>molecular gastronomyhow is eating a bunch of flavor-injected foamy slop from a tiny plate a better dining experience than something like chili-plum noodlebox, a huge bowl of pho/ramen, trinidad goat curry or a juicy steak-frite with a mushroom-pepper gravy?Wouldn't you much more prefer a large bowl of carbonara or an assorted plate of southern bbq (with pickled onions and chili's on the side) over some scientifically engineered sensory indulgence that lasts 15 seconds? Who actually cares if you infused the taste of truffles into a quail egg?
Fine dining is a scam invented to extract disposable income from rich people, what else is new?
I refuse to explain fine dining to someone who turns it down because>muh quantity
>>21604013imagine paying $600 for an evening eating a bunch of meatball sized appetizers made with lab equipment
always with the foam
>>21604217Foams and jellies. The obsession with making food look nothing like food is kinda disturbing, as well.
Its fun to see what the chefs come up with aside from infinite agar spaghetti.That style of cooking you go for the experience and service not to fill your gutalthough if you get 15+ mini courses you will feel full by the end
>>21604008>>21604011>>21604015Working Class Conservatives>>21604013>>21604379Middle Class Moderates>>21604280Easily convinced of conspiracy theoriesMolecular Gastronomy is great because it manages to be a social indicator of politics. Shit's been played out largely, but for certain people it defines everything that upsets them about "society"Something new, unfamiliar and technologically based. It's the political wedge you didn't realize was a political wedge
>>21604466>but for certain people it defines everything that upsets them about "society"the thing is that they can't define why they hate it. they only hate it because people they hate like it. if tucker carlson opened up a fine dining restaurant with all the usual amenities you'd see in one, the right would be clapping and barking like seals over how based it is. you have to remember these incels here don't have working executive functions or critical thinking capabilities of any kind. they like what they're told to like.
>>21604466This poster has zero (0) Michelin stars
>>21604466poor and stupid
incredible insight bro. you might be the first person ive seen take down gastronomy as pretentious
>>21604008The kind of people who go to those sorts of places already eat those normal but really good meals you mentioned as their everyday, ordinary food. They occasionally go to the molecular gastro places for the novelty factor.
>>21604008its not meant to get you full, its for the experience. You can have a hearty heavy meal the next day
>>21604008The only good thing to come out of molecular gastronomy is spherification because popping boba is delicious
Every time someone bothers me with that shit oooh look MEAT FOAM and FISH JELLY I say "so it's like bean boozled?"
>>21605075Tapioca has been around for a lot longer than molecular gastronomy, Anon
when you have enough money that you can afford foie gras and caviar every weeknight, you crave some weird shit to excite your palate
>>21605153POPPING boba, retard. It's made with juice. I wasn't talking about the tapioca variety.
Even if I were the richest man alive, I'd probably never visit one of those restaurants. I'd take a nice pub burger or even McDonald's slop over that bullshit any time.
This is one of those things where if you don’t like it some people will always say “you just don’t get it”. Totally misguided and ridiculous and at least on this board mostly trolling, but there are people out there so far up their own asses that they actually believe itMost people aren’t interested in the hyper min max attitude of obsessively hacking to find the uber ultimate xyz. That’s how you end up drinking coffee a monkey shit out, tea wrapped in an orange peel and fermented in a goats vagina, quadruple dry hopped ipas, etc.At a certain point it becomes so esoteric and performative, and subject to financial and weird little subculture barriers to entry that it’s obviously not just about the food anymore but has become to varying degrees about their own ego and little clique.Nothing is really that bad about it, but the people involved do cross the line into arrogant delusion when they think people who aren’t interest in their gay little club are backwards philistines
>>21604008>how is eating a bunch of flavor-injected foamy slop from a tiny plate a better dining experience than something like chili-plum noodlebox, a huge bowl of pho/ramen, trinidad goat curry or a juicy steak-frite with a mushroom-pepper gravy?It unironically allows for more creativity. If you want something novel because you don't feel like more traditional cuisine that's when you go to a gastronomy place. Things that work really well eventually spread out into more mainstream places, like >>21605201>Wouldn't you much more prefer a large bowl of carbonara or an assorted plate of southern bbq (with pickled onions and chili's on the side) over some scientifically engineered sensory indulgence that lasts 15 seconds?Sometimes, other times not. In my experience, these sorts of places have at least 7 courses. If you're used to having like a bucket of KFC and a two liter bottle of mountain dew for a meal you'd probably be hungry after, but I can't say I've gone home hungry from one myself.>>21604466I think there's some truth to the idea that the poor want quantity, the middle-class want flavor and the upper-class care a lot more about presentation.
>>21604486>there's a chance this isn't b8
>>21604008>hates poems for the plot>hates paintings for not being photorealistic>hates roller-coasters for not hauling freightIt's just for fun. Sometimes people signal on the internet, but those people are retarded regardless
>>21604486>if tucker carlson opened up a fine dining restaurant with all the usual amenities you'd see in one, the right would be clapping and barking like seals over how based it isWould the current fine dining people eat at the same restaurants if they were cheap and mainstream?
>>21606021Rich people love cheap food because what's the point of expensive food if not compared to the cheap food. You get a Siddhartha effect of every meal is a perfectly cooked steak with an appetizer and dessert that push the boundaries of food, how are you supposed to know the steak is the best tasting cut, how are you supposed to know what boundaries of what food are being pushed. Donald Trump loves his McDonalds and Diet Coke.
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>>21604466sybau and give me more food
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>>21604008>molecular gastronomyAmericans can't understand this as a concept, they are more used to brand names and take aways, or just spaghetti and ketchup. Molecular gastronomy is an exploration of what can be done to often some mundane foods, it's not about stuffing your face with whatever is put in front of you but actually taking your time to enjoy it. Put it this way, If molecular gastronomy was japanese, there would be countless threads by americans about how good it is. I also note, that most Americans can't afford eggs or basic groceries, so it is no surprise that they can't afford to eat at these places, hence the derision.
>>21605341>This is one of those things where if you don’t like it some people will always say “you just don’t get it”.The simple fact is that almost every single person in this thread who has maligned it has never tried it. I'm not an advocate for it, I just know that they've not been near any of it.
>>21604466>Molecular Gastronomy is great because it manages to be a social indicator of politics.this nibba drinks nitrogen energy drinks and thinks he's above everyone else
>>21604008 growing up is realising McDonald's is better than this.
I went somewhere one time that had a molecular gastronomy focus and one of the courses was a "deconstructed hot dog", essentially they smeared ketchup and mustard on a plate and cut up a hot dog. It was stupid and pretentious. They had some freeze dried ice cream side that was good though.That said I got laid that night which is the primary purpose of fine and novelty dining establishments.
>>21604008Molecular gastronomy isn't just about foam. It's just about viewing food from a scientific perspective. For example how do you cook the perfect egg? can the egg that you make usually be done better? what can I do to change the texture to my liking? testing and trying different things until you get the desired result. Chinese food is molecular gastronomy with the application of MSG. Pho/Ramen is an application of molecular gastronomy by mixing monosodium glumate (kombu) with inosinate (bonito flakes).
>>21605375>the upper-class care a lot more about presentation.That's because at fine dining good flavour is a given and quantity is just a matter of ordering another dish.The poor-brained fags who seethe over portion sizes simply can't conceive that you can order more than one plate.
>>21607746that man looks like an alien with those glasses
i've worked in places that do molecular and fine dining shit and even though its not my choice for an expensive dinner, one really understated aspect of these places is how their techniques trickle down into regular restuarants and make food better as a whole. most places wont be serving waldorf salad lollipop anytime soon but heston vastly upped the quality of chips and stock production throughout uk restuarants for e.g
>>21604008>Wouldn't you much more prefer a large bowl of carbonaraTime and place, man. Sometimes the experience of a nice multi-course french style dinner is a delightful couple of hours fun surprises! It's also nice to have reasonable portions that don't fill you up, so the wine flight can keep going and going and going...
