>>21653703
>airfryer/toaster oven
Incredibly snoy OP.
It's by people who don't like oil.

>>21653704
They are literally just countertop convection ovens.

They're all shit, just pick one on sale and be happy with it. Because while they all shit, they are still more portable and easier to wash convection oven. Place the chicken inside, get your finely fried chicken 20 minutes later.

>>21653704
>just spend $15 on oil every time you get hungry bro

>>21653703
toaster ovens are all the same and theres no reason nto to get one from a thrift shop other than having to do a first-time deep clean

air fryers in my experience aren't any better than a toaster oven because 99% of them are chinesium junk that aren't even a "countertop convection oven" and are just a a toaster oven with more foldy bits

>>21653707
>>...every time you get hungry bro
That's what oil is supposed to lower hunger, if you don't consume oil you will be hungry again 2 hours later.

>>21653703
The cheapest ones.
No IoT shit. Pure mechanical controls.

>>21653710
>Pure mechanical controls.
this but I modded with cheap ebay PID controller for precise temp control. still going strong after many years

>>21653709
That's what fat is for not oil. Oil eaters develop squirrel cheeks.

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>>21653703
Countertop convection ovens are the better of the two, but more expensive and you need to get an actual countertop convection oven. Only get one on sale, they go on deep discounts all the time at brick and mortar stores. Wolf is a safe brand, I've had mine for ~20 years and no issues.

Air fryers are alright for reheating fried foods or frozen shit like fries or nuggies or whatever. I rarely use mine except when I'm being lazy as fuck, usually dumplings or fries.

hey dumbass, pizza goes in the oven, not the air fryer

>>21653713
theres tons of them on sale rn on amazon. im looking at a cosori but IDK if its good or not

"COSORI Toaster Oven Air Fryer Combo, 11-in-1, 26QT Convection Oven Countertop"

>>21653703
I have a cusinart toaster oven thats lasted for over 5 years. Led is a bit fucked up after 3 years or so but not a big deal.

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>>21653715
Better to wait till black friday or, potentially preferably, after Christmas and not get a no-name chinknesium brand. Many of them are toxic and shed chemicals into your food. I dunno what your budget is, but make sure there's no PFAs or whatever.

It's a fucking oven, use your oven.

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i bought picrel several months ago and use it everyday
don't listen to the poorfag luddites itt
expensive but totally worth it. i've owned cheaper airfryer/toaster ovens before but this one has been the best by far

I've got a 2 drawer ninja, works well.

The bigger the compartment, the crappier the air fryer. Because it requires a bigger fan they'll probably cheap out on.

>>21653709
Fat nigger, too early for mutts so I don't know what gypsy abomination you are

>>21653719
Concur. I've been using an earlier model of this for over ten years, might be time to upgrade. Hopefully their quality hasn't gone down.

Dualit toaster if you can afford it

>>21653704
I don't like dealing with deep frying either. Whatever chemslop they put on good oven fries nowadays, it really works. I might shallow fry something, but no more deep frying.
>>21653707
That's why you use hard fats for a deep frier, tallow or palm oil. Solid fat doesn't spoil too fast and the deep frier is easier to move/store.

>>21653703
every airfryer with a plastic shell is a piece of shit that will kill itself as the plastic corners slowly degrade and then fail to maintain its own shape, forcing you to slam the shake tray until it finally fails and refuses to stay closed. tricking goy into adopting disposable cooking devices is the most jewish shit ever.

my gas oven is over 20 years old, still works. but i have to buy an air fryer every fucking year because they are made out of garbage with obvious points of failure. current airfryer is only working because i rubber band the mother fucker to keep the tray closed.

>>21653703
I wanted to get one to easily roast veggies but I couldn't find one that didn't look like a rip off.

>>21653725
>slamming the tray closed like i'm reloading a printer like I'm loading a .50
sounds good nigga

>>21653726
roasting veggies is low n' slow and you want standing hot air. air fryers wouldnt be great for veg since they're higher temp

>>21653725
yea this seems to be a common complaint, the machine wont start eventhough the basket or door is all the way in.

noted

is it a good idea to avoid units with knobs ?

every review has complaints of them breaking off

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>>21653729
knobs are replaceable and 90% of the full assemblies are like picrel where installing a new actual handle knob is trivial and repairing it is even easier

>>21653727
>roasting veggies is low n' slow
Pretty sure it's the opposite but ok.

>>21653731
works for me. keeps em soft and juicy on the inside but 350-400 is still enough to crisp up the outside

>>21653703
>>21653706
i use cheapest one to the costco 100 dollar one
I never clean them, they last like 3-5 years before the element fucking dies or the fan stops working.

>>21653732
400 degrees is not "low".

>>21653734
my oven goes up to 525. skill issue

>>21653719
>i've owned cheaper airfryer/toaster ovens before but this one has been the best by far
How is it better? I'm looking at ones like this too, I prefer metal over plastic. Does the convection fan shut off while cooking like my cheap instapot?

toaster overn style of you got the space otherwise a shit small one is what i have omg reheated pizza in it is so good, i get 10lb bags of tater tots and nuggies at costco

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>>21653703
Avoid basket fryers. They tend to be cheaply made and annoying to clean. They are also limited to basically just air frying, so they're worse in all regards. Also avoid ones that use non-stick coatings. You want something you can apply steel wool onto every couple of months when normal soap and water no longer cuts it.

Avoid anything with a touch screen or those shitty "not really a touchscreen but it's still just a capacitive touch" buttons. Dials are the best way to go, with physical buttons a good alternative.

I have one of these Breville ovens. Fully stainless steel, has a slot for the broiler, and has a powerful fan for air frying. Bonus is that it can get temperature low enough for dehydrating, so I use it for drying 3D printing spools. A bit expensive, but will outlive 3-4 cheap basket air fryers easily.

>>21653738
>They tend to be cheaply made and annoying to clean.
This is because people use them wrong. I've got a little wire rack that goes in mine, I clean the basket itself maybe once a month, and the rack takes 2 seconds to wash.

I've had a small convection oven before, they're fantastic for something like cooking a whole chicken. Waste of energy for single portions. You're right about dials, though.

>>21653712
Source?

is there any good model that is also a microwave or at least not a single use appliance?

theres 2 ninja models SP300c and SP101c.

I cant tell which one is better, higher number in name should be better right?

>>21653738
>They tend to be cheaply made and annoying to clean.
Not true. They're easy to clean. The Breville, on the other hand, is a bitch to clean.

>>21653741
No, microwaves are at odds with the concept.

It's not a single use appliance, a soup maker or a coffee maker is a single use appliance. Air fryers are just small ovens, anything you can do in a regular oven can be cooked faster and easier in an air fryer.

>>21653719
my mommy loves this thing

>>21653741
I also want a microwave toaster oven eventually to replace my enormous 70s microwave

>>21653744
there are microwaves oven, i dont see why they could be at odds. it just needs a mica window and space out of the chamber for the microwave internals

>>21653742
I got the sp101, it's pretty good for making pizza

>>21653747
Air fryers are not the same as mini convection ovens, despite what one retard spamming breville shit here thinks.

When you increase the size of the cooking area, you reduce the efficiency. A mini oven is a jack of all trades, master of none, while the air fryer is the optimal way to cook small amounts of food, and a real oven is the optimal way to cook a large amount of food.

When you combine a microwave and a mini oven, either you have a shit microwave, or a shit mini oven.

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>>21653703
An air fryer is just a convection oven. I use a black and decker toaster oven from the 80's, works perfect. It looks like this with different colors.

>>21653703
Just buy a convection oven. Better yet, but a microwave convection oven combo so you only need one appliance.

>>21653749
i wont have any problem in having a microwave with the chamber size of a regular air fryer.

>>21653752
There is a reason microwaves are that big.

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>>21653703
I got this bad boy (Ninja Foodi OP101) five and a half years ago when I lived in the dorms. It has a bunch of functions, but now that I have a kitchen I only use it for air frying. I've never used its pressure cooking function, that shit scares me desu, but my homie says it works great.
They fucked up making it this good. I've been waiting for it to die so I can justify buying a bigger one, but it's still going strong. One of the first things I did with it was plug it into a 230V outlet by accident and try to use it. It turned on, made weird popping noises, I realized I fucked up and unplugged it. Apparently not a problem. This thing's a beast.
I also got the Ninja cookware set from Costco. I'll shill for these guys any day, they earned it.

>>21653754
Ninja make a lot of overpriced crap, but their air fryers are decent. You can probably get something cheaper that still works, but my first air fryer was total junk.

>>21653753
my regular plates fits on my current shitty air fryer
see i meant shit like this, not necessarily a microwave >>21653754

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i'm in the UK, i have this cheap 2-litre Salter one i got for £20. no frills at all. barely any space, but good for a singular meal (e.g. chicken tendies, chips, veggies). takes minutes to hit 200 degrees C.

still going strong after 5 years. heats up, cooks food, easy to clean. definitely wouldn't fit something like a pizza though.

>>21653757
idk if im just fat or what but it doesnt seem like you can put very much in there.

like 2 tendies and a dozen fries.

>>21653703
Why would you get one of those if you can just get a normal oven and put that in your kitchen? Or isn't there enough space for it?

>>21653703
ninja, ive had my current ninja for over 5yrs and it still going strong.
I also have one of these >>21653713 but the ninja airfryer is way better and it can grill steaks absolutely perfectly without me having to do shit.

>>21653759
old conventional oven takes for fucking ever to pre-heat and might broken and I dont want to replace it. I usually cook food with frying pan/pot like chicken and rice or something but im getting bored of it and once in a while I'd like to have some tendies and fries again

>>21653704
no shit? oil is cancer.

>>21653703
got a liddl nearby?

>>21653762
>oil is cancer
so use saturated animal fats like butter

>>21653757
how long does it take to make fries or chickin?

>>21653763
ever heard of cholesterol?

>>21653765
Cholesterol is healthy. Statins make you die faster.

>>21653757
>i'm in the UK,
>i have a 2-litre air fryer
I doubt anyone would have confused you for a Burger anon. 2 liters is Burger Breakfat Pepsi.

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>>21653703
already have one but should get this one

>>21653704
1. no cleanup
2. no grease mist
3. no cleanup

>>21653704
they're optimal for heating up frozen goyslop

OP here, I ended up going with a cheaper one called "Philips 2000 Series Airfryer - 4.4 qt" while it was still one sale.

its cheap as fuck so if it breaks I won't be as sad as if I bought one of the $300+ ones

also I had to consider the old fuse box I have at my place, some air fryers/mini ovens can draw 15 amps and the fuses I have installed are all 15 amps and would probably blow and I'd have to go buy new ones.

would have been nice to be able to bake a frozen pizza once in a while but oh well.

is it possible to use like a wire rack thing to cook like 2 things at once ?

BTW avoid any air fryers that use halogen bulbs.

they work great at first but if even a bit of oil, even from your fingers gets on it the bulb can eventually explode

>>21653771
Yeah, but you'll need a rack that fits in it. It's all about air flow, as long as you aren't choking the lower layer completely, it'll cook, just a little slower.

>>21653771
googling seems like they only make racks for larger sizes you'll have to measure and find a generic one

I have an air fryer oven

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>>21653775

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>>21653776
got any cool tips or recepies?
receiving this on Monday

>>21653777
It's just a faster oven, dude.

>>21653703
Friendly reminder that anything with non-stick surfaces are insanely toxic and the plastic particles go straight to your testicles. Use steel, cast iron, ceramic, or glass only. And don't buy any cookware from China since it probably has lead in it.

>>21653778
I never used an oven.
I eat instant ramen and instant soup only.

>>21653780
your bones, sir?

>>21653704
Every fucking thread, some skullfucked animal fresh off of /pol/ trying to derail the thread with some comment infused with brain damage.
Every single fucking time.

>>21653781
what about them?

>>21653783
lacking some calcium?

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>>21653715
I received a cheap basket style cosori as a gift a few years back. It's held up and performed well.
My only gripe has been the obnoxiously loud piezoelectric beep on every button press.

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>>21653703
The only correct answer.

>>21653785
is the basket big enough to do an adult sized portion of fries and chicken tendies at once?

like half a dozen tendies and 2 hand fulls of fries or something IDK

>>21653786
Absolute SOVL
Look at the tasteful utilitarianism of it. The simple but clean stainless look. My god, it even has a crumb catch.

>>21653788
It's the best. It even automatically decreases the toasting time if the oven's warm from previous runs so your toast gets consistently browned.

>>21653703
>and maybe a pizza
you lost me here, OP
explain yourself

>>21653784
no
I take calcium pills

>>21653787
Yeah that'll fit.
The only time I've run into capacity problems is with something like a salmon filet that I have to chop down a bit.

>>21653714
he said toaster oven
regular ovens are big bro

>>21653790
^This, >>21653703
Make your own dough/crust an grill that pizza over charcoal. Way more yummy.

bemp

>>21653703
Just buy one of those that cost like 35 dollars. Believe me, the expensive ones are not worth it.

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>>21653704

>>21653764
answer this

>>21653703
Get one that also steams to make the sides warm.

>>21653799
Insides*

>>21653777
The only thing really with these air ovens is it's best to semi-defrost food first
You''ll find that you need to knock about 10-15 degrees off things and it's about 10-15 minutes faster

>>21653710
my cheap one has shit heating element
takes forever to cook tendies

>>21653719
whats the advantage compared to classic oven?

>>21653703
Me and my family have gone through several over the years, and have had the best luck with Cosori. Decent size and outlasted others we've had. Good customer support too, the two times we had any issues (touch panel stopped working, and a recall), they sent free replacements.
That said, maybe consider just going for the cheapest one. It's a fan and a heating element above a basket, extra controls and "smart" features are just extra opportunities to fuck it up.

>>21653757
>>21653758
i have same form factor just generic chink brand and its awful
>too small
>too slow

>all these people recommending hybrids or just convection ovens
They absolutely do not work the same or as well as an actual air fryer.
Hybrids/convection ovens are much slower and screw with the texture more. Arguing they're the same because they both use hot air is like saying a moped and a race car are the same because they're both an engine on wheels. They'll both get you to the finish line, so what's the difference? At best it's misinformed and at worst it's deliberately posting in bad faith.

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>>21653704
>t.

>>21653719
I came here to post the same model. It seemed to be the most liked when I was looking up airfryer/toaster ovens 6 years ago, and it's worked perfectly since then.

>>21653803
smaller = uses less electricity. Don't need to heat up a big full oven just to cook something small.
convection = it circulates the air so food cooks faster

>>21653738
>Avoid basket fryers. They tend to be cheaply made
And equally cheap to buy
>and annoying to clean
The basket on mine is dishwasher safe
>They are also limited to basically just air frying
No shit, that's their point. Use your oven/other appliance if you need a different cooking method
>so they're worse in all regards
All regards, except for the fact that proper air frying will get better results for many foods than anything your Breville will manage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h9JhW-m35o
Required watching for anyone considering toaster oven/air fryer combos

>>21653703
They’re great for rehearing n things and making them crispy and heat things differently than a conventional oven. Convection ovens are things for a reason. I got a kitchen aid box air fryer with a front door. It works perfectly. It replaced my toaster and takes up more room on the counter but it’s great

>>21653790
Air fryers are the best way to reheat pizza, no question

>>21653777
>got any cool tips or recepies?
Just use Google, retard.

>>21653814
I don't want to use Google.
Google is the lowest point.
I'd rather trust 4chan and wisdom accumulated by at least like-minded anonfags than random posts on Google.

no one even bothers with mustard gas anymore...

>>21653704
>getting your veins clogged with cholesterol is based and maga

>>21653810
> proper air frying will get better results for many foods than anything your Breville will manage.
Wow, people really don't know what air frying actually is here, huh?

>>21653703
The less features it has the longer it will last. The best kind just have a timer and temperature setting with analog knobs. Maybe one more knob for broil vs bake vs fry but that's pushing it.

>>21653703
I want an air fryer I can cook a whole chicken in, how big does in need to be?

>>21653819
I would say at least as big as a whole chicken.

>>21653820
Thanks.

Insta is the best brand.

>>21653822
They're very durable and even after getting thrown across the room or slammed on the ground they still keep working without issue.

>>21653816
>blaming the firefighters for the fire

>>21653823
how the hell do you even know that?

OP here I received my air fryer and just did my first meal, the fryer I got was >>21653771

the 4.4qt seems like the limit for one person if you want to do everything at the same time.

I didn't pack too much frozen food in there to make sure it would cook properly. about 2 hand fulls a 3 tendies.

20 mins total cook time,no pre-heat just put it in, one shake/flip half way.

for 2 people you'd have to either cook in batches or get a way bigger fryer.

I think if I had a mini rack thing that was tall I could put a nice bit more fries and maybe 2 more tendies and it would all cook

>>21653703
I got the one on the left for something retarded like $30 at Walmart and it's my favorite out of several much more expensive options. Really great for pizza and reheating stuff.

I been using a Oster convection toaster oven and a Ninja Air fryer without issue for a number of years.

When I was six or seven I shocked myself by trying to get flaming toast out of the toaster oven with a metal knife. It's left me with a life long fear of toaster ovens and toasters.

>>21653741
Yes, I own one. It comes with an air fryer tray insert that is all metal. Neat little device, does oven, micro, and air fry, plus some combo modes I do not use. Galanz. They have larger ones if you need more cu foot space.

Great for clearing up space off the counter, as it fits in my microwave cubby.

The oven mode is handy as fuck, as I don't need to heat up a friggen huge ass oven for little tasks. Just don't forget the modes or you get sparks.

>>21653744
>>21653747
That anon is lying because he can't google. There are 3-4 options on the market for you to choose from that incorporate an airfryer in the microwave.

>>21653750
RETARD ALERT. RETARD ALERT.

An air fryer uses a heating element and a high power fan (high CFM) that runs at all times, circulating hot dry air over the food item. This is NOT convection, as the fan in convection ovens are used just to maintain temp. They are not used for airflow over the food. Additionally, to "air fry", one must coat the food in oil to provide a medium for heat transfer, or the food burns. This is fundamentally different from just shoving food into an oven per package directions. The end result of an air fry is a far crispier product, be it tendies or fries. The oven product is far inferior, which is why these became a "meme" device /ck/ constantly debates about because retards like this anon can troll that they are useless.

>>21653758
The basket ones are kinda small. You have to fry in batches or shake. Too much food in them will overcrowd em.

You really need the ninja double basket one if you want shit like tendies and fries or fish and chips.

>>21653703
dont get a Calphalon
the thing takes forever to heat up. i want to get a new one toaster oven, but i spent a bunch of money on this.
and i did research on which to buy and didnt think it would bother me that much. i was wrong.

>>21653719
That model Breville is the gold standard atm:
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/the-best-toaster-oven/

>>21653863
if they are cheap enough you can get 2 of them.

maybe thats the best play, find the cheapest one that is good at one thing and get 2 of them.

>>21653901
A good toaster oven maybe, but not a good air fryer.
They are mutually incompatible.

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>>21653729
>is it a good idea to avoid units with knobs ?
>every review has complaints of them breaking off
LOL my POS Oster toaster oven that we got for like $30 ~13 years ago (looks like picrel) had the bottom timer knob fall off and there's what looks like a flathead screw behind it that controls the duration. For the past 3-4 years I've just taken a butter knife and stuck it in there to turn it directly on and add minutes.

>>21653730
>Potentiometer
So THAT's what that is.

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>>21653703
Typhur is the best air fryer as previous anon said. Better heating elements, better surface area, better all around.

>>21654893
>$600 CAD

it had better be

>>21653704
>don't like oil
Is that bad?
Do you drink the oil or something?

>>21653782
Didn't pol hate seed oils? Make it make sense

I have this one. Its great. The most amazing part is how well the grill works. I really didnt expact that. The Rotiseri part works great but i rarely use it.

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>>21654976
Forgot the pic

>>21654978
I had that one in my cart during the amazon big deal thing but didn't get it but opted for a cheaper one as my first.

seems really good though, tons of space, can cook basically anything but I love in a old apartment with 15 amp fuses not even breakers.

that unit draws just over 14 amps and might blow the fuse if there is a fluctuation.

maybe if I could convert the plug and put it into the 240v ? but that would blow the unit idk enough about electrical

>>21653777
>got any cool tips
The best way to get gunk off the trays and basket is foaming oven cleaner. Get L-shaped steel nails, they're great for keeping baking paper down (pierce the corners, through the grate).

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>>21654893
Looks like something made for psychopaths

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>>21655107
> Looks like something made for psychopaths
I use it to reheat my leftovers from Dorsia.

>>21653807
Seed oil causes that. Not butter and lard.

Air air fryer chicken wings even remotely close to regular deep fried or should I just keep going to BW3s?

Does anyone have experience with the ninjas that have the megazone? Tempted to buy one on black friday.

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>>21655350
Chicken in an air fryer tastes like it was on a propane grill.

>>21655350
yes they make great chicken wings, it's actually what convinced me to buy one after my friend cooked us some wings in one. they're not as good as deep fried but they are crispy on the outside and wayyy better than any shitty oven or grilled wings

>>21654986
>that unit draws just over 14 amps and might blow the fuse if there is a fluctuation.
>maybe if I could convert the plug and put it into the 240v ? but that would blow the unit idk enough about electrical
wouldn't a normal power strip cut off before it blows your fuse
I even remember having one that had a couple knobs with it's own fuses in side

>>21653754
Are there still devices that aren't 110-230V? I thought we moved way past it.

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>>21653703
Got the Air Fryer Pro and like it a lot.
It does basically anything an oven can do assuming it can fit.
You do have to do some things like cover bread with a piece of tin foil to prevent the top from getting burnt when the heating element turns on.
I use it a lot because it's really convenient.

>>21656599
pretty sure air fryers should not be plugged in power strips at least not the usual residential ones. but that got me thinking.

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>>21653719
>expensive but totally worth it.

No it isn't, I got pic related at Meijers for like $60 five or six years ago and it the same thing as your overpriced $350 toaster oven.

>>21653703
Cosori. I ignored them at first because I thought it was just a random Chinese brand, but they actually make the best air fryers.

I threw my two month old Smart Oven in the trash after taking it apart to kill the beep that was waking up the entire house every time I used it and I couldn't get the piece of shit back together because it's built to the absolute lowest possible quality level possible.

Ninja 10 in 1
A bitch to clean but works very well.

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>>21653703
>toaster oven
The golden age of toaster ovens are over. They used to be simple, silent and indestructible. Now they they are noisy POS that beep and whirl and click.

Your only option is to go to a thrift store to find this GOAT.

>>21653713
>>21653717
this, steel's better than non stick plastic crap
plus you can buy more sheets to put in them easy

>>21653803
Less thermal mass so heats up way faster. You dummy even need to spend $300. Just get a convection toaster oven that will fit a pizza and you’re set. Won’t have to bother with a air fryer

>>21658398
That doesn’t have convection

>>21659474
or just go to walmart or renys, they still sell simple models

>>21659822
so?

the instantpot brand air fryer seems like the consensus pick. best performance and cooking capacity that isn't a 400$ monstrosity like the typhur.

>>21653704
>deep frying pizza
Just how fat are you?

>>21659820
>Just get a convection toaster oven that will fit a pizza and you’re set. Won’t have to bother with a air fryer
Man, an air fryer is by far the best way to heat leftover/frozen pizza