I keep hearing vegetables are really fucking bad for you That's the carnivore dieters being retarded right ? Or is there some truth to it ? It's hard to shit bro please help Feels like I'm giving birth the the fucking Cosby kids every time I shit family...
>Brassica>High toxicHighly retarded, it's just about the closest you can get to a purely "healthy" food
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>>21631058If you eat vegetables, you'll literally die, dude. Be careful. Better keep eating red meat exclusively.
>>21631058>That's the carnivore dieters being retarded right ?Yeah, carnivore and paleofags spout that bullshit all the time and often mention antinutrients and pesticides.
>>21631058>I keep hearing vegetables are really fucking bad for youYou people need to stop living on crazy person YouTube. The next time someone tells you not to eat onions you should stop giving them any attention. It's possible to eat healthy AND enjoy it AND not have it be some strange jenga thing.
>>21631058They can be for some people, sometimes. I don't digest starch well and nuts/seeds sometimes upset my stomach a bit. But I don't have issues with cabbage, peppers, onions, etc.This guy is trying to act like an authority but his own views change at times. He used to be pure carnivore then shortly after said he has milk and fruit and honey and it wouldn't surprise me if eventually he does start eating vegetables again.If you have issues then it can be worth doing an exclusion diet to try and figure out why, but no food is generally bad for everyone, just different people have different tolerances for things. I used to poop so much all the time and it was uncomfortable because I wasn't digesting starch so I'd basically poop out as much as I ate but since giving up starch I've been doing a lot better. If you're pooping a lot that could be a reason why, or if you're just constipated you could be overeating or have low potassium or be dehydrated or eat too much dry food or a bunch of things.
>>21631058>That's just carnivore dieters being retarded right?YesThe primary benefits of meat and dairy are the sheer density + bioavailability of beneficial nutrients, the high amounts of protein for athletes, the presence of some beneficial supplements that are really hard to get in a vegetarian or vegan diet, and the delicious flavor they add to your diet.Fruits and veggies (mostly) aren't bad, it's just that fruits have a lot of sugar and veggies just aren't meat and dairy. Leafy greens are dumb but plenty of cultural staples like corn, potatoes, onions, garlic, tomatoes, etc. are pretty competitive depending on your diet though
>>21631058>That's the carnivore dieters being retarded right ?correct. They get scurvy like pirates lmao
>>21631058Why can't this fucker just make a similar chart showing what we SHOULD eat?
>>21631130>it's just that fruits have a lot of sugarThat's only a bad thing if you're completely sedentary or diabetic or something, higher fruit consumption is pretty much always linked to better health>Leafy greens are dumbWhy? Not even for health reasons but i just really like them and crave them sometimes.
>>21631171ANIMALSFRUITMILKHONEYEGGSDIRTTHE SUN
>>21631058Most of the things he has listed are also toxic to gut pathogens: the type of parasites you can get from eating meat. Carnivore diet helped me to realize there was something else inside me that was craving sugar, and it wasn't me.And that's when I started an anti-parasitic diet instead. It's been rough but I have killed most of them I'd say. (They really hate watercress and pumpkin seeds, both on the list)
>>21631058The gentleman in your pic is particularly retarded. Of course veggies are good for you, but fine, keep eating like a carnivore. That's butt cancer. If you're gonna pick an extreme then go vegan. But omnivore, and moderation in everything is where it's at. None of this is news. Stop falling for predatory vids.
>>21631210>The Sun = High Toxic
Maybe you would shit shit rather than shit family. >>21631115>paleofagsI thought Paleo were all about veg, just not starchy ones. An ex of mine did Paleo before we met. Hard to believe she was a fatty but I saw the pictures and I've seen the scars from the skin removal. Anyway, she loved green veg and pretty much only avoided grains and potato. Also dairy because Paleo folks didn't have dairy and because she's Cherokee IE lactose intolerant lmaoHer mother was very, very, very fat >>21631117>You people need to stop living on crazy person YouTubeThen how will orangeman stay in power?>>21631223lolwut
>>21631130>Fruits and veggies (mostly) aren't bad, it's just that fruits have a lot of sugarSugar is just energy. It's associated with negative things because isolating it and trying to digest large amounts of isolated sugar is taxing on the body, but everything refined sugar is linked to, fruits are linked to the opposite due to their other nutrients and they total package they deliver. Plants are so complex that even the color pigments in a fruit influence how the sugars are digested and what effects they have on your body.
Just eat, drink, smoke, and inject whatever you want. Most people who do so are fine and live long. If you don't and die early at least you don't have to go to work anymore. I'd rather die young than be on guard for 90 years about microplastics and whatever nonsense these healthfreaks come up with "X AND Y NOW ALSO LINKED WITH CANCER"
>>21631130fruits also usually have lots of fibre that helps with digestion
>>21631397Fruits also contain proteolytic enzymes which helps break down and digest protein such as meat.The best fruits for protein digestion are papaya, kiwi fruit, pineapple, figs, mango and to a lesser degree plums, grapes and citrus.
>>21631209>higher fruit consumption is pretty much always linked to better healthThis is a bit of a chicken and egg problem. The purported health benefits of fruit are so widespread that people who are health conscious are actively opting to eat more fruit. Then studies show that people who eat more fruit are more healthy - of course they are, if people who make en effort to be healthy eat fruit then you're going to see a correlation between fruit and health. Doesn't mean the fruit are the reasonI'm not saying that fruit are bad for you, but nutrition is an extremely shoddy science that has trouble proving anything. Sure they harp on about antioxidants, but as far as I know to this day nobody has managed to prove dietary antioxidants actually reduce the population of free radicals in a living body
>>21631456>if people who make en effort to be healthy eat fruit then you're going to see a correlation between fruit and health. Doesn't mean the fruit are the reasonAside from the glaring circular reasoning issue, you're preemptively dismissing the possibility that fruit might actually be one of the causal factors while also not posting proof for the contrary>as far as I know to this day nobody has managed to prove dietary antioxidants actually reduce the population of free radicals in a living bodyThis is a logical jump. The evidence for direct free radical reduction from dietary antioxidants being complex and debated in the scientific community is not proof of it's absence
>>21631670>you're preemptively dismissing the possibility that fruit might actually be one of the causal factors while also not posting proof for the contraryI'm not, I'm dismissing behavioural correlation studies because they're circular. Fruit may be actively good for you, or they may not, I don't find the existing science on the topic sufficient to weigh either way.Fruit are certainly more healthy the store-bought ready made processed food and fast food, but I find the evidence questionable on whether eating fruit actively makes you healthier.
>>21631670>Aside from the glaring circular reasoning issueThat was his point. Science surrounding nutrition is horrifically circular. Using the exact same criteria they use to come to their conclusions, I can "prove" that carbs, refined sugar, processed foods, animal fats, seed oils, high protein diets, low protein diets and overeating do not make anyone fat.>Italians, Koreans and Japanese ready high carb; aren't fat>Danes eat more refined sugar than any other population on earth; aren't fat>Japanese, Taiwanese and Koreans eat more processed food than any other groups I've ever come across; aren't fat>etc etc etcThe main thing that fat, developed countries seem to have in common is speaking English. Speaking English makes you fat.
>>21631679>I don't find the existing science on the topic sufficient to weigh either wayObservational studies aren't the only evidence. Controlled trials where scientists actually give groups fruit and measure specific changes, plus mechanistic studies are also sources proving fruits benefits.
>>21631117I'm probably late to the party here but I've stopped getting worked up over the rise of the mindless drooling mob and the decline of the intellect as ruler of humanity. I've resigned myself to the fact that 3/4 of humans will have been taken out by a super plague made by a 12 year old through DNA vibe coding while the latest schizo in charge of the federal pro wrestling homeland department of war is too busy sending masked goons recruited through a video game ad placement to shoot anyone wearing an unloicensed mask (you must be a deputized member of a christian nationalist militia to hide your face).So I say bring on the retardation. Broccoli is the most toxic substance known to christianity, did you know it's not natural? Vegetables were created by atheist liberal science doctors in a CDC lab at the end of the Civil War as a plot to sterilize the proud White race! Actually, children should only be force fed cat food from a can until they are at least 15, this will prevent the woke mind virus from transing them!And so on, humanity has demonstrated that it's not up to the task of surviving, so let's cede this planet to the cockroaches or algae.
>>21631719Observational studies are what most of nutrition is based onMechanistic studies are a sham. By cherrypicking what chemical processes to include and to exclude you can "prove" just about anythingI don't know of any notable controlled trials regarding fruit (or hell, nutrition in general). If you are aware of any scientifically sound controlled trials I would gladly read them, but for the love of god please don't quote anything measuring "all-cause mortality". No amount of scientist will convince me that you suffer fewer car accidents if you eat fruit
>>21631347Pathetic TDS shoehornWhy do retarded aging lesbians come here?
>>21631761Nta but it's kind of hard to talk about idiocracy tier food schizo theories from the internet without touching on the topic of orange man considering he's literally installed a twitter schizo to take over public health policy and fire all the woke scientists, maybe next time vote for someone who didn't ride to power on weaponized stupidity if you don't want to "make everything about politics"
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