>20 billion pans out there and no one can agree what a good pan is>2ply, 3ply, 5ply, titanium, aluminum, stainless steel, ridges, no ridges, copper base, aluminium core, base thicknesshow the fuck is anyone meant to make a purchase when these bitch-ass pans all look the same? what are you meant to buy? how much are you meant to spend?
You have to buy a pan and use it, then form your own opinion. I like stainless.
Buying a cast iron and a stainless steel pan is never a bad idea since they will probably last you a lifetime
>>21577308People cook on rocks, dude. Just get a pan. Surface + hot = cook.
>>21577309and if it’s shit how are you meant to return it? you can’t return a used pan that’s not defective, buttmunch
>>21577310>just buy a “cast iron” (no stated characteristics to look out for) and a stainless steel pan (no stated characteristics to look for)real useful advice, so a $20 pan on amazon is perfectly fine then?
>>21577314I bought my stainless pan from a department store for about $40 over 10 years ago. Maybe address your lack of ability before you start buying cookware.
>>21577317They are all the same. Just don't go on Amazon and buy the cheapest chinkshit no name product you can find.
>>21577325>they are all the same except these ones
>>21577322>doesn’t answer the questiondon’t engage in discussions that you have no knowledge on
Get a well-reviewed All-Clad knockoff if you're looking to economize. That will be 3-ply stainless with an aluminum core. I don't know the base thickness. The All-Clad saucier is every bit as good as they say. Supposedly copper is even better.
>>21577326If you wanted a buying recommendation why didn't you say so?
>>21577339have you tried reading the OP? if it makes it easier for you:https://quillbot.com/translate/hindi-to-english
When there's so many varieties, it's obvious it's gearhead industry catering to buying addictions. Musical instruments are similar: there's not too many varieties of violin you can buy, but entire, giant stores full, wall-to-wall with guitars, mostly electric.
>>21577308Stainless steel for PotsCarbon steel for Skillets Cast Iron for Pans and Dutch ovens
>>21577314>you can’t return a used pan that’s not defective, buttmunchyes you can. amazon lets you return an item for any reason within 30 days
>>21577915except they check stuff now that they’re the monopoly and will ban you if you return too much
>>21577308Copper base's advantages are marginal (on modern stoves, if you're cooking over a Victorian coal-fired thing that's different) and titanium has no real advantages at all, both are just marketing spin to take your money.
3 ply is the best price to performance ratio. 5 ply is better. copper is further better. silver is further better.
999 solid silver pan
>>21577317Some stainless have aluminum between the layers for heat control.
>>21578762can it fry eggs?Im using a forged iron pan my dad looted from the trash and a simple stainless one.As long as the pan is preheated it works like any other pan.
>>21577314you shouldn’t need to return it unless it’s defective. the reason people don’t agree on the best pan is because there’s no objective best pan, and tons of types of pans work perfectly well. stop obsessing over getting the best pan. get a good pan, use it, figure out what you do and don’t like about it, then decide what else to get
>>21577317>>21577322>>21578785>Just buy any stainless or cast iron from thrift or AliexpressYes.jpgI buy a set of cheap-as-shit teflon saucepans for everyday cooking from target once every 6 months and then drill holes into them to make bird feeders. But the best cast iron and stainless pans for frying steaks and special shit have come from china
>>21578795>you shouldn’t need to return itso you keep a piece of shit product that technically works but is objectively shit?Like you buy headphones, and they work as headphones, but they have a tight headband or block out fuck all sound, but meet the definition of non-defective and you go "well, I bought it now"?god fucking damn i hate consoomers like you
>>21578822>best cast iron and stainless pans for frying steaks and special shit have come from chinacompletely false, the best pans are swiss, german , french or american made
>best cast ironEvery cast iron pan is the same shit just buy a random noname brandIt's just metal poured into a mold
>100% titaniumI guarantee it's not actual titanium. Titanium sticks like crazy.
>>21577308I bought an iron pan once and everything inside it tasted like iron. I'm sticking with stainless steel.
>>21578825Everything that isn't perfect isn't a piece of shit. You are thinking with a childs mind. Stop that.
Only pan I ever regret buying is this shitty carbon steel pan.Unlike cast iron they are really finnicky and if you fuck up the seasoning it's basically overPic rel has completely fucked seasoning which I tried to repair to no avail 3 times. Might actually throw it out tomorrow since I can't cook with it
>>21578547>except they check stuff nowHAHAHAGood fucking joke. At best they check one of 10.000 and only egregious damaged to hell shit gets caught. No fucking amazon-wagie will properly proof check your random 50 dollar crap.>they can ban youOh no, I don't get to support a piece of shit like Amazon anymore and I barely spent a cent because all my shit was refunded.
Should I buy two cheap pans, normal and wok, or one more expensive pan?
>>21577308just buy all clad. They have a refurbished/slightly less than perfect grading shop and it's perfectly fine. That or whatever kitchens are buying in bulk.
>>21577308What kind of idiot washes their pans in the dishwashwer?>>21577310If you're running induction both stainless and cast iron will warp before you get 10 years out of them.>>21577322My Tramontina lasted about 20 years before it warped too much to sit on a flat-top stove. I used an induction stove for about 5 years and I'm 90% certain that's what fucked it up.
>Buy the cheapest spanish 29cm pan>it heats unevenly>AND warps
for me its Finex, the finest cast iron available. It has 6 different ways to pour! Most pans only have 2 or possibly even only 1
>>21579404You couldn’t actually refute the examples so you instead tried to infantilize your opponent. You’re the child here.
>>21577322Rekt
>>21579593I just put my custom made massive circular lead weight inside of a warped pan and maximize the hellfire below until it warps itself flat again.You can't warp if you don't have space to expand.
>>21579593Is it really Spanish?
>>21577308>20 billion must fry..
>>21577317Literally yes. I bought a $12 cast iron skillet from Walmart and it has lasted for almost 7 years without any issue.
>>21579747What do you cook on it?
>>21578825We're talking pans here. Not not headphones. You fucking retard
>>21579763food mostly. often meals
>>21579763The only things I haven’t cooked in it are superdelicate foods like crepes or fish. I cook eggs, pancakes, chicken, beef, pork, veggies, use it for baking cakes and breads, and making sauces (except for tomato-based sauces. Those are too acidic and will eat the pan).I’ll also shill for cast iron as a baking dish. It holds heat really well, so it helps to brown anything you cook in it. Pineapple upside down cake from a cast iron skillet is excellent.
>>21577308>2ply, 3ply, 5ply, titanium, aluminum, stainless steel, ridges, no ridges, copper base, aluminium core, base thicknessThese aren't pans, these are qualities that pan manufacturers give you.Pans are sautee, saucepan, frying pan, crepe pan, wok, etc.
>>21577308>Stainless steel>3 ply>Heavy bottom>Preferably no rivets on the inside (it just makes cleaning thoroughly take 10 seconds longer)>Full clad is irrelevant on sautee/frying pans>Very shallow ridges don't matter, but don't buy any other meme shit on the bottoms>Preferably oven safe handleThat's literally all you need to start. Stainless steel does 90% of the job of cast iron when it comes to searing, and it can be used without food sticking if you learn the basics from a 5 minute YouTube video. If you cook a lot of delicate fish and eggs, consider a secondary non-stick pan and be prepared to replace it every couple years or whatever. Cast iron is a meme. I own them. They're heavy, annoying to care for, and unnecessary. Carbon steel is a meme. They're annoying to care for, and people only like them here and on Reddit because they're used in commercial kitchens, and faggots want to LARP as chefs. This is the objectively correct answer for 95% of people. Any no-nonsense professional or experienced cook will tell you the same.
>>21577308I used a steel pan a few times and it made my eggs turn brown. does anyone know why this is? I cooked it the exact same way I did on any other pan. Only on the steel pan the butter burned or some shit, i don't know, but the end result was always brown dirty looking eggs. I assume the steel is burning the butter?
>>21579668You're gonna get lead poisoning retard
>>21579784imagine reading half the OP and then interpreting it incorrectly. Next time, use a translator to make it easier for you:https://www.easyhindityping.com/english-to-hindi-translation
>>21580296You saying you're not happy with that?
>>21577328Fuck off retard.
>>21578822Post bird feeders.
>>21580296Imagine being scared of a little heavy metal. Wow, just wow man..
>>21577308>go to ikea>buy a couple of pans it's that easy.
>>21577411Why? I'm intrigued.
>>21577308After cooking with all the things I must say the best thing is the thing that suits you best. You find out by trying. Yes it's an expensive adventure which may ultimately lead to the conclusion that you don't even need or appreciate the expensive things more than something that just works. By the way what may be an underappreciated principle is like 1 hamburger in 8 inch fry pan is better than 4 hamburger in 10 inch fry pan you try you see. Also underappreciated is like cooking porridge in ze materials like ze clay pots is better than tasteless inert materials like ze steel and ze enamel. Try and see. That's why pancakes in carb steel on fire more delicious than pancakes in ze stainless steel on electric stove. Please see. You welcome saar.
>>21579493Why do you buy stuff from Amazon if you think it's a piece of shit
>>21580534He’s a consoomer and/or jeet who loves big corpos and thinks buying more possessions = a better/rich person>i have 40 XINGHU pan, very sexi saar, best for amazon deliver
>>21580471Turn your monitor on + we don’t sign our posts here
>>21580539Fuck off retard.
>>21580544Turn your monitor on.
>>21579706Just because the overall metallurgy quality from Espanja is good, doesn't mean that they won't cheapen out badly on some products.>>21579668I've dented it back into shape with a rubber mallet twice by this point. Its not hard work, nut it makes you wonder how many times you can do that before the warping successfully breaks the PTFE coating.
>>21579567I have mine for 9 years and they aren't warped. Even if they were it's not even a problem with induction
>>21580534Because they are the cheapest very often and don't bitch when I return shit for whatever reason. They barely earn a cent from my non-premium membership, free shipping and returns so I don't feel bad using them AND calling them shit for their business practices. If amazon disappeared tomorrow I wouldn't bat an eye.
>>21577308For most things you use stainless steel. If you want, cast iron is also good for certain things.
>>21580344why are you obsessed with brown people?are you mentally ill?
>>21579662I don't need to refute that. I am, as well, not that person. If something doesn't fit, it's not a piece of shit its the wrong size. Arguably, poor quality would lead something to be a piece of shit but an electronic not working properly is not the same as not understanding how to work a piece of metal.
>>21577308I don't use pans because I don't fry my food in oil
>>21577308what the fuck do i need "ply" in a pan for? im not gonna wipe my ass with it lmaoooo
>>21577308>Having this much choice anxiety over a frying panReddit brainJust go to home gods or something and buy a good pan that says "stainless steel", preferably one big enough to fit a big meal, and below $40stop overthinking shit fag. you don't need the best pan out there to cook some food. even half decent commercial kitchens use chinkshit
>>21577394There's absolutely a pervasive gearfagging problem in guitar, but to be fair there are a lot more genres that use guitars these days, a million varieties of rock, country, metal, jazz, blues, etc., and they all have their own expectations for tone. There's also the fact that most violin music puts a big emphasis on traditionalism and a lot of violin playing is in an orchestra context where you're expected to blend in anonymously with dozens of other musicians, while guitars are usually played in 3-5 person bands where you're right up front and center on stage and the guitar is very visible so aesthetics become a major consideration.
>>21577308Stainless steel aluminum core is all you need for like 95% of meals.
>>21579943Sounds like the pan is too hot.
>>21577308The titanium pans i've seen seem to leech chromium when you cook with them, that can't be too healthy.
>>21581647>huffing chrome everytime you eat eggsWITNESS ME
Look at this knife. It's really not that bad. I just wish it was thinner and copied the handle style of Babish's tacky knife. Babish's knife is somehow more cringe than this knife while being a marvel of engineering. Like why did he put his face on it? Ruined. Why do you hate kitchen products in your kitchen? Sorry I cannot post my own thread so am putting this here.
>>21577308Stone pan mogs everything.
>>21577308Cast iron is for food that needs high heat, like hamburgersStainless steel is for searing steaks and saucesStone pan for everything else
>>21582348>trusting stone bonding material to be food safeIf you can't tell it's safe right? Just like teflon.
>>21582348Retard that's just teflon under a different name.
>>21577308cast iron is the best. literally everyone agrees with that.... what on earth are you talking about? Where do you ever hear people saying cast iron isnt the best? Every chef will tell you it is. A good cast iron pan will last your whole life and your childrens and grandchildrens life.
>>21577308everything other than cast iron, carbon steel and stainless steel gives you cancer and aids
>>21578791nta but probably not silver has a pretty strong reaction with sulfur
>>21579437this seasoning looks fine to me whats the problem?
>Stainless steel requires too much oil to make it properly nonstick >Cast iron is heavy as fuck and annoying to take care of>Nonstick slowly poisons you>Copper is a meme >Hexclad is a literal scam >Never tried carbon steel I think it's time to return to heating things on rocks
>>21582723Why is stainless steel preferred in professional settings then?
>>21583089>>Stainless steel requires too much oil to make it properly nonstickBullshit. I fry eggs in my stainless and all it takes is two or possibly three spray-bottle sprays. Just don't pour oil to cover the bottom or whack sticks of butter in there and you'll be good. I still do this in non-sticks because it tastes weird without at least a thin layer of caramelized fat/oil.
>>21583094probably because you can abuse the fuck out of them with steel wool and not ruin the heckin seasoning
>>21583094Professional settings always prioritize the tools that can be abused, over the tools that can't. Similarly the chefs knives will usually be some kind of stainless steel mystery blend, because they can't be bothered to train new staff on honing and correctly wiping down the stainable knifes after use correctly. They might even batch send over knifes to a sharpening service, if such a thing exist in the area, and not even at regular intervals. What i will give the stainless pans, is that t hey also compliment using a harsher burner.
