Any tips for a fruit, salad, and lean meat diet? /fit/ sold me on it. 0 fats and carbs, all fruit fiber protein. I was thinking of making big containers of fruit salad, regular salad, and shredded chicken bowls with low-fat sour cream and hot sauce.
>>21601723Are you leaning more towards bulking, losing weight, or just being healthy in general?
>>21601723why would you do thatyou might get sick of raw vegetables because they can take longer to chew and digest. you could just take whatever vegetables you want and bake them until cooked to your liking. keep it covered during baking if you want them softer and uncover if you want it to brown.it'll probably taste okay for a bit but you need fat and carbs for health and energy. testosterone production requires fat intake. muscles work better with more carbs.
>>21601723>fruit>no carbsanon..
>>21601723In Thailand they say if you want to lose weight, eat som tam.Som tam is a salad made from papaya, bean sprouts, sometimes rice noodles and chicken, prawns, crab, herbs and many other ingredients. But the most important ingredient is the papaya.The papaya (especially green papaya) contains powerful digestive enzymes that help break down fats and proteins. You could eat one or two big som tam salads every day, with beef or eggs or chicken for protein, maybe some rice.And you will lose a lot of weight. The protease enzymes from the papaya have a tremendous effect on abdominal fats. It's also naturally low carb and high fiber.It's a fruit salad + meat combination exactly like you described OP.The thais are a naturally fit people.Because they eat som tam.
>>21601723You don't even know the first thing about nutrition if you think fruit if just fiber and protein, it's first and foremost sugar and that part of the reason it's healthy. On a high sugar fruit, low fat, low protein diet you will lose weight fast and become dangerously thin like all fruitarians.
>>21601723You need to eat saturated fat anon
>>21601723>I was thinking of making big containersFor some people having food premade and ready to eat makes them choose to eat better. That is some of the same rationale behind food prep. Personally, I always have 1 nice salad in the fridge. It's usually fruit salad, chicken or egg salad, or taboulleh or other grain salad. Cucumbers are my favorite thing.I'm not a fan of restrictive diets that eliminates whole food groups. Since you are a newb, maybe look into a plan that measures your intake. Getting it wrong can be frustrating when you work so hard to do changes for a loss and don't reap the benefits. A good start for low carb/high protein with some moderation is South Beach diet. It was a modification of Atkins.
Complex carbs are fine anon
fruit is carbs
Just count your calories retard
>>21601728fat loss and insulin resistance>>21601731>you need carbswrong, you get energy from sugar. the human body needs 0 carbs>>21601904different carbs for different purposes that affect insulin and weight>>21602031the protein comes from lean meat>>21602270that works for general weight loss, terrible for body health. look up high sugar protein diets. Fruit+chicken is the easiest way to do it but I wanted to see if anyone has been on it for longer than 3 weeks. It's just an alternative to keto without stuffing yourself with greasy fats.
>>21601723>0 carbsnot possible with fruit, unless you mean complex carbohydrates. Fruits have a decent sugar content.
>>21601723fruits arent as healthy as you think they are more or less just a bit better than straight up eating sweets.We selectively breed fruits to have insane amounts of suger to the point literal animals get fat from them In some zoos they stop feeding so much fruit cause the animals got fat
>>21601723Just eat once a day and stop drinking soda/sugary drinks fatass
My suggestion would be to keep the fruit amount of it fairly low if you're planning to lose weight. You don't need to be in ketosis all day every day. If you're a STANDARD MALE (TM), using 2000-ish calories every day, try to keep your daily intake in the 1500-1800-ish range, with a cheat day or two that doesn't take you over 14000/wk.Papaya, kiwi, and pineapple as the bulk of your fruits (the meat tenderizing proteins do seem to help with weight loss when eaten in sane amounts), chicken breast, leaner fish (a lot of white fish, salmon and tuna less so), and trimmed 'loin' for your proteins, lots of greens, lime and lemon with your dressings/seasonings,
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>>21602461>wrong, you get energy from sugar. the human body needs 0 carbs>different carbs for different purposes that affect insulin and weightGenuinely retarded or ragebaiting. OP, you already seem like the expert, so why did you even kill a fast food thread for this shit thread? Go back >>>/fit/
>>21602473Everyone who does a fruitarian diet ends up very thin. Humans in natural settings can eat lots of honey. Pretty much all evidence says eating more fruit only improves health. Like with anything else you can find evidence saying it's good or bad but I've never seen anything really saying fruit is bad with actual evidence.
>>21602461>wrong, you get energy from sugar. the human body needs 0 carbssugar is a carb. i dunno if you have carb mixed up with starch. starch and sugar are both carbs.
>>21601723eating just fruit is straight up retarded. It will fuck with your insulin so hard, which will make you really, REALLY hungry.
>>21601723>0 fats and carbs,>a fruit, salad,Here s a pro tip, if you want to avoid carbs, don t eat carbs. It s that easy.
>>21602604i find fruit pretty satiating. starch seems to make me hungrier.
>>21602590good luck to you if you think eating insane amount of sugar will get you to the promised land
>>21602670are the only choices thinking fruit is unhealthy or eating insane amounts of it?
>>21602670Any deviation from the modern American (I'm assuming) diet towards a diet centered around natural foods is an improvement whether or not its a fad meme diet. Godspeed, OP.
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>>21601723Enjoy your kidney stones
>>21601723OP, please include some carbs and fat in your diet, maybe even put them in your salad. You're already exercising, right?If you only restrict foods, you'll have 0 energy for just about anything, including rational thought. Eating disorders are the most lethal mental illness. Maybe consult a professional about your body issues. That's regardless of whether you're fat or not; fat people can also die of anorexia. https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2019/11/415871/anorexia-nervosa-comes-all-sizes-including-plus-sizeIf you're still determined to lose weight, regardless of how it will impact your health, at least try to do it slowly and gently...
>>21602473animals will get fat off anything if given enough. Their bodies process calories and store fat differently than humans.>>21602604won't grace you with actual links or videos, do your own research on fruits and insulin>>21602486thanks, papayas are hard to find but i'll get a good variety>>21602590also this. It's similar to Medd diet. I've never heard a doctor say 'you're fat, eat less fruit'>>21602618name 5 carbs in a salad or dtiydk>>21602670Yandex the benefits of high sugar diet>>21602715are americans so fat that they think going on a scientifically studied test diet for 3 weeks is a mental illness?
>>21602724>animals process calories and store fat differently than humans>do your own research>benefits of high sugar dietI hope this is an intentional shitpost but I don't think it is
>>21601723>that's only viable very short term as fasting alternative; researching optimal fruits is a pain in the ass; juice/blends greens for efficiency and get probiotics like kimchi/saurkraut in; keto green powders will be more efficient — Fat's irrelevant with keto, if you eat the good ones— the exception is high linoleic ones (Olive basically; this metabollically min-maxes fat burning). Keep it coconut or animal baser for simplicity and the quasi-fasting gains will take care of itself.For insulin resensitization: intermittent fasting and keto-ish is simple— but low sodium in itself drives and reinforces insulin resistance (one of the most invidious things about statins), and is bad for sleep. Good luck.
>>21602724>AmericansI'm German. >3 weeksIf you want to lose weight in those 3 weeks, maybe you can, but once you go off the diet, you'll gain back the weight from before and if you've starved yourself and it's impacted your metabolism, you may gain more weight than you had previously. Dieting only works if you do it consistently and heavily restricting your diet consistently can have a negative impact on your health... Especially if you want to do someting like going full frutarian https://www.europeandissemination.eu/a-diet-consisting-mainly-of-fruit-is-bad-for-you/14895>>21602590>you can find evidence saying it's good or badThis is true for almost every type of food on an individual level, but there's an overall consensus that you can always have too much or too little of almost anything; variety is key. There is a lot of talk that humans are eating too much or too little of specific kinds of food; too much junk food, too much meat, not enough fresh fruits and vegetables, the food pyramid is fake and had too much grain and dairy in it etc. but overly restrictive dieting that excludes entire food groups and isn't intended to treat specific disorders (e. g. keto for epileptics) is consistently bad for most people and can lead to eating disorders. For recommendations, I personally like the official Canadian food guide: https://food-guide.canada.ca/en/ It's simple and to the point. No need to eat every kind of food in picrel, it's enough to include at least something from each food group in your general diet.>ends up very thinVegetarians are also thinner on average compared to people who eat meat, so why not go there instead? Meat is a lot easier to replace compared to trying to replace everything with fruit.
>>21601723Fruits and vegetables arent 0 carb...>>21602461>different carbs for different purposes that affect insulin and weightLook up glycemic index. Some foods spike your blood sugar more than other foods. Glycemic index helps measure it. Carbs aren't inherently bad. They're necessary if you do any kind of high intensity exercise. If you're worried about insulin and blood sugar, just eat low glycemic index carbs.
>>21601723Cobb salads, Greek salads, "Asian" salads. Mix up your own dressings in a mason jars and add when serving. Easy ones are vinegret (honey, mustard, oil, vinegar, oregano) and ginger (ginger duh, sesame oil, soy sauce, garlic, honey). I've been making a sort of thousand island but using thick yogurt with vinegar/sour cream instead of mayo. Thin sliced cucumbers and carrots (length wise strips) with cabbage, corn, or any other veggies should make up most of the meal with just a serving of protein (shredded chicken, bacon bits, tuna, boiled eggs). You're going to be miserable at first so once a week replace the salad with a sandwich or pasta but stick with the portions all the same.
>>21603022I'd agree but let's look at low glycemic foods:>ice cream, spaghetti, jam, corn, udonhttps://www.verywellhealth.com/glycemic-index-chart-for-common-foods-1087476#:~:text=The%20GI%20is%20a%20rating,to%20have%20a%20lower%20GI.If I went off this, I'd want to keep it below 40 "GI"
>>21603139Meh. You just have to use your brain and your intuition. The amount of sugar in ice cream or jams can vary very wildly. I have no idea why they would categorize those as low GI foods.But if you stick with whole foods and minimally processed foods you don't really have to worry about that.
>>216017231. Fruit has quite a bit of carbs. Fructose self converts into plain old glucose (ordinary sugar) very easily in our bodies.2. You need fat to live.
>>21601723>fruit>0 carbs
>>21601723Why do people do these diets instead of just eating normal fucking food?
>>21603200Fruit, veggies and chicken are all fairly normal foods.
>>21603200>eating normal fucking foodI think you meant "eating food fucking normally"
>>21603286Eh, you never know
>>21601723Did you notice that most black females are obese? This is due to one thing: BBC. Balso note that the obesity rate in America is increasing in direct proportion to their craving of BBC. There's something in bbc that causes obesity. If you want lose weight, just eat normally but stop taking bbc
>>21601723you gotta get some fats bro. gotta oil your engine. just skip the saturated ones and do olive oil or avocado oil
>>21601723my builthrt does nothing
>>21601723Fats are okay, carbs are bad. Check out the keto diet. Thank me later.
>This is due to one thing: BBC
>>21601723Bro if you eat 0 fats and only lean meat with fruits you will have problems. You have to eat fat. If you just cut sugars/carbs you will lose weight. You need fat in your diet, especially if you cut carbs and sugars.
>carbs badImagine being this much of a ketoschizo that you aren't content just excluding food groups, you gotta exclude specific macro nutrients all togetherPic very much related
>>21603942>Fats are okay, carbs are bad.stop eating applesdrink soybean oil
>>21602461How tf is counting calories unhealthy? No guidance is provided in the amount of calories consumed, you aren’t going to wither away with a 100 calorie deficit
Real facts for y'all retards.All dietary sugar that can be used by the human body is basically glucose or fructose (or a combo of both, breaking down before the components are used).Glucose and glucose derivatives are the main fuel for every part of the body. Digestible starch easily turns into glucose within the body. Glucose does not easily turn into fat. Large amounts of glucose are stored in muscle tissue and never released back into the bloodstream.Fructose is processed by the liver and rapidly stored as fat. Refined fructose consumption is strongly linked to many ailments. Refined fructose is widely used in processed food because it is sweeter than glucose and is addictive.Sucrose is glucose plus fructose. Sweet fruits and vegetables contain varying amounts of all three - glucose, fructose, and sucrose - plus alcohol sugars which are not normally metabolically significant. These foods, in small amounts, are only considered to be healthy because their fructose is diluted by their water and fiber. Eating larger amounts of fruit can easily result in non-alcoholic fatty liver disease./fit/ tells you to eat rice, chicken, broccoli, oats, and gallons of milk - not fruit. You're confusing /fit/ with tiktok.
>>21604255>Eating larger amounts of fruit can easily result in non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.I doubt that. Fruit consumption being higher is pretty much always linked to healthier weights and less dietary related issues. If you have any evidence of this happening I'd be happy to look but NAFLD seems related more to obesity like pretty much any other dietary related ailment and the biggest factor in that is highly processed junk food.
>>21602038Doesn't it raise cholesterol though?
>>21601723>0 fats and carbs, all fruitfruit has carbs moron.
>>21602461>wrong, you get energy from sugar. the human body needs 0 carbsyour brain runs on glucose dingle berry>different carbs for different purposes that affect insulin and weightcarbs are carbs.
>>21602590>Everyone who does a fruitarian diet ends up very thin. Humans in natural settings can eat lots of honey.
>>21604255>Glucose and glucose derivatives are the main fuel for every part of the body. Digestible starch easily turns into glucose within the body. Glucose does not easily turn into fat. Large amounts of glucose are stored in muscle tissue and never released back into the bloodstream.correct
>>21603951Well I guess being slim inreases your chances to be on public TV
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>>21601723>0 fats and carbswhy do you think fruits are sweet?
>>21604953Got a study for fruit causing obesity?
>>21601723Your brain needs Omega 3. Make sure to at least put olive oil in your salad, eat fish, or take supplements at the very least.
>>21605188I have a feeling that your liver and pancreas would flee your body before you got obese on a fruitarian diet... but let's see what the old google turns up
>>21605188>>21605419In a cursory glance, a diet high in fruits looks like it will sate the average person before they ingest more calories than they're burning, but I'm not seeing anything yet about sedentary lifestyles or a 100% fruit / anti-keto diet. I do remember reading that Ashton Kutcher tried a fruitarian diet to get into playing Steve Jobs and it made him very ill - but jacking your diet quickly to what amounts to essentially vitamin C pills, metamucil, and high fructose corn syrup would do that. It will all amount to satiety and CICO. Your body will do what it can to maintain a sane blood glucose level and pH. If you're eating over your caloric expense with a fairly high sucrose diet, you're going to gain weight and increase your risk of the beetus. It seems like it would work best at a slight caloric deficit with a decent protein intake and a solid workout routine.
>>21605438Jobs was vegan, not fruit and protein. He wasn't even getting the nutrients from regular vegetables or eggs. And he died sickly and thin, not fat, and diabetes-free, because fruit doesn't make you fat.
>>21605463He was a fruitarian wasn't he? Probabaly heavier on the fruits and fasting than he should have been.Eating like a fat fuck makes you fat - it really doesn't matter what you're putting in. You probably could have gleaned that anywhere in this thread if you could read.
>>21604255>fruits and vegetables in small amounts, are ONLY considered to be healthy because their fructose is diluted by their water and fiberThey're healthy because they are choke full of vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, improve digestive health, reduce risk of chronic diseases etc. >/fit/ tells you to eat rice, chicken, broccoli, oats, and gallons of milk - NOT fruitAnd that is a great indicator of /fit/ knowing squat about nutrition>not seeing anything yet about sedentary lifestyles or a 100% fruit / anti-keto dietThis is strawmaning, instead of arguing about the general health benefits of fruits or lack thereof, the focus is shifted to pure fruitarians and trying to prove their diet is extreme. No shit Sherlock.
>>21606064Last part was about >>21605438
People will do anything except quit eating ultra processed junk and have an actual varied diet.
No bacon, egg, cheese on a roll this morning…Day 1 of an old school no-sugars, no-carbs, only healthy fats diet. 6 small healthy meals/snacks day and a lean and green (6oz meat and salad) at night. Not drinking much alcohol at all, so to quit altogether is no big deal. Back to Sashimi, and NO FOOD AT ALL AFTER 8pm.I’ve been feeling like ass since putting on 40lbs over the last 2 years…Lower back fucked up, can’t bend straight over to tie my sneakers without breathing hard, feels like I’m laying face first on a basketball if I try to get a tan on my fat ass…A high weight of 250 today folks. It will only go down from here.ANYONE CAN DO IT. Takes will power and the desire to feel healthy overriding the desire to eat food that tastes GREAT. I quit smoking and (backmin the day) blow…cold turkey. Just stopped at will.If you follow this plan and get your body into “fat burning mode” (takes about 2 weeks of hardcore diet adjustment) WITH NO CHEATING…and the weight will fall off of you like a terminal AIDS patient. (No offense AIDS patients….) Goal- 210lbs…PS- I cover my fatness up well. Being 6’ 1” helps big time.
