why aren't chinese noodles popular internationally? There are stores in major cities but it's mostly frequented by chinese people. Pho and ramen are popular with everyone
gutter oilcat meatpoor hygienepoor customer serviceNobody likes the chinese
i got a pack in my local shop, it had sachets of shit like "jews ear" and "snail soup". tasted fucking disgusting and i could smell it in the kitchen for a week later
because china isn't an american lapdog so they dont get to export culture
>>21676226I tried pho once. Monumental disappointment.
>>21676229amazing you got that locally
Chow mein and ramen are chinese noodles.Are you asking about chinese noodles in the sense of the dishes eaten locally in China?
>>21676229you can say the same with other chinese food but they're popularnot the noodles tho
>>21676226Chow mein exists. If you're talking about chinese noodles with soup, thats prob cause thats not the main specialty. For Chinese restaurant Fried rice/chow mein seems to be the thing.
>>21676226>why aren't chinese noodles popular internationally?lo mein exists in every city in america.and america is all that matters, you're proven wrong.
>>21676229This board never fails to disappoint when it comes to brainless bot-tier memespouting
>>21676226they arenigger you are retarded
>>21676226>There are stores in major cities but it's mostly frequented by chinese people.If you say so!
>>21676226IMO, a few things:Low-end or poorly made Chinese noodle dishes can have flavors that are somewhat off-putting to westerners. Popular Chinese noodle dishes *look* a lot more flavorful than pho or ramen do, so if you taste them and they end up being super bland, it's extremely disappointing. Beef noodle soup tends to be guilty of this. There's a lot of varieties and they're hard to keep track of, and even within those varieties, there's a lot of regional and non-regional variations that change the dish pretty significantly. People like to know what they're ordering, and that's a lot harder to do with authentic Chinese food than with Japanese or Vietnamese food. All pho is the pretty much the same, and there's only a few main types of ramen, and they're all much more similar to each other than they are different.
>>21676422Traditional chinese soups themselves are offputting by name.Fish maw soupCrab meat cornWest lake beefSeeing a whole fish head or crab bones, or gristle in your pot upsets people, so do rubbery pieces of dried scallops, or shrimp shells. All of the soups, including won ton, hot and sour, and egg drop in my closest local spot has shrimp allergen on the menu.
What the fuck are "Chinese noodles"? Do you mean fresh egg noodles? Do you mean spaghetti? Do you mean udon, rice noodles, squid ink noodles, fast food, shit from xiaopingdongsuck cuckshao province?Fuck this shit thread and fuck you.
Because flour or wheat products in western countries are used for bread or pasta usually.
taiwanese hand cut squiggly noodles are amazing
>>21676226Zero nutritional value, like french fries but not as tasty.
>>21676226>why aren't chinese noodles popular internationally?>pho and ramenAnonarino, where do you think the Viets and Japanese learned how to make noodles?
>>21676226most grocery stores have a small section of asian noodles, next to the premade flavor packets, but still its not obvious to people who dont know about it which ones to do
>>21676226I like good Chinese food.Most Chinese takeout places are questionable, and the Amerifat chains like panda Express or Leean chin are mid
Most chinese american places will have at least a bbq pork noodle soup. Nobody really cares though because canto-american food is considered an embarrassment and modern mainland china has failed at every attempt to cultivate soft power.
>>21676226Szechuan peppercorns are not a universally loved flavor. The unique numbing heat is kind of love/hate.A lot of chinese noodle recipes are unrelentingly hot. I'm not talking like mexican or indian hot, I'm talking 1/4" layer of red chili oil floating on top of the broth hot. The heat just drowns out the flavor if you're not used to it.
Why is ceekay so fucking racist?>>21676229
>>21676641racism is very, very funny
>>21676226Bro give me the bao bun. Make it general tsao and bao bun at all american chinese places. Not necessarily in the bun, you can fill that with whatever is tasty maybe the vegetables or some bbq pork.
>>21676259/thread
>>21676458she's not talking about instant ramen
>>21676229Chinese food is, no exaggerating, at least one hundred times more popular than any other Asian food in the US discounting Middle Eastern food that happens to be on Asia like Lebanese grillsRamen and Sushi places are still the only thing and considered a novelty, like Medieval Times. For every Japanese place in a city there's twenty Chinese places. Chinese food is American food, they were here since the wild west
>>21677599>Ramen and Sushi places are still the only thing and considered a novelty, like Medieval Times. For every Japanese place in a city there's twenty Chinese places. Chinese food is American food, they were here since the wild westJapan was a cultural non entity in America until the 80s, after we nuked them they overhauled trying to appeal to Americans with exports. That's when anime became known in any meaningful way, when anybody cared about Nintendo, and likewise sushi became like a novelty for Cali liberal yuppies.Zoomers born in the 00s think Japan is way more important than it is because they grew up on ramen from deadbeat Gen X grunge era parents, watching slop like DBZ and Naruto, being terminal gamers, and etc, but even still Japan is barely relevant beyond these meme like things
>>21676226When I go out for Chinese food I always get rice because they do it so well. I have seen the noodles and they look too thick and probably soft. I don't know what they're doing back there. I know the rice and fried rice is always perfect. I love pho because it's rice noodles. I'm guessing Chinese noodles are wheat. They just seem ballooned up usually. Your image just looks like Italian spaghetti noodles in brown broth. That's fine too I guess. I just want certain things from Chinese food since I was a kid and I usually stay within those parameters. Maybe I'll give noodles more of a chance. I don't eat a lot of carbs anymore so I get Egg Foo Yung and vegetables and soup when I get Chinese food now.
>>21677599>Sushi places are still considered a noveltyDo you live in Iowa?
>>21676641The entire site was overrun with displaced bigots from social media sites like Tumblr and Twitter and Reddit when they cracked down on moderating hatespeech. They took sanctuary here and other such absolute free speech forums. They kind of took over. Racism and schizophrenia now rule. The most deplorable retards you hear about on the news who reject everything and think everything is a sinister coverup by "them"; yeah, they have been posting here almost a decade now. Pretending like anyone who doesn't want them here is new or unwelcome. But the main issue is the rules against racism aren't really enforced unless it's REALLY blatant. I'm sure they know better than to bite the hand that feeds. Some of those incels and weebs are clicking the ads here, after all. Anger and hatred make for more engagement. That's why everyone is such a raging asshole. >you wanna be nice? Go to reddit!That's their simple binary thinking here.
>>21677673You're under 30 and didn't post in the 00s. I did, we were much more openly racist.
The best part is that we all know these racist dicks who talk such a big game online, they totally LOVE Chinese and Indian food. They'd have you believe they refuse to eat ethnic food because of 'brown hands' or some shit, but they do eat it locally. Probably more than you or I.
>>21677599That's American 'Chinese' food, it doesn't actually have anything to do with China or Chinese people. Chinese food is the aforementioned cat meat, we don't eat that here in the first world.>>21676229Honestly, fpbp. This pretty much sums up why Chinese noodles aren't popular internationally.
>>21677679I'm 44 and first posted during Obama's first term. No, you were not more openly racist here, you were on /b/ though. And the jew conspiratard shit was nothing like this. Nothing. The racism bleeding into all the other blue boards is within ten years. And it's not jokey, ironic racism like it was. It's serious and hateful. It's "kill them all". The entire tone of the website has changed, in my estimation for the worse, over the last decade. For people who just love to spout their hatred and disinformation and racial slurs, the place has only gotten better and brought in more compatriots. But for many of us normal people who have empathy and compassion for others, this place is a dark and hollow husk of the fun it used to be. The actual serious bigots are here now, whereas in 2009 I could see through it for the irony it was.
>>21677682So the very worst practices IN China affect the popularity in America? Nope.You guys seem to think normal people are up on these vertical videos of disgusting street-shitter footage. Americans do not believe local Chinese restaurants inside of America serve cats or even have access to "gutter oil". It's not imported or available here. And it's overblown clickbait bullshit that they cook with it over there. You're a terminally-online zoomer incel and you have no authority or education to make such statements. No one thinks Chinese food is cat meat. You're trying too hard to be edgy.
>>21677692And before you say "but I was here back then and I'm one of those serious bigots", no you weren't. You've been radicalized since then. It was all in good fun when you were a teenager. Now you sincerely believe a lot of that shit and are up to your ears in conspiracy theories and "pilled" thinking. Completely derailed. Most of you won't ever come back.
>>21676226Fried noodles are often Chinese, mostly Cantonese style so there's that, and a lot of people are super familiar with "fried noodles". There just isn't one "main" dish to represent the Chinese however, unlike how Japan has Ramen or Vietnam with Pho. Chinese noodles has a lot of decent forms but it's just not easily marketable to international markets.
>>21677692That's right boomerIts not all fun and games anymore is it
>>21676226Wouldn't really be profitable. Ramen has pure Nippon stock simmered and stirred over 1000 times. Pho is the same meme, but Vietnamese. Ethnic food doesn't have the popularity to make a profit from scale. They have to sell more expensive, profitable items. A place selling bowls of $7 chili oil noodles would probably sell pretty well, but not at a scale high enough to make a living.
>>21676226Chinese "food" is unpalatable, even to them. Thats why they drown everything in that shitty chili oil. But you said it yourself, utterly mogged by ramen.
>>21677698>Americans do not believe local chinese restaraunts inside of America...They don't serve cat meat, no. What they do is serve American 'Chinese' food, like I was saying. The 'Chinese' food that we think of as tasty, that's popular all over the world, is actually an invention of American culinary culture that we just call 'Chinese food' because its the sector of business that was heavily pushed towards Chinese diaspora living in the States by giving them sweetheart deals to get established in a pre-determined market, in the same way that we gave most of the off-vegas Casinos to the Native American tribes.Actual Chinese food, meaning coming from China, is cat meat and gutter oil because they're disgusting and there aren't any food standards in China. They're not going to get away with Cat meat living in the U.S.
>>21677673Some journalist did an expose on the mods here before that happened. Some PTSD fuck head who didn't get his fill killing overseas made his way up the ranks of the janitors, then mods, and made it policy that any reports of racism on boards outside were to be ignored initially. The racists took over the inside way before the other sites kicked them off.
>>21677813You're boring
>>21676226Because Italian ones are better.
>>21676226People (rightfully) don't trust food manufactured in China.
>>21677692>that picEveryone was having a laugh at 4chan being called "far left" when this happened you newfag.
>>21677692fag
good but not that healthy