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Yes!! Let's get back to talking about actual idols...So Aurucle and Nocturna released music the other day, how do y'all feel about it?
>>10964966the kpop redditor will spam and derail the thread eventually>Aurucleanother disappointing release. they haven't recovered since the lineup change.
>>10964966I think safe inside is really cute. But I get the vibe theyre more focused on their maid gig than idol stuff anymore
>>10964966the photograph they chose for the cover art of the single made me think it was gonna be goth or dark. not a hyperpop idol fusion. it's not bad. it's quirky and enjoyable if you like gen z music, but their branding confuses me. if they were more intentional, their work would tie together more. keira really was the creative and conceptual powerhouse of the original trio.
>>10964966Gotta agree with the branding and focusing on maid stuff for Auracle.Nocturna’s song is pretty okay for a first venture but I expected something more gothic from their release too.
Aden is on indefinite hiatus the community is healing
>>10964959OP, I hope you're practicing the humiliation ritual idol fan dance
mspaint palette is such a butthurt and corny person for all this complaining about her event coming up flopping terribly. no artistic identity and bad attitude its a no brainer nobody wants to show up. shes like 30 with 2015 self deprecating "humor" that nobody laughs at or finds endearing, and her theater kid style of singing is awful to listen to. she doesn't even have any interest in idols past love live, her and many others only want to take advantage of the idol scope and community to promote their horrible music.
>>10964971Kpop redditor kristin bleidd
>>10965304I assumed ticket sales would be mid given it's mspaint palette but surely they can't be that bad
>>10965304where has she been complaining about her event?
https://x.com/planckstars/status/2000055537585803475my jaw hit the floor when i saw this just now. keep watching. obviously this probably happened awhile ago, so was this talked about? honestly, very bold and respect worthy. the competition was too insane for a gaijin to pass, they ended up just picking insiders, but just showing up had potential.
>>10965496*wait nvm it looks like they're still recruiting and their debut wasn't a final lineup. so maybe this is still active and ongoing? wow good luck then.
Just listened back to some recordings from US Idol Fes — Martha’s singing really impressed me. Her vocal ability is far stronger than most, and she deserves a wider audience.
>>10965634If people wanted to see a hambeast with good vocals they would just go to a musical theater.
>>10965634To bad she’s insufferable. Talking to her at USIF was awful.
Someone please tell me when paida finally increases her physical endurance and doesn't sound out of breath the entire performance
How is Holmat/AWA? Anybody there? Any notable comments?
>>10965777considering the state of the thread I’m going to assume no
>>10965789AWA was okay
AWA had too many cosplay dance cover groups
>>10965846It’s because all the gossiping bitches are on the West Coast.
I didn't like Holmat.
>>10965851I figured it was mostly the dmv and jersey idols but you might be right
>>10965849>convention>too many cosplay dance groupsyeah no shit what'd you expect
the holmat idolfest absolutely screwed Sally Amaki over. they cut to the holmat logo instead of the idolfest one after paida finished performing. and half the audience left before she went on
>>10965851Didn’t they have like 2-3 idols from the west coast there?
Anybody know anything about Eutopianstar? She was at Holtmat, I thought her vocals and stage presence was really good.
>>10965891For a kid she’s pretty impressive…She’s a good singer but doesn’t dance much. Gives me theater kid rather than idol energy though which I don’t love
>when you hear ai scream performed by an idol for the 76th time
I was at AWA:Crowd felt way smaller than last year, expected with Holmat overlap. Was a bit disappointing but energy was still good. At least for the people that actually performed well IMO Happy to see more original idols who sang rather than just did cosplay and danced. I’m noticing more and more shows are moving to this. Think it’s just getting more popularAny favorite acts from AWA, any bust ?
>>10965911Why don’t you share your opinions with the class, random awa audience member?
>>10965911Agree with this, found the crowd size really disappointing and the event had too many acts so it thinned out even more as the show went on.Bunnie and Moe Age were my favorites but many of the acts were very good. Only a few cosplay acts and they were quality. Jelly Jelly, Devilish Fangtashia, and Flare were the less strong acts but all were enjoyable in their own ways and Flare did a good job hosting.The game room stage was garbage. Sound was awful and way too many cosplay acts. The maid showcase was probably the best in terms of crowd size and quality. I enjoyed the Comet Stage but it felt long.
Ri.vals: cosplay group, mid dancers, didn’t pay attention.TNT-K: funny skit, great dancers, so it felt like it fit.Devilish Fangtasia: that entire group needs to look happier on stage. Everyone had major RBF for the majority of the performance. Their concept is so cute, but I was so distracted by how bad of a time everyone looked like they were having. Rushing in off stage between songs. Parts of costumes flying off or missing after coming on backstage. If you want to do that, great!!! Actually practice it next time on the size of stage you’re going to be on. It was just a little sloppy and I think if they cleaned up, they could be a way stronger group.Chiri Girls: very solid performance, not much to say. The Happy Birthday wish at the end of the set was cute, though it felt a little bit forced crying. Nonetheless, very happy to see them.Jelly jelly: sing songs in your range. They would be a much better performer. People notice when you switch keys because you aren’t capable of singing in a specific range.Kuro: I’ve never seen her before outside of her previous group, didn’t know she could sing. For a first-time original idol live singing and dancing, I loved it. She’s in Sweet Supernova. I think the group is dead, been seeing old members start doing more solo stuff. I think Bunnie used to be in the group. Prob internal issues like every other dead group. Happy to see members doing their own thing though. Those two I remember specifically from past Holmat performance, and they were the strongest dancers in their cosplay dance group.
Mage Mimi: her costume was stunning, couldn’t take my eyes off it. She doesn’t need to belt when singing. I don’t feel like it suits her tone or just type of performance style.X-pressions: they took entirely too long to start. I could even see on the side into the back staff running around trying to get them to hurry up. They don’t need to use props ever again or get better. Other than that, cosplay dance group, nothing more to say.Bunnie : I’m starting to see her more in idol shows. One of my favorites out of the acts. Think if she starts to take this more seriously, I can see her doing a lot more. Powerful voice but just sang anime covers. I really do want to see what she does next though.Hamu cotton: was really interested to see her live for the first time given what had been said about her here. Her set was really fun, but she isn’t the strongest singer. Way better dancer, but very, very cute.Moeage: best part of the entire show. They are genuine pros when it comes to performing.Phoebe: main crowd showed up for her at the start of the show. Could tell once she performed a lot of people left. Her quality gets better and better every time I see her live. Typical performance from her, not much more to say.Meet and greet needed to be longer or move moeage and phoebe to another location.
>>10965902they sucked too lol
>>10965922Mage was not good.I agree that Moeage was the best.
>>10965926Yeah tba you are right I think I was tryna be lil on the nicer side and she was an act that didn’t really stand out to me at all and at the end of a really long idol fest Best part of the performance was the costume.
>>10965920Ri.vals did better at the game room stage.
i thought mage was one of the better acts.>hamu>moe age>phoebeit really says a lot when most of the best acts are from the west coast
>>10965922and mimi is back. if she can do live performances, why is reso dead? it's the best thing she'll or the other members will ever do. pengy has a shot of proving me wrong but definitely not any other previous member
>>10965953yearning for resoluscia when it's about to be 2026 is crazy, man. most of their songs sucked, and now mimi and asteroid music team are fucking up vtuber music too.
since this was done for awa I’ll do it for holmatHajimari START : aiscream for the 10millionth time, didn’t wear makeup on stage, look like 12 year olds, no stage presence what’s so ever, crowd was hyped by for sure not by them and more so for the song Auracle : Upon release i personally didn’t like either song and wasn’t going to pay much attention however Safe Inside live was very fun and small bits of the crowd were doing the fan chant, also have to acknowledge their vocals were pretty stable throughout Varuhara : cosplay group no idea what they did but their background for the set was well done Dreaming Kumas: cosplay group and I’ve seen them multiple times, I gotta say for what it’s worth they are always very put together and seem genuine in doing if for the love of the characters/media and not because idoling is the “hot new thing”Eutopian Star: incredible vocals for a child, absolutely no dance skill and small stage presence, there is potential here Solaris: the outfits for their set were absolutely horrendous ILLIXCITE: did okay at best, personally I’ve never been wowed by what they put out but they seem to have fun on the stage Chem X : this group confused me, was this not a kpop dance team? I recognize their music was not kpop but the entire set and group read as kpop cover teamNocturna: for the original acts aside from the guest performers I think they were very fun and the best this year, you can tell they are still new and had a few hiccups on stage but everything from the song cover choice, their synchronization, costumes, concept and even their original song were done well I consider myself a fan Mikan Pop: absolutely nothing burger cosplay group PAiDA: first time seeing her live and it was good not the greatest since my expectations were so high given her so to say status but the energy in the crowd was good, I like the song choices and while she was a touch breathy it didn’t take to much away
>>10965968hajimari start was so bad it was really funny seeing them get a loud crowd but it being only for the song cause god damn they brought absolutely nothing to the stage.
>>10965968why are florida cons so set on having their events consist of 80% cosplay groups? and not even good ones at that? it's not 2016 anymore guys...i bet there were original idols who applied and didn't get in because they keep having the same cosplay groups every single year and don't have room to take a "risk" with solo idols or non cosplay groups, extremely frustrating compared to other events like AWA. i'd rather see a bad idol trying to sing than a bunch of cosplay groups doing dance covers only from series that i don't give a shit about
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>>10965977unlike la or ny, hardly anyone comes out specifically for idol events and because of that the people heading those events usually pick their friends over some random autist that they can't be sure will show up.
lol funny how in earlier threads no one wanted to talk about moe age because "maids arent idols" but now they are supposedly best in show and the maid showcase was the best qualityhow do we know this random awa audience member isnt some asayoru shill
>>10965977At least when cosidols perform they sometimes play good songs. I can close my eyes and take a nap or something...When a bad idol performs they butcher good songs, play garbage boring originals and ruin ears
>>10966008ah yes the imaginary maid idol shill, coming here to shill to the most mental case idols instead of just posting on their instagram or twitter. maybe it's because LA is just filled with low functioning autists and an atlanta anime convention just has casuals that can accurately identify that professional maid idols are... professional without getting triggered.
Don't y'all have anything better to be doing on Christmas than posting on 4chan
>>10966012clearly you don't
>>10966008NTA Maids arent idols, but there are some maids that are idols and Moe Age is a maid based idol group.Maid Showcase had a big audience and had better sound than the smaller idol stage.Comet stage had too many dancing cosplayers.Idol shows should just straight up cut out dancing cosplayers or keep it to a minimum.
Wotagay had a few workshops and a few people on stage.Wotagay belongs on the pit and not on stage.There are two people that i blame, Ashes and Peoni. Ashes being straight up a blight to the idol scene favoring her friends over actual talent and Peoni for shilling wotagays to be on stage
>>10966018pls someone post some footage of the wotagays, I love me some good humiliation ritual
>>10966018>>10966019Imagine coming here and being this bitter about anything on Christmas of all days. Get a life kpop redditor
Did anyone have a lovely Christmas?
>>10966024I just love cringe content
>Biggest wotagay shiler stands in the back with her arms crossed while everyone else popping offhttps://x.com/MidnightAerie/status/2004271019973104027color me surprised
>>10966018>>10966019>>10966040Genuinely curious as to the vendetta y'all have towards wota/. Is there a particular reason beyond "they're on stage and prominent sometimes," or what?
>>10966045wotagei doesn't belong on stage in idol events. also the wotas don't give a shit about the idols, especially groups like aniwaza, or they only give a shit about vtubers or people like phoebe or pengy that also do the vtuber thing. the whole purpose of wotagei/call&mix was to support idols but now it's just an attention seeking mechanism. some of these events i see more "fancams" of the fans than the actual idols
>>10966045it's a male thing, like when a dude wears pink everyone will laugh at him, call him a faggot and probably get phisically bullied too, same thing
>>10966050Okay so it's clear that you don't know these guys at all. They support Phoebe and Pengy because they're two of the most consistent performers in the community. They also support "actual" idols like Alex Pinku and Jenni Bon regularly and I know these guys have poured a ton of money into the kaigai idol community. >wotagei/call&mix is to support idols!!!! not an attention seeking mechanism!!!!!!All fan activities are attention-seeking and intended to be signifiers to other fans. You don't make itabags covered in your oshi's merch just because you love them, you do it because it sets you apart and makes you look and feel more "dedicated." I need the lot of you to be a little more introspective and not immediately tear these guys down for being very visible and dedicated fans of this scene when they've been here for years. Are you, perhaps, mad they get attention from idols, and you don't?
>>10966050>>10966051“I hate popular thing and I deserve more attention” is easier to type than this nonsense.
>>10966045its pretty simple, wotagay belongs in the pit and not on stage.The issue stems with these wota teams who give the illusion that wotas are there to support and cheer for the idols but in reality they are like post related >>10966040In a perfect Wotagay community they would be up on stage with vtubers singing on the screen.Wota teams aren't there to cheer or watch the idols, they are there to make a name for themselves and clout chase. >>10966050>PengyThey gave a shit about her because Ashes does some manager stuff for her
>>10966055Every time someone shares an unpopular opinion in here or doesn’t like wotagei you people always assume it’s because OP doesn’t know the people. Maybe they actually DO know those people and have interacted with them and that’s why they have those opinions…. Not every idol fan is an attention seeking whore either.. maybe some of them have ita bags to support idols not to get clout online
>>10966058>who give the illusion that wotas are there to support the people who don't support are other idols and the serial autists who make a big fuss online about trivial things and then scatter when buppan or birthdays are mentioned. get a job and put your money where your mouth is. until then organizers will keep pressing wotagei teams.
>>10966072>organizers will keep pressing wotagei teamsName one organization that isn't associated with ashes or peoni
>>10966055The problem with this comment is that these American wota weren't set to support Kaigai Idols specifically. From the start, their whole deal has been promoting Anison and J-Pop through their own stuff and this is coming from someone who is familiar with them. Kaigai Idols just happen to overlap with their goals because they’re some of the only ones in their local area covering that kind of music. At the end of the day, they’re J-Pop fans first, not necessarily Kaigai Idol fans. Sometimes, you can tell their calls and mixes aren't a means of support—it’s more because the song’s catchy or they just want an excuse to be yakkai. When they gachikoi a Kaigai idol, their chants aren't necessarily coming from genuine devotion but rather because it’s funny to them and matches the rhythm of the track.Besides poorly singing and hyping up a circle jerk with their friends, what else has AlexPinku and Jennibon done for the community? Also, what makes them “actual” idols (in quotation marks) and why bring them up? People with different opinions might just be raising real concerns, so saying folks are simply “mad” about the attention they get comes off as a defensive self-post. When you think about it, Kaigai Idols aren't as in-demand or as established as J-Pop idols, so there isn't anything to be jealous of.It’s not hard to cozy up to these people if you share the same interests, and unless you’re someone like Phoebe, not many of them are established in the music industry or doing this at a professional level. Beyond some online clout or scene cred, there isn't much to gain because it’s not sustainable, and hardly anyone’s making real money from it. The Kaigai Idols being praised here might just have funding from white privilege, family, romantic partners, or side jobs, not necessarily because they are under a label or more marketable on a wider scale.
>>10965870>Sally AmakiTHE Sally Amaki? Not someone with a similar name?
>>10966058>Wota teams aren't there to cheer or watch the idols, they are there to make a name for themselves and clout chase.this. fuck wotagay teams. get in the pit or fuck off.
>>10966055>You don't make itabags covered in your oshi's merch just because you love them, you do it because it sets you apart and makes you look and feel more "dedicated."Fuck off you absolute fake-ass bitch. You absolutely make itabags to support your husbando/waifu. No wonder you can't see eye-to-eye on the wota issue. You're just in this for attention and can't see anyone that is here to support the hobby and the idols as being genuine, because you, yourself, are not. You are the cancer killing the hobby.
>>10966124she was a guest at holmat yes, that one
>Wotagei teams realizing they can actually get paid to perform at concerts and events.>The name calls for aniwaza is so funny they really are idols now>wotagei has become so important in vtuber culture in NA (and vice versa)they arent there for actual t kaigai idols, they are there to make a name for themselves and eventually get up on stage with a vtuber singing behind them
>>10966123isn't that meme where she changes back and forth between disgust and acceptance? as an aside you people in the south really make every other american look worse. how you have the nerve to be bigoted while mostly looking like that is beyond me. and what about nocturna? aren't they from there?
>>10966130>they are there to make a name for themselves and eventually get up on stage with a vtuber singing behind themThat sounds like a reasonable goal. What's wrong with backup dancers for vtumor trash? At least someone is actually on stage
>>10966142Nothing wrong with that except it's disingenuous to fake support towards particular Kaigai Idols and the Kaigai Idol community if your priorities lie elsewhere. If you only care about wota culture and specific types of idols, make that your main focus instead of trying to be friendly with everyone else as a way to gain scene cred. Also, I believe wotagei is it's own artform that takes a certain amount of skill however I agree to a certain extent that they belong in the pit and uchishi definitely should not have the same stage or platform as an idol. Wotagei needs to be categorized in it's own separate kind of programming or slot. Their informative teaching panels or seperate demonstrations are fine.
