing to sit through shaky periods.
SPCX lmao, why not LOFF
ETF smigger are you here? What do you think of this 20% SCHD 20% VXUS 40% TQQQ 10% BRKB 5% SOXL 5% DRAM
>>62354518The funniest thing possible will be if it goes to 1000 and the rest of the markets collapse when the oil shock finally hits after trump signs a peace deal. I don't want that to happen, but it would be the funniest outcome possible so I think it's probably the most likely one.
How do you guys determine when to exit (sell) out of an investment/stock? Do you wait for a certain % return, depends on the news, gut feeling, etc?
The SPCX FOMO is too real. What the fuck do I do?
>>62354559If I have learned anything this last decade its that the funniest outcome will be the one that happens. So ya, total economic destruction except for SPCX. This will also include TSLA crashing and being bought up for cheap by Space X
>>62354558>SCHDmeh>VXUSbad>TQQQgreat>SOXLgood>DRAMgreat
i mustachemogged my father in law
Anyone else loaded up on SPXC for that dyslexic retard pump?
>>62354549VGT or IGMtech out performs every other sector greatlyand of the last 20 years, tech has been up every year but 2it performs as well as 3x leveraged SP500 and you don't have to worry about losing everything >>62354558nowhat is with the SCHD fixation? why is it so important? is it the dividends?get rid of TQQQ, SOXL, and DRAMreplace all three withTECLthe second the memory trade or semi trade looks like it's slowing down you are cooked, and I mean you lose it all. at least with TECL if one sector blows up you don't have everything evaporate. you still get all that shit with 3x leverageby buying BRKB you are paying a buffet premium that is 40% the value over NAV. BRKB is a holding company. It's not orth a 40% premium. there are better ways to get less volatilityDFAX for international
>>62354563When the expected return is lower than the required return to justify the level of risk
Everyone saying it will be a rug pull, reversal is real right. This SpaceX is gonna 10x like SanDisk
I will just dump half at 20% gain. I don’t wanna get burned by a second BYND.
SPCX baggies are we ready?
>>62354578It has to flip golds market cap to teach rock boomers a lesson. So it's an easy 20x.
>>62354563Try using a trailing stop loss or an indicator like the 10 ema crossing under the 20 ema.
>>62354516how does the space x IPO work?Will i get filled at at 135 price or?
>>62354559If this happens I won't even be mad.
SMIGGERS DO I CHASE THE SPCX PUMP OR NOT
>>62354544holy BASED
>>62354586Nope, you don’t buy market at open. You will get SODOMIZED by the biggest slippage in stock market history.
>>62354590Dont chase the pump anon, be the pump
I perfectly predicted that after being held in stasis for some time they would save SpaceX IPO for the exact moment markets crashed.No one will ever give me credit for this, so the universe rewarded me by 5Xing my account on an unrelated trade. Justice (for me),
>>62354563don't ever trust gut feeling when trading or investingthe market is a mindfuck on even the best
FUCK I missed my chance. I can't even buy any pre-IPO spacex stock anymore.... AHHHHH
>>62354601put in some $150 buys, it'll be fulfilled. >on the way down
>>62354537>don’t miss out on the balls of toxic radioactive dust which regularly reaches -450F, we’re gunna live in space just like Star Trek!
Ill gladly sell you a few of my shares fren see you in 12 hrs
>>62354605Will you quit defaulting to retarded comparisons for satellite infrastructure, solar power, and rare metals in asteroids? It drowns out sensible concerns of over-valuation when your primary complaint is that a fictional TV show isn't going to happen.
>>62354576SCHD is my retirement position. By the time I retire I'll be getting the exact amount of dividends I need to live with. It also takes into account that everything else could go to zero and I would still be fine to retire.TECL looks like a good pick.Never hard of DFAX before.Then should I go 20% SCHD 20% DFAX and 60% TECL?
>>62354597>-2%Nice "crash", buddy.
>>62354604Did you guys see that weird gook who put a 30 million dollar short on spacex the other day?
>>62354544I will too Essex. I must make it, I will make it. Envision the portfolio hitting $1m, then $10m. One very big multibagger and I make it. I just need to all in and somehow the option goes multibagger and I don't sell until just the right price.
what stats do you look for first in prospective stocks of industrial nature? what about energy? explain
>>62354605yall really have no idea how much fun it is to live on the ISS and it shows.
>>62354617Nasdaq dump almost 10% in 5 days
>>62354629average nasdaq pullback unironically
>>62354623this is not the way anon, you need to sell when you can to recoup your investment and play with house money only, set a 20% trailling stop on that position. slow & steady
bros check this out
Who here didn't buy the dip, speak up
>>62354633>giving terrible advicethere is no house moneyits just moneyoldest trick in the book is for the house to hand over house money, because you will risk it more freely, lose it, and this will drive you to loss chasing behavior.never think this wayits just money, no matter where it came from
Those with a main "core" diversified ETF in their portfolio, what is it and what % of your portfolio does it take up compared to your other investments?
>>6235464966% in DRAM 33% in neoclouds
what's to stop someone from buying stock, and then selling it at a higher price at a later date? shouldn't there be safeguards in place to prevent that?
>>62354649also 1.5% s.m.h1.5% arkq1% arkk
>>62354652Goto bed Elizabeth
>>62354633>>62354647https://youtu.be/LtFyP0qy9XU
How'd NDX go up another 2% since I looked? Another peace deal?
>>62354652the claymore mines hidden inside the door
>>62354662https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaoejgnFFP8
>>62354647>because you will risk it more freely, lose it, and this will drive you to loss chasing behavioryoure just letting it ride with a 20% trailing stop tho
>>62354649>being a rise with the tide mumu occasionally>being a rise with the tide effeminate mumu who thinks options are scarry>being a rise with the tide pats himself on the back for avg returns mumu who think shorting is scarry and is attracted to men secretly>being a rise with the tide pats himself on the back mumu who is such an utter effeminite indecisve no-confidence tranny ranbow socks wearing girl he can't even pick his own stocks,he just like....INVEST IN LIKE ALL THE STOCKS, CAUSE WHAT IF HE WERE WRONG!? (S)HE MIGHT LOSE MONEY!>?!
>>62354652There is, they're called bears, they come out when markets go down for a few days to convince you to sell and then they leave.
>>62354652Nothing, it's an infinite money glitchThe jews don't want you to know
>>62354516Just ordered some spacex IPO stocks. It will at least pump initially right?
>>62354671i never use stops, if i'm wrong, i take it like a man.thats how you get better.its like poker.if you're shit at trading it doesn't matter if you get lucky or how many times you run it.bad players eventually give it back, good players eventually make it back. simple as.most of you will always be shit, even if you have good years, because you never hold yourselves accountable for anything and hide behind 20 layers of protection.
>>62354646I bought wen green, not during redt. INTC 118 basis
>>62354680impossible, the cutoff was like 2 days ago. sure it wasn't a normal order at like $140?
wouldn't the safest time to get into SPCX be after all the float is done with the lockup? December at the earliest?
>>62354652don't you know the rule? buy high sell low
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_33
>the calm before the storm
PLEASE REDEEM THE SPACESEX SAAR
hows the nikkei doing
>>62354702Check and tell us
>>62354647>oldest trick in the book is for the house to hand over house money, because you will risk it more freely, lose it, and this will drive you to loss chasing behavior.Unironically this has happened to me in the past.>>62354671I don't do that, I prefer watching it myself. Nonetheless I am desperate to get rich. Playing it safe will not get me there fast enough unless of course it's a 10 year bull market, then I probably will succeed. Or pic related happens where some generous rich guy just gives me money no strings attached? Unlikely.
>>62354693I can't sleep over the imminent, massive crash that's about to happen. I should sell, I should take profits, but what if nothing happens?
>>62354694>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_33What about the financhu crisis?
>>62354709how is he not homeless and still eating enough to be chunky? does he have an income? god forbid, a fansly?
>>62354711The Kiwifarms tranny chasers are his paypigs I'm pretty sure.
>>62354713They belong together.
>>62354706It’s been fooling anons since before there was writing.Banish “house money” from your vocabulary.
>>62354713That site has done irreparable damage to the world
>>62354711Im pretty sure he's in prison for fucking his dementia riddled mother
>>62354683based chips believer, INTC is going to 200 dont worry
>>62354672Post portfolio
>>62354664The peace deal to end all peace deals
>>62354722Shut up, Quarterpounder
You either assume that trump will successfully patio everyone into forgetting Hormuz is ongoing or you assume the market is rationale and short.
my shorts are cooked aren't theywe'll get a god candle pump to liquidate me and then have a 80% crash, i can feel it
so if the spacex stock is currently oversubscribed by a factor of 350% how can it really even go down? retail can't sell without getting banned from future IPOs. Are you confident that spacex stakeholders will liquidate? Maybe they'll pull a steve jobs and sell everything just to make it dump so they can buy even more shares.
N's and J's thoughbeit
>>62354709they didn't have a money printer then
>>62354759I am more byutifool dhan this anon
>>62354756haha space dude 420 lets goooooo (won't be on the moon in +5 years)
What's the naked dogeza of finance?
>>623545493x qqq which is TQQQLook at the chart and decide for yourself if you have the stomach for it
>>62354616that would be okbut the volatility will be extremeit'll have vaguely, twice the volatility of SPY. So if SPY drops 20%, you drop 40%if spy drops 40% you drop 80% off hand, but as you get above 40, it quickly goes to almost nothingif SPY drops 45-50% you lose 99.99% of the value you have in TECL40% or greater drops have happened before, like in 2008I wouldn't recommend 3x leverage for anyone but if you're going to do it, it's better than SOXL and DRAM
>>62354651*kisses you*
>>62354649I have about 110k NW, and maybe 12k in a DPSP fund at work (Walmart), which I chose to allocate into global and emerging markets. Maybe 11%?
so uhhh what price does cuck x close at?also just found out that google has shares in space x and anthropic, so they'll make an easy couple hundred bil this year
>>62354791>it'll have vaguely, twice the volatility of SPYFor those wondering, this is usually captured by Beta
A final doom approaches. God help us
>>62354783Treasury bonds
>infinite money for retarded giant rocket to go to moon and mars which is Antarctica except there is not gold, no oil, you can never go outside, and you its poisonous and radioactive>not 3million to spare to finish animating all of spice and wolf
>>62354797okay*hangs up*
>>62354652Hello ayylienAre you afraid of tapwater ayylien?
>>62354800Holy ESL batman
>>62354800redeem the anime saar
>first time traders take friday off to buy spcx >price volatility either discourages them or is outside of their buying power >"what's that other tech company called again? n-videos or something?" >the rest of tech fucking skyrockets while spacex falls into the gutterthis is my prediction
>>62354800Just buy SPCX, get rich and pay for it yourself
>>62354825heres hoping, i bought some intc at close
Even if you're very bullish on semisriding SOXL, all it takes is the hint the semi trade so slowing down and I think SOXL will dump 80% at leastall these people think it's a bubble.you can see the volatility now, that they all scarmble out at the slightest hint that semis might slow downand actually having one bad quarter would bsically liquidate the value you have in SOXLand I'm very bullish. I'm the biggest bull here. At the same time, the market is retarded and overreacts. By using high leverage, in one sector, you are completely at the mercy of the retards. And you are trapped there. Say you hold UPRO instead of SOXL. There's significant weight of semis in SP500, and if the semi trade ruptured, you'd take a huge hit in UPRO. But it wouldn't be over. You wouldn't be trapped. There would be recovery eventually in other sectors. So after the semi trade ends, and then there's a general tech rally excluding semis, you get to ride the tech rally since SP500 is heavy tech. The point is, by using more broad sector leverage you aren't trapped in one sub sector that may not recover for years.Hopefully this makes sense. There is high risk in over concentration. Even unleveraged much less leveraged. I'll give you a good example. If you were over concentrated in banks during the 2008 crash. The market began recovering after a year. And was at ne all time highs in like 2012 or something. It took banks 10 years to recover from it. That's what over concentration will do to you.Just imagine how much of a bloodbath the memory trade will be once it ends, and memory goes back to being an oversupplied commoditity.
>>62354707take magnesium before bed and get knocked out like a baby
>>62354837People think that's impressive but he's going to surpass it with the even more impressive stat of dozens of peace deals in a single day.
KEK BAGGIES
>>62354844That only happens the first few days when you genuinely replenish your low magnesium levels. After the initial boost, your magnesium levels normalize and you won't get "knocked out" anymore.But yeah, the first night of magnesium supplementation, my body was so relaxed that I thought my body had sleep paralysis.
>>62354850interesting. i've been taking it before bed for almost a year and it still gets me very drowsy 30-60 minutes into imbibing it
>>62354531Does it matter when you can just be a cumchugger and say you were a millionaire making 250k a year but 'got bored' and 'spent it all on hookers' like all the larpers on this website.
>>62354853Really? For me the effects were muted after the first few days. I'm thinking that my body was severely deficient before taking magnesium, got my ass kicked the first few nights, and then the body got used to the new normal.
>>62354563when the losses either become too great or there is an exit pump that allows me to break even, or I've been watching what was supposed to be a good investment randomly pump 10% and then sell down to my break even and exit with 200 bucks in gains.
it's funny how people think buffet is the greatest investor
>>62354531Oh god you're going to regret that. It's almost as stupid as waiting for a shitcoin to moon.Why not wait 6 months for the dump and the last stage of VC exit (the legal one) and buy at fair price once it stabilises for a sixth of what's today?
>>62354857yes, the drowsy effect is definitely muted now, i'd say 70% reduction in drowsiness from taking it the first time a year ago. still, the drowsy level i feel with vs without it is very much noticeable. excellent at putting me to sleep and keeping me asleep through whatever ethnic noise happens outside.
it's funny if El*n wasn't a fag, a SPCX at 175 billion probably would have 10xed.Anyway I bought more micron because I am greedy, but also the market having large ipos is usually a sign we are nearing the top.
NASDAQ FUTURES ARE RED THE DEAL IS FAKEYOU'RE LOCKED INTO SPACEX BAGS
>>62354652Yes its' called sometimes the market is a scam and just goes down for no fucking reason for months at a time.
>>62354863I might have to experiment a bit more to compare weeks with magnesium and without
>>62354707>>62354693The calm before the nothing, space x isn't on the s and p. Only nasdaq gets raped.
Why does Elon gotta do us dirty like this. Doesn't he have enough wealth as it is?
why is everybody buying now after the rally?why not buy two days ago?
>>62354864>if the valuation was 10x lower it could go 10x higher Holy shit we got the next Warren Buffet over here
>>62354866All stocks have been converted into SpaceX shares, thanks for your attention to this matter
>>62354876Elon shipping all the stocks off to mars so spacex will be the only stock on the NASDAQ
what's your price for SpaceX?for me, it's 750 billion, then I'd consider buying itand that's still a high valuation, but their launch capabilities, satelites, starships, and vertical integration would be worth it. they don't really have a competitor and an do things no other company can doi don't think it's because Elon Musk is great. think Elon Musk is a grifter. It's just a potentially great company despite Elon Musk
does anyone know if SPCX will be available to trade during premarket?
>>62354864Why would a business selling shares intentionally try to undersell? Then all the share value would go to other people and not the business that initially sold.
Should I be pulling out of my Nasdaq 100 related ETFs if SpaceX IPO rug pull could jeopardize its returns? Or would it not make enough of a difference if it somehow tanks in the near future?
>>62354886Obviously not dumbass
>>62354866Tomorrow will open flat and stay flat until 11, when some fud/bad trump tweet will be dropped, this will be reversed by some leaks on the private swapping of SpaeX shares for a little pump, it will then retard pump taking the market with it.Somewhere, emanating from a deep dark hole, the sobs of a "value" investor will be heard, a passing divy boomer will tut, and the distant sirens of squad cars heading to the house of pmg schizo having his 3rd violent mental health episode will close the act.
>>62354892no need to be rude, it's not obvious
how tf is dram down everything is pumping crazy
>>62354893they didn't rush this IPO if it was going to be good
>>62354889it would make up less than 1% of the weight lolunless SpaceX doubles in valuation after IPO then it'd be weighted at just over 1% lolif you're so concerned about trash in QQQif you're holding QQQ you're invested in Comcast lol and other telecomms with no growth. And Kraft lolI'd take SpaceX over Kraft lol
>>62354713>kiwifarms tranny chasers are boosting gdp by creating an entertainment product
>>62354895I'm sorry <3. It starts trading around noon I believe.
is dram a scam? Samsung, sky hynix and kiaoxia are all mooning and dram is down 2%
>>62354896See >>62354849Fear in korea
>>62354903>mtf rebranding was a value-addthe invisible hand is an enigma
>>62354889I would do it just to send a message
>>62354908the Korean ram stocks are mooning tho
My soxl cost is 20 dollars
>>62354884I do think it's 1T+ honestly, it has a monopoly that effectively cannot be broken unless they catastrophically fuck up, and say what you will about Musk but his companies tend to be pretty stableNot buying the IPO though
How legit is BOATS overnight trading market prices as an indicator for market open prices? Is there enough volume flowing through it at those hours to be anything meaningful, or would premarkets be better for this?
the rug really needs to get pulled on korea againto liquidate the gamblers the last dump didn't finish offI'm serious as well. Koreans are going to fuck this up for everybody. They're in full euphoria bubble mode, and they're single handed pushing US stocks to absurd gains. You'd be surprised how a small country, with high leverage, could push a whole US sector on their ownthey made this shit go vertical. like it was bitcoinit's a problem. a huge problem. koreans are exacerbating the bubble fears. pushing markets up too quickly, too out of control. prices can only grow so much and remain stable. We should hope for consistent, steady, high gains. Everybody wins. If the market did 20% a year, but at a steady, and consistent rate, with small dips here and there it would be great. 20% a year is very high, but it's not growing in price rapidly enough to cause extreme bubble fear. Everybody will wininstead, if Koreans were in charge, they'd run the market up 100% in a month and blow this bitch and cause the bottom to fall out. I think there needs to be rules on countries that are in euphoria mode. Basically, ban Koreans from trading on US exchanges until they learn to be reasonable. The market would be much calmer, and everybody would win. Even the Koreans. It doesn't do those dumb bastards any good to buy the pump of a massive blow off top. They'd be protected from themselves. If you want to see what a real bubble is like, look at Korea.
>>62354797everything is going to be fine fren...right?
So premarket volume runs ~40x higher than the peak overnight hour. That's not a marginal difference.What this means for using BOATS prices as an open indicatorFor broad index products (SPY, QQQ, etc.), BOATS prices overnight carry real signal only in narrow cases:Macro overnight catalyst (Fed speech, major geopolitical event, Asian inflation data) — the 3 AM spike can reflect genuine repositioning and the price move will likely hold into premarket.Single-stock news — earnings or M&A announced during the window can move a name hard on BOATS, but spreads will be wide and price can whipsaw once premarket opens and real volume enters.Outside of a clear catalyst, the thin volume means a handful of large orders can push prices around without representing consensus sentiment. A BOATS price that drifted 0.5% overnight on low volume is mostly noise; it'll likely get corrected the moment premarket opens at 4 AM and real liquidity floods in.The practical hierarchyFor predicting open prices, ranked by reliability:Premarket 4–9:30 AM ET — highest volume, most liquid, closest to actual openFutures (ES, NQ) — trade nearly 24/5 with deep liquidity, arguably more useful than BOATS for index-level directional biasBOATS 8 PM – 4 AM — useful as a directional flag, particularly if something significant happened in Asia, but don't anchor to specific pricesBOATS in the 9–10 PM window specifically — where the Asian-open volume concentration is, this is the most "real" part of the overnight sessionBottom line: BOATS prices aren't meaningless, but thin volume means they're better treated as a sentiment directional signal than a price anchor. If BOATS is up 1.5% on SPY, that's worth noting — but your actual open price prediction should be confirmed or contradicted by premarket once 4 AM hits and volume becomes meaningful.
wellp dram is down to prices it was trading at during market hours yesterday in spite of everything ripping rn
Sup cuties. I just watched some VR orgy porn and then took a hot shower and I feel pretty awesome right now. Sucks pumps and dumps. That's basically all life is about.
>>62354944just by a doll and ava ai by razer.
sk hynix is up almost 4% and that's 25.5% of dramSamsung is up almost 8% and that's 17.67% of dramKiaoxia is up over 8% and that's 7.65% of drameverything else is flat, barely down or greenHow tf is dram down ??
Who leveraged up for tomorrow?I didn't leveragge up, but I dumped my hedges this morning
>>62354964i leveraged down a few minutes before the tacopost and now i can't stop staring at the charts begging for it to fall
>>62354955>and ava ai by razer.I do have the cum jar already. Did you know that the game company that was contracted to build Grok Companions and Ava AI by Razer is called Animation.inc? They have a new app coming out June 30. I'm excited.
>>62354956mu just started to go down a bit but it was only down around 1% at the time so that doesn't explain it at all
So what's going to happen tomorrow? Will there be a huge dump in the S&P as people scramble to buy SpaceX? Will QQQ surge? Will there be a lot of volume? How can we profit off of this historic day?
eurpoor here, i got 40k€ on my portfolio and i was thinking of going all in on photonics. thoughts?
/smg/ home alone on Space X eve? Pathetic.
>Hello, I’m calling you about your car’s limited time SpaceX IPO warranty.Please make it stop, good grief.
>>62354969just made my reservation for ava. people are really not paying attention to this. what's the app? ai companion too?
>>62354965uhI noticed the rally was in during open, but waited until late morning to confirm before dumping. I was watching for sustained high volume buyingand during this time you were ditching leverage after presumably riding it all the way down
>>62354986holy mother of top signalsbaffling that "people" like you manage to save up that much and then just blow it all away on a whim. animalistic moron
dram is a fucking scam I'm never buying this shit again
>>62354995>what's the app?It's called "Animates - life companions". Only on the IOS store I think.
At this point, over the last few weeks, I can't even count the number of times I told people to not buy DRAMbut they keep buying it
>>62354999Did you seriously buy at $69. It's already recovered a bit
>>62355001noted
>>62355011no I bought this morning I've bought it several times I've never seen Korea pump so hard and dram shit the bed makes no sense
Anyone think DRAM could possibly reach a new high some time between now and a month from now?Or could it have already reached some kind of maximum at $70?
>>62354913youMight be a top signWith your non-ability to read charts.
>>62355025I mean yesterday morning lol
>>62354647This. Unrealized losses are real losses. Unrealized gains are real gains (except taxes). Dont be a fucking idiot
>>62354927DUMP the AI sectorThen in september when everything is cheap, run it back up for round 2.
This could be a grand vendredi
>>62355029dram was at 65 BEFORE KOREA EVEN OPENED you shitter and Samsung which is a huge part of the fund closed up almost 8% there's no fucking way it sent down that much
>>62355033yeah, noI'm not dumping anything and missing a quarter of gains
