Every time I see the UK mentioned here, it is always in a negative light.It is always>In the USA, wages are better!>In Europe, houses are cheaper!>The FTSE is underperforming!>My taxes are too high!There is never any mention of the fantastic benefits which come with life in the UK. The fantastic healthcare for minimal cost, the great education system available to everybody, the dynamic modern economy with many bustling sectors, and everything else.Taxes are higher than the USA but they are lower than most of Europe and we still enjoy fantastic public services whereas in America there are no public services or safety nets.Not to mention the things you cannot measure. Being able to walk the streets in safety without fear of gun violence and gangs. Enjoying the fantastic beautiful nature and gardens. Living in the historical majesty and balancing that with modern cosmopolitan qualities.The UK might not be the best place to become rich but nobody is poor here and it is very easy to enjoy life if you have goals beyond the number in your bank account.
>>62481958the problem is that its being filled with immigrants who are living off tax payers moneythats the gist of why everyone is so pissed off here
>>62481973So just right wing racebaiting?No, I think it runs deeper than that. Most people have not personally had negative experiences with migrants, and reading the Daily Mail does not count.I am trying to angle from a financial perspective too. People talk about the UK like it is a poor country but it is one of the richest countries on the planet. I think perhaps they are just spoiled and do not know what poor countries are really like. I blame social media.
>>62481958>fantastic healthcare for minimal costmy nan lived in birmingham and she came down with leukaemia and was gone within a couple of months. She never even got to see a doctor because the muslim immigrants were getting seen first. if i had something to lose i wouldnt even dare post this for fear of legal reprimand.
>>62481958Wet cold concrete paki infested hellhole and the only beautiful thing (relic architecture) is in disrepair and covered in graffiti
>>62481994I am sorry to hear that but consider that the hospital was prioritising people with better chances and who needed help more.
>>62481958The healthcare is fucking terrible actually, it's basically a big queue where they hope you give up or die before they give you any treatment
>>62481986Bro has never had to work with pakis
>>62481986Didnt it recently make news as its as poor as the poorest US state (Mississippi)
>>62482001na mate i think brits who have paid taxes their entire lives ought to get treated before migrants.
>>62482009Police are on their way
>>62481986Yeah the UK definitely isnt poor, but its bankrupting itself. Especially with the refusal to drill and accumulate the assets we have underground, we have fucking shit tons of oil but we wont drill we just buy it from other countries and anything we do drill we sell it to get processed in another country then we buy it back, fucking insanity. Norway know what they are doing in regards to oil and gas
>>62482008GDP is not a very good metric for this. There are lots of things which complicate the issue.You cannot directly compare life in a quiet quaint English village to a tropical American suburb where you need to drive hours to even buy groceries and rely on AC to cool your wooden house on the basis of... how much money companies are making?I know where I would rather live.
>>62481958>The fantastic healthcare for minimal cost, the great education system available to everybody, the dynamic modern economy with many bustling sectors, and everything else>Not to mention the things you cannot measure. Being able to walk the streets in safety without fear of gun violence and gangs. I dont know if this is bait or genuine.
>>62482033Assume bait, based on the other comments
>>62482033Because you and I think most of the naysayers, have never actually been to the UK, have you?
>>62481986Go back (to reddit)
>>62481986>racebaitingMy negro, indigenous British births fall below 50% next year. Pull yourself out of the Marxist stupor.
>You should be okay becoming a minority in your own country because... racism or somethingPeople like OP actually think like this
>>62481958Have you ever thought that maybe its because it sucksHave you ever thought that you were getting fed lies by your government who want you to not flee your backwards, devolving country for a better life?
>>62482113Ive talked with multiple brits and part of the reason why their country is dying is they genuinely believe it.
>>62482131It's incontrovertible - on the current trajectory Brits will be a minority by 2055. From 90% British to a minority in less than one lifetime.
>>62481958Blatant gov shill post lmao
>>62481994Yep it is shit and people die all the time due to strained past breaking care. Even this evening I was talking about a close relation who died at 36 because they missed years worth of opportunities to catch his cancer including straight up losing a biopsy and rebooking another 4 months later by which point he suffered pathological spinal fractures during the attempt to get the second.
>>62481958Are the sandwhich meal deals that good
>>62482141Actually writing this shit gets me so mad/upset. If we had been in basically any other first world nation he would still be here. But the UK set itself on a death spiral where the dark eyes brown golems of the world come for free money, healthcare and rape. Meanwhile all our services suffer, we get paid fuck all as the economy collapses and then the gov takes half of that again. Im so fucking done with this shit.
>>62481958Wages are ass and the standard of living is far far lower. Just take a look at British houses and it's easy to see them lacking the basics Americans enjoy. They'll be tiny, dingy places with low ceilings and no AC, tiny ass fridges, no ice machines, no BBQs, shitty dishwashers, no dedicated laundry room, shitty to basically nonfunctional dryer, no garbage disposal, etc etc. Even then all the shit will be more expensive than the US.>Muh healthcareYeah ok but ignoring all the American megafats and retards how much do you think it costs?>the great education system available to everybodyNo one gives a shit about anything other than Oxford and Cambridge and even then it's marginal>The UK might not be the best place to become rich but nobody is poor here and it is very easy to enjoy life if you have goals beyond the number in your bank account.Wowow! Mediocre poorfaggotty! What a life!
Uk people are degenerate and they look for scapegoats to distract them from the fact that they are degenerates
>>62481958The US is in decline because we decided to value personal freedom over responsibilities such as education, accepting help, helping others, getting out of the way if you're stupid.since we can't infringe on the rights of stupid people and insist on letting them run the country we're dropping fast. However those same stupid people are completely convinced the US is the best place ever. Mostly because they've never been anywhere else and aren't smart enough or humble enough to accept how other people do better at lots of things.so yeah, idiots that are super proud of themselves. We let them vote when we should be locking them in a dark factory making toothbrushes or something.
Everyone I know over there is complaining about riding the tube with no AC right now lol
>>62482359Thanks chatgpt. Love your work btw. Very smart ai.
>>62482157There is more to life than consumerism.
>>62481958>uk thought police goes on 4chan >tries to shed good light on their country>currently driving to arrest uk posters who disagreed or mentioned word *pakis*
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>>62481958This prison island is hell on earth, believe me.
>>62482113>about £19000 negative from other races>only £1.4k positive from whiteswhere does the remaining ~£17500 come from?
>>62482992how long until this gets demolished to build a more inclusive future for the next generation of quintessentially british immigrants
>>62481958it's a woke version of north korea that's rapidly turning into the third world. in a few decades, actual brits living there will be a persecuted minority, like in south africa, you stupid re-dditor.
>>62482359>Mostly because they've never been anywhere elseYour guided tour down the one nice street in Paris or London doesn't reflect living conditions in those societies for the workers.
>>62481958its leftist socialism taken to an extreme and a warning to every other western country in the world>taxes cranked so high you actually make LESS money by working harder>totalitarian thought control police state>an economy that has been in freefall since the 70's>mass immigration from brown countries and ethnic replacement forced by police state>healthcare and welfare systems at their breaking point
>>62483304I often wonder what it must be like, seething about niggers and kikes 24/7, spending your every waking moment obsessing over white genocide and BLACKED porn... What a miserable existence it must be.
Mockery coming from Americans and Canadians are justified because those countries still offer much better living standards for middle and working class people and a higher level of personal liberties, although Canada is obviously on a downward trend. Europeans (except for Switzerland and Norway) can't say shit about us. I don't care what cope statistics they pull out of their arses. Eurostat is fake and gay. I've lived in Europe and Britain is a capitalist paradise compared to them. That's why in the days of free movement it was Eurofaggots moving here and not the other way around. They get taxed to shit. Most EU countries don't have a tax free personal allowance. Most of them don't even have anything similar to a stock and shares ISA. A shocking number of them have CGT on unrealised gains. Europoors can't even withdraw a tax free lump sum from their retirement pots and they all have regulations forcing providers to invest in local businesses so when a French pays into his private pension pot which by the way, most people don't even have one since they have very little left to invest after their insane income tax levels, he won't be getting S&P500 level returns, his money will go straight into Louis Vuitton stocks or something gay like that. They will talk shit about our economy's over reliance on the financial sector while ignoring the fact a dozen European countries still rely on tourism. Fucking tourism, like some Caribbean shithole. And the way their "common market" works leads to some pretty wild and grossly inaccurate numbers that inflate their income levels. Every book sold by Amazon in the EU is officially sold by Luxembourg. Most tech companies are based in Ireland which gives them a hilarious $140k GDP per capita. Anyone who's been to Dublin can tell they're much poorer than that. Their wealthiest city looks like a gentrified Sheffield and we're supposed to believe they're the 3rd wealthiest people on the planet.
UK was cool 2500 years ago.
>>62483373Look! He's trying to make out that England isn't a sick, cringeworthy country for the mentally retarded!
>>62481958UK used to be a S tier zone, now it's more like an A- or a B+ zone. I'm from Eastern Europe and if I moved to UK it 100% wouldn't be worth it economically, would most likely be a downgrade in living conditions.So Eastern Europe living conditions with mass migrants on top.I'm a retard on this topic but my guess is that there has been fuck all investments in the UK since 1980s, because the big capital had a preference for asian and african regions for both ideological and profit reasons. No investments + exclusively extractory business practices for ~40 years will bring such results. So economically UK is like an old, neglected region that stagnated so hard that even Eastern Europe (that was rekt by 50 years of communism) is becoming a better place to live. Certainly a much better place to settle down and start a family.Culturally it's a sad joke, a parody of its former self.It's not even worth it to visit UK for a few years to accumulate savings, because it offers you no such prospects. UK has literally nothing to offer to Europeans. And most bongs would be better off somewhere else. It's in a very weird position right now, and degrading rapidly.
>>62481958>dynamic modern economy404 not found>Being able to walk the streets in safety without fear of gun violence and gangsOh ok this is a parody post>if you have goals beyond the number in your bank account.Other words for: If you don't mind being poor and never making it
Ireland is better in every possible way. Brits are a miserable bunch.
>>62483373>>62483373Quick comparison.UK:In my sector I should be able to land a 90 000 £ / year job in the UK. That's about 5200 £ per month after taxes. For my family the living expenses (rent, bills, council tax, food, everyday expenses) would total to about ~4200 £ a month, so would be able to live reasonably comfortably and save 1000 £ a month.Eastern Europe:In Eastern Europe I can land a 5000 £ / month job, 4000 £ after taxes. Same expenses around here would cost around 2000 £ a month. So I can save twice as much as in the UK.Now let's compare it after 5, 10 and 15 years of savings with +8% per year.UK: 5/10/15 - 73k / 182 / 346 £EE: 5/10/15 - 146k / 365k / 692k £UK is a huge downgrade from Eastern Europe. And that's regardless of the old, failing infrastructure and mass migration.
>>62481958You think being exposed to sunlight, living in a house and having white teeth is so abnormal you made a meme about and called them deanos.
>>62484139"Eastern Europe" goes from Poland all the way to fucking Albania so stop being an obtuse nigger (I notice every single one of you are when bashing the UK) and specify what country you're talking about. Then we can have a look at 1- How many jobs are there paying the equivalent to £5,000/month. This is very easy to estimate when you use local firms CEO salaries as benchmark, which are generally publicly available in listed companies. 2- The actual tax brackets of the country you're talking about (there's no "Eastern European" income tax) 3- How much CGT you'd be paying on those savings. I think you meant investment because 8% return on savings would only happen in a country raped by very high inflation. It would be zero in the UK btw as £1,000/month would keep you well below the ISA allowance.
>>62484139>should be able to land...er so when do you graduate
>>62484139£1000 disposable income a month in the UK? pfft i have double that in taipei. UKers are getting raped
>>62484259I'm using real numbers, but won't name the specific country.>1- How many jobs are there paying the equivalent to £5,000/month.I don't see how that's relevant. You're either a skilled worker making close to that, or you're not. But yeah you can hand wave away examples of salaries for skilled labor or services and exclusively focus on minimum wage workers, if that helps you to make UK look better.The point is - UK is not an attractive destination for skilled workers. The after living expenses net salary is not even competitive to Eastern Europe. It's an attractive destination for unskilled migrants from Somalia or Pakistan.>2- The actual tax brackets of the country you're talking about (there's no "Eastern European" income tax)After-tax amount from this example was already specified.>3- How much CGT you'd be paying on those savingsDepends on specific country, but every country has some loopholes and various conditions to delay or lower the CGT.
>>62484290UK has extremely high costs of living, renting / mortgage costs being the number 1 biggest expense.Their "salary after living expenses", which is the only metric I look at personally, is very low for skilled workers.
>>62484139>In Eastern Europe I can land a 5000 £ / month job, 4000 £ after taxesAre you code monkey? Do you understand that your time is over? AI is eating you job.
>>62484456No. Instead of coping and seething you could learn a skill.
>>62483307>in a few decadesAnon, they aren't even allowed to fly their own colors over their own soil in many municipalities because it might make foreigners nervous. That day is already here>>62482033Look at their very first reply, anonIf it isn't bait, that thing is beyond the mental capacity for help
>>62484468I was a software engineer in eastern europe. I also have CS masters degree.But I was replaced by AI in march this year. Now I'm unemployed and live with my mom.
>>62484405yeah. im talkinga bout disposable income. by your calculations UK gets lower disposable income IN REAL TERMS. ya little paki fag
>>62483981>because it offers you no such prospectsThere's some americal AI companies like Anthropic that will pay you shitloads of money. But it's quite rare and it's very difficult to get a job at these companies.Typical british salary in tech industry in somewhat 50-70k £ which is so small given you can earn such a salary in Berilin which is way much cheaper and safe and white than london.
>>62483981The UK is still a S tier "zone" (You mean a country right). Football is coming home I'm going to the pub in an hour and I'm going to live it up with the lads. You can't put a price on that. Not even sure if I would rather be at the match because it's in fucking america.
>>62481958Because its an Anglo country and its being filled with nigger africans and muslims to the point where the native population is being outbread by muslims and the most popular child name in England is Muhammed. Because of Jewish manufactured open boarders, Soon those niggers and muslims will be the majority and start to persecute the christians across europe and have the nuclear codes. Jews are the rapists of the west and they rape it with their open border policies and other degeneracies that they spread openly.
>>62484567You're describing something that's present literally everywhere.
>>62484578Don't see your shithole bringing it home. There aren't pubs like British pubs anywhere else on earth.
>>62484139>Imagining wage slaving for FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARS and not even having a million dollars lmao
>>62484574Mohammed is going to attack you when you leave the pub, and you’ll be convicted of inciting racial hatred and thrown in jail because he’ll claim you were the one responsible. Besides, if football is your last resort for an argument, you’re literally a country on the same level as Brazil...
>>62484494>>62484456Code monkeys make way more than that, closer to 9k £ / month before taxes
>>62482008And the Chiyoda district was worth more than the entirety of the USA at some point.Using stupid metrics leads to stupid shits.
>>62484405This is underappreciated. People all know that for comparative jobs the UK pays 2/3rds US salaries but they don't factor in the WAY higher cost of living in the UK as well.For example house prices on a national average are 4x US prices per sq ft. Retail items usually have straight up price parity US to GBP. Our fuel is nearly double the cost.Let alone a smaller salary, you'd need UK salaries to be double US ones to get a somewhat equal QoL.
>>62483981>now it's more like an A- or a B+ zonelol what are your standards? it's d-tier at most. some african countries are probably better places to live.
>>62482043I live here mate
>>62484591How are the sandwhich meal deals mate
>>62484815Maybe in Amazon, Google and other american companies or HFT trading firms.Typical british software company pays 60-75k £ / year for a senior SWE. And this is in London.
>>62481986This article is applicable not only to Paris, but Europe as a whole.
>>62485172Are americans really proud that they commit crimes like immigrants? At least the problem here is only the fresh arrivals you have rednecks shooting each other.
>>62481958One good thing about the UK is how flexible ISAs are, and how, if you have a biz, you can pay fairly low amount of tax. If you're PAYE, the UK is rough.
>>62485475>if I'm just egregiously disingenuous and dishonest, surely that will change somebody's mind!Go glow somewhere else
>>62481986You brits are so utterly cattle brained you're not even worth saving anymore. Yeah dude you're actually a global superpower since you're India 2.0 at this point and as everyone knows India superpower 2030 saar trust. Go fuck yourself. I actually hope your country melts into an acultured amalgam before it implodes and disappears from the face of this world.
>>62482009How dare you post racist comment ! Big Brother's enforcers are on their way.
>>62482110yeah think this is what pisses people off the most, like the pure SCALE.. if we roll back the clock no one would mind maybe even a number like 10,000 (thats still ALOT of people) but manageable.. whereas obviously having 500k a year is stupidly outrageous thats a whole city every yearand lefties like "omg thats racist u have to equally accommodate for the 7 billion other people in the world" no mr leftie lets be honest if this was about an amazon tribe or even GAZA population you would NOT agree letting 500,000 white people into their population for mur rights
>>62486257they would call that COLONIALISM
Part of the reason is that you voted for brexit without really knowing what that entailed and then you reaped the consequences of more bureaucracy and red tape. Makes you look kind of foolish
>>62486459you have no idea what youre talking about
>>62485922The Royal Navy is the third strongest navy on the planet. The UK is a superpower we just don't play team america and bomb the middle east for sport.
>>62481958We wuz kangs!We wuz empyres n shieeet!We brown muzlem now
>>62481958Brexit fucked everything up
>>62487523You voted for this
