400$ for a Le creuset or 30$ for a lodge?
I see you nigga and I am posting my same response.I have a bunch of Le Creuset and I love them. If you don't want to spend the money on LC and don't want the weight of Lodge, deBuyers makes a great carbon steel lineAlso if you DO get Lodge don't be one of those faggots who never uses acid or seasons it 4000 times with rapeseed oil before cooking on it: its a hunk of fucking metal, just use extra fat, clean it and store it dry>muh seasoning flaked offSo redo it.
>>21653064Le creuset of course.
>>21653078It's fine, I fully admit to accidentally posting on /v/, and not being able to delete it was incredibly infuriating. Thank you for reposting. I'm definitely going Le creuset, I have a 2k order I'm going to drop as soon as my check clears. I made the thread for cheap fags to post their opinions
If you can afford it, the $30 lodge
>>21653094Based poorfag cope baiter.
>>21653064for dutch oven I think lodge and le creuset do quite the same thing except le creuset looks nicer.for me after using a shitty saute pans for so long I slurped on the D3 all clad skillet set for less than 200 cad. it has been a great investment ever since.imagine buying hundreds to thousand in steaks per year and cheap out of the pan.
>>21653108I love cooking omelets in my D3
>>21653094Glad I can help I love mine. I went Cerise and have a 9qt and 5.5QT DO, a 10" pan, a balti, the 3qt (+/-) braiser and the tagine. Also treated myself to a fig DO and a pot in the new 100th Anniversary color. They're absolutely worth it and they look great to serve food in. I'm eyeing a paella pan next since I love paella. Poorfags will cope by talking about how you can't throw it in a campfire like their bare cast iron ones.Here is Sgt. Providence inspecting the fig.
>>21653094if you have to wait for a check you should not be buying $2000 worth of anything.
>>21653064I like my lodge skillets and sourdough bread pan, I use it for frying too. Le Creuset for enamel dutch oven. Staub for cast iron dutch oven. All-Clad for basically everything else. Honestly, my de Buyer is probably my least favorite in a home setting.
>>21653126poorfag cope
>>21653143if you weren't poor you wouldn't have to wait for a check to clear.
>>21653144stop seething and get a job
>>21653151I have a job and more importantly am financially stable. That is why I do not need to wait for a check to clear to make purchases. This is exclusively a feature of those who live 'paycheck to paycheck' aka poorfags.
>>21653100>>21653108Now something I will be cheaping out on is going to be my oven. I fucking HATE glass top ranges so I have to get an electric coil top range. The goal will be to have a basic no frills stove and maybe save up for a genuine French induction oven>>21653126It's a check for 50k. I'll be paying off all my debt and doing upgrades. This is a lifetime investment in forever cookware that I'll take care of. Dilate.
>>21653155what are you even planning on buying. Do you even know beyond just going for the brand name you think holds the most clout?
>>21653064Is Le Creuset really worth the 10x premium for enameled cast iron? I don't own one but I'd probably just buy pic related and not worry too much about the enamel inevitably chipping.
>>21653122Oh you should show us a picture of the anniversary sparkle. No one has been able to capture it but you can do it. I have a 9 qt oval on my list for roasting big meats, and I'm trying to decide if I need a cassoulet or not.
>>21653159Yes. Next stupid question?
>>21653159Not really. I have some. Can't tell the difference between it and my lodge. It's not even like stainless where you get different ply and such. It's cast iron and enamel and there's not much difference.>>21653163What's the difference?
>>21653166The price, the quality, the warranty, the colours, the manufacturing process and the prestige.
>>21653166Oh and the poorfag cope and seethe it produces.
>>21653158I'm trying to buy a pot for everything I need to make my own stuff. I already bake my own bread and will be upgrading my shitty kitchen aid to Pic related, and
>>21653160It is literally impossible to catch the sparkle, each "flake" is like 1/10th the size of a standard piece of glitter. It's almost like that "shine" you see in fiberglass.The handle is 11/10 though I think you can buy them individually for your other lids too
>>21653183>I'm trying to buy a pot for everything I needHow many pots does one need? Seems like one good dutch oven would do, and have a way better time with some stock pots and the like.>>21653180there's the real reason.
>>21653185Hm should I get the sauce pan in that sparkle or will having one of the set be different annoy the shit out of me
>>21653200All of my pieces are in Cerise (5.5 and 9qt DO, 3.5qt Braiser, 10" pan, balti, tagine, soup pot) except that and the fig one and I don't care. its going to be all about your own flavor of tism.
>>21653122Sgt Cat bummed that with his NCO pay grade he can't afford Le Creuset even at the PX with no sales tax.
>>21653190I need a fry pan, stock pot, and a sauce pan to boil water and smaller amounts of vegetables and the like. Finally I'd like a 9 qt for large chickens and cuts of meat for roasting. It's infinitely easier to have the proper size pans in reach than trying to do it all with one.For your gratification however, here's the cheap ass stove I'm eyeball fucking. Coil tops have no issue with cast iron and I can't fuck g stand glass top after 13 years with one. If anyone has an electric solution better than this I'm all ears.
>>21653213yeah glass top sucks ass, agreed.>I need a fry pan, stock pot, and a sauce panyeah, do you really want those to be enameled? That's a nah for me. If not, like, why Le Creuset? Stainless steel is just way nicer to use for stock pots and sauce pans, and for a fry pan both a stainless and nonstick (cast iron or carbon steel is the way to go imo) is really a much better time. Like, Le Creuset does sell that stuff but most that's not enameled cast iron is made in China, Thailand, somewhere not France. So why pay Le Creuset price for something they didn't make?
>>21653234They aren't that terribly expensive and don't they still come with a lifetime warranty? I also like supporting a company that pays a living wage it it's employees
>>21653252>don't they still come with a lifetime warranty?Not everything does. Some have a 5 year warranty, some have a 10 year warranty, some of their pans don't list a warranty at all but have a 90 day money back guarantee. It seems their stuff that's actually made in Europe (Portugal and France) generally has a lifetime warranty. >I also like supporting a company that pays a living wage it it's employeesI think that's totally fair, which is why I'd advise only buying their items that are made in a first world country, because you don't outsource to China to pay someone a living wage.I'll admit I did not know some of their stainless stuff is made in Portugal, that does not seem a bad price, it's only a tiny bit more than other stainless pans made in Italy and the like. I was under the impression it was all made in China, Thailand and the like until looking it up just now so I was wrong about that. Stainless is way better than enameled in anything you will be scraping or whisking, because you run a good chance of damaging enamel doing both of those.
>>21653281I'm upgrading to all wooden and silicone utensils so I'm not worried about damaging the enamel. Having a consistent enamel across the board will force me to be careful with all of my stuff to the same degree. Finally, theres a 30% discount when you spend over 1k and use the code buildaset, so I'll be getting many of the items for lower prices. In fact, I'm saving so much money with one big order on the website I'm basically getting a 9.5 qt oval Dutch oven for free.
>>21653292>I'm upgrading to all wooden and silicone utensils so I'm not worried about damaging the enamelShit is going to stick on the frying pan if you go enamel. It's going to happen.
>>21653294You WANT that a bit tho for browning bits when doing glazing!
>>21653298For sure. You don't want it with eggs, or potatoes though. So if you cook those, well good luck.
The point of $400 enameled iron is to show you're "into cooking"It's better than lodge, but more importantly, it demonstrates that you are better than lodge owners
>>21653301Thats what nonstick cooking spray was made for.
>>21653309Good luck with that.
>>21653310Look I've been using visions glass cookware for five years, which is exactly the same as enamel because they both glass. The only flaw was that I broke two of my glass fry pans last month, and they aren't replaceable in today's market. That's why I'm going for high quality Le creuset. I can assure you that Pam non stick spray works fine for delicate fried eggs.
>>21653314Have you been to goodwill? They don't make anything less than the retail price for items now. They have gone insane with the prices
>>21653183Oh look, the cheapest and worst spiral mixer sold right now.
>>21653323Oh yeah? America's test kitchen rated it best three years in a row. What's your grand alternative?
>>21653318Ok, when they stick and burn remember to just get either a cast iron or carbon steel pan
>>21653330https://pleasanthillgrain.com/famag-im8-spiral-dough-mixer-variable-speedJust don't be a poor retard
>>21653373That would be on the table if it dough were the only thing im doing, but I want to do cookies and shit too. I definitely don't want another underpowered tilt head device I already have an underwhelming kitchenaid
>>21653064Le Creuset isn't high end, it's mid-tier. Staub is high end
>>21653394>tilt headYou get what you deserve Enjoy your swedish garbage
>>21653172>and the prestigeholy cringe
>>21653155Why are you getting a check for $50k? Is this sustainable? If not, pay off your debt and save the rest. I make over $200k a year and would never spend that much at once on cookware.
le creuset is $200 in europe and lodge is $150
>>21653373You are not very smart.
>>21653499You also probably already have everything unlike the OP poorfag
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>>21653064They go on sale all the time. There's no reason to pay full price.
>>21653525Its too bad it cut off before his wheel fell off.
>>21653536I am unable to find the gif of exactly what I want and we are at the mercy of what's readily available
>>21653482Is tilt head that bad? I don't have that brand but I got the lift head Kitchen Aid because people said the tilt sucked, what exactly is wrong with it?
>>21653569Its just underpowered, has less of a capacity, and it's engine dies quicker too now.
>>21653569Ankarsrum has the motor underneath the bowl which makes it stay in place easier, and you don't have a limit on the speed for dough, unlike kitchen aid.
>>21653587>and it's engine dies quicker too now.>engineit's an brushed AC electric motor
>>21653473Staub has garbage handles and weighs more, while being basically the same as Le creuset
>>21653522No, I don't have everything. If I did, I'd be poor.
>>21653612Maybe English isn't his first language, but his English is better than your skills at his language. A gasoline-powered car in the United States has an engine. It's valid to call it a motor. This might not translate across other languages. Be considerate!
>>21653638Staub has lid nipples, which help with moisture distribution.
>>21653656>>21653638Also because Staub is heavier, the lid can allow for higher pressure inside and thus it doesn't lose as much moisture as Le Creuset.Generally, it wont matter significantly but those are two points that you can test yourself and easily see the difference. Both Le Creuset and Staub are high-end cookware on a similar level.
>>21653610The motors location also heats the bowl up as well, which is bad.
>>21653660I can see that being fine for stuff like bread dough, which yiu want to be proofing and rising anyway. A regular cake or cookie batch with the wire whips won't be under enough strain for that to matter either
>>21653656Also: you can put your ceramic cup of coffee on the lid to keep it hot while you're cooking. Try doing that with Le creuset :)
>>21653666No you don't want that while mixing and the fact that you think you do means you will never use your mixer anyway.
>>21653685Bitch I make pullman loafs every two weeks. The mixer wouldn't heat up until you get to the beating stage, and even then it's only for about 8 minutes. Then it has to rise. Give me a break.
>>21653694>I make wonderbread at homeThat's really cool, but when you bake real things you don't wish to raise dough temperature while mixing, some things are so sensitive to it that while calculating how much water you need for the recipe you account for ice added while mixing.
>>21653843Yes yes, I'm sure the heat of the bowl would just ruin every artisan loaf. That's why so many people over 60 years hate that device. Get real
>>21653996There is a reason no professional mixer has its motor below the bowl. Once again, enjoy your swedish garbage
>>21653064I paid like $40 for a tramontina from Costco, good purchase
>>21653394If you’ve got room to spare I’ve been casually looking at the government surplus site and see used Hobart mixers (of varying condition) pop up on there that end up selling for about $500
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>>21653064I just took the staub pill for $300I like crustey’s light interior, but I like the feature of the dimples on staub’s lids, and the interior finish appears to sear better in side by side tests. I think they look better too
dunno if i can justify $400 for food on any levelit won't make my food taste $400, i'm still buying budget cuts and reheating canned stuff
>>21654322Thank you, Eric Butts very cool
>>21653108>pan frying all your steaks.reminds me of that bleak time in my life when i had no grill
>>21653996I love my ankarsum. Far superior to kitchen aid
>>21653638I never had any issues with Staub's handles, it never even crossed my mind because it's a non issue. The weight is a good thing as the walls are significantly thicker (4-5mm) which is the whole point of a dutch oven otherwise you could just use a normal pot. Other than that like the other anons said the nipple lid is really effective and Staub's enamel coating is MUCH better, more robust and not as fragile as Le Creuset's coating, this is really important long term and it allows you to use high temps like to bake bread without damaging the coating. Of course you can do that with a Le Creuset too but the coating will fall apart within two years tops. That's why Staub is a tier above Le Creuset
>>21653159No, they're 10% better for 1000% more money.Most luxury goods operate in this way.
>>21653064I love mine. That said if you can't afford just buy offbrand. If you really want the brand tty and find a seconds store. They will sell le creuset that have very minor imperfections for a sizeable discount.
>>21654553I might buy a single Staub just for bread baking. Then try it out on other stuff occasionally. I am other wise a Le creuset whore
>>21654553wait a minute. I understand lid nipples for keeping meat moistened, but do you really want constant dripping over your bread? I know french ovens with moisten with a mist but I don't imagine a constant drip from staub nipples is the same?
>>21654887Anon, it traps in already existing moisture.Unless your bread dough is soupy, there should be only a minimal amount of moisture inside the dutch oven when the bread is baking, you wont get anywhere near enough moisture to drip water all over the bread.Also you uncover the bread for the final 5-10 minutes to give it a nice crust, which removes any excess moisture.With meat you tend to be braising (cooking in stock/wine/water) and the meat itself has moisture content too, which gives a LOT more moisture inside the dutch oven than baking a loaf of bread.Pic related, bread I made in my Staub.
>>21653183I like my kitchen aid whats your problem
>>21654921Alright that makes sense. I get a similar quality loaf out of my le creuset however, so I think maybe spending for an extra whole ass dutch oven just for bread probably isn't going to be worth it. The Tea Kettle that staub makes might be worth my time, however. >>21654934Kitchenaid is fine for cakes, cookies, and other lighter style baking. But it fails when you try to mix dough. Doing a large pullman loaf my dough kept climbing to the top of the beaters (until I bought an aftermarket, non-climbing spiral dough hook) and you can only run it for like 4 minutes with heavy mixing. You can basically kill a kitchen aid with bread dough that needs a lot of kneading.
>>21653213Whats the point of buying all this expensive cookware when you cook on an electric stove like a poor retard?
>>21654939I mean, yeah. Staub won't make a significant difference for making bread.It does make a minor difference in braised shit, but even then it's not noticeable to most people unless you were to directly compare them.
>>21654940Well, you have a better, non glass top range option? I can afford one. But I like coil top because I can have cast iron with no issue.
>>21653064Just wait for Staub to have a sale, you can get a 7qt for under $300, sometimes under $250. You definitely get better performance and looks with Le Creuset but at $400 you’re mostly paying for looks, especially when Staub is only $50 more and actually performs like top commercial cookware
>>21654953Just get gas like a real human.
>>21654973Condo's can't do gas anon.
>>21654973If he doesn't have a gas line to his house, that could be an absurdly expensive proposition.Either buying a gas tank to keep a supply on site and pay for refills regularly, or if there is a local gas supplier, paying to hook up your house to that line, which could easily be 10's of thousands of dollars, depending on the locality and where the existing gas infrastructure is.
>>21654975Condos can 100% do gas anon.I live in one with gas. YOUR condo might not have gas, but that's got nothing to do with it being a condo.
>>21654979Good point. MY condo can't do gas. So if you have an electric, non glass top option, I'll listen to your suggestion.
>>21654963I got my 7qt staub in matte black for $199 on a sale a few years ago.Goes well with my 4.5qt staub I got for $99 during COVID.
What molcajete do you guys recommend? I have used a mortar and pestle I got off of amazon but I wonder if these would be good. I want to get one from my mom - do you guys use these? Do you have a recommendation for one that's perhaps the best you can find? Thanks
>>21654983Exactly, I bet on black Friday you could still find one for under $200.
>>21654983>>21654963>>21654987I'll probably wait for black friday and get 7 or 8 qt. staub. I'm also getting a 9 qt oval le creuset for chicken and large cuts of meat, so I'll be able to directly compare.
>>21654934The tilt heads struggle with heavy doughs, ops solution is to get a shitty swedish mixer to solve his problems with his wonderbread.
>>21655000Just keep in mind the Staub will improve with seasoning. Mine is more non-stick than my non-stick pan
>>21655093how? it's enameled, not raw cast iron
>>21655038retard
>>21654975>>21654977Sounds like poor fag cope to me.
>>21655122then why did my staub get more non-stick with use?
>>21655153You probably just got better cooking with it
>>21655153Staub's interior is slightly rough compared to Le Crueset.
>>21655162>>21655164oh...
>>21655126Eh. You can say "poor fag cope" while talking about your 10k French gas oven that looks like it belongs in 18th century Versailles. But unfortunately, if you don't already have gas, electric has limited options if you dislike glass top. And I hate glass top.
>>21655187>10k French gas ovenWhy so cheap?Pic related isn't even the most expensive version the side tables are like $20,000 each and the hood above is another $25,000-30,000.
>>21655199Because that wouldn't fit in my condo? Also I definitely couldn't afford it anyway. But first is the fact I don't gave space, gas, or money for it. Why is it a poor fag cope when it isn't even a realistic option
>>21655205I'm just giving you shit for saying that $10k was some absurdly expensive oven.
>>21655206It was just the first thing I thought of. Honestly, an electric French induction oven in that price range isn't out of the question. I just don't want glass top
>>21655125>don't you dare insult my swedish housewife mixer! Faggot
>>21655199mmmh, nickel
Got this baby for $20 3 years ago. I bought it for bread baking but I cook with it regularly. It does a great job.
>>21655230They offer stainless steel, brass, bronze, copper, and nickel.They also generally offer both brushed or polished for all of those.They also have over 100 color options for the body of the range. I think the nickle is only offered on the "Château Suprême" model, though.
>>21655234They sure are beautiful. But, I'll be happy with my 900$ coil top range. The equipment will be high end, the stove will get the job done until I get around to replacing it with something high quality.
>>21654939>>21654943I would only consider buying a Staub for making bread if you don't want to destroy your Le Creuset enamel slowly with those high temps because the Staub is basically indestructible. Maybe a different size, just wait for a sale.I don't know about the tea kettle but keep in mind that some Staub products that aren't dutch ovens are Made in China. All the regular dutch ovens are Made in France obviously but not the tiny mini "dutch ovens" that look like toys for example
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>>21655248I want to buy a terrine pan from Staub but I'm not sure if it'll give me anything better than the pyrex container with aluminum foil that I currently use
>>21655248>>21655251OK good, it's made in France. Anyone own one? This is the only thing that I think Staub has on Le creuset that's a 100% improvement. They have enameled covered steel and Staub is cast iron. I don't really care if it takes a few extra minutes to heat up on the stove top. Does anyone have one? Would you recommend? I could even take it camping and it would perform beautifully. I would mostly use it to heat up tea and pour into a porcelain teapot however.
>>21655248>destroying Le creuset with high tempsGenuinely disconcerting. I have been doing sourdough boules in my Le creuset Dutch oven. Are you saying this is bad for it? America's test kitchen said it was the best for bread baking. I will definitely buy a Staub just for bread baking if it genuinely means I'm ruining my flame Le creuset.
>>21655258It is in no way "worth" the price, but it's a VERY nice tea kettleI don't have one, but I have a similar cast iron enamelled tea pot that's vintage in my grandmother's collection that i've used and it makes perfectly fine tea. If you just want s a fancy tea kettle, by all means i'm sure it'll perform great. But you're not getting good value for your money, but if value isn't a concern then who cares?If you like it, buy it.
>>21655264I currently own an electric stainless steel tea kettle and my number one issue with it is it lives on my counter top. I'm looking to do cast iron on my stove top so I can put the tea kettle on my cast iron shelf tower. I have worn out one electric kettle, I'm hoping that the Staub would be the last one I would buy.
>>21655258LC: for their kettle? I don't see why you wouldn't be able to use it in a camp fire versus the Staubalthough I do think the Staub is better built, plastic handle and exposed screw/rivet on the LC looks badStaub spent the effort bending metal for the handle, LC has visible fasteners that I think doesn't seem like a """premium""" product
>>21655262>>21655248From what I understand, both Staub and Le Creuset are limited by their lid handles.Staub is 500F standard, Le Creuset's lid has a black knob that can only do ~400F, but they also have metal knobs that will do 500F like Staub.Staub, I believe says their Dutch ovens are good up to 900F without the lid. Le Creuset doesn't have a temp range listed for thiers without the lid.Also because Le Creuset has a white interior the higher temps used for baking can cause discoloration if any oils are present, as they'll polymerize to the surface whereas Staub has a black interior making it a non-issue.Conversely, the white interior for Le Creuset can help you observe browning of meat, which can be a benefit for some people, though the black interior of Staub supposedly allows for a higher searing temp and thus a slightly better sear on your meat compared to Le Creuset.These are all generally pretty minor differences in use, though and they can generally be treated similarly during use.
>>21655258Why not get a japanese tea kettle? They spezialize in that and I think some of those kettles look much better, won't take forever to heat up either. The real good stuff that is Made in Japan will be more expensive than the Staub though
>>21655290NTA, but my grandpa had a collection of various tea making accesories including a few of those japanese iron tea pots (and some chinese clay ones).I think they're still stored somewhere in my grandma's basement i've been trying to figure out what to do with them.
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>>21655306And here are a few of the clay onesI think most of them are fairly cheap shit, but some of them seem nicer than the others.
>>21655305The green one is cool, it has soul
>>21655323If it's 100 years old and Japanese it literally gains a soul according to shinto traditions
400 for Le Creuset? More like 20 bucks for a dozen items from a spic yardsale that didn't understand their worth. Still my best score ever
>>21655278All the Le creuset I have have the metal knob so I guess I'm set. They definitely do that oil discoloration thing but I'm buying the Le creuset cleaner to take care of that little issue
>>21654963>better performanceBetter performance in what? Everything I've seen has showed little to no difference between any model of dutch oven.
>>21653064I got the "made in the U.S" enameled cast iron from Lodge because they stopped production. It's worked pretty well for me. They still have some in stock on their site but you're probably better off getting one from someone who will still be able to fulfil the warranty.
>>21655574I bought a le creuset 5.3L dutch oven for a friend without doing too much research, but it had a 400/450 phenolic handle on the lidthey didn't care, but I felt bad since there was a 500 degree option that I didn't get them
>>21655563Fuck i never see shit like this. Best score I got was two glass pyrex measuring cups for $4 lel
>>21655641The company makes an actual Dutch oven cleaner just for hard to clean issues on it. Maybe give that a try?
>>21654984>What molcajete do you guys recommendWhat’s the use case for these? I’ve only ever seen them occasionally at restaurants
>>21656259You supposedly get unique textures you can only get grinding ingredients against the volcanic rock for your guac and other sauces, and it doubles as a mortar and pestle.
>>21653064>400$ for a Le creuset or 30$ for a lodge?I have 2 copies of the 4qt amazon.com version. (they are really 3.5qt) The knob on top actually states "amazon" lol. I have one in my lake house, and it's only used once a month or so on average. But, they are both holding up now strong after 3-4 years. One is cream colored, the other is the avocado cream looking color. Outstanding, and come clean easily.
>>21656749>400$ for a Le creuset or 30$ for a lodgeYou have to be borderline retarded to pay $400 for a Le Creuset with all those sales. I'm not even sure what's more retarded, getting a girly-colored Le Creuset instead of Staub or paying $30 to get poisoned by Chinkware "cast iron"
>>21656809>Staub is for boys and Le creuset is fir grilsGay thinking
>>21653064>tfw I have a cheapo Martha Stewart 7.5qt oval enameled cast iron>tfw it was literally recalled but I didn't know until way laterEvery time I brown anything I feel like I should be an EOD suit
>>21653064I heard only faggots and homosexuals cook using Lodge brand products. So which are You OP?
>>21657158>can cause the enamel to enamel to crack and fly off as a projectile
>>21657159Well I'm a homosexual using French Le creuset gear. So I guess that checks out?
>>21653064le creuset are for people who a scareded of cast iron.
>>21654290also check if you have a local restaurant supply storefew weeks back in the used area, there was a countertop hobart for $325 I believe.
>>21657354poop comes out of there you chud
>>21653122looks gay
>>21654553i fairly recently replaced an el cheapo dutch oven i've had for 15 years with a staubenamel coat was pretty shit, but held up for at least 5 yearsthe cheap one had the lid nipples too, I didn't realize that le creuset doesn't have em
>>21657475Better never do anal with some bitch then either
>>21653064My 1200$ aluminum pans are super high quality and handmade (in china) they only give off minimal (a lot) amyloyd plaques that clog up your brain and cause alzheimers. Btw aluminum + salt + fat = cancer
>>21657639That's the kind of guy who would end a relationship if his girl ever brought up taking it up her ass. Just cause he's SO straight.
>>21657539How is the staub
>>21656893It's accurate actually. Women hate Staub because it's heavier and Le Creuset has way more girly colors that also appeal to homosexuals
>>21659894Well I'm OP and I specifically like Le Creuset cause it's been around 100 years and I love vintage shit, so everything is going to be in volcanic. Also I'm gay. So it checks out.
Are Dutch ovens worth it in general? Have I been missing out by not owning one
>>21660019Dutch ovens are amazing if you like to make stews and sourdough bread. They really became a fad during the pandemic but there's more to them than that. Check out americas test kitchen on Dutch ovens, and get cast iron so you can use it on the stove top then right into the oven
>>21659937Staub looks even more vintage though and nobody will deny that their dutch ovens perform better than Le Creuset while not being half as fragile. The white truffle Staubs look much fancier than any Le Creuset too so I don't get why you would go for the latter even if you're a homosexual
>>21660587Gay post
>>21658128works greatits just a pot, but i do actually find i cook a little easier with it as opposed to my old one>>21660587i went with the maroon staublooks pretty nice in person all the websites make it look different shades of red/purple though
>>21660587I'll buy a staub for bread baking when it goes on sale during black friday. if I have money then anyway.
>>21653064Nothing wrong with stainless.
I literally got like a $30 no-name 8qt dutch oven from home goods five years ago and it has been absolutely great. I use it for bread making, braising, soups/stews/chili, and general bulk cooking. I can tell you from growing up in a home with le creuset dutch ovens that the performance and quality is virtually identical.
>>21663280Just because your no-name dutch oven is decent doesn't mean anyone finding a random no-name dutch oven will have the same experience in 2025.
>>21663298Just name it then
OP Here. I got all the Le Creuset I threatened to get. I can post a pic if everyone wants to see. This is in my next sights for acquisition to have everything I need.
>>21663520>swedish housewife mixer Don't forget your black dildo to complete the experience of a swede.
>>21663552Which black dildo is the best according to america's test kitchen?
>>21663556>the strong fat girlbosses say a mixer with an inherently bad design is good because it comes from SwedenYou could ask them on troonsky, I bet they would give you a recommendation.
>>21663579>strong fat girlbossesLMAOSo here's the deal, faggot. You need to offer compelling alternatives. Those fat girlbosses do a lot of testing and make convincing arguments, you can clearly shit talk but you're gonna need to put in some extra effort to build a case for something else. Or even just making a case, you can at least try. This thread was supposed to be a high end baking equipment general thread, so the pros v cons of mixers is completely allowed and I encourage the debate.
>>21663579>>21663622Well, I bought it. If all you have is shit talk and the others have facts, I just bit the bullet and boughted it
>>21664619My last 2 kitchenaid mixers were free cause people always throw them out when the sacrificial gear breaks and it's simple as fuck to repair them and get them back up and running just fine.
>>21663579Uh oh, America's test kitchen heard your fat girl boss comment and just released their lisping gay faggot to go to bat for ankarsrum insteadhttps://youtu.be/bFHOSde5yCY?si=--hzPmVn-5ZmL67R
>>21664647I'm gonna sell my old one on Facebook marketplace. Say, that's a pretty nice recipe binder you got there anon. Does /ck/ do family recipe threads?
>>21664619Enjoy your house wife mixer designed to warm the bowl due to retarded motor placement. Once again, there is a reason no commercial mixer has the motor under the bowl.
>>21653064Neither, get a staub.
>>21664734Once again, the motor is not under the bowl you bellend.
>>21664729>Does /ck/ do family recipe threads?No idea, i've got 3 or 4 of those handwritten recipe books from the 1960s up to the early 2010s from my grandmother and mother.
>>21664789This is the motor, it is literally directly under the bowl you dumb fucking retard. https://www.cooptim.com/products/ankarsrum
>>21664914Once again, you are wrong you absolute tool.
>>21664926>>21664914Mom! Dad! Stop fighting it's just a mixer! *sobs*
Here's some of that Le creuset order BTW
>>21664647why the hell does it have a sacrificial gear in the first place? Mine must have over heated and partly broke because after I was using it to grind some meat. A day later I made some dough and a piece of metal was in the dough. Guess I need to take a look at the gear box.
>>21665562So it can't mangle you if you get your hand or something else caught in itWhen I was 19 or 20 I worked at a bakery and my tie got caught in the sheeter and it damn near killed meStopped wearing ties or anything else hanging off the front of me ever since, not even apron ties
>>21665533That's a really girly color and 5 out of 7 of these abominations are borderline useless. Do you even realize how tacky this whole setup looks?
>>21666060No? Cause the point was to keep them in reach for use. As for the color being girly, it's the original color. I don't care for the modern fashion of everything being black and Grey.
>>21666112>the modern fashion of everything being black and Grey.Yes cause the ONLY options are black/grey or lava orange.
Lodge for skillets and dutch ovens you use on an open fire, All-Clad (or Viking) for stainless steel, and Le Creuset for enameled dutch ovens, if you're into that sort have thingCaptcha: PAKKY
>>21666155It tracks that a BMW driver also picks the showy, less performant Dutch oven.Style over substance
Considering asking for an enameled cast iron 3.5qt braiser for my birthday even if I have two big creuset dutch ovens already.Anyone of you have one of those? Worth getting it or unnecessary?
>>21666402Id personally rather get an enameled rectangular baking dish.Most things you can do in a braiser can be done in a dutch oven
>>21653078Le creuset is a meme get a staub. or if you really want Le creuset go to an estate sale or a thrift store. People throw them out all the time because the ceramic gets dirty and they think its ruined.
>>21666386Faster and more luxurious than your cars, ponky
>>21666425Men only like Staub because it comes in boring, men colors, sounds like STAB, and makes them think of penises. Also an all black interior makes them think of BBCs and its easier to clean for lazy, practical men. Staub is a meme.
>>21666521I had a 2016 XKR coupe when I was still single, I drive a 2023 CX-50 now because I have a family. Pic related, a few days before I sold it in late 2023.
>>21666552Like I said, faster and more luxurious than your carsYou don't need no dang cuv for a family either
>>21666559Faster maybe, more luxurious, I doubt it.Also i bet you paid out the ass, I got mine 2 years used $70,000 off MSRP with only 19,000 miles.Can't really complain when it's a supercharged V8 producing 510HP for under $30,000. And I sold it for basically as much as I paid for it originally, so I didn't really lose anything for owning it for 5 years besides what I paid for upkeep.
>>21666559Godamm what a flex. Beautiful breakfast on a BMW, everyone in this thread status: Officially wreckt>>21666576This is a cooking thread boys so keep the car shop penis measuring for other boards.
>>21666155Now, I want to ask about frying pans. I am using le creuset frying pan for eggs for breakfast. Would I be better served with an all clad d3?
>>21666597Enamel frying pans are similar to non-stick pans (though not AS non-stick).I find enamel pans are great for eggs.I too use a le creuset pan for my eggs.
>>21666576Definitely more luxurious. Just compare interiors. Did your jaaag even have a leather dash?Mine has a fully B U I L T TWIN-TURBO V8 with forged internals built by CarBahn, PURE turbos, KW coilovers, CSF x PURE charge coolers Mishimoto oil cooler666+ ponies (more like 777-888)I'd only sell it for much more than I built it which only someone that knows what they're looking at would even be intoFuck that though I'm keeping that B U I L T motor for myself>>21666597For eggs I'd use a regular ole cast iron skillet
there's a board for bickering about cars and it's not this one
>>21666622Yes, and your total outlay is probably $50000+ if you were to actually pay for your own time invested in the project.Also how the fuck can I compare interiors? You've yet to say what car you're even talking about.
>>21666559Is that a 4 cylinder? lol
>>21666644NTA, but looks like an S63 V8 to me.
>>21666634Relax son I only have LODGE cast irons currently; Le Creusets sure are pretty though>>21666644Yeah, twice
>>21666622>Definitely more luxurious. Just compare interiorsAssuming you have a ~2012-23 M5, the interior is more performance-focused (lightweight aluminium trim) and less traditional luxury. The XKR is more traditional British coupe luxury (wood accents, leather, plushness, etc)They approach "luxury" from totally different perspectives.The BMW is about modern performance features over luxury. They do it in a high-end way, but it's not luxurious in the regular sense; it's just good build quality.
we don't even have lodge in europe so you're either paying premium or get dogshit amazon basics one
>>21655563Le Creuset blew up with IG white women during covid, I've noticed they're damn near non existent at yard sales/thrift shops now as people throw them up on eBay/marketplace for 10% less than retail for a beat up oven. As always anything white women gain interest in gets ruined.
>>21666677Faster and more luxurious than the xkr. Go look up the xkr interior. It looks hilariously cheap. The mix of old fashioned luxury with that fischer price center console and infotainment is hilarious. Even my E39 looks nicer
>>21666060>5 out of 7 of these abominations are borderline uselessHow the fuck do you figure that
>>21666706Probably still worth it to get the LODGE
>>21653172>prestigeIt's a fucking pot.
>>21666739i said we dont have it dumbass by premium i meant premium brand price not premium over what americans pay you'd have to import it
>>21666739lol
>>21666706>dogshit Amazon onesI mean, it's a bare cast iron frying pan. How bad can it be? I've seen people grind down the surface to disgustingly beautiful smooth surfaces on their own too so why is this not a possible solution
>>21666606I'll probably need to get a smaller Le creuset for my eggs and single serving size cooking, and the all clad for browning and other stuff
>>21666834>barei can buy bare no problem, le creuset and staub are enameledalso i can't imagine dutch oven being useful at all if i couldnt make goulash or curry or ragu in it
>>21666853Yeah, losing the seasoning on a bare Dutch oven would be annoying. So, does that mean that paying tariffs on enameled cheap ass lodge Dutch ovens make them functionally the same price as premium options? Cause that's hilarious
>>21666882lodge is apparently pretty decent but staub/ le creuset are still betterit doesnt really make sense to import because it's like $50-100 + $50 shipping or probably more + 17-23% VAT depending on where you live and you end up at like $150 for which you could totally get a le creuset on sale here
>>21666894Sounds like a guilt free good excuse to buy Le creuset or Staub then
>>21666919they're like $200 it's not that expensive at all
any proof that the excess of 370 dollars is due to cast iron being of higher quality (doubtable since they can only be made with specific alloy ratios) and not brand prestige?
>>21666974the excess of 370 dollars is due to it being a metal brick shipped across the ocean and brand prestige
>>21666977also scientistic framing by treating massively produced assembly line pots the same way as forged knives where the skill of the smith matters
>>21666985i dont think it's that overpriced compared to stainless steel shit
>>21654963>actually performs like top commercial cookwareYou mean super cheap and half-way disposable?
>>21667069That's how you know they've never worked a line in their life.
>>21667082>>21667069To be fair to him, there are levels
>>21667250>those disgustingly gorgeous French ovensI'm salivating here senpai uncs
>>21667261Yeah they even have a "kitchen table" seating option.Expensive as hell though, like $400 per person and an additional $200 or so per person for paired drinks. So a dinner for two with wine pairings is ~$1300 BEFORE taxes/gratuity. They're also the only restaurant in the region that has 3 Michelin stars.
>>21667250Holy fuckLooks like one of those restaurants purely based on the owner's vanity that end up not even making it to opening night
>>21667265They've been in business for decades.
>>21667266I wrote "looks like one of" for a reason
>>21667268I'm just confirming for you that they're not one of those places.
>>21667275I'm thanking you for the confirmation
>>21653064Are there knock-offs of these? My dad keeps finding them for like twenty bucks second-hand, lotta old people dying off around his town.
>>21667506You mean like actual FAKES trying to pretend to be le crueset?I'm sure it's a thing, but it's not super common from what I know.
>>21667517yeah that's what I meant. I was just wondering because I recognize the name from seeing it posted here and in other cooking spaces yet it's sold so cheap second hand. But some other anon on here said it's a common bargain find so it now makes sense.
Well, I'm haooy with my Le creuset. It feels fitting to have bought my set during their 100 year anniversary and in their original flame color. Stay tuned for when I break in my ankarsrum.
>>21667564Happy even
>>21667564Doesn't the orange color have cadmium?From what I know all the bright colors (yellow, orange, red) contain higher levels of cadmium.
>>21653094>accidentally posting on /v/And board quality improved by 450%
>>21667716Eat a dick. My phone auto filled to stupid ass /v/ after it failed to post because of Dante must die levels of captcha when I reset it.>>21667699Sure, maybe in the 1920s.
>>21667876>maybe in the 1920s.No, it's commonly accepted even today that the brighter colors have cadmium.Feel free to ignore this and delude yourself if it makes you feel better. But I'm like 99% they still use cadmium as an additive for coloring.
>>21653183these niggas need to rebrand. it sounds like some indian brand but is supposedly the best mixer ever
>>21667901For the colour yes, for the enamel no. They're actually safer (as in, less toxins end up in your food) than regular cast iron or comparable brands excluding Staub (which is just as safe).
I don't understand the dutch oven cult.I'm struggling to think of a use where it would meaningfully outperform a stainless steel rondeau with a thick bottom.
>>21666060poor
>>21666622mazda's interiors are nicer than bmw
>>21668002>For the colour yes, for the enamel noWhere do you think the color is located?in the enamelAlso the interior cooking surface for the brighter color pans almost always tests higher for cadmium than darker colors and "plain" colors ("dune" for example). Likely due to contamination from the coloring process.
>>21668281based
>>21668741>it's like totally contaminating your food inside and out guys I swearTake it to your Facebook group Stacey 4chan is no place for gas lighting and misinformation
>>21668893Yeah X-ray fluorescence is just a jewish scam to trick you.LolLmao evenI'm just telling the truth here bud, i'm not saying increased levels of Cadmium or lead are going to kill you, but if you DO want to avoid them, you should avoid the brighter Le Creuset colors like "flame" It's also notable Le Creuset refuses to answer which of their colors are Lead/Cadmium free. They do admit to some Antimony levels as required by law, but that's about it.You can also argue that XRF scanning isn't the best metric of testing because it's detecting metals present within the enamel, not necessarily metals that are leaching out into your food. And there have been no publicly disclosed reliable leaching tests done with Le Creuset, but presumably, they meet FDA/EU legal requirements. But in any case, I PERSONALLY choose to avoid the colors that demonstrably have higher levels of Cadmium and Lead. Any of the plain colors should be fine. I personally use matte black Staub which have been observed to contain zero detectable levels of lead or cadmium using XRF scanning.
>>21668925The saddest thing is i think you're not trolling
>>21668927The sad thing is I KNOW you're not.Just because something meets the legal standards set by governments doesn't make it safe or healthy for you.
>>21668927Do you think the cadmium/lead aren't there at all or do you just think they're not bad for you?Like genuinely, do you think it's all some scientific fudd or are you just confident the lead/cadmium wont have any effect on your health?
>>21668932Facebook group. Be gone from the thread.
>>21668989Just answer the question kiddo
y'all gay
>>21666112>>21668281Buying more than two cast iron pieces is straight up retarded. You don't need more than one dutch oven, maybe two if you bake bread all the time or something or if you need a smaller dutch oven for some reason. Cast iron sauce pans for example are as stupid as it gets. You have no idea what you're doing. Buying Le Creuset over Staub is retarded. Getting "lava orange" Le Creuset means that you're a certified faggot
>>21669211poor
>>21669211I have two, a 4qt for small loafs of bread and meals for 1-2 people; braised chicken thighs, beef stew, chili, etc. And a 7qt mainly for family meals (3-5 people) whole chickens, large batches of stew/chili, larger braised roasts, etc. I kinda low-key want one of those 13.25qt stuab ones for larger shit like maybe even a braised whole turkey/goose. But $650 aint cheap.
>>21669235Get yourself mini cocottes. Fun to cook with and nice way to serve.
>>21669242They're absurdly priced.I paid $99 for my 4qt and $199 for my 7qt.So $70-100 for 0.275qt minis is just a shot to the dick.
>>21669263Definitely not for poors.
>>21666734> rodenbach grand cru a man of culture
>>21669270It's not even that I can't afford it, I just refuse to get cucked that hard.If the 13.25qt ever goes on sale for under $500 I might buy one.
>>21669263The minis are fraudulent chinkware, not even made in france
>>21669289Are you sure?They list the product origin as france on the website.What's your source?
>>21669297>What's your source?Delusions fueled by lack of funds.
>>21669297How new are you? If it doesn't say Made in France it's ALWAYS Made in Chink
>>21669351Anon... It says made in France on the website. If you can prove they're lying do it.
>>21656259>>21656345this with the addition of it being oven safe up to ridiculous temperatures as it's made from volcanic rock. it serves no purpose in my kitchen so i'll probably never get one.
>>21669351Anon, they do say made in france on them
>>21669400Maybe he's referring to the Le creuset stoneware ones, which are likely made in China
>>21667069no, i said "TOP commercial cookware"
>>21669351How poor are you? Just to be clear it's a good thing.
>>21666576>>21666559>>21666552>>21666521>>21666386>>>/lgbt/>>>/o/
>>21666537>because it comes in boring, men colors, sounds like STAB, and makes them think of peniseshell yeah
>>21666537>men will see this post and just think "hell yeah"
