Bourbon > Rye > Scotch > Japanese > Irish

and I also like redbreast.

>>21545092
Is Japanese whiskey even distinct enough from Scotch to categorize it differently?

>>21545097
In my opinion it is.

It's a somewhat distinct take on scotch if that's how you wanna look at it.

Usually a lighter profile, even when peated.

>>21545100
Lighter than the Lowland Ladies?

>>21545122
I mean, there are obviously light profile scotches too, I'm just saying overall japanese single malts are lighter.

>>21545092
And Canadian belongs in the trash. I'd switch the Irish with the Japanese, Japanese is just blended which is always shit.

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>>21545132
>Japanese is just blended
Wut?

There are plenty of single malt japanese whiskies.

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What whiskey tastes the most like webm related?

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>>21545077
Asked at the ass end of the last thread, but does anyone have any similar graphics for recommendations? I also have a scotch one I found that I will post after.

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And the scotch one.

>>21545171
bong lad here
buffalo trace and jack daniels are around the same price here £20 for 70cl
makers mark and wild turkey £25-30
four roses is around £50

for price:quality ratio i like wild turkey best

the best i've tried was rowans creek which goes for around £60

>>21544496
a little indian shop along Hwy 30

>>21545369
how little are the indians?

>>21545175
>i smoke bandaids
really don't appreciate that. laphroaig is a very dignified whiskey

>>21545419
It's not really. It's mid tier, unbalanced, and only noteworthy because of it's excessive iodine flavour, like an extreme metal band that is only fun because of it's super fast drummer.

>>21545465
Cool/dry place with no light is gonna be the best, you know, like a cellar.

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>I use "unbalanced" to describe whiskey, implying it is a negative

>>21545459
Different anon but you should be able to get past the iodine and smell the smoked pork instead. I love Laphroaig 10, and eventually I'll try the more expensive expressions.

>>21545519
Some people wrap bottles in cling wrap in an attempt to reduce evaporation further, but I can't speak to how effective that is.

>>21545077
Scotch- Single malt, peated, cask strength, room temp, neat.
Throw everything else in the trash where it belongs.

>>21545289
So far Wild Turkey 101 is definitely a great value. Fantastic to sip! It seems like it's getting away from MSRP now though.

>>21545097
The grains and wood they use are different so you do end up getting different flavors. You end up getting more floral noses, some citrus like grapefruit sometimes, etc. Still gotta try more of them myself, but the Jap premium is high in east coast US.

>>21545385
about the size of the mexicans

>>21545077
Bourbon = Rye > Irish = scotch = Japanese

Tried Old Elk Cigar cut island blend bourbon the other day holy shit grab a bottle of it if you can, it’s special

I’m really into wheated bourbons even though I see a lot of hate on these boards for em. Picked up the new old Fitzgerald 7 I’m stoked to try some tonight

>>21546771
>even though I see a lot of hate on these boards for em
It's just one autistic retard who always sperges out when someone posts positively about them.

Same with the retard who always cries when you say you like a Diageo product.

>>21546771
How does the Old Elk compare to other cigar blends? I wouldn't mind trying Joseph Magnus but the price would have to drop significantly first.

>>21546771
>I’m really into wheated bourbons
How do you prevent a plug from chafing from long-term wear, anon? You seem like the right person to ask.

>>21545459
I too enjoy sipping Laphroaig while listening to mid 2000s Nile

also Laphroaig is one of the more complex and unique Islay single malts. I just wish they made a sub $200 bottle of 10ish year old cask strength that used 100% of their own floor maltings that came from 100% Islay barley.

the Port Ellen maltings make pretty boring scotch anymore and there are better options out there for the same money.

>>21545521
I taped up my collection when I used bug bombs a few years ago and by the time I opened some of them(over 8 months later) they had returned to the neck pours stage. I've bombed since and havent repeated the process and everything is fine, although I still covered my cabinets where they're stored.

>>21546771
shut up Old Elk shill

>>21546801
shut up Diageo shill

>>21546771
>Picked up the new old Fitzgerald 7 I’m stoked to try some tonight
I got a bottle recently, it's pretty good

svedka gave me rotgut and a terrible hangover. complete dog shit liquor, swedes are evil. it tastes like a hangover

>>21546811
It tastes really similar to the good bottles of midwinter nights dram which I wasn’t expecting. It’s like a dessert. The buzzards roost cigar blend is also good but perhaps a little less complex. I think the only other one I’ve had was an Elijah Craig which was just ok. I bought the old elk punch cut but haven’t opened that bottle yet but it doesn’t have rye in it like the island blend so I don’t anticipate I’ll like it as much


>>21546863
No u

>>21547005
>svedka
not whiskey

>>21547015
there is no spirit thread

>>21547005
Not whiskey, and it's made in America btw.
>>21547092
You can make a spirit thread.

>>21547389
>You can make a spirit thread.
nah im not that important

>>21545161
Peated Speyside

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>>21545175
>Dalmore
Color added, chill filtered trash

What regulations are there on bourbon production?
Any additives allowed like colours?

>>21546942
>>21546771

Old fitz 7 is great for 60$ it’s a banger I’m loving it 4 oz in. Sweet as hell but also punchy at 100 proof it’s got some great notes I’m getting crème brulee and butterscotch and toffee. Gonna keep looking out for this one if it’s really gonna be a shelfer

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High West bourbon was unremarkable I already forgot the taste, does their whiskey that costs twice as much also taste twice as good

>>21548014
Yes, it tastes twice as unremarkable

>>21548014
iirc they were MGP sourced while waiting on their own stuff to mature and now some the that stuff is on the market at a new high price. most bourbon on the market will max out around $50-$60 as far as quality:price ratio goes and there is a LOT of MGP stuff on the shelf already. sometimes you can get a deal on a single barrel, but more often than not they are too singular or otherwise meh. always try before you buy if you're able.

>>21546771
can legitimately say each line of this post made me cringe

>>21547469
this is what's necessary in order for a whiskey to be sold as "bourbon"
>produced in the US
>mashbill of at least 51% corn
>aged in new charred oak barrels
>at least 80 proof when bottled
>no minimum age, but if it's "straight" bourbon it has to be at least 2 years, and if it's less than 4 they have to disclose that in an age statement
>if there are additives like coloring it has to be labeled as "blended"

>>21547423
Would you put together a new graphic? It would be for the good of the whiskey threads and for educational purposes.

>>21548215
Good. Go drink something you enjoy, like cum, and then kill yourself.

>>21548741
While drinking cum is preferable to drinking a wheated bourbon, it is not something I enjoy.

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OGD 114 tasting like straight peanut butter tonight

I soaked my glasses in water and vinegar today because I noticed one that I like to use was making everything taste bitter

pic related will be empty tonight. it's been a good bottle. never had another scotch like it

>>21549889
>straight peanut butter
literally me every time I uncorked Old Tub
>vinegar
I only use really hot water(fill to rim and let sit for 5 mins) and wipe clean. no odor or streaks.
>unlike any other
heard it was kinda hot for the proof. still yet to try the 12 as its strangely not super available.

>>21545077
Scotch is best followed by Single Malt Japanese.
In terms of basic stills you have to go with Ardbeg. It's peated but very especially distilled. So it has the sweetness of a macallan but is spicy and peaty like a really top whisky.

>>21545175
You've mischaracterized Ardbeg because its filtration process means it's sweeter than that, and you don't even have Macallan on there proving why you don't understand Ardbeg.
Otherwise, good chart.

>>21549982
Yep! Ralfy shit on it in his review because it drinks a little hot, but if you read in the comments on his video apparently it's super popular in certain regions and a lot of them say to let it get below the 50% mark before you judge it. I found that to be true. It grew on me as I got through the bottle, but it did drink hot at first. It doesn't taste anything like you'd expect a 15 year single malt to taste, but I kind of like that about it

>>21545419
Sort of funny in a comedian sense, not inaccurate, but you're right in the end.

This chart lacks indie leather and tobacco and grandmother's house burning down flavors

>>21549997
>ralfy
that might've been the one. I can't remember if it's all ex-bourbon or not, but it seems like the 12 had the most sherried profile between the 12, 15, 18.
>It doesn't taste anything like you'd expect
as in not mature enough or not enough complexity or thin/light body?

is Horst Lüning a fraud?
I've never seen him give a bad review

>>21550169
Most 15 years i've had have been friendly, this is rough. It's complex enough but it's punchy, bright, and vibrant. Very in-your-face

>>21548741
wheatie melty

>>21549996
I didn't make the chart and am just a whiskey newbie. I am asking people to update graphics with their opinions or to make new ones. Price ones like the bourbon one, and the branching path type like the scotch one are both cool.

>>21549996
Macallan isn't on there because it's not worth buying.

>>21550235
Wouldn't say he's a fraud, his reviews are generally supposed to be neutral because at the end of the day he runs a business and has to sell the product he's receiving/reviewing. He's not gonna jeopardize his business although theres subtle hints of his actual feelings on certain bottles. I believe he's not fond of peated whisky and generally doesn't care for bourbon/american whiskey.

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>hfw Wee Beastie

What Scotch would you recommend to someone whose favorite is Laphroaig 10 year?
Willing to try non Isla scotches

>>21550235
I would argue that there are very few and far between "Bad" product. There are overpriced and overhyped but very few straight up "Bad"

>>21551160
do you want some unpeated maritime whiskies like bruichladdich, bunnahabhain, old pulteney? talisker 10 i'd say is similar enough to your tastes but also quite unique, or ledaig is kind of like talisker but better, but talisker 10 is a very interesting bottle in that it can taste different every time you taste it. or do you want something completely different? well, i'd say absolutely get a bottle of bunnahabhain if you haven't yet. or caol ila if you want something quite similar. never tried kilchoman but always hear great things about them - they say it's peated but more balanced than the other peated islays. ardbeg uigeadail might blow your mind if you've never had it. if you want something nice that you'll definitely like, laphroaig lore

glengoyne is a distillery that never gets mentioned but they put out some good stuff for whisky purists. easy drinking highland but unchillfiltered, above 40 abv, natural color

>>21551209
my disconnected speech might imply that talisker and ledaig are unpeated but they are peated
i drank too much last night

>>21545171
>>21545175
>Talisker sucks
>Talisker 10 for those who smoke cock
Accurate.

>mention talisker
>bots reply instantly
neat

>>21551242
Almost any Diageo product really, but you're not wrong.

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>everybody who says anything bad about Diageo® products is a bot and not a real human expressing a sincere opinion
>you can trust me because I am not being paid by Diageo® to post this and I am not replying to my own posts to build manufactured consensus

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>>21551267
My guy you've been doing the same shit for years now, god forbid I make fun of you for it.

>>21551161
>very few straight up bad
until you look at the special limited releases from Ardbeg from the past 5-6 years

>>21551267
AAH YESSIR I TOO AM A CONSUMER VERY GOOD SIR

>>21551209
>Ledaig
>caol ila
>kilchoman
>ardbeg
Great recs, listen to him

>>21551345
>special limited releases from Ardbeg from the past 5-6 years
They’re not any good? Or just overpriced?

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>everybody who says anything bad about Diageo® products is the same bogeyman
>there is only a single person on this website who says anything bad about Diageo® products because Diageo® products are actually great and nobody else has anything bad to say about them
>you can trust me because I am not being paid by Diageo® to post this

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AI Slop related, Bushmills Original

>>21551396
both are correct

talisker was my first scotch so it will always be my favorite

>>21545459
Pussy.

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bourbon or bust for me

>>21552067
based

>>21545175
Where does Jonny Walker double black sit on the peat scale? Was thinking of getting some to make super smoky bbq sauce with.

>>21552067
>80 proof on ice
Yep, definitely a bourbon sissy

>>21552067
Needs more ice and sugar

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>>21552232
>>21552266
anons pls, two shots of bourbon has the same amount of liquorhol as two shots of bourbon plus ice. I live in Sydney, it was 40ºC that day cut us some slack.

Also I don't find Blan'on's to be all that sweet. Yes, it is a little sweet, but not particularly salient

you'll niggas need some highballs in your life

oh no i can't taste le heckin ORANGE PEEL NOTE if i put water in my whisk()ey

YOURE MISSING OUT ON THE ORANGE PEEL NOTE

YOU GOTTA DRINK BARREL PROOF WHISKEY STRAIGHT EVERY DAY AND BURN A HOLE IN YOUR STOMACH AND THROAT

IF YOUR GUMS ARENT RECEDING YOURE NOT TASTING YOUR WHISK(EY) RIGHT

Wahhh MOMMY it’s heckin HOT OUT

I need ice cubes in my dwinkie poo in order to dwink it

Use my sippy cup too please mommy

Make sure you grab the baby bottle formula that says BLEND and EXTRA WATER ADDED mmmm numnums!!!

MOMMYYY WAHHH you didn’t FROST MY SIPPY CUP IN THE FREEZER!!!!

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>>21552320
>>21552338
you guys!

>>21552203
double the the black(disappointment), double the sugar, 404 peat not found.

>>21552472
So should I just get the Ardbeg 10?

four roses vs woodford reserve

ok four roses vs woodford reserve vs bullet

>>21552765
>>21552768
woodford never disappoints

>>21552768
Are we talking just the standard yellow label Four Roses? If so then Woodford Reserve but the FR Small Batch Select wins easy

>>21552759
if you've never had any Ardbeg before then that'd be the one I'd get

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Been sipping pic related.
Really great taste and an affordable price for a singe malt, but I would not recommend adding water to it, somehow it really ruins the taste.

Is peat and smoke just a cheat code that prevents the raw alcohol and really bitter flavors from spiking out of holes in the whiskey's taste profile?

I consistently find the smoky ones from decent to good, but non-smoky seem to more often hit amazing even though they also have more shitty ones too.

>>21553580
>I would not recommend adding water to it, somehow it really ruins the taste
How about that

>>21553642
high phenolic content can seem to reduce some of the volatile elements of young or rushed spirit

>>21553580
I've got 2 different bottles of the old 10 and a bottle of the new 18. been wanting to try the Quarter, Amarone, Port and Sherry Casks but they just went up to $80 after tax which is too rich.

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>>21553580
WOW diluting whiskey ruins it.
Whoda thunk it?

Got a bottle of bruichladdich classic laddie. Very salty and floral. Great drink.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/R_cy4CgYQYs

now i'm thirsty

>>21554321
Gay.

>>21554334
pleb

>>21554337
>let me take this delicate Japanese whiskey and make it four times more delicate and subtle by diluting the fuck out of it
>oh wow it's so wonderfully delicate just like my very non-virgin asshole I just love delicate things like ballet, flowers and receiving gentle, loving anal sex

>>21546811
I just looked up Old Elk Cigar - you're looking at £150 a bottle in the UK, so that counts out most of us.

I pair my talisker distiller's edition with desserts. it's not as good as the 10 year on its own but with desserts it's good

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>>21556125
these are the desserts

>mmm trashy ultra-processed slop
The Talisker shill, ladies and gents.

i'm also a benchmark shill
cause i just poured some benchmark full proof
i rinsed my cup first and there was still some water droplets in the bottom. hope it's not too bad

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>>21556379
you shouldn't even open the bottle if ambient humidity is more than 30%, nevermind pouring it into a cup practically FILLED with water. it's ruined, all ruined. not just what's in your cup but the whole bottle. I would say just use it as a cleaning product but it's probably too diluted at this stage.

>>21556381
Unironically this

>>21556125
>>21556150
sicko.

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"shes a good'n"

>>21552067
Blantons horsey tops work as figs in the bussy, no?

>>21555264
Poor fags get the rope

>>21556559
I, uh, I don't think this is english

>>21556566
He's asking if you can stick the horse cork in your asshole

>>21556563
shut up shill

>>21556589
Get a real job

>>21556589
Who is he shilling for?

He just said poorfags get the rope, he didn't say what you should buy.

You can't just accuse every single poster of being a shill

>>21556593
he's shilling for Big Rope™

Gents I’m 4 pours deep into this Russel’s reserve and I’m thinking it’s ok. Wish I just grabbed rare breed

>>21552270
>>21552768
>>21552765
>>21552769
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills woodford is so cloyingly sweet it’s a drain pour for me. If I wanted syrup I’d eat pancakes

>>21556593
>hit shill nerve
>the shill shrieks
shut up shillsberg

>>21556549
>rye
>114 proof
This anon is not a sissy.
Unless he adds water or ice. That would make him a sissy.

>Found Nikka Whiskey from the Barrel on sale for $50
Oh Baby

>>21557175
the last dozen or so times I've drank it I havent even used a glass

>>21557455
I jelly.

>>21556823
It's just retarded seeing you call anyone who likes whisky you don't as a shill.

I seriously doubt any ACTUAL shilling has ever occurred here, you're just bastardizing the term to try and make it seem like you're fighting against some globohomo megacorp when really you're just screaming "shill" at any random anon who happens to mention a whisky you deem as too commercialized or poor value.

>>21557607
shut up shill

"Experts" recommend letting your whisk(e)y rest in the glass before enjoying, to allow more flavors to emerge. Imagine calling yourself an expert and encouraging intentional dissipation of the alcohol. I skip the glass altogether for this reason, and I always finish my bottle the day I open it

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>>21557607
>I seriously doubt any ACTUAL shilling has ever occurred here
it's more likely than you think
but it's also funny to think that someone has taken this talisker shit so personally that they have a script to alert them any time it's mentioned so that they can countershill and say something negative
me? i think they probably had better cask selection before diageo got ahold of them, but i still like talisker 10
this distiller's edition "double matured in amoroso seasoned oak casks" hasn't been the best experience but it pairs exceptionally with sweets

>>21557804
Sure, but I could post a bottle of JW green with my cock rock hard next to it with a time stamp, and he'd still invent some schizo fantasy about how I'm clearly a paid diageo shill. Because obviously corporate shills take cock pics for 4chan. It's only common sense.

>he's replying to himself again

>>21557826
sorry for the alert, hope you weren't doing anything important

>>21557826
Is that really your only defense when multiple people start calling out your bullshit?

Someone posts whisky you don't like? Shill
Someone calls you out on that and others agree? Samefags

There is always something, you're never wrong and everyone posting whisky you don't like is always a shill. Typical.

>>21557804
>it's more likely than you think
Is it? What's more likely:
>multi-billion dollar corporation pays someone to advertise their product to a handful of retards on a Latvian upholstery forum by saying "poor fags get the rope"
or
>some sperg found out they can get "You"s by pretending to be the former

>five of the last six posts are the same shill

>>21557857
The whisky that guy was talking about isn't even from a megacorp distillery. Old elk had a yearly revenue of around $4-6m.

They recently got bought out by Middle West Spirits who (before buying old elk) had a yearly revenue of around $20-25M.

So again, you're railing against an imagined megacorp because you don't even know the whisky being mentioned but you assume it's megacorp whisky anyway and accuse anyone who talks about it as being a shill.

You're just retarded.

>>21557873
Meant for >>21557864

>this thread
Shills are immunized against all dangers: one may call them scoundrels, parasites, swindlers, profiteers, it all runs off them like water off a raincoat. But call them shills and you will be astonished at how they recoil, how injured they become, how they suddenly shrink back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>21557911
More like people don't like being accused of shilling when they're just trying to discuss a particular whisky in a whisky thread.

Crazy concept.


Oh and for me? It's Talisker 10 year.

>I want to talk about this whiskey
post your pour then
>um only poorfags dont have this bottle already poorfag
shut up shill

>>21545132
>just blended which is always shit.
filtered

>>21557873
>Middle West Spirits
BASED
I love their pumpernickel rye almost as much as I love drinking Diageo whiskies out of my Glencairn™

Im giving this Tullamore Dew a try tonight. honestly a n ice smooth mild flavour. doesn't have that gross note that cheap irish whiskey can have, actually some body to it. I'd recommend it for sipping to any boozehound
Captcha DRYY8

why is it that the more niche a board and general thread is, the more it gets plagued by schizos?

>>21557857
>>some sperg found out they can get "You"s by pretending to be the former
>>>21557873 #
Can confirm I used to Talisker post to get a rise out the schizo

>>21558169
can confirm I’m a paid shill

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>>21558257
god, I wish I could get paid to trigger schizos.

>>21558278
Why did you post an image of a very dark background, anon?

i made eggnog with ardbeg last year and it's been sitting in the back of my fridge forgotten. just tasted some and the smoke has developed into a flavor like the cans of beef jerky chew

it's fukken fuego

>>21558119
Can you name a board and/or general that ISNT?

>>21558824
The eggnog didn’t spoil?

>>21558980
it can keep for years but i think ideally i should've shaken it up some from time to time to distribute the alcohol
tastes good though and my stomach isn't churning yet

>>21545289
>buffalo trace and jack daniels are around the same

Lucky dog— Buffalo's better for the price by miles.

>>21546853
>while listening to mid 2000s Nile

My Nilotic nigga

>>21559242
When ‘In Their Darkened Shrines’ dropped, I shit my pants and played that album on loop for the entire year

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time for a nice, refreshing highball
with this garbage and some topo chico

wow it tastes like shit

>>21560951
Add more water, ice, and sugar

>>21556616
I'd like to do a comparison of RR Single Barrel with Rare Breed. About the same price and heard some people say it's better than Rare Breed.

>>21561007
it's almost as if the quality of the whisk(e)y matters when making a cocktail

>>21561091
Cocktail?? That’s how I enjoy the delicious taste of the spirit on its own.

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>All the 1792s but small batch are allocated in my state
I WANT MY FUCKING SWEET WHEAT

>>21561255
Same here anon.

>I WANT MY FUCKING SWEET WHEAT
This is the gayest fucking thing ever said in /wg/.

>>21562432
Not even close

>>21561255
>>21561752
I sometimes forget how lucky I am to be near a major city and transportation hub. I'm an hour outside Chicago and I can find almost anything. The meme stuff is still stupidly priced but I'm now finding Weller SR for $40 and BT is plentiful for MSRP. Even EH Taylor sits on the shelves of my local grocery chain for weeks at a time for MSRP

>>21562916
Im ~30 minutes north of washington DC and while we get basically everything, most nicer whisky gets allocated.

Still readily available on those allocated days, but you actually have to show up and maybe wait in line for 30-60 minutes if you want something particularly rare.

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>>21545092
yitb (Yeah I'm Thinking Based)

>>21562916
Where outside Chicago? The stores around me are still selling SR for $100 and Blantons for $175.

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>tumblers
>ice
>Jack Daniels
>Johnnie Walker
>"it's so smooooooth"

Has anyone tried extremely high proof bourbon? There's an 18 year mgp bourbon at 140 proof available for me. Wondering if this is a meme or worth picking up.

The highest proof I've had was 132 proof and honestly it didn't taste that proofy, though it'll likely depend on the exact whisky in question how "hot" it tastes.

I personally prefer 95-100 but that's because I drink more Scotch than Bourbon. I do have a local distillery that makes a 108 proof Malted Whiskey that's pretty good and smooth though.

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>>21564607
jack daniels and johnnie walker? that stuff is for outlaws. if you want smooth you have to spring for the good stuff

>>21564643
hope this is bait. it's a holy grail tier bottle

>>21564922
Some people just don't like higher proof

>>21564922
Can you explain why it's good? Or is it just worth having because its unique?

>>21564926
It's "Hazmat whiskey" due to its high alcohol content, which makes it sought after, especially if it's older.


Good will depend on the exact whiskey in question and your personal tastes.

>>21564926
first of all, anyone who asks "is it a meme" is a fucking newfag thinking meme = gimmick. i can't stand little cunts who ask "is this a meme" implying that it's some silliness. memes are magic
mgp makes amazing whiskey and only a newfag would assume that sourced = bad. mgp has a reputable reputation
the fact that it's aged 18 years and is 140 proof is also fucking insane. you're not understanding the implications
no, i'm responding to bait. you got me. good one anon

>>21564934
I'm fine with mgp, I've never had hazmat before which is what I was trying to get info on
you should maybe focus more on my question in the first sentence of my post than my thoughts afterwards....sorry it triggered your candy ass

>>21564940
just leave it for someone who will appreciate it. I just told you it's a holy grail bottle

christ, can I just get an answer from non taters if its worth drinking or not

you never posted the price btw

>>21564945
Without knowing exactly what it is, no one can tell you that you fuckin retard.

Buy it and find out if you're not a tater.

>>21564951
>>21564945
Oh, and I say this as someone who has opened and drank two different $500+ bottles in the last year.

you are so retarded I am in physical pain right now

price is $145
when I'm asking if its worth drinking its because I've never had hazmat before
I don't know if something like that tends to be too far in one direction or not
but it sounds like what everyone is saying is its mostly worth it for the experience? if thats the case I'll order it

>>21564984
Hazmat can drink well under proof for what you'd expect, but it's generally still going to be pretty "hot" compared to most 80-100 proof stuff.

Just like all whiskey, it depends on the barrel.

>>21564984
well it would probably cost $600+ secondary so if that's any indication

I guess thats neat, but I don't buy or sell secondary or want to.

maybe I should mention that anyone in the US can also buy this btw

>>21565012
jesus christ nigger just tell us what it is and then we can tell you if it's any good

>>21565012
sure, link?

>>21565018
its the next monthly release for barrel king
https://barrelking.com

It's a monthly membership where you get a bottle a month and just pay $20 shipping

Here's the notes from my email:

>Batch #116 - HOOSIER DADDY- Proof 140.4
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>18 year Hazmat MGP American Light Whiskey
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>Tasting notes from distillery manager, Matt Bunch:
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>Nose - Surpisingly well composed considering the proof point and juice involved. As with American Light, I get the chocolate and butter as the dominant notes. However there is a powdered sugar that Im picking up as a new note and the oak notes which are very much needed in a pour like this are present and accounted for. As I sit with this one, I am honestly surprised that it begins to smell more like a bourbon and less like a Light Whiskey. After it's been in the glass for a few minutes, I honestly could not say with 100% certainty that it's an American Light without knowing it. I am finding myself hunting for the giveaway notes and they are doing such a marvelous job of keeping a great sipping bourbon profile. Brown sugar and red berry are appearing and I cannot say I have ever been able to catch red berry in an American before this.

>Palate - while there isnt any masking of proof here, it drinks more civilized than I would have thought. The Light Whiskey notes do have a little more dominance on the palate than the nose suggested. Butter and cocoa. But there's that red berry again. Maybe its just me but Americans aren't the most complex and deep. This one does do a better job of driving deeper. Caramel, Butter, Cocoa, Red Berry, Brown Sugar and Barrel Char would be my primary call outs for this.

>>21565032
>Finish - Again, far more civilized than you might think. It stays on your lips and its presence is known after the drink is long gone but it doesn't punish you at all. It has a fantastic balancing act down pat here. Nose, palate and finish are all in line. I think there is a stronger presence of the char notes late in the finish but this is a wicked pour - of course. If American Light is your jam - you already know what you're in for here, hahahaha.

>>21565032
>American Light Whiskey
well that explains the price.

>>21565032
>>21565036
>that writing

Pure cringe

>>21565032
>American Light Whiskey
If you're unaware, this means it was aged in uncharred or previously used barrels.

>>21565032
$125 monthly for a membership huh?
anyways it's not a bourbon, and it kind of "is a meme" but some people would be really into it because it is rare and kind of special
not as much barrel influence as a bourbon would be. definitely worth the price, but maybe not if factoring in your $125/mo membership

have a good one, also i think you may be autistic

>>21565047
so its not worth getting to drink?

>>21565053
Eh, it could still be worthwhile, but it's not some UBER holy grail whiskey as another anon said above, and it sure as shit wouldn't sell for $500+ on the 2ndary market.

I mean, it's old and hazmat, but it's also MGP mystery juice. I personally wouldn't spend that kind of money on a bottle unless it's from an established distillery that I have at least a little bit of familiarity with, but if you've got the $ then go for it.

>>21564643
>There's an 18 year mgp bourbon at 140 proof available for me
It aint bourbon >>21565032
>18 year Hazmat MGP American Light Whiskey
There is a reason they're not calling it bourbon, because legally it isn't

>>21565060
some of the language on their "About" section makes me a bit suspect: there's nothing about their aging process, it says that it's expertly "blended" (bourbon distillers typically use the term "batched;" legally a "blend" could include artificial flavors and coloring), and as >>21565047 pointed out, they also mention used barrels but it's a bit fuzzy as to whether that's just for finishing.

I've had about 7 of their releases and enjoyed all of them, but I'm just not sure on hazmat. I guess I'm still on the fence on ordering it since I don't want a bottle sitting in my cupboard for years that only has a couple shots poured out of it.

>>21565055
>but it's not some UBER holy grail whiskey as another anon said above, and it sure as shit wouldn't sell for $500+ on the 2ndary market.
debatable. it seems to be unicorn status and would fetch a high price to the right person. but anon is paying $125 a month for access to these (you could spend ~$100 a month at a local shop, receive whiskey for your money, and get similar perks making smalltalk with the owner)
140 proof at 18 years is insane unless they're pulling some fuckery as >>21565071 is saying

>>21565074
you can dilute it to your liking. to some people that's the point. it's kind of like if you bought cocaine and complained that it's too pure, kind of silly
since you're apparently wealthy, buy this
https://oldlimestone.com/
it's what a distiller would be diluting their bourbon with so you can have the best experience

>>21565088
>unless they're pulling some fuckery
I don't know that they are, they can basically do whatever the fuck they want with an "American light whiskey," but I'd be suspicious of any release of theirs that's sold as a "straight bourbon" based on that vague wording.

>>21565088
I think its actually 18 years, but not in the same location. Maybe they bought a 15 year old barrel and it sat in their storage for 3 years?

I've mainly just used distilled water but I'll check that out.

>>21565103
Sure, but even that has different aspects to consider.

Was it aged 15 years in someone else's used bourbon casks or 15 years in uncharred new casks?

Also I know there were several 17 year MGP American Light Whiskey barrels released in the last sevearl years, if they bought one of those and just aged it an extra year in a different cask of their choosing, then sure they've hit 18 years, but it likely isn't much different from the other 17 year products that've hit the market over the last few years.


All that being said, if you're already paying the monthly access price, i'd probably pick it up and give it a taste.

You can nitpick wording all day, but the facts don’t change: 18 years old, 140 proof, and legally has to be every drop at least 18. That’s unicorn-tier. Not everyone’s taste maybe, but it’s not ‘just juice.’ Hazmat at that age isn’t common, it’s peak.

- chatgpt premium

is there a a higher level than premium where chatgpt doesnt talk like a faggot

>>21565153
You need to tell it to not talk like a faggot BEFORE asking it a question

>>21565153
he's just keeping it short, authoritative, and dismissive of the cope

do you want him to sketch you a snappy one-liner reply that nails the “newfags nitpick, oldfags know it’s peak” vibe without sounding like you’re lecturing?

ok, thanks for the advice bros
I just want to enjoy drinking (light) whiskey*

enjoy :)

>>21545077
>Whiskey
yeah, no. bye.

>>21565277
anon, please stay. we'd love to engage in some dialog with you

no need to be so cold and gray about it

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>>21545077
Its been 4 years since I bought a bottle of this. Tastes like faux old whiskey, but in a good way. I always taste almond in woodford reserve and I enjoy it.

>>21554321
>>21554985
Highballs are an actual meme from Japan. There's no reason to take whiskey like that, I'm not even against things like taking strong bourbon and using it to mix up a hot toddy, but soda water absolutely kills the flavors of whiskey and seems to be this odd way of making into some kind of not-beer for Japs.

However, the fact that they came up with the legitimately fantastic idea of mixing white pepper with Talisker because of this basically justifies it all, it seriously enhances that whiskey and takes it from blandsville to being actually solid.

>>21566487
It’s not a jap invention, Churchill drank whiskey and soda in the mornings.

recc a canadian whisky that's like seagram's VO except good

>>21566487
maybe your palate is just not advanced like mine

Jameson, anything else is either overpriced or trash

Japanese or Scotch is palatable but i aint paying for the good ones

Bourbon is for children

>>21567536
Jap is a meme and Scotch has more reddit soy people drinking it thank Bourbon does.

>>21566862
I liked canadian club 9 and 12, haven't had them in 6-7 years tho.

>>21567563
>Scotch has more reddit soy people drinking it thank Bourbon does
just googled r/scotch and r/bourbon guess which one has more users
certainly not the fanbase full of buffalo trace cocksucking, waiting-in-line-at-liquor-store, reselling hype beast homosexuals
granted bourbon has good ol grug country boys and scotch has boomer npc “IT’S SMOOTH” guys but overwhelmingly it’s bourbontards shitting everything up

>>21567692
trvth nvke

>>21545385
About ye high...

>>21566550
Like gin and tonic it harkens back to the days of the Raj, British Malaya that sort of thing

>>21557804
In the off chance of any Diageo personnel in any capacity whatsoever reading this...
FUCK YOU FOR KILLING CAOL ILA 12! -ditto Cragganmore-

>>21559242
last 2 albums were absolute SHIT

>>21567980
No personnel, just Indian shills posting for 1 rupee per post.

>>21566323
But do you activate your Woodford?

Bourbonfags will fake a friendship with liquor store managers just for the possibility of buying some overpriced bottle.

>>21569241
clowns are stooges news @ 11

>>21569241
I'm a bourbonfag and I just go in on allocated days and buy whatever I want.

Just don't live in a shitty area where local stores can legally be jews.

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After sampling most of the mid-shelf scotch at my preferred boozemart, I ended up liking the Tullibardine 12 the most. Any recs on something even nicer in this direction?

>>21569317
>40% ABV
Into the trash it goes.
Into the trash you go.

>>21569631
B-b-b-b-bas-b-b-base-based-base-d-d-d-d-d-d

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I got a bottle of this for free and it tastes like shit. Burned my throat and left it feeling dry and scratchy for 3 days.

What are some good mixers for overpoof, high rye bill bourbon?

>>21570824
From a reddit whiskey fag
> If you’re not used to cask strength or higher-proof pours, this one will probably light you up. But for fans of the series, it’s another solid entry. It’s got all the Beam hallmarks: nutty, spicy, oaky, and bold. Not the most complex batch ever, but it doesn’t need to be. It delivers that raw, unfiltered whiskey experience that Booker’s is known for.
> Rating: 7/10
> Final Thoughts: Drink it neat if you like a punch, but a few drops of water or some time in the glass can help tame the heat and coax out more sweetness and complexity.

>>21570831
>a few drops of water or some time in the glass

I added some ice and it just tasted like cardboard water

>>21570836
I'm not personally a fan of booker's either

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>>21570824
Get a load of this homosexual/woman.

>>21571250
That's what a life of primarily 40% will do to you.

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What liquids should go into a Taylor Swift cocktail?

when someone acts like they're not that into a whiskey but it's "okay as a mixer" they're full of shit and talking from a place where they're projecting that they have finer tastes

jack daniels is good neat. it's also good for cocktails. it is not a 'one or the other' situation unless you're making a cocktail such that you literally cannot taste the whiskey, like a whiskey sour with lemon juice from concentrate. men make whiskey and coke with all whiskey and a splash of coke and the whiskey absolutely matters. jack daniels "is a good mixer" because it's a good whiskey

>>21571274
a petri dish of rejected sperm donations and WD-40

>>21571324
it's fine at best, Brown-Forman shill.

>it's fine at best, Brown-Forman shill.
>buy Diageo®

>>21571324
Vanilla extract tastes like shit on its own, but added in to a recipe it’s delicious.
Same with your garbage jack daniels. Would never drink it on its own, but added to a mixed drink makes it barely tolerable to chug down atleast because now there are other flavors to focus on aside from the trash diarrhea of jack daniels.
Why is this concept so difficult for your brain to grasp?

How many bottle kills (750ml) a month before you're considered an alchy

>>21571633
Honestly anything more than 2 in a month and i'd say you're an alcoholic.

I finish 2 per month but I usually end up sharing ~1/4-1/2 of it, so really closer to 1-1.5 bottles per month for me.

>>21565088
>>21565148
You're a fucking retard who doesn't know what light whiskey is, and apparently you got chatgpt to behave the same way. Congrats, actually impressive

>>21571690
the stuff might be amazing
you're forgetting that in his first post he called it bourbon before we milked information out of him for the following hours
keep up

>>21569173
How do I activate my Woodford?

>>21569241
I got offered Eagle Rare 10 from the back but I turned it down because I don't like it.

>>21571987
Cram it.

>>21571274
vodka cran stirred with 21 penises

>>21571542
but you're actually saying it's trash. that's different than someone saying "it's okay but to me it's a mixer". sure you're still in the college drinking phase where you're just trying not to taste alcohol at all so that you can get yourself to swallow it, but at least you're not trying to give the polite letdown of "it's a great mixer"

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this isn't great neat but i like it even less as a mixer so i just suffer through it neat and eventually it will be behind me

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this is delicious neat but i want to signal that i have fine tastes so i pretend that it's not the greatest of all time but i also acknowledge that it's one of the most popular whiskeys globally so i contend that it's "good as a mixer" but i don't specifically say any cocktail and why it performs well in it so i actually imply that it's meant to be drowned in cola to mask the flavor instead of complement it

>>21572157
>40% ABV
You should have expected it to suck.

>>21569241
I made friends with the store owner from Ankara because we both studied ancient history in college. I don't care about allocated but he does get me Laphroaig 10 year cask strength for $70

>>21572157
>weebsky

No surprise

>>21572176
>this is delicious neat
No

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alright I took your guys advice and am getting drunk for the first time in my life. 27 year old autistic. It took a lot of strength to buy this.

>>21573525
That glass better be overflowing with ice, could also mix in some simple syrup too

>>21573525
Not whiskey.
Nice blogpost. Faggot.

>>21573601
suck my big cock. I'm not making a thread for my "blog" bitch.

>>21573603
Neat.
Now if you'd realize that your blogpost wasn't worth posting as a post inside a thread either, then you'd really be getting somewhere.

What's the general consensus here on Angel's Envy?

>>21573752
I've only tried the port finished one and I wasn't a fan.

>>21572176
I look like and say this
in all seriousness though this anon >>21573186 is correct, if I were to suggest a revision to your copypasta I would add
>I tell people to go with JD Bonded instead, even though I've never had it myself

>>21574189
It's a question I've been meaning to ask for a long time. What's closer to the old 90-proof Jack Daniel's: the bonded or the 94-proof single barrel?

>>21573525
lol

>>21573752
it's the only whiskey my mom drinks neat

Fun fact whiskey is from uisce/uisge in gaelic, which just means water, but the gaelic word for whiskey is uisce beatha which is water of life.

>>21573752
boring and overpriced

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>>21569241
Sometimes you gotta take an ear beating if you want the Blanton's, if you want some ass, if you want the Pappy's.

>>21571859
This reply to me does not make any sense whatsoever within the context of me replying to the very last two posts in the debate which boast about "the unicorn specs" of a light whiskey. I also have a weird feeling that there is some samefagging going on in the conversation since both the buyer, some of the approving posts replying to him, and you have the same low level of literacy and weird yappy exuberance

>>21575700
Blanton's objectively and categorically sucks. I'm so happy that John wick and a retarded horse bottle was able to turn 92 proof 7-year junk into a tater containment device

>>21575703
I ordered the hazmat yesterday. Sorry about getting mixed up and calling it bourbon. I didn't say anything about it being rare, I was just trying to find out if 140 proof was something enjoyable or if science had gone too far.
If theres interest, I can make a post when I taste it.

>>21575703
it makes complete sense retard. you said i don't know what light whiskey is. if you read the comment thread you'll see that i said the bottle was an insane find because he called it bourbon. once it was revealed as light whiskey, an anon said it's not some crazy unicorn find, and i said that's debatable. note how being debatable kind of implies uncertainty but potential. and you're not going to find anything comparable under like $200 so suck a fat one you abrasive moron

haha them say whiskey rare. whiskey light. them not know light whiskey never rare never good? ha hah

>the whiskey
objectively, definitively rare
>srp
$150+
>secondary
$300-500

>>21575700
Bla'on's is the bees tits

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>>21565032

>>21576681
Based, even the AI knows it sucks

>>21576681
he's receiving the bottle for paying the monthly fee + $20 shipping

>>21576681
looks like AI is still retarded
theres a lot of focus on price and rarity and value. I've been buying these monthly bottles for a while now, so I know exactly what value it provides to me. Rarity is for taters. If I want to buy something as an investment, it's not going to be whiskey.

>>21576763
I was wondering what else do you have access to if you don't want that one bottle? Is it just previous month's releases if still in stock?

>>21576788
They do two releases a month, and typically the online store carries the current and previous month. Sometimes they put older releases on there, but not typically. I've never tried contacting them to see if I could get a specific release thats not listed online though. Their tasting room has a pretty decent selection, but it's out in the middle of nowhere, Missouri.

>>21571633
At two bottle kills a month of 750s you meet the definition of alcoholic.
The current textbook definition of alcoholic is 30 drinks in 30 days. The medical community has been demonizing alcohol in the last few years.

In the UK they still consider 3 drinks a day to be pretty normal and manageable as long as you take care of your health in other ways but it’s also cold as fuck there and they need the alcohol to survive their collapsing society and harsh winters.

It’s up to you to determine what you want your impact on your health to be and stick to your own rules. This website demonstrates nicely that people’s opinions are retarded (including so called doctors opinions) and you should learn to trust your own judgment otherwise you’ll end up a jew mental slave like the majority.

>>21575977
>i said that's debatable. note how being debatable kind of implies uncertainty but potential
Yes and that's still retarded and reveals ignorance of what light whiskey is, so I called you retarded and ignorant of what light whiskey is. Glad you caught up here.
Now what what you can do is google it and find out that it's all inherently hazmat by definition, traditionally used for blending, and the only way anyone can move it is to age it up in used casks so it's all for sale at a double digit statement. Careening around and doing this confidently-unconfident yapping and reposting gpt is just as dumb looking as being confidently wrong

>>21576626
>some of it is indeed valuable so you can't criticize my stupid thought process
Yeah I can.

canadian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bourbon = scotch > irish

>>21576814
>The current textbook definition of alcoholic is 30 drinks in 30 days.
Lotta French alcoholics...

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My favorite american single malt

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>blocks your path

>>21576997
That’s the American medical system’s definition. Europe is still pretty lax on alcohol consumption and at 14 drinks a week (60 drinks in 30 days) they just assume that’s about the average for people and don’t consider it a problem.
At 2 drinks a day you need to get some exercise (walking a few miles a day at least) to help your liver stay healthy. If you drink and are constantly sedentary then it will slowly kill you.

>>21557804
Talisker Distillers is NAS now, same as Lagavulin.
Fuck Diageo.

>>21577128
You know you can just buy their age-stated releases...right?

>>21577167
no shit Diageo® shill

>>21577186
>some of their releases that I wasn't buying anyway are now NAS
why should I care?

If I want talisker 10, i'll buy it.

If I want lag 8/12/16, i'll buy it.


I never touched those meme releases anyway.

>>21576977
you just have a kneejerk, canned reaction to the concept of light whiskey and think you're right and the market is wrong. you're welcome to have your own tastes but to be so strong in your convictions is a little bit special

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So what do you think
>Scotch Whisky
on Amtrak's first class menu is?