>take fresh tomato>cut in half>sprinkle salt on it>eatwhy does nobody realise how fucking good this is, holy shit it's like a savoury bomb, I read that tomatoes contain things called glutamates which is what MSG is derived from, the salt enhances the natural tomato flavour and like overcharges it, i almost can't eat it over how powerful the taste is, try it now
>>21667232That's umami for yah, kid. Now take some dried shiitake mushrooms, powder them and sprinkle that onto the tomato plus your salt. Shiitake mushrooms have a compound called guanylic acid in them that potentiates the savory taste from glutamate by around 10 times.
>>21667232now sprinkle it with msg
>>21667232>Anon discovers how tomato salads workToday was a good day for /ck/
>>21667232>why does nobody realise how fucking good this isthey do...this is very common where people grow fresh tomatoes.
>>21667247Umami isn't real. That's why you had to use the word savory as a descriptor.
>>21667285retard
>>21667285>denies basic biologyKek
>>21667285based science denier
>>21667290>>21667299>>21667417That's why he had to use the word savory to describe umami, right? Fuck out of here. Even the Ajinomoto (the very first producer of commercial MSG) website defines umami as savory. Am I supposed to believe the company that worked directly with the chemist who discovered MSG or some random weebs on a shipost anime website?
A tomato and duke mayonnaise sandwich is the only acceptable way to eat a tomato
>>21667530No they don't define it as savory, retard. The literal translate of umami is delicious taste. Your claim has been debunked years ago. Umami is a primary flavor and savory is a taste/category of foods. You are just flat out retarded and it is hilarious.I could have easily used umami both times, but I love baiting retards like you.
>>21667550Directly from the Ajinomoto website. >One evening over dinner in 1908, one of the Ajinomoto Group’s founders, biochemist Dr. Kikunae Ikeda asked his wife a question that would change the history of food: What gave her vegetable and tofu soup its delicious meaty flavor? Mrs. Ikeda pointed to the dried seaweed called kombu, or kelp, that she used to make her traditional Japanese dashi, or broth. Inspired by this revelation, Dr. Ikeda set to work. Evaporating and treating his wife’s kombu broth, he was able to extract a crystalline compound, which turned out to be glutamic acid. Tasting the crystals, he recognized a distinct savory flavor he dubbed umami, based on the Japanese word umai (delicious). Dr. Ikeda filed a patent in 1908 to produce the world’s first umami seasoning: AJI-NO-MOTO®.> Tasting the crystals, he recognized a distinct savory flavor he dubbed umami, based on the Japanese word umai >he recognized a distinct savory flavor>a distinct SAVORY flavorSit the fuck down, umamicuck.
>>21667573>tfw he isn't pretending to be retarded after all
>>21667573Woooo boy you are one big dumb idiot. Please go back to school for one basic biology, and two reading comprehension.Thanks! :D
>>21667530umami is a variety of savory, but not all savory flavours are umami
>>21667584>>21667593Shit you got rekt didn't you...
>Its another episode of Zoomer discovers something that’s been around for centuries and thinks it’s something new and unheard of
>>21667629I see nowhere in your quote where umami is defined as savory.
>>21667637He isn't the anon who quoted Ajinomoto. I am. Here's the relevant part again. > Tasting the crystals, he recognized a distinct savory flavor he dubbed umami, based on the Japanese word umai>he recognized a distinct savory flavor>a distinct SAVORY flavor
>>21667232>nobody there's this dish called caprese, look it up zoomer
>>21667670I'm not some faggot italian or poser spanish cunt so i don't know these stupid meals
>>21667247Umami is some shit that pseudointellectuals made up to describe a sensation we've known about for millennia.
>>21667672stay stupid
>>21667676not in 33 years of my life has anybody ever served me a caprese salad
>Savory: cringe face>Savory, Japan: oh my science, nippon has done it again! first anime and now umami!? us dirty gaijen can never compare to them
>>21667232WHAT DOES THE REDDIT FOX HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?WHAT DOES THE REDDIT FOX HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?WHAT DOES THE REDDIT FOX HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?WHAT DOES THE REDDIT FOX HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?
>>21667641>distinctit's deserving of its own word and definition if it is distinct, anon senpai.
>>21667750He is my comfort animal.
>>21667827Take it up with Ajinomoto. I copied and pasted their definition verbatim. I'm sure you, a random fuckman anon on a chink cartoon forum knows more about umami than the man who discovered it and started the first company that produced MSG.
>>21667232wait til you try it with salt AND pepper!
>>21667946Not an argument, he defined nothing, and you are a whole ass idiot. There was no distinction between umami and savory before it was discovered/understood that specific compounds are what produce the umami taste sensation. The fifth primary taste.There are foods that are savory, but not umami, and there are foods that are umami without being savory. This simple logical fact proves 100% that they are not the same thing. Cope harder king retard.
>>21667750What does the reddit fox say haha am I right?
how do i find tomatos that are good vs flavorless
>>21668541ive never had a flavorless tomato so i don't know what you're doing wrong
>>21668541Go to a farmers market and buy from the hippy looking white guys, but only when tomatoes are in season.
>>21668548>buying from the hippies and not the menonites/amish/cultists/whatever
>>21668541Grow them yourself or find someone who does
>>21668549Oh yeah. Thatll work too. There are none of those in my area, sadly.
>>21667232yeh you can concentrate the umami by reducing the water content, drying or simmering tomatoes
>umami
>>21667674I have to agree with this guy
>>21667232You forgot black pepper.
>>21667530>savory: God given language. Divinely inspired. Fundamental truth of the universe >umami: A fake word made up by devil worshiping heathens. Perverting the essence of The All Mighty's creationWhy is it so difficult to convince even Western men of truth? Truly we live in dark times.
Is umami the new hotsauce for ck cooklet church incels?
Savorycel got btfo so badly he is talking to himself. KEK. Umami won.
>>21667530>lord anji wouldn't dare say um-
>>21667594>umami is a variety of savory, but not all savory flavours are umami This anon knows.
Reminder that umami-tard>is ESL>is unable to differentiate between American English and British English>can't read an English dictionary>thinks "savory" is a plant, and specifically NOT a flavor under any circumstancesYet he will claim to be an expert on what English words mean, what they describe, and which traditional English words need to be replaced by third worlder words with the same meaning.
>>21667232try with frank's red hot sauce. It's got some salt, sour, garlic and spice that makes tomatoes even better than just salt
>>21670765>wet stuff on wet stuffdisgusting. the only wet stuff allowed on tomatos in balsamic.
>>21670730>savorcel cope
>>21670780You are missing out.
firm tofu properly drained with just salt and pepper is really goodtomato with a tablespoon of white vinegar rulespickles
>>21670730>thinks "savory" is a plant Technically, it is also a plant, related to thyme.
>>21670903>it is also a plantThat's not what he believes though. He doesn't believe "it's ALSO a plant." He believes "it's a plant." And he unironically believes every time someone says the word "savory" it means they're referring to the plant named "savory."
>>21670923Now you think its a plant
>>21670929I don't "think" anything. I know the word "savory" has multiple applications, one of them being much more common than the other. I "think" there's a reason why you are having trouble understanding English words.
>>21670953That's not what you said before
>>21671057The problem with your poor reading comprehension is that no amount of writing will ever get through to you. Sorry, man. I can't help you.
>>21671222>>21671057>>21670953>>21670929>>21670923I think you both need a salted tomato.
>>21671264Try a tomato sandwich, faggot. Bread, a generous spread of your favorite mayo, sliced tomatos, salt, freshly cracked black pepper. That's it. I like to add some pickles and a nice quality lettuce, but those are optional.
>>21670730Oh yeah, I forgot he doesn't have a firm grasp on the English language. Isn't he a third worlder who lives in England?
>>21667539Based. Love me some tomato sammiches.
>>21671272was gonna call u gay as hell but u brought it back by mentioning pickles and lettuce
For me it's tomatoes and brie
>>21668541Never supermarket tomatoes. Savoriest tomatoes have this deep red hue. Theyre also dirty. But most importantly they should have bug marks. Think about it, if a bug doesnt want it/dies if its nearby it, is it even food?
>>21671222You're just mad you contradicted yourself
>>21672303I didn't though. Ask your ESL teacher to brush up on you.
>>21672324Yeah you did lol
>>21672442Where
>>21667232I hate the texture and taste of raw tomatoes and only eat them dried or as some form of sauce.
>>21672447>>21667530
>>21672459Not me and I don't care to read his paragraph.
>>21672466Yet here you are fighting his battle..
>>21672715Are you literally retarded? His post is not in the same reply chain as ours (and I still have no idea what he's said, because I'm not reading it)You lost this argument 10 posts ago when you got exposed for ESL.Wait hold on. I just found a guy on Tiktok who argued in favor of the word umami replacing savory. He also thinks all men should wear buttplugs and take estrogen. Why are you fighting this war for him?
>>21672740I've only made 5 posts itt
