I dont care about none of that global warming scaremongering or peta noncesense. I am just interested in which animal gives the most bang for the buck.
chicken or rabbit maybe
I prefer beef but for price and protein it'a chicken
>>21620015Pork.
>>21620015How much land and money do you have?
>>21620015>which animal gives the most bang for the buckThere are whoremonger threads on other boards
>>21620015It's always going to be chicken. They reproduce at a crazy rate. You can use them for meat and eggs. The egg factor is something none of the other animals have. When an easily manageable animal provides food without having to die, it's money in the bank. Cows have milk, but that's a hell of a process and they are huge animals.
what they're saying, for the non knowers, check this, a chicken lays an egg a day, when I found out my mind exploded pretty much
Cow gives milk which unlocks the cheese tree.
>>21620015Cows and pigs if you have the property. Ducks/geese/chicken and/or rabbits if you don't.
I love pork but I wouldn’t be eating a Lil Porker that I raised.
>>21620015Pigs for meat only, cows if you're lactose tolerant, chickens if you're doing small-scale farming
chicken/poultry I imagine strange as I dunno how there is so much [relatively] cheap turkey produce available in my old-world yurofag country there are chickens fucking everywhere when I leave the city and am in a rural area but I've never seen a live turkey in my entire life or even know what they actually look like other than just vaguely 'giant chicken'yet every poultry section in every supermarket has as much turkey produce as chicken that clearly comes from .. somewhere>actually just air-fried a bunch of turkey thigh mince meatballs earlier as it happens that I intend to snack on over the weekend
>>21620374I streamer I watch names his livestock after horrible people to make slaughtering them easier. His pig is named Miss Pigton after Robert Pickton.
>>21620015I have pigs, chickens, and cows. Experience with sheeps and goats.Chickens came out to around 10 dollars per 4-5lb bird, and pigs came out to around 3ish dollars/lb cut and wrapped. Pig would be closer to 2 if I used more bulk feed, but I wasnt able to because of logistics. This will vary depending on whede you live, of course. Id imagine the cost ratio would be similar.Chickens are going to be more work than pigs, but you get meat in 8-12 weeks depending on breed. Spent about 1 hr per day doing 400 birds in chicken tractors with 1 other person.Pigs take like 8-14 months, but are easy to raise as long as you have good fences. I spend about 10 minutes feeding 10 adult pigs and 30 piglets a day if they're happy. This will go up a bit once I het my rotational pasture installed, but not by much. 10 full sized pigs per acre is a good number for rotational pasture.Any ruminant will become very expensive if you cannot bail your own hay, so keep that in mind.
>>21620452not OP here, one of my life dreams is having cows and have them pasture in semi-free conditions, in the mountains for the summer and plains for the plains for the winterI don't know anything about animals, what can you tell me about this?
>>21620458go to a nearby agricultural college and take some classes, what you're suggesting isn't something that can be taught over a couple forum posts
>>21620466I'm not asking you to teach me, but what can you tell me about it
>>21620458Definitely possible. Cows need a lot of land. Start by learning how to ride a horse lol. You'll need a good way to move them through tough terrain.I only have 4 cows that I keep on a few acres. Feed is annoyingly expensive right now, but I get milk from one and the others will be for personal meat, so in the end I'll probably save a little money on meat.
>>21620479I don't even want them for the meat and milk, I just want to have cows for the hell of it, milk and meat would simply be a plus, I kind want to have something like 15 cows or so, sell most of them for meat, while also taking some meat, so have them pasturing all of the time, I guess despite that you can get milk from them, right? milk cows are like a special species that can be locked in a stable and be milked almost perpetually or how does that work?
Cows just seem extremely expensive and time consuming. You don't even get milk unless its pregnant. What a pain in the ass. I'd rather just have chickens and bees.
>>21620492>You don't even get milk unless its pregnant.I'm sure there's a hack for that that the milk farmers are using
>>21620495yeah they get pregnant once a year, then are sold for meat after a few years once milk production slows
>>21620485Meat cows are worthless for milk. You need a milking breed. If you're doing small scale milking you need to halter train the cows or will be nearly impossible to milk them. Buying a calf at auction then bottle feeding it is a really good way to get an easy to milk cow.>>21620495>>21620492Cows are a pain in the ass and very expensive if you dont have a lot of good forage for them, and it is still expensive because youll need to either pay someone to do the entire bailing process, or buy/rent the equipment and do it yourself. A cow will remain in milk as long as it is being continuously milked, so usually you give the calf a couple months before weaning it and then you continue to milk thr mother everyday and she will keep producing. 6-8 months is as long as you want to milk them for and then you have them get pregnant again to repeat the process after they give birth.Our jersey cross milking cow gives us like 3-4 gallons per day.
>>21620516the thing for me is that I don't want a cow to be in a stable, I guess It'd be silly to have cows and not have a milky one, but that's definitely not my main goalI guess I just want to reproduce my experience of seeing cows in the mountain freely pasturing on the plains, that blew my mind as a kid
>>21620535If youre rich anything is possible!Depending on where you live there may not be enough quality feed during the winter. It may also be too cold and youll need to provide shelter for them.If you look up numbers on feed costs for cows you'll see it adds up really fast. You can exceed 1000 dollars per cow per year if you have to supplement during the winter.
>>21620015pigs, take up less space, eat anything, get fat quick, taste incredible.
>>21620549>if you're richnot there yet, and I might never be, but is at no cost to dreammy idea about feed is pastures, winter and summer pastures, as is tradition in the land I come from, when I say pastures I mean pastures, like grasslands
>>21620015cows and chickens no question, but i'm like >>21620374, i could never
>>21620374Keep momma pigs, and a daddy pig then eat their offspring at all stages of their life. That's what Im doing. Dont get too attached before their first birthing because they may be terrible moms and youll need to cull them.I think this one may have eaten 4 of her 6 babies, but Im not positive. She will get another chance because I think she looks really funny.
>>21620015Fuck off with your AI slop.
Fooking COW>meat>milk, i.e. CHEESE>can ride it>can pull a plow>bones can be used as a club>goes MOOO
>>21620015That's a very piglike cow
>>21620108Yay duck anon! How are the ducks doing?
>>21620108Duck is one of the best meats on the marketI don't know why they only sell duck in some spots in AmericaOnly the French or Chinese sell duck but it's fucking delicious
>>21620015The farmer. No form of chattel is more versatile, economical, or provides you with superior nutrition than human beings toiling under serfdom for your sake.
>>21620015Chicken give eggs and meat, eat both plants and bugs and need a little space. Pigs breed like crazy in a year a sow can breed and can have multiple litters per year, also they eat anything, they provide meat and a lot of lard. Sheep are herbivores so they need grass, so during winter it can be tricky to feed them, they give meat and milk, but both can have an odd flavor, also you get wool. Goats are same as sheep, without the wool but are more hardy. Cows give the most meat breed slowest and give milk, but they need grass and they need it more then sheep and goats. So what are the best for you? In my opinion it's chicken and pigs, both are omnivores, fast breeds and have secondary products that you can use, also they don't need a lot of space.
>>21623243The ducks are doing great. As long as you keep their diet proper, they are a very hardy bird. I got rid of two drakes to reduce the rape factor. So they are even more happy than the last time I posted them.
-Quail has the fastest turnover rate for meat-Ducks are hardier than chickens which can potentially make them better egg layers. -nigerian dwarf goats take up about as much space as a dog and pump out a quart or two of milk a day. -angora rabbits produce an incredibly warm type of wool
>>21623906Do you have a dog to protect them or do they sleep in an enclosed area?
Chickens are actually terrible. People just see that there are thousands of chickens in some factory and cages and decide that keeping chickens is easy and effortless.Incubating chickens is a pain in the ass and then you need to keep the little chicks alive which is a pain in the ass. Leave them with the grown chickens and they'll be dead. Leave them fenced in some barn and rats will eat them. You'll have to keep them in your house and make sure they don't die from shitting in their water and food.Now they are grown and you have a place to store them, you have a piece of land for them to eat grass and a place to sleep. Now they get parasites on their talons that disfigure them and cripple them so you need to treat that. Now you have a red mite infestation and the parasites drink so much blood the chickens get pale and don't want to move. You bought your insecticide and your diatomaceous earth and you finally got rid of the parasite infestations. Now foxes show up and eat all your chickens so now you need to get hunters to sit there at night and hunt foxes.And the worst thing of all is that those chickens fucking shit everywhere. Everything covered in shit and the shit becomes hard. You have to get rid of it and it smells like death.And all that for 1 (uno) egg a day per chicken. Assuming the chicken even lays eggs and isn't sick or old and just freeloading getting free food and laying no eggs.
>>21620108If you don't live in an arid shithole or overurbanised bugland, then cows can eat grass and it's free (of course you would need to have land/pasture/grazing rights)
>>21620807>Pork fed porkThis sounds like the Kobe Beef of pork.
>>21623937Dog sleeps inside on the bed. Ducks sleep on the ground outside. Although they stay awake most of the night doing duck stuff. Chickens perch all over the place. There are no sizable nocturnal natural predators around here. And the roosters wish a nigga would anyway. I only have my 4 OG birds locked up. Because the rooster from that bunch would love to kill you.
>>21625511Kek, I've had 4 roosters in my life and 2 of them were the spawn of the devil.
>>21625528All of his male offspring are so sweet until one day you go outside and they are mean. His female offspring are nice, large, and lay a lot of eggs. So I keep letting him reproduce.
>>21620492What does bee taste like?
>>21626587Ammonia mostly
>>21625155Sheep and goats also graze and are smaller.
>>21620015To raise? Unequivocally and without a single exception is the chicken. They can eat anything even invasion weeds. So as long as they have the area to roam you never have to waste money on feed for a smaller operation. 500 chickens will locust comb your land though obviously but 20-25 won't. They grow very quickly. They fuck constantly and reproduce so they are self-sufficient as you cull the older ones that no longer lay eggs. Fucking eggs. Add a few roosters in and they protect the entire flock and will go toe to toe with a fucking coyote and kill it or pluck out it's eyes if it's females are in danger. Pigs and cows can do some of this too but require far more upkeep and feed and cannot forage without much more land. Plus if you lose even one to sickness it is a huge hit to your profits/y2y results. If you want to keep chickens in a much smaller area you can supplement their feed for practically free. Get a 5 gallon bucket with a lid. Drill a bunch of holes in the lid and the bottom sides of the walls. Throw absolutely anything that rots in there. Left over food, scraps, roadkill, dead chickens. Flys come in through the top and lay eggs. Maggot develop from whatever garbage you previously tossed in there and wiggle out through the holes in the base. They drop to the ground and are obvious eaten by the chickens. It is incredibly efficient although be warned. It is the fouled smelling piece of property you will ever own. Good if its a decent distance from your resident but not up against the siding.
>>21626587pain
>>21620015guinea pigs
