Isn't it funny how the intellectuals of free market capitalism (Frederick Bastiat), Distributism (Hilaire Belloc) Communism (Lenin) and Nazism (Hitler) all collectively agreed that central banks owned by private banking families that loan fictitious money to the government and get paid back by taxes is literally cancer and needs to be removed? Like every single side of politics since the early 1900s agreed these things were cancer. Yet here we are 100 years later and these usurious central banks are more powerful than ever. Like that's quite curious I thought!
>>62388563they were all gay and seething
>>62388563Usury is gay
>>62388563>/biz/I agree, it is highly "curious," but this isn't the place for it
lmao communists have always supported central banking
>>62389628Central banking for centrally planned economies of working class states.Not crapitalist Central Banking for free gibs to private sector kike oligarchs
>>62388563As long as you have a state, you'll have central bankslolbertarians were right #28302980928
Because they're all tiny hat ideologies
>>62389641>devaluing the wages and savings of the working class is le goodlmao why do communist bootlickers hate the working class so much?all communists deserve to be drowned
>>62389641I miss the DDRCapital won, the working class lost big and hasn't realized it yethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EByAEp3Dw9Q
>>62389662Who else was supposed to own the money printer if not the government? in a CENTRALLY PLANNED economy without private commerce
>>62389776>I miss this shithole that made workers poorerlmao>>62389790>Who else was supposed to own the money printer if not the government?Nobody, retard. Printing money is fraud. Money should be based on commodities like gold or silver. Inflation hurts the poor the most.
>>62389854Wouldn't inflation hurt hoarders the most? In any case a basket of commodities your country actually produces makes more sense than going with precious metals
>>62389892>Wouldn't inflation hurt hoarders the most?Why? They already have a lot of money. If their money gets devalued a bit, they're still incredibly rich. Not only that but they have their money in stocks or housing which always goes up with inflation.The poor have barely anything and rely on their wages and savings which get destroyed.>In any case a basket of commodities your country actually produces makes more sense Wrong. PMs have been money for all of human history. They have all of the properties of money so they will be money.Money is supposed to increase in value over time. Why would you want a commodity you need to survive to increase in price?
>>62389854ancaps are seriously this fucking stupid.
>>62389913>no argumentIt's funny that Libertarians ended up being right about everything in the end.Inflation comes from money printing.You are wrong and retarded.
>>62389902Stocks? Housing? Not under communism comrade. And why should gold hoarders get rewarded instead of the workers who actually produce? "PMs have been money for all of human history" so what, same for beads and seashells
>>62389917"libertarian working class" is just lolLaissez-faire capitalism leads to robberbarons hoarding wealth and exploiting workers but it's private so I guess thats ok. You'd love 1800s England
>>62389935>Not under communism comrade.Okay. then the working class just loses their purchasing power and gets poorer over timeHow is this any better?>And why should gold hoarders get rewarded instead of the workers who actually produce?Because the gold hoarders would BE the workers, retard.>>62389944Socialism is a violent psyop war against the working class and your dumb brain fell for it lol>Laissez-faire capitalism leads to robberbarons hoarding wealth and exploiting workers but it's private so I guess thats ok.You mean the gilded age? That was based and we need to bring back the laws of that era.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilded_Age>The rapid expansion of industrialization led to real wage growth of 40% from 1860 to 1890, spreading across the expanding labor force. The average annual wage per industrial worker, including men, women, and children, rose from $380 in 1880 ($12,678 in 2025 dollars[1]) to $584 in 1890 ($20,210 in 2025 dollars[1]), a gain of 59%.[2] All "hoarding wealth" means is someone refrains from consuming resources, leaving them in the economy for others to consume. Leftists don't know how money works. They think it's magic stored goods and services or something lol
>>62389963no you moron the relative gains are invested back into the public instead of being hoarded and snowballed into private estates
>>62389963Why do you think that era was congruent with socialist revolutionary thought spreading like wildfire until a few decades after the gilded age the world seemed convinced world revolution would be inevitable? Oh I know! Those greedy workers had it too good, that's what you get for being too kind to your slaves haha
>>62389975>no you moron the relative gains are invested back into the publiclol when the government invests in things it doesnt care about what consumers actually want and ends up being inefficient and wasteful most of the timethats why the ussr was such a shitholeCapitalists actually invest in what consumers want. Also even if capitalists stored their money in their mattresses, it would simply force prices down, benefitting workers>>62389981>Why do you think that era was congruent with socialist revolutionary thoughtBecause the ideology just started and people are retarded.Living standards objectively improved during this time and it was entirely the result of private investment.>the world seemed convinced world revolution would be inevitable?Nobody believed this except a few commie manbabies.>slavesyou people literally support north korealol lmao even
>>62390002What do consumers really want? Marketers decide. Algorithms. Tiktok influencers... No longer do we need an army of bureaucrats for the central planning bureau, it can be done by AI and citizens digitally filing their wishes
>>62390002Like you are so fucking wrong on these things. Industrialisation made everything WORSE for the worker and it only got better because of worker class consciousness and action.The fear of world revolution was very real.The Kim dynasty worship is cringe but holding out against the encroach of capital at all costs is kinda based, China is revisionist to an extent its just capitalism though I keep faith it's a temporary phase
>>62390023>What do consumers really want? Marketers decide. Algorithms. Tiktok influencers...LMAOAt the end of the day, the individual decides. You want to take that away from them and force them to only consume what the state says they can.You're a vicious authoritarian bootlicker that deserves death.>No longer do we need an army of bureaucrats for the central planning bureau, it can be done by AI and citizens digitally filing their wisheslmaoWhat about the economic calculation problem?What about scarcity? What if there is not enough stuff to go around? How do you ration things fairly?Why should those who work less be granted the same amount of goods as those who work more?What about small businesses and services like if I want to mow my neighbors lawn for $40? What if I want to have a garage sale?Would those be banned as well?Kill yourself>>62390039>Industrialisation made everything WORSE for the workeI posted data showing it made them far better.How the actual fuck do you people deny something so blatantly obvious. It's like denying grass is green.More goods and services were produced using less inputs. Those goods and services went to the working class.Do the fucking math, you brainlet.Not only did wages increase during this time but working hours fell too. picrel>it only got better because of worker class consciousness and action.Unions were like 4% of the workforce back then yet conditions improved for decades.You're just wrong.>The Kim dynasty worship is cringeIt's the outcome of your ideogy.Almost every communist online now supports north korea. All of your friends want this totalitarian dictatorship.>but holding out against the encroach of capital at all costs is kinda based,lmao there is is>enslaving and impoverishing millions just to spite america is based >Chinalmao maoism killed tens of millions, it was a collasal fucking failure.The entire reason they're not starving to death right now was the capitalist reforms
>>62390099> maoism killed tens of millionsGood we should kill more, after we exterminate the last bourgeois kulak parasite traitor saboteur humanity will be free
>>62390107you're very likely trolling, which is finejust remember the people who mao killed were peasants/workersimagine thinking it's a good thing if the state forced you onto an inefficient collective farm, stole your grain and shot you if you tried to leavethat's maoism
>lists the countries that you can never be rich in except if you are part of the elite or mafiaLMAO
>>62390113Half trolling but also serious. Mistakes were made but we should do it again anyway. And the Cultural Revolution was based too, we should destroy the old traditions
>>62390118Okay so you know the shit you support causes mass suffering to the working class but you support it anyway.I'm always curious about this.Do you get off on torturing humans? Is it a sexual thing for you?Explain.
>>62388563The Fed already existed in the market in the form of JP Morgs clearing house.The only difference is that now its under government control instead of the bankers themselves. You can say this doesn't really matter as voting is fake and gay and its still controlled by bankers anyway, and you may be right, but the Fed was going to exist one way or the other, just like capitalism was going to exist regardless of the birth of Adam Smith.>but bigbrains sayBigbrains, especially lefty bigbrains, have been responsible for most of the suffering in the world today.Hearts in the right place, but they have BIG egos that lead them to overestimate their intelligence and discount the hive. Picrel was literal hell on earth (thankfully destroyed recently due to being a nest of human suffering), designed by a big brained short sighted commie to be a utopia. This sort of thing happens all the time.
>>62390124Radical change simply requires a period of suffering for anyone, it's the working class that'll come out as masters of the world however.Personally I do intend to join the state security apparatus
>>62390131>Radical change simply requires a period of suffering for anyoneBut it doesn't. You support needless suffering because you get off on suffering. You shouldn't exist.Maoist policies did all of these thing and it resulted in nothing but extreme poverty and death until deng came along, liberalized and radically reduced poverty.>it's the working class that'll come out as masters of the world however.This is the cultist brainwashing I see lol>the state is US, we are the statePeak bootlicker retard>Personally I do intend to join the state security apparatusyou're not going to be wearing the boot, the boot will be in your face
>>62390137Sexually I'm fond of BDSM dynamics and the idea of killing women turns me on more than having sex but i guarantee you it has nothing to do with my politics
>>62390140Oh so your desire to cause endless human suffering is more of a non-sexual, psychological thing.I see.You still deserve death honestly. It's sad something like this can happen to a human brain like Jeffrey dahmer and john wayne gacyat least you admit your ideology doesn't work and just causes death and poverty, most communists aren't that honest
>>62390143It just hasn't been correctly applied yet. Capitalism also causes death and poverty but at least communism tries to reinvent itself. One day we'll make it work
>>62390147>It just hasn't been correctly applied yet.Oh now your changing your argument to this LOLI thought maoism was based and causing mass suffering to the workers while enslaving them is good actually?>Capitalism also causes death and poverty Not really, unless you lie like communists do and claim every war in history and every death from old age is capitalism's fault somehow>One day we'll make it work>one day total enslavement and banning people from voluntarily trading with each other will workit won't and you won't do shit lol
>>62388563Isnt it funny that you all are fat cheetos eating spergs that only exist because of low child mortality? Get drowned by a nigger.
>>62390153Maoism was based in most regards but there were some mistakes made that I admit. And these mistakes often did cause tremendous harms to sections of the working class. But most harm in general went to the ones who deserved it the most. The exploiters, the counter-revolutionaries etc. Specifically the ideas and practice of destroying the old world and culture and the integration of the lumpenproletariat appeal to me
>>62390161>Maoism was basedWhy? All it created was a totalitarian slave state, starved tens of millions of workers to death and heavily hindered economic development.If they went full liberal after ww2, they would be much more advanced and have higher wages.Workers in Taiwan make almost 4x higher wages than workers in china.You hate the working class so you probably think lower wages is a good thing lol>some mistakesTens of millions of deaths isn't "some mistakes".>But most harm in general went to the ones who deserved it the most.Your brain knows nothing but petty revenge and you're willing to enslave and kill your fellow human just to spite some business owner.Also it was middle class people, those who worked the hardest who suffered the most under maoism.>the counter-revolutionariesSo people who don't want to be enslaved to the state? People who want human rights? lolSee, this is why you deserve death.>Specifically the ideas and practice of destroying the old world and culture and the integration of the lumpenproletariat appeal to meNone of these terms have concrete meaning, you've just been brainwashed by ideology.
>>62389647> tiny hat ideologies for tiny minds
>>62390023> mfw the algorithm knows what i want better than i dojust let the ai run everything already, humans are just noise in the system
>>62388563>The most retarded ideologies in human history all shared a common idea I'm starting to think the Jews are the good guys at this point
>>62390904But then how will grabbler vampires attain immortality from the peoples blood?
>>62389641Unironically non government controlled central banks are way better than communist central bank.
>>62389854No, deflation does hurt the poorer. The sweet spot is like a little bit of inflation like 1% or 2%.
>>62390952how is national socialism retarded ?
>>62391657>Unironically non government controlled central banks are way better than communist central bank. Liars and theives or theives that lie?Cool it with the antisemitic comparisons...
>>62391665>The reason why I'm poor is because of central bankNo
>>62388563I read first 7 words and realised this was a gay commie thread.Jews want to herd all lefty Jew haters towards communism to get them back under control, it's that simple.
>>62391673>NoCorrect.
>>62391658>getting more for your money hurts youlmaopeople also always forget progressive income tax + inflation means your income tax is steadily growing. Guys hitting tax cap would be considered poor and pay half 50y ago. system is setup to make people steadily poorer with each decade
>>62389776you can just move to transnistria
