>fasting>exercising>still fatSo this is 30...
>>21598803most people I know who fasted and stayed fat weren't actually managing what they do eat and end up going overboard; what do your meals look like?
>>21598806>fasting
>>21598809what about on non fast days dipstick you can't go water one day and then eat twelve loaded pizza tacos the next
>>21598809>2 months into fast>still look like thiswill I make it bros?
>>21598803Skill issue.
Pro-tip: Amphetamines.
>>21598803how long have you been doing this? a week?
>>21598803You didn't fast, and you can't out run a bad diet.
>>21598803you must be slowing hehe. try drinking some water and maybe you will lose that spare tire haha
Limiting refined sugar to one treat a week caused me to lose 70lbs. Fuck all the pseudo science "source my ass" diets, there's only one that works and that's the don't eat junk food one.
>>21598866drinking water causes you to weigh more because of water retention
>>21598803Are you me?Jokes aside, I've been on Wegovy since July and it has been working so far along with not drinking. It's reteaching me how to eat, as I get full with smaller portions. Secondary effects have been manageable, the worst being sulphur burps when I overate for some reason.
>>21598875my god you fat people and your bs excuses. okay try drinking lard then jesus christ on the fucking cross you people are insufferable
>>21598823>amerimutts really be the fattest
>>21598803GET FUCKED OLD MAN!
>>21598875what are you actually supposed to do then, if water is so bad? if a big fat fuck doesn't get mentally broken by not eating and not drinking to stave off hunger, they're absolutely going to pig the fuck out when they do eat
>>21598803Walking is not exercise
>>21598803You can't build muscle while fasting bro. If you want to lose weight, gain muscle. All you're gonna end up doing is making both food and exercise miserable for you, and you'll never be and to keep up this diet and lifestyle. Even if you do lose a some weight, you're gonna rebound hard and gain it all back. Stick with a 500 Cal deficit, and eat your meat and veggies.
>>21598803I am on day 7 of my water fast, although I don't wage so I got a massive advantage. My record is 17 days. Either you aren't fasting long enough, breaking on huge meals, or just eat like shit in general.
An acquaintance of mine, a nutritionist, told me there's one guaranteed way to lose weight but no one in an professional capacity can advise itBuy some liquorGet drunkSkip dinner and go to bedYou don't have to do it every night, it will start adding up
>>21598901He never fasted at all.
>>21598803You body fat is a battery, you are simply consuming more calories than you spend even if you are fasting you can still eat four pints of ice cream and a Big Mac in 2 hours every night.
>>21598916I am sure. I think its a combination of the 3 I listed. Fat people will make any excuse.
>>21598803just give up and start eating goyslop, still watching your figure after your 30s is for women and gay guys, our 20s is our prime looking like oiled up no shirt sexy gay twink years, our 30s and 40s is about being a big gross fat guy with a guy who sits on the poor smoking cigars and drinking beers all day.
>>21598952>big gross fat guy with a guybig gross fat guy with a GUT*godang autocrorrect
>>21598952who is that child predator looking fuck in that pic lol
Protein is all you need for weight loss. Hungry? Have some protein, any form really, it just needs to be as pure as possible (i.e. lean meat, tuna, protein powder, lowfat quark, etc). Instant long-lasting satiety. It takes effort to digest, so you don't even get the calories you eat out of it. Obviously, don't gorge.
>>21598902A nurse gave me non-medical, medical advice once in passing kidneys stones: 6 pack of coors lite. Passed em that night.
>>21598814>loaded pizza tacos
>>21598976I did that once but I didn't know I had kidney stones and it passed while I was on the US-Mexico borderI thought someone fucking stabbed me in the back
>>21598803Do you fast by skipping breakfast and lunch and stuffing yourself at dinner?Just cut out all refined sugar, stop drinking anything with calories and be mindful of portion sizes.
the nuclear redpill is to donate blood. your body goes into a massive deficit and your resting heart rate and metabolism will increase for a while afterwards. i have internal bleeding and i literally can't gain weight even if i drink heavy cream
>>21598875Holding water weight isnt a bad thing. Fat people think it accounts for an extra 50 lbs, but in reality you'll shed most of it overnight and won't even really notice the retention unless you're competing in body building
>>21598803I have lost 55 lbs since mid May. And im 40 years old. So please. How does your fasting work? It's clearly not working so it must need unfucking.
>>21599369>How does your fasting work?he probably pigs out on his refeed days
>>21599373Personally if I dont refeed very clean and careful I get a little sick. Or uncomfortable at least. And completing a fast downregulates my appetite substantially for a good while afterwards. OP you really fasting? Or did you fall for the intermittent meme?
>>21598803You have to be strongfat or mixture of swole and dad bodLooking like Cristiano Ronaldo In our 30s Is kinda cringe
>eating as much as I feel like>snacking between meals>still skinny
>>21598803Your retarded 'get-rich-quick' scheme of a diet plan won't help you. That's some fat bride trying to fit into the dress by Sunday shit. Whoever sold you on the new-age idea of losing weight by not eating for days on end is having a laugh. Just eat LESS but eat every day. That will help you lose the weight. Something is seriously wrong with you and you need to speak to a doctor instead of trusting the fucking internet to make choices about your health. God damn you people are fucking doomed.
>>21599018This. There are a few sensible answers ITT. Fasting is stupid. It's for protest and shit, not reliable weight loss.
>>21599485fasting is the best way to lose weight, but the problem with fasting is that fatties have a lot of junk in their fat storage. once that rapidly gets released into the blood stream by the big calorie deficit, then they feel bad. almost all of them do not have the mental strength to keep on going, so they give up and go back to their old life. this is probably why you seem to have better success with eating less since it lets you develop that habit of eating less over a longer period of time. you slowly forget your fatty ways
>>21599018>stop drinking anything with caloriesWhat about milk?
>>21599536No it isn't. You aren't overweight and never have been.
>>21599125Now you might be onto something here but where do you even go to donate blood? Those red cross blood drive things don't exist in my area lol
>>21599125>i have internal bleedingThat doesn’t sound good, are you okay?
>>21599629you can either go visit some clinics and ask if they would take a blood donation, get some blood work done, or bleed yourself if you are manly enough>>21599644i have ulcers
>still fatYou're not in a calorie deficit simple as. You're also not actually using all of your calories. They don't reset to zero at midnight either. What's your diet consist of? Your digestive system may not be digesting your food efficiently.
>>21599664it's ulcmaams now
>>21598878please don't say that anon
>>21598875Weight doesn't matter, bmi does nigger. I don't understand why retards are so uppsessed with an arbitrary number.
>>21598875this is why i only drink soda pop so i can't retain it
>>21598803>be fat (70kg 165cm)>join gym>6 months pass>weight now 73kgAt least you're not gaining weight..
>>21599779>Weight doesn't matter, bmi does nigger.Damn obese body builders.
I just switch to 1 meal a day for a month or two if I feel fat. Just don't eat larger portions than a regular meal.I tend to pick late lunch or early dinner when I do 1 meal.
>>21599495>There are a few sensible answers ITTand somehow you still managed to post the most retarded response so far.
>>21600003Body builders are generally unhealthy as well dumb nigger, obese is obese you fuck wad
>>21600000
Because weight loss requires a caloric deficit, any weight loss plan that does not include calorie counting is severely flawed. Creating the conditions for a deficit often works on its own, but not always.
>>21598803>>fasting>>exercising>overeating as a result>why am I fatDumbass nigger
You will look and be fat untill you get at least below a certain amount of body fat.40 to 30% ain't shit visually but 15 to 10 looks like a different person
>>21598875Doesn’t water weight have more to do with salt consumption? And consuming water is perfectly healthy?
>>21598803You have to do the 20/4 intermittent fasting if you are really overweight. Its the only way to see real results without waiting years. And you really have to stick with it, no cheating. And its going to suck.You can only eat in that 4 hour window. You will literally shed the pounds in 3-4 months.
>>21598803So much misinformation in this thread, starting with OP
>>21598803I have to opposite problem. I'm always too busy to eat and eat like once or twice a day and I'm trying to gain weight. How many times do you eat a day?
>>21598895Why can't I build muscle if I eat only during the hours of noon to 8pm? If I eat healthy and at a surplus but fast the rest of the day. This is a genuine question
>>21598875the only people who said this bs to my face irl were fatties lmaoo
>>21600768dr now gaming, water retention is a fucking meme i mean those desert people are some of the skinniest people in the world and they HAVE to drink water or the sand will dry them up like jerky
>>21598875unless you're drinking literal gallons of water at a time, you'll "retain" that water for like 30 min then your body will use it or turn it into pissand if drinking water is "bad" for you, then please, enlighten us as to what we should be drinking instead
I eat one meal a day and I'm still fat.
>>21600925>I eat one meal a day and I'm still fat.
>>21600925
>>21600925Calories don't reset to 0 at a certain time
I bike to work and eating healthier/less and its working for me
>>21600090ThisWhen losing weight, I aim for eating my BMR and exercise gets me in a deficit, and if you fast you do not eat more when you break your fast than you otherwise would, you eat the same regular mealYou need to really police yourself and eat things that are satiating, that doesn't mean you can't eat bacon for example but you need to control the portion ie you only eat a slice or two and mostly just to oil up the pan, and you really can't eat processed foods with simple carbs as you will feel miserable and not satiatedFor me I have one large meal and a couple smaller meals + drink some whole milk kefir and that is all the calories I can consume a day, I weigh my ingredients and note the total calories in each dish I make
>>21600777 WITNESSED
>>21598875yeah man you have 300 pounds of water weight you figured it out
Wow what an informative and useful thread.
>>21599752Lol
CUT OUT CARBS AND SUGAReat only meat and drink only juice from a juicer (yes buy one it's easy to use). consider this, every fuckin house has a microwave, toaster oven, conventional oven, but same cannot be said of a juicer.juicing is how it's done. thank me next month if you do it. takes at least 1 week and you'll feel better.
>>21601307Juice isn't even good for you, eat whole fruit, and you don't have to cut out all carbs just simple carbs and be disciplined in your complex carb consumption
one of my favorite OMAD meals is 6 jumbo eggs scrambled with 2 tbps butter and a pint of full fat cottage cheese.>100g protein >80g fat>20g carbs>~1200kcalsdon't eat this every day though.
>>21598803Have you tried not being so god damn fat?Old people aren't always fat either, you think they fast and diet all year around at 80?
>>21598803I got a source for tirzepatide real cheap, I bought 600mg for about $350, lost 100 lbs in 7 months, hit my goal weight, and now still have 240mg of tirz leftover. I cod have gotten away with spending $200 I bet.
All I did was CICO and CD. The first couple of months sucked a lot but now it is fine.
>>21598803Take acetyl-L-carnitine, but it will give you neurotic thoughts.
I'm baffled at "people" who eat 3000+ calories in a day.
>>21601475Obese people have a higher TDEE. It's why they tend to drop a shit ton of weight in a short time when they do keto: they get full by volume, but are still in a calorie deficit. It's expensive though.
>40>still have all of my hair>still get horny everyday>best shape I've ever been in>100%'d Silksong when everybody else is complaining about their reflexes and it being too hardgood genetics, don't eat absolute dog shit, exercise, get lots of sleep
>>21601508Now do 100% steelrun big boy
>>21601511I wanna wait for some updates to make things more interesting, then I'll do the speedrun and steel soul cheevos.
>>21598809Faster
>>21598803Eat hight carb, low fat, moderate protein and spam cardio every day. There's a reason cyclists are lean.
>>21601508based dilf
Turns out listening to grifters and intentionally starving yourself doesn't do anything.
>>21601630Fasting does work, you're just too weak willed to follow through, and so disdain itYou shouldn't fast too long, nor overeat when you break your fast, it's that simple
I think being fat or not depended entirely on how big your dinner plate was growing up. Like, I'm skinny and I'd have a steak, a baked potato, and some french bread and I'd be STUFFED afterwards, that's a big meal for me. Meanwhile, certain obese family members would have steak, TWO potatoes, bread, and additional sides, and they walk off with all of that like it's a normal portion.
>>21600811heh, this lightweight probably measures his water in cups. men drink gallons.
>>21601655>men drink gallons.men measure in metric and drink in kilotons
>>21601650That's kind of how I was when I was a bit younger and overweight. Some of my family members would eat a normal plate of food and seem satisfied but I was always eating multiple plates. But I've also been underweight and malnourished at other times too.I don't seem to digest starch well and that has been linked to obesity. People who don't digest starch well aren't getting any energy or nutrients from it, but they can still gain weight if they eat it with fat and sugar. And at least in my case it was causing digestive issues and making me deficient in electrolytes and other things which eventually lead to malnutrition. Of course there are a bunch of other reasons someone could become overweight. Stress is another big factor, sleep deprivation causes binge eating, processed food, or simply poor choices. But since I started taking some supplements to fix the malnutrition and cut out starch my issues seem more stable. I get sugar from milk and fruit mostly and then some more from added sugars but my weight is stable at a normal level and I don't have such a strong desire to overeat anymore.
>>21601671For me it was eating processed goyslop as a kid, or drinking a lot as an adultIt’s hard to become morbidly obese if you eat well, you need concentrated calorie sources daily to reach that level of obesity
>>21598803Unless you are strength training cut carbs to less than 30 grams a day also consume 1 gram per pound of body weight, animal proteins have much better amino acid quality and are better incorporated into the body
>>21602349*1 gram of protein per pound of body weight* fatty fish is preferred but white fish is fine, red meat and organ meats beats poultry but poultry is fine, eggs and whey protein isolate is amazing, take carnitine and creatine, the best aerobic exercise is swimming, supplement vitamin k2 and d3
>>21602355Supplement electrolytes, potassium gluconate or chloride preferably gluconate but if you broke get chloride since table salt alternatives like nu salt are potassium chloride and are really cheap, magnesium glycinate, and I prefer to use iodized sea salt but normal iodized is fine, also if you have a significant other try to make love and be more affectionate more often as that lowers cortisol which is one of the factors in weight gain
>>21602349>Unless you are strength training cut carbs to less than 30 grams a dayyour brain and muscles will still use much more than that even if you're sedentary
>>21598803just dont drink alcohol and soda and stick to your regular portion sizes and you'll drop weight doing literally nothing. I've lost 15k since April doing nothing but playing video games just cuz I have a little bit of willpower.
>>21598803>Tanking his metabolismLet me guess: You get less than 8 hours of sleep too?
>>21598803If that's teh case contgratz on breaking the first law of thermodynamics. Can I use your thyroid as a revolutionary clean energy contraption?
>>21598803>eating like a hog>still have absSo this is having Chad genes
>>21601532>There's a reason cyclists are leanYeah, but the reason isn't "eating high carb" (kek). They eat carbs because they burn thousands of calories per day. And they eat tons of proteins too. They can basically eat whatever they want, dine at fast foods, and they will be lean due to gigantic energy expenditure.The answer for mere mortals is:Skip sugar drinks and make a vegetable stew (with just a bit of carbs like potatoes, rice or beans - you can eat bread but not too much of it - and a bit of meats) your staple. You can eat as much cabbage as you want and you will be still losing weight :P Cycling surely is a highly recommended exercise for that.
>>21605652>They eat carbs because they burn thousands of calories per day.Maybe per session, route, course, or whatever they call it. Simple, sugary treats with minimal to no fiber or protein burn quick and replenish your glycogen. Not as small meal replacements that give you "long lasting" energy. It's energy that you'll feel right fucking NOW.
>>21598803>fastinglolLearn to eat better food in smaller quantities and you will lose weight. Fasting as a low impulse control person (which all fatasses are) will just have you binging on slop "as a reward".
fat is stored as fat most efficientlythe least efficient macro to be stored as fat is protein because first it has to be converted, second is carbs because its also convertedbut unlike carbs, protein is first used for muscle repair, and then the leftover is converted to be stored as fat, its also worth noting that protein and carbs are both around 3.5-4 calories per gram while fat is around 8-9 calories per gram.studies have also found that protein and fiber are the most satiating foods/macros.so ideally you want a calorie deficit (around 250-500 less than your tdee), and for your diet to be made up of mainly protein like 95% lean ground beef, chicken breast, and fiber like potatoes (with skin), vegetables etcfoods like tuna, egg whites, no/low fat yogurt are great for this too.but the main advice is to calculate your tdee, cico and all that, make sure youre actually in a deficit.
>>21605820dont forget for overall health to maintain your vitamins, minerals, electrolytes, hydration etceven if you have to do multi-vitamins and shit
>>21601475It's really easy.Just eat an entire pizza (2250 calories) then drink 2 liters of soda, (1000 calories) and you're already at maintenance for anyone over 300lbs.
>>21606376Man, that used to be every other Saturday for me about 20 years ago. I peaked at 266lbs in 2009 before doing keto.
>>21598803What type of exercise are you doing? I've lost a lot of weight since the height of COVID and +50lbs in the last year and a half. I was told that weight is lost primarily in the kitchen and not the gym but I've found this isn't totally true in my experience. What worked for me was hitting a nearby rec center (somewhere VERY close and accessible above all else) and finding something there that you can do every single day. Every day. For me, it was picking table tennis and badminton back up after being a drunk for the prior decade. Once my nerves were back in working order, I had actual fun and looked forward to going out and doing something like that each day. It became an anchor and a great social experience. I'd spend an hour or two minimum essentially doing cardio every day and then started tacking on mandatory breakfasts which prevented me from binging mega meals later in the day. That also helped a lot. Even just keeping some bananas, clementines and cereal around works great if you're short on time. But it's crtitical for not tricking your body into gorging itself later. I'm 185 (with added muscle), down from 253. 36, no loose skin, strongest/fastest I've ever been AND was drinking myself to death two years ago.
>Follow diet>Losing weight>But I feel like shit
>>21598803>he fell for the fasting memeretard, go to the medic and check your hormone system and levels of vitamins and minerals, get the results eat accordingly
>>21598803bro? you're either hilariously miscounting calories or you're building muscle while also losing fat so it's cancelling each other out. Your best bet is to measure yourself if your weight is staying the same. I also suggest counting calories if you aren't already. even free myfitnesspall is better than nothing.>start at 255>drop to 190>covid happens and i gain it all back>say fuck this last year>165 right now but been steadyi think my issue lately is i'm eating too much salty shit and not enough water. I've been at 165 for a few weeks now, but i dropped from a consistent 174 to 165 last month, it was a hard drop. literally 3 pounds each day for like 3 days it was awesome.
>20 year old metabolism>only half-assedly excercise, but have a lot of hobbies which involve moving aroundI literally have never had to worry about weight loss, I eat like a fucking pig, and I'm still a THINcel, barely breaking 150 pounds
>>21605721>>21605652What you are describing is ease of conversion to energy. Carbs are very easy to use and will be processed preferably. Sugar is already in a ready to use form hence it's quick blood sugar bump
I will bless you all with my forbidden knowledge: frozen fruit. Frozen bananas taste and feel like ice cream. Frozen mangos, pineapple, grapes, and dragonfruit are like sorbet. Don't thaw it, just eat it frozen. It is refreshing and satisfying. A small bowl will be 50 calories MAX and will satisfy you completely as a sweet treat after dinner. No prep required, could not be easier to eat. Oh and btw, you're also getting plenty of free vitamin c and some fiber with your treat. Literally zero processing.Pic related bowl is probably 30 calories. Accept God's gift.
>>21598952Just eat less everyday, idiot. Cheat days are what's keep them pounds on your gut, you big backed bastard.
>>21598803>still fatWhy not just be fat? Because dipshits will clown on you? I'd rather be fat than torturing myself like this >>21598809 Eat healthy foods and exercise if you're concerned about your health. If you're morbidly obese, you'll lose health naturally doing that, even if it'll be extremely slow. And if you're not losing any weight, it's probably a medical problem you might want to get checked out. Either way, fasting and exercising is a bad combo.
>>21607189I like mine with a tablespoon or two of yogurt, just enough to slightly coat it.
>>21607189Frozen fruit and really cold milk is amazing.
>>21607216>>21607246Based frooters
>>21600003BMI doesn’t apply to 0.01% of the population, for the rest, it’s just cope. You’d have to be extremely muscular for muscle to “weigh” more than fat
>>21607377I know but I thought I'd bring it up before someone else did. Someone always brings it up.
>>21598902A bottle of liquor is like 1500 calories
>>21598902That sounds super healthy
>>21598891It is
>>21607212>if you're not losing any weight, it's probably a medical problemthis is my favorite cope. somehow these fatties bodies don't adhere to basic physics
>>21599590Fine in outmeal or as part of a dish, but don't drink it to sate your thirst.
>>21600003Your knees get fucked from 100kg of muscle just as much as from 100kg of lard.
>>21608179The muscle you build in your legs supports your knees so they don't get fucked. Leg muscle mass is an extremely high predictor of how fucked and immobile you end up in old age.
>>21598803your metabolism doesn't magically slow down after your 20s, you are just retarded
>>21608182The bones still have to hold up the weight. There can't be that much muscle around the knee, or it wouldn't work well.Point is, bodybuilders push their bodies beyond what the body evolved for. Muscles are great for you and being in shape has many health benefits, but only up to a certain point.
>>21598803nobody cares you fat fuck imagine looking at your fucking lard ass in the mirror and actually believing it's somebody elses faultwho put the donut in your mouth retard
>>21598875>drinking water causes you to weigh more because of water retention"Water weight can fluctuate by 1–6 pounds or more in a single day"Yeah, 6 pounds, so stop accounting your 50lb lard ass to 6lb of water, fagot.
I fucking hate fat people
>>21608179Oh yeah, definitely. Who's that body builder who walks with a cane?
>>21598953Nipe. You revealed yourself as gay. Go suck dicks and make an OP. Tradition demands it.
>>21608350Ronnie Coleman
>>21598803don't eat fat. eat fibrous starch. one serving of whey powder for protein. use aspartame to make starch taste good.beans and bread is a good meal. quick soak beans for 1 hour then steam in a pressure cooker for 12 minutes.
>>21608197>bodybuilders push their bodies beyond what the body evolved for. Muscles are great for you and being in shape has many health benefits, but only up to a certain point.I think that's less of an issue with natural bodybuilders. Excessive repetitive motions with heavy weights can still cause injuries but your muscles getting as big as they'll naturally get shouldn't be so excessive and against what your body evolved for. It's when people start using steroids and stuff that more issues start appearing.
>>21607049>lose weight>no more fat on thighs to support balls when sitting>have to sit in specific ways or balls get uncomfortableEvery day I ask myself, was it worth it?
>>21608012That’s actually what I would do. I literally use junk food to cut weight.
>>21608012Eat nothing but ice cream for a whole day, lose weight. Eat normally for a day and junk food another day. Lose 1-5 pound.
>>21609355>Every day I ask myself, was it worth it?Me too. Though my problem isn't lost fat for ball support, but diminished libido.
>>21609355i just tape my balls to the back of my knee, problem solved
>>21598803>fast, diet, exercise >lose weight over many months>skinny but still kinda fat>just look weak with clothes on and skinnyfat without >take a break from diet for a week>months of progress lost, back where I startedSo this is 40...
I read the Didache and decided to fast on Wednesday and Friday (to differentiate from the Jews). I don't eat anything all day then after sunset I have a small bowl of plain lentils cooked in chicken broth. Feels good.
