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>>21587075
>being poor

I've never had to learn about how welfare works but I am probably going to lose my job since the economy is crashing, and there won't be more jobs to apply to, so it's welfare or starve.

But they're probably going to cancel SNAP and whatever else, so I had better get good at shoplifting bread. Maybe if I'm lucky I'll get caught and get to eat prison food

>>21587080
You realize anyone can get snap, right?

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>>21587081
Hey, I'm sorry to hear that you think you're going to lose your job. I hope you don't, but if you do, definitely go to a food pantry. I work at a food pantry, and you can get some really great stuff there. We give out sandwiches and bagels, fresh fruit, and all kinds of produce. Of course, it depends on where you live, but you can usually stock up and get a ton of calories for free. We get thousands of pounds of frozen fish, chicken, turkey, and beef in weekly. You can really clean up at a food pantry.

>>21587084
That's not true.

>>21587091
Yeah its true but I'm not going to argue with you

>>21587084
>>21587093
free, white, over 21 with no kids = no snap.
if you qualify, you're not one of those things.

>>21587081
>the economy is crashing
it's not.

>>21587146
Like I said, I'm not going to argue with you.

>>21587149
that was another anon.
t. jobless and can't get snap.

>>21587148
the stock market is not the economy

>>21587146
You're right that not anyone can get snap you're wrong that being older than 21, white, no kids, etc- are disqualifying? My roommate is like 28, white, no kids and is on foodstamps

>>21587149
Of course you won't argue because you know you're wrong. You are a shameless lying subhuman.

>>21587157
I'm glad racist retards think only nonwhite people can get snap. It saves money on the program

>>21587157
>white
x to doubt.
>>21587156
correct!
but the economy is doing great.
don't let the 2 minutes of hate tell you how to think.
economic strength is solely measured by how much food waste a nation has per day.

>>21587166
are you retarded, anon? MOST people on foodstamps are white, it's still the majority of the country by a mile.
>>21587160
desu i think it's more pride than it is that people think they can't get on because white. It's broken down a lot in recent years but the idea that taking a government handout is shameful is still present in many places

>>21587166
>the economy is doing great
LOL LMAO dawg the economy is slowing down, the jobs market is also getting worse and a lot of nations are continuing to gear up to throw hands if the tariffs aren't adjusted or lifted

>>21587172
Haa shit. The more the post, the more obvious it becomes that you're a fucking retard. Most likely dribbling with cross-eyes

>21587176
Drooling*

im white and on food stamps. i've also never had sex before so there's that

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>>21587149
Because you're wrong. There is an income limit for snap and it's pretty low.

>>21587075
im self employed and make less than 20k a year and live with my grandparents. I applied for health insurance from the government, and had the option to get $200 of free food a month and turned it down because Im not a free loader.

have some pride.

>>21587242
>I'm not a freeloader.
>Have some pride.
>I live with my grandparents.

>>21587075
TANSTAAFL

>>21587242
>im self employed and make less than 20k a year and live with my grandparents.
Wouldn't you be better off working a minimum wage job for 38 hours per week?

>>21587242
> Pride
And what has that bought you in life so far?
Everyone from top to bottom is cheating, and the "im not gonna freeload"ers make this possible. That you for your service

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I'm middle age, white, and unable to find a job in my career. So I get $292/month from SNAP (pic related is off by $1 as it's from last year).
Qualifying for SNAP is mainly based on income and household size. You're expected to spend 1/3rd of your income on food and the government will cover the gap between than and the $292 that is set as the amount needed for a person to each for an entire month. There's a small standard deduction (something like $800 for the first household member and $550ish for each additional household member) plus deductions for housing costs and utilities, though I'm not sure if they're at 100% or it scales. Either way, any money you make over your deductions must have 1/3rd set aside for food. If you live alone and make $300/month after deductions, you are expected to set aside $100 for food and the government will give you $192 to cover the rest of your need. If you make $876 over the deduction, you get nothing.
Now, about the work requirements. There are two. The general requirement is that you do not turn down any job offered to you and you do not voluntarily reduce your hours if you have a job. This rule is generally unenforceable as the government has no way of knowing if you turned down a job and unless they call your employer, has no way of knowing why your hours were cut.
The second work requirement is the one Congress is changing. Until a few years ago, It required adults without a dependent child to work at least 20 hours a week. Volunteer work or work training in a government approved program could count towards the 20 hour requirement. Adults over 50 were exempt due to expectations of age discrimination and lower physical ability. If you were over 50 and still on SNAP, it generally meant something was really wrong in your life that wasn't going to be fixed by cutting off your food. You can see why some women spread out their children so they always had a dependent in the household until they made it to 50.
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>>21587269
When people in society help people in society that's called SOCIETY retard. it's not "cheating" to make use of social services that serve as an unfortunately necessary bandaid to our fucked up system.

>>21587279
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A few years ago, the 50 year old age limit was bumped to 52 and then 54. The new law moves it to 65. It also changes the definition of a dependent child from 18 to 14.
States with high unemployment (50% above the national average) were able to have some of the SNAP work requirements waived in areas of high unemployment. Those waivers will no longer be available. States were also able to make case by case decisions on work requirement waivers. Up to 8% of those on SNAP could be waived from the work requirement. That is now 1%.
Note that EBT isn't the same thing as SNAP. EBT is the system by which funds are transferred from the government to the store where something is being purchased. There are other programs besides SNAP on EBT such as TANF and in some states, WIC. Those programs have their own rules about what can be purchased. That's why you sometimes see signs about accepting EBT at places that don't sell food. TANF funds can buy almost anything, while SNAP is limited to foods, and WIC restricted even further.
There's no such thing as an unlimited EBT card. Those videos are ragebait and common sense should tell you if they were real, people would buy houses and cars with them.
Regarding fraud, most fraud comes from immigrant communities that create fake children out of thin air and then "spend" funds at a relative's store. What really happens is no goods are exchanged but government money flows into the account of the store owner, who shares it with his relatives that are part of the scam. This scams are on the order of millions and sometimes tens of million of dollars. Tyrone selling his SNAP card for 50 cents of the dollar isn't anywhere near the scale as these immigrant community scams.

>>21587283
While I'm all for pushing lazy people into work, almost all employment growth has gone to visa holders and DEI. It's cruel for government policy to have favored non citizens for decades and DEI for the better part of a decade while calling those shutout of the job market lazy for not getting past the HR filter. Most of those out of the labor force aren't lazy, they're excluded intentionally. Moving the cutoff from 54 to 65 is also cruel. How many people in that age group that are currently unemployed are going to be able to find work? It's almost as if some in the government want to instigate an uprising for whatever reason as hunger is the number one reason historically why revolutions kick off.

>>21587242
>live with my grandparents
You leach off your elderly grandparents and tell others to have pride while claiming you're not a freeloader? What you are is in denial.

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It’s free pill!

>>21587242
Why didn't you take the 200 to help buy groceries for your grandparents?

>>21587306
Grandparents are magical portals of unlimited money.

>>21587081
Man I just got offered 3 great jobs in the past month after not being offered anything after leaving school in January. What hell hole or shit field are you in?

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>>21587172
>it's still the majority of the country by a mile.
Troll, or doesn't understand what it would feel like missing breakfast today

>>21587355
Minimum wage should literally be $150/hr compared to 1970 wages.

Rich people telling poors to work harder is like womens' dating advice is "be yourself" or boomers saying "bootstraps yourself up to buying a 3 million dollar home"

>>21587242
I'd rather my taxes feed your dumb ass than fund overseas brown people wars.
It's not real money anyways. Enjoy some fatted calf before eggs are $10 each

>>21587075
We pay for it, it's better to go for us folk in the USA than to some overseas commie scum buckets.

>>21587088
>Hey, I'm sorry to hear that you think you're going to lose your job. I hope you don't, but if you do, definitely go to a food pantry. I work at a food pantry, and you can get some really great stuff there. We give out sandwiches and bagels, fresh fruit, and all kinds of produce.
why do you sound so cute? Like you shouldn't be on 4chan but you are.

Can I kiss you?
No, i just will *sticks tongue in your mouth*

>>21587375
The federal reserve can always print up more worthless paper.
IN GOD WE TRUST!

Look this stuff up, federal reserve governorons
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/what-supreme-court-said-about-presidents-firing-federal-reserve-governors/ar-AA1LgERh

>>21587346
tech, what about you?

>>21587414
crickets

>single people literally can't qualify for it unless they're working part time for the fucking literal minimum wage
>never mind that single people making $20 an hour are on the brink of destitution
>meanwhile Shaniqua and her 6 kids get thousands a month to blow on hot bar chicken and Tampico
>all because "THINK OF MUH CHILDREN!!!!"
Fuck the government, welfare is a goddamn joke

>>21587512
Black people will literally starve to death if EBT was ended. Welfare from cradle to grave.

>>21587515
I don't even care that the people who get welfare are black or whatever the fuck.
I care that the government to whom I pay taxes every two weeks says they don't give one single iota of a fuck if I live or die. I make fucking 2300 a month after said taxes if I'm lucky, and half of that is spent my rent, and another thousand on debt. Yet I haven't ever been able to qualify for even a single dollar in food stamps or any other assistance programs! They say "go fuck yourself" since I'm not unlucky enough to be raising a kid with so little money, as if to say having a child (even one raised in squalor by absentee parents) is of more value than my actual existence as an able bodied man of working age. It's in direct opposition to the idea of a social contract, of what government should be for it's people.

I'm also basically watching the clock waiting for the shoe to drop on my job. It's cybersecurity which should be pretty safe, but not invincible, so I hope that rates drop low enough for an IRRL refi that will get my monthlies around a grand. In the meantime I'm learning poverty cooking and saving like a miser. Good thread imho.

>>21587530
His mom is a baddie and kicked him so she can get dicked down without some kid eating Cheetos at midnight

>>21587242
I'll never understand the mindset amongst my fellow Americans for not taking every legal advantage you can in this life. Nobody is gonna clap you on the back and go "hell yeah brother, that's the True American Spirit!" other than pakistani accounts larping as Americans on twitter.

According to ChatGPT, most states don't consider money from plasma donation to be income when determining SNAP eligibility. Depending on local conditions, you can make $600-$1000 each month from donating plasma. Though most states don't consider it income for SNAP eligibility, it's still taxable income but not earned income. If it is your only income, your standard deduction will exempt it from federal tax. Might owe some state tax.

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>>21587582
enjoy aids from the needles

>State won't let me apply for bennies online unless I consent to them sharing my information with Experian for """verification"""
>try it anyway
>"Request could not be processed..... Your information may match someone already in our system. Please try again later."
I hate them.

>>21587590
I discovered the only way to get someone from the California employment benefits office on the phone is to pay a 3rd-party $10 to spam their phone line with autocalls until you get queued.
The reason you can't get through normally is presumably because everyone else is paying to spam their lines as well.

I signed up for calfresh last year and included my fiance and elderly mother on the application. For the first 12 months we were getting about $950 a month to spend on food for our household and it has honestly been a huge game changer. No more constantly wasting money eating fast food slop twice a day, I'm actually learning to cook better meals at home and we're able to afford healthier food than before. They recently cut our benefits to about $600 a month but it'll still be enough to cover groceries if we don't go overboard. Plus, I can still work part-time jobs and as long as I don't earn more than $4k a month it doesn't affect our calfresh. Overall a great program; you goobers realize that most of our tax dollars go to israel and tech ghouls these days so food stamps are really a drop in the bucket fiscally. There's no reason not to apply if you're eligible. It's not like the money would be better spent enriching some corrupt government contractor or any of the other myriad ways the feds waste money.

>>21587582
I tried to donate plasma once but it knocked me out lmao. Curled up from "blood loss" and woke up to a nurse splashing Gatorade in my face.

>>21587618
grim

>>21587618
They're supposed to give you juice and shit for that lmao.

>>21587625
I guess Gatorade is as close as they could get at the time. I got my 150 bucks and then never used it.

>>21587582
So I looked into this, apparently you have to donate 8x a month, you get a huge fucking drain pipe inserted into your arm twice a week and you will look like a junkie. And you'd be lucky to make $500. Which granted is not nothing and if you're starving it's probably worth the pain but it sounds horrible.

>>21587587
The needles don't worry me but the number of sketchy looking people in there who are coughing up a lung constantly certainly does.
>>21587611
SNAP changes are usually about signaling to the public that politicians are "doing something" about excessive spending without impacting any of the globalist programs that suck up so much money. That said, while SNAP isn't all that much of the budget relative to the benefit it provides, government medical care is breath taking in both size and growth.
Think lots of the anger comes from people seeing SNAP recipients buying junk food. People complain about steak and lobster but when I worked at a grocery store I didn't see all that much of either being paid for by with food stamps. There were lots of Doritos and soft drinks. The only people I really hated were the WIC folks, who should only have been youngish women but somehow often were guys or elderly people. No matter who they were, WIC was the source of endless problems as they always tried to buy things not on the list of approved items. Can't stress enough how much I hate those fuckers.

>>21587632
There are multiple companies and they all have their own constantly changing payout schedules but it is common for there to be a bonus if you do a certain number of donations in a month. Since you can only donate twice a week, eight or nine times in a month pretty much is the max. If you keep going to the same place, they'll start offering you less and less. The key is to rotate each month between different donation sites so they have to give you a good offer to get you to come back to them.
Scaring from getting a needle pushed into your arm twice a week can happen but that's greatly reduced if you make use a scar cream and are generally healthy.

>>21587172
>MOST people on foodstamps are white
you don't even know what white is.

>>21587174
>dawg the economy is slowing down
when?
last i checked ai is doing just fine.
you heard that france turned lead into gold recently, right?
money is officially over.
the economy has been solved.

>>21587515
Well they qould have build Wakanda instead cracka stole them to work fields for free

>>21587075
they removed me because I don't have a job

you literally won't get accepted if you're white

>>21587081
>eat prison food
Do you like cock meat sandwiches?

>>21587685
famously, every advancement has caused the wealthy elite class to use this newfound thing to advance humankind and not just line their own pockets, entrench their power and serve their own interests.

>>21587242
>not a freeloader
>live with my grandparents
>only make 20k a year
>somehow proud of this
???

>>21587530
18 is too young with the world how it is, 20 seems reasonable

how do they even know if you're white or not?

>>21587075
yeh boi!

>>21587530
Fast forward a few decades and she'll be lying in a retirement home all alone wondering why her children don't visit her

>>21587214
Can confirm. I'm in the trap where I sometimes have to pass up overtime at work because it will make me lose SNAP. Being poor is a lot of fucking work.

I tried to get SNAP in Oregon because I only make about $35k a year but I was shocked to discover the cutoff is about half that. Like how the fuck is it even possible to make that little? Add to that the same fuckers get Gold-tier obamacare for free while I pay $3,000/year for Bronze. I think I'm just going to kms myself.

>>21587928
Shit is nothing but a trap until or unless you can net (NET, not gross) about 100k annually. Then you make enough to not care. Not enough to be rich, but enough to relax. Fucking joke country.

>>21587530
Her son is a big baby, she did the right thing. Looks like his parents didn't prepare him for it so they suck. This will help him in the long run since they failed at raising him lol

>>21587928
why do you instantly get pissy about what someone else has? this is why you are controlled fuckin npc retard

>>21587967
Because I pay for it in taxes faggot. I'm terribly sorry for not wholly endorsing theft of my personal money and time.

>>21587996
You are the best NPC yes you are!

>>21587998
>Don't want to waste tax money on useless leeches
>YOU ARE NPC SAAR
No, he's right.

Wish I was fucking dead DESU

>>21587088
>sandwiches and bagels
Can I get dairy and eggs instead

>>21588009
You are also an NPC lol congrats bro

sadly my neetbux is way past the income limit else i would enjoy those free government gibs
i go to food bank lines every month though. usually a ton of great stuff from them

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>>21587084
they ask for your income and current bank account balance when you apply

>can't use it for tobacco or alcohol
what the fuck is the point. I thought this was for poor people

>>21587928
>kms myself

Need rest? You probably post "RIP in peace" as well. You have to basically be homeless to get OHP Plus and snap, which is only $292 a month, which you *could* live on if you were very careful. And now Trump is trying to take away snap benefits for people who aren't working. The whole system is fucked. The "middle class" really gets screwed over and the rich get richer and the poverty populace grows. The 1% is too greedy to share and most of the people who actually vote them in are hardcore in favor of this "capitalism" that's fucked them over for the last couple generations. Why a bunch of dirt poor people would be so against "spreading the wealth around" (because that's "communism" or "socialism" and those are BAD WORDS. Scary!!), but I suspect it's because they think tomorrow they'll be rich and then have to share with poorer people, possibly with darker skin! Oh no!!

>>21587264
and have no free time?

didn't know my post caused so much seethe. i take care of my grandparents by choice because i love them. it was that or they go live in a home which my parents cant afford to send them to a good one. guess you guys are all third worlders or never had any pride for anything?

> i earned that

versus
> guhuhuhuhu, steak grow on tree!

>>21588236
This. If you get caught lying about it you will have to pay it back and may be fined or jailed. If you do get into a fucked situation where you're broke and jobless get benefits and just hold on to them as long as you can. But as soon as you have taxable income you have to get off the program.
For people who need food assistance I suggest food banks. They are a lot like supermarkets where you just load up what you want (you can have limited amounts of course or people would ruin that by clearing it out and reselling it or some shit) and they help you bag it up. It might be a little embarrassing if you're prideful. But from what I've seen around this website there are a lot of shameless cheapskates, real opportunists, who love to take advantage of that kind of thing even when they don't need it.

>>21587093
>>21587149
This fucking guy again. He won't argue with you. He can get a better deal. He knows better. He's right. He can't back it up, so he "won't" argue with anyone. But still assert that he wins.

>>21588251
I'm not going to argue with you.

>>21587967
Yeah the problem isn't the people in power rigging the system to make the poors fight each other over scraps, the problem is poors getting pissy. Just relax and stop fighting. New money aesthetic is very cringe anyway. Know your place.

>>21588245
>didn't know my post caused so much seethe.
You were being judgemental about others while acting superior. That's instant backlash and well deserved. No wonder you have to mooch off your grandparents if you're this old and still haven't learned the basics of human interaction. Go read a Dale Carnigie book before you waste even more of your life being hated for being a dick. And yes, you are a dick. You think you're not but your life circumstances almost certainly are due to people not liking you as you really are a dick.
This could be a life changing moment for you but dicks rarely change. You are unlikely to be an exception.

>>21588247
People believe whatever makes them feel righteous rage. SNAP has access to many data sources, including the IRS and what used to be called "The Work Number", a service of Equifax that reports jobs and paycheck information for most large employers. When a former employer shutdown, their 401(k) program was transferred to another finance company. Due to an accounting error a decade ago when I rolled over funds into my new employer's 401(k) program, there was about $50 left in the old account. I opted to get a check instead of bothering to roll it over since I was now unemployed and any little amount helped. About two months later I got a letter from my state's benefits office demanding to know what that $50 was for. The distribution had been reported to the IRS and the IRS reported it to my state. Since the $50 was below the income threshold for SNAP, I didn't lose any benefits over it but I was reminded that I must report all income and that they have lots of ways of finding out about it.
Anons sometimes post about how grocery stores hate food stamps because at the first of the month the store is swamped with (slur) going wild with their new balance. When it's pointed out that only a couple of small states still do first of the month disbursement while almost all have moved to rolling disbursement based on last name, application date, SS#, or some other system, they double and triple down. Doesn't matter if you link them to primary sources showing disbursement schemes for different states, their egos are wrapped up in being "right" and they're sure what they heard from some guy at the Dollar General is right and those government documents on government websites are lies to trick everyone. They simply want to be outraged and feel righteous about it.

>>21587214
so you have to satisfy both gross and net?

>>21587197
Same. Based.

>>21589023
Eligibility is based on both but the benefits amount is based only on net. It's to prevent some edge cases where a person is able to generate a large number of deductions. The state has some flexibility in deciding what to do if your gross is over the limit but your net is under the limit. They look at it on a case by case basis to ensure the deductions are legit and not structured.

This was a couple of years ago but I tried to apply for...food stamps....maybe snap. idk what it was exactly. First time I even attempted to look into how to apply. I'm a single white male. making 2200 a month. My rent is 960. My monthly bills are over 600. I have to make monthly payments of 200 for a loan. That leaves me with 440 for a whole month for food and gas. Food maybe 150 a month, gas for my car to get to and from work maybe another 50 or so. The left is for "fun stuff" LOL I was fucking denied.
DENIED.

>>21589867
>single
Well there's your problem.

>>21589867
440-150-50=240 for fun stuff.
So you had enough money to cover all your bills, including food, and still had money left over for fun stuff but you're angry that you couldn't shift some of the food money over to fun stuff?
Sounds like the government set the income limits pretty well.

>>21587261
But it's not free. It's paid for by everyone with taxes.

I never understood why you were allowed to buy junk food with stamps.

>>21587512
My sister was a single mother and busting her ass trying to support her kid
Government wouldn't give her assistance unless she popped out another one. This current system encourages hood rats and welfare kangs/queens

>>21587834
That's not true of course. And you don't know what 'literally' means at all. Big surprise there.

>>21587075
It's a nice concept, i wish my country had something similar. Western democracies are really very kind towards their people. It makes me feel quite positive to see charity like this

>>21590064
>Government wouldn't give her assistance unless she popped out another one.
You know what to do anon.

>>21590091
Hold up a Love Quest sign outside a hood liquor store?
>LOOKING FOR STRONG MEN TO KNOCK UP MY SISTER

>>21588261
You're incapable of winning an argument so that would be wise.

>>21588711
Good post. I knew I wasn't the only one here with a brain and some life experience.
Why are we still on this fucking forum?

>>21590097
It's DIY time

>>21590061
Because what is "junk" is subjective. Food is food. You can't buy fast food or hot deli food with the card. Who is the government to enforce upon you what you will eat?

>>21590064
That's not true. They did not encourage her to have another child.

>>21590107
NTA but no where else to go. Also regarding the outdated notion of the first of the month ghetto shopping sprees, I think a lot of anons knowledge of urban poors comes from rap music. They're just repeating what they've heard rappers say about the first of the month.

>>21590107
Don't forget, you're here forever.

>>21590114
>You can't buy fast food or hot deli food with the card. Who is the government to enforce upon you what you will eat?
pick one retard

>>21587174
GDP growth is slowing, but unemployment is still historically low and wage growth is outpacing inflation. Most of y'all niggas was underage during the last actual recession and it shows.

>>21590115
The worker at the SNAP department said she wouldn't be eligible with her income unless she had another kid.

>>21590151
'08 was brutal. Huge reason so many millennials are fucked and living at home/with roommates in their 30s and not having kids or families.

>>21587075
I dated a girl who had EBT. She used to buy me groceries just because. I'm still sitting on a Sam's Club box of Velveeta Shells and Cheese from two years ago.

>>21587075
It should be required by law for them to post the cutoff that you declare in earnings each month. It would save us a lot of time.
The hoops they want you to jump through for that sweet $46/month in food credits tho

>>21587530
Seems scripted. If someone has been living with you for X amount of years (including family) you cannot immediately evict them unless theres a serious cause. You usually have to give them 3 months.

>>21590054
It's also paid for by taxes the recipients paid when they had jobs. Lots of people on SNAP are on it for only a limited time between jobs. Now that the job market is ruined by 55 million visa holders, 15 million green card holders, an unknown number of illegals, DEI and outsourcing, it takes far longer now to find a new job. Many people paid into the system through their taxes for decades and now are getting a tiny bit back. You're not the only one who is paying in.

>>21590061
Administration simplicity. Grocery stores are not required to accept SNAP or any other government program. Those funds are not legal tender. The government saves by not having to set up a vast food distribution system of their own and by not needing to keep track of the various health issues of millions of individuals whose diet it will have to accommodate it.
The current rules are very simple: if it has a Nutrition Facts label on it and it's not hot prepared food, it qualifies. That makes administration of the program simple. Some states are now prohibiting the purchase of soft drinks. That sounds like a good idea but in reality those sales will shift to fruit juice, which isn't actually better for you even though the government says they're great. Coca-Cola and Pepsi own most of the fruit juice market so it's not like they're even losing money, it's just shifting to different products. The recipients will still spend their full amount of benefits so there's no savings there either.
Remember the US government created the Food Pyramid (well, actually the Swedes and the US copied them). That's what the government classifies as healthy, which includes quite a bit of what you and me would consider to be junk food. Doritos are full of grains. Pork chops have a strip of fat. Guess which one the government says is healthy?

>>21590125
Which is understandable until someone explains the truth to them and even shows them definitive sources but they won't let go of their preconceived notions.
>>21590115
I have no way of knowing what was said but simply looking at the benefits chart tells people that if they have more children, they'll find it easier to qualify and receive more funds. It would be stupid to have children because of that. Even with SNAP, CHIP, Section 8 and dozens of other programs, having a child is still going to cost more than benefits. The main advantage is that you can't be kicked off of SNAP as long as you have a child in the household that needs to be fed. Lots of people will make poor short term decisions with long term consequences.
>>21590210
Technically illegal but little chance of getting caught.
>>21590221
That you get $46 and not $292 is an important point that the S in SNAP means Supplemental. Most people get less than the full $292 as what they get supplements their food budget, not covers it entirely.
>>21590321
Yes, weird they had a camera setup and everything. If he turned violent, she could have had him removed at least for the night, though that's not the same thing as an eviction. Whatever the case, it was a cunty way of doing things.

>>21590155
No. They would not have phrased it in that way at all. Perhaps "with two children you would qualify". That's far different than "unless you bear another child we will not give you X."

>>21590139
Out of a selection of retards I should choose one? Learn about commas, dingus.

[see? I just taught you]

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>>21590151
>unemployment is still historically low
And Joe Biden said food inflation was only 0.3% his last year of office. Are you completely out of touch with the millions who are trying to get jobs but can't even get past the HR filter? Do you know when the government stops counting someone as unemployed even though they haven't been able to get a job in years?
I want to give you the benefit of the doubt here but there are too many partisan ideologues running around spouting garbage from the government that doesn't match the reality the people of the country are dealing with. Millions of people want jobs, can't get jobs, and it's shitty of you and your ideological fellow travelers to shit all over them with trash statistics pulled from your asses. Put yourself in the shoes of those who are long term unemployed, shut out of the job market, and some smarmy kids comes by and tells you that unemployment is historically low. People's need to get a job doesn't disappear just because some HR Karen doesn't want to do her job and the government excludes a person from the stats because they've been out of work for too long.

>>21590424
i see companies hiring literally everywhere though

>>21590861
Literally? They just announced there are 1 million fewer jobs created than previously thought. You would consider NBC Nightly News to be a fake source though. So this fact is not part of "your truth". You see hiring literally everywhere. Literally.

>>21589867
My recent SNAP purchases include $200 of protein powder, $120 of dried wakame, and $110 of coffee.

The US government pays me to be autistic. ~990 cash and ~900 housing assistance (free water/gas/electric), plus ~250 SNAP, plus whatever medical. After internet bill and my own portion of rent, I have ~670, which goes to a tax-free investment account. It's really incredible that you wagies don't kill yourselves.

>>21590955
whats your problem? you talk to people like that its no wonder they dont like you

>>21590861
>>21590955
>literally everywhere
man i wish english speakers would use that word properly
meanwhile, in orbit around Ganymede: "are you our next market analyst?"

>>21587148
Okay MIGA retard

>>21588711

Hold on, you took the $50 from the 401k disbursement? Did you have to pay a penalty on it as well (assuming you're under the withdrawal age)?

>>21590365

Fun fact, I once worked for a take-and-bake pizza place that technically counted as grocery because the food was merely prepared, not cooked. As a result, we could accept EBT. Most people on the program were humble about it but there were a few families that were every bit the stereotype of leeches. This one fat white trash family would come in and order no fewer than six pizzas (with few veggies) and act like they owned the place. The amount of times I was tempted to spit in their food was alarming

>>21590861
Taking applications, but not hiring. I had to make my own business to make any goddamn dosh because even big box stores aren't hiring.

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>>21587075
Trump took muh food stamps
I miss it

>>21590210
i have an ebt sugar mommy who gets government subsidies and i am pretty much her pet dog
and i couldnt be happpppyier

>>21588680
Take your own advice

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>>21587834
it's amazing how rightoids just blatantly lie about everything

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>>21591245
>Wagie wagie get in cagie. All day long you sweat and ragie. NEET is comfy. NEET is cool. NEET is free from work and school. Wagie trapped and wagie died. NEET eats tendies, sauce, and fries.
>implying
can't say we didn't warn you, retards

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>>21591197
Yes, 10% penalty. But I came out ahead because when I contributed to that 401(k), I was making over $100k and my marginal rate was 31%. I should have paid $15.50 of tax on that $50 but ended up paying only $5 because I was below the standard deduction that year. Of course all of this ignores fund growth.
>>21591005
Those numbers look about right but getting disability for autism is extremely difficult if your autism is at a level where you can post online coherently. Guess you played things up successfully or your therapist is in on it.
>>21590861
You see them hiring or you see them advertising positions? Those are very different things. If you see them actually hiring, what do the people they hire look like? Most of the complaints are about companies exclusively hiring affinity groups.

>>21591864
That hasn't amazed me in a long time. It's kind of their only move really.

>>21587081
>there won't be more jobs to apply to, so it's welfare or starve.
Sounds like a skill issue. Unironically.
What industry do you work in? Just go wait tables, you get a shift meal and cash in hand by end of each night.

>>21591869
>Tard room
My mom worked as a Special Ed teacher, so she had access to one of those tard playground rooms. I got to play in them after school while I waited for her to finish up.
Actually a shitload of fun. Going through the rollers and sitting in the bouncy chairs is 10/10.

>>21587166
>t the economy is doing great.
trump's stooge at the BLS, who has every incentive to make shit up about how great things are, has updated the summer month jobs reports to show totally flat employment growth and is predicting "negative growth" for september
shit is falling apart unless you're in a do nothing email job

>>21590861
putting a "help wanted" sign in a window or posting fake openings to indeed is not hiring
you are genuinely so dumb you got tricked by one of the oldest tricks in their book

>>21587242
>I will live worse than a medieval peasant so mr shekelburgstein can buy his Nth yacht, but I have pride!
do americans really

>>21587928
means testing is specifically designed to prevent people from using benefits unless they live only on benefits
that way republicans can screech about how tyquavianta and her 75 kids are welfare queen leeching on honest hard working white people so we need to kill all benefits, when you could get rid of means testing so people like you can benefit from them too and see how helpful they are

>>21587148
The K shaped economy is not a good thing for us normal people, anon

>>21593211
>I will live worse than a medieval peasant
You're a fucking moron. American fent heads living in tents live better than medieval peasants. Why do you think so many third worlders who are actual peasants come here? Why do you think so many third world ESL peasants come on this site to post instead of using their own image board in their own language to communicate with their countrymen?

>>21593221
Bill Clinton added most of the welfare and food stamp provisions you hate.

>>21587075
>putting healthy food within reach
>people use it to buy hecking chips and soda
What did they mean by this?

government spends how many bazillions on pointless bullshit god forbid they send me 292 dollars a month to spend on food, which ultimately goes to subsidize the food industry anyways so it's a win-win

>>21593203
>or posting fake openings to indeed
Holy ESL Batman.

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>>21593896
There is a program where people with SNAP get to double their money when spent on produce at select farmers markets. But there aren't all that many markets that participate in the program. The ones that do are either ironically in wealthy areas or are deep into the inner city near a downtown.
Pic related is interesting because it's the first time I've ever seen the bonus bucks for buying produce advertised as working at a grocery store. These generally are state level policies so Iowa might be kicking in some state funds to make this possible.
The potential downsides are that not all produce is healthy and the double (or half price) policy can add to complications and confusion, something SNAP tries to avoid as it increases administration costs.

>>21594982
I was wondering why my local farmers market was suddenly absolutely filled with rude, pushy, shouting, spitting, littering Indian and Arab immigrants. They just push old people, cut in lines, yell at the sellers, and make the overall shopping experience miserable. I have to go as soon as the market opens or its like being in some third world market.

>>21595447
Those are people who live to haggle and are mad that the people at Kroger won't give them a discount no matter how much they try. Farmers markets will have vendors who are willing to make a deal but I feel sorry for them because we both know how pushy those fuckers you are talking about are.

I wouldn't mind poorfags getting snap benefits if the vast majority of them weren't horrendously obese unhealthy fat retards who should lose 300 lbs before asking for free food.
Like there needs to be a weight limit for snap users.
If you aren't under a normal bmi you shouldn't qualify for snap.

>>21595552
Most people on snap are embarrassed to be seen using their EBT card. You associate the most obnoxious food stamp queens with it because they're the ones who are loud and proud.

>>21587242
My taxes pay for your welfare so fuck you for spitting in my face.
>>21587642
The list of approved items is also retarded. Cheddar is fine in my state unless it's extra sharp. I'm glad I got to pay some bureacrat to figure out how much flavor the poors are allowed to experience.
>>21587996
You consent to paying taxes when you engage in transactions with others. If you don't want to pay taxes, you can. Just stop doing that.
>>21591200
I had a roommate that was getting jerked around by calfresh for three months until they approved him with backbenefits so he bought a shitload of papa murphy's for the house.
>>21593199
The do-nothing email jobs are also shitting the bed. My company's starting layoffs even though we're in a """recession-proof""" industry because the tariffs completely fucked their profitability.

>>21587383
I'm not going to argue with you.

>>21595638
The extra sharp restriction is weird. As far as I can tell, the main difference is that it has one extra gram of fat and one less gram of protein, making it slightly higher in calories.
The taste difference shouldn't matter. Maybe some list somewhere considered it gourmet cheese and that's why it's excluded. When you start drilling down really deep into the depths of government policy, often you find some minor decision that was meant to have limited impact bubbling up into other areas.

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>>21594930
stupid child, you have to be 18+ to post here

>>21595447
Sounds like a nightmare. Fucking nasty poos really do ruin everything they touch.

>>21587214
>>21587149
>>21587146
not only are the income limits and other means testing strict and prohibitive and becoming stricter, applying is purposely time-consuming and decisions are constantly delayed. It's very common for someone to go through all the hoops of properly re-proving their need and renewing their benefits and still lose SNAP for a month or two because of delays in processing and "lost paperwork."

It's a system engineered to be as difficult to qualify for and use as possible, which is what always happens when you introduce means testing.
Thanks, Clinton.

>>21596439
Last time I renewed, I did it online instead of mailing in the paper form. Despite doing it weeks before the deadline, the renewal was still delayed by three weeks. No idea of what their internal processes are like but it's weird that paper forms are more reliable than the website.

>>21587075
someone told me if you inform them you are homeless, then they have to instantly provide your food credits to your account. do with this information what you will.

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>>21597370
You have to get a registered shelter to sign off on your declaration of homelessness. Probably not terribly difficult but do you really want to go spend a night at a homeless shelter to get money a bit quicker?