Post what bottles ya got open>Wild Turkey 8 year>Willett 4-year rye>Knob Creek 18 year>Knob Creek 12 year>Old Forester SiB store pick>Four Roses Small Batch Select>Balvenie 12 (it was a gift)
>>21683401Whatever is 99¢ per nip at the liquor store.
>>21683401>Post what bottles ya got openuh, okredbreast 12tyrconnellmonkey shoulderglendronach 12deanston 12glen livet 12caol ila 12loch lomond 12torabhaig allt gleannledaig 10laphroaig 10 sherry oakardbeg 10defiant single maltlocal straight wheat whiskeymiddle west pumpernickel ryebulleit ryenew riff malted ryeold overholdt BiB'llow cornjim beam BiBevan williams BiBheaven hill BiBrussell's reserve SiBrhum j.m. blanc 100rhum neisson blanc 100smith and crossnovo fogo cachaca (barrel aged)g4 blanco 108siete leguas blanco and repoel tesoro blancomezcal union el viejodomaine d'esperance xoluxardo grappacapel piscologia pisco quebrantadaron calvadosbistra slivovitzbols genevergenepysuzelocal absintheamaro montenegroamaro di angosturacocktail slop (cointreau, campari, angostura bitters, stirrings pomegranate)sobieski and luksusowatakara shuzo yokaichi mugi and komerecently deceased: old forester rye
>>21683579>old overholdt BiBmy nigga>>21683579recently deceased: old forester ryehow are their ryes? I haven't had one yet
>>21683640idk I found it kind of bland but not disagreeable. It is the ONLY thing in that entire list where I preferred it on a rock instead of neat because the cold lended nicely to the barley sweetness. It grew on me and it’s so cheap it’s not a “waste” of money but ultimately I’ll probably just stick with bulleit rye cause MGP is based and bulleit is one of the cheapest and readily available ways to get itsomeone in the last thread claimed bulleit stopped sourcing their rye but I couldn’t find any information on that as far as I can tell it’s still MGP
>>21683665If you want a rye that's a bit more pricey but excellent look for Sagamore's stuff. They used to be MGP but recently started using their own distillate. Michter's Rye is my other go-to for under $60 ryes, absolutely delicious
Is Knob Creek 12 worth paying double the price of Knob Creek 9?
>>21683953A lot of people love the 12 year but to me it tastes similar to the 9 year. The 9 year used to be my go to for years so maybe i'm just tired of it.
>>21683401>Ardbeg Uigeadail>Kilchoman 13yr>infinity bottleThink the 13yr is my favorite right now, flavors changing and picking up new notes every time I pour from it
>>21683777I’ve had both and like em both, though in the latter case I tend to shy away from 51% rye (which most non-MGPs are) cause when I want rye I want RYE not some bourbon mulatto kek
>>21684106glenlivet 14indri trini single maltthe latter one was gifted to me, highly recommend it. Slightly peaty, good flavor. I don’t drink much anymore.
>>21684106>>21684131meant to reply to op
>>21683777>Michter'sBarely legal garbage.
>>21684137My favourite category
>>21683401Scapa 16GlenScotia 18Talisker 11 special release 2022Balvenie 14 Caribbean cask Four Roses Single Barrel OBSFOld Forester 1920Will be starting to break out more of the sherry bombs now that there’s a little chill in the air
Bros, is WT101 the best it gets?
>>21683401>What you got open>Ben Holiday 8 year>Ben Holiday 6 year SRW Cask Strength>Blantons>Weller SR>Whiskey Acres BIB>Octomore 15.1>Laphroaig 10 year>Springbank 10 year>Wild Turkey 101
>>21684686>Ben HolidayI got the BiB after hearing great things and I thought it was...fine. I need to try the cast strength and see if I like that better.
>>21685181The Cask Strength and new 8 year are much better than the BiB
>>21685182>>21685181Also, get the Soft Red Wheat.
>>21683401Just opened Elijah Craig 18 and it’s underwhelming. I’m gonna make some more poor man’s pappy and cry myself to sleep over the price tag for this flavorless swill
Some anon recommended Eagle Rare some time ago. i just wanted to say...it's not good at all
Domain De Canton (French Import)Coconut Rum (Tortuga, Caribbean Exclusive)St. Germains Becherovka (Czech Import)Fuck you donny for (making the other countries ***ME*** pay) bichass tariffs my euro liqueurs.
>>21684643I've really yet to find a better American whiskey overall. 101 is shockingly good for what it is, and at American prices it would have to be the best pound for pound whiskey for the cost. It's just so versatile, and even the other Wild Turkeys are mostly inferior to it in that regard.
>>21685190I did, I had the Soft Red Wheat BiB
>>21685207You should have expected that based on its low-rye mash bill.Wheated and low-rye bourbons are sissy foo-foo bourbons for women and homosexuals.
Killed the Kirkland BiB and opened this, made a Bourbon Rickey Man this is tasty, I cant stop buying it
What are our favourites?https://www.liquor.com/slideshows/bourbon-cocktails/
>>21683579Barman?
>>21685207Bourbon is made from corn, why do people drink it?IT'S MADE FROM US CORN!
>>21683579>middle west pumpernickel ryethinking about getting one of these, thoughts?
>>21686008Patrician taste!
>>21687317Nope just a tardStarted off with “essentials” for cocktails if I had company (1 tequila, 1 gin, 1 bourbon, 1 light rum, 1 dark rum, etc) which over the years turned into “oh I need a peated and unpeated scotch, agricoles and traditional rums,” etc. Into “what’s the best scotch at this price bracket” and accumulated multiples of the same type and excitedly opening new bottles before finishing the old bottles because I saw it as a chore to get through. Now that I’ve settled down and found what I like I just have a massive backlog of legit 50-60 opened bottles that looms over my head cause I’d rather drink the nicer stuff than slog through all that $20 bourbon. Also some were gifts or stocking up from sales (that list is only the opened bottles)Anyway just cracked a new russells reserve 10 (got like 10% left of the heaven hill BiB that it will be replacing)While I’m aware it’s not good to have all that shit oxidizing all at once it’s quite nice to have free access to quite literally whatever the fuck I’m in the mood for. Still trying to cull it down to a more reasonable 30 or so lol
>>21687697it’s fucking kino and I intend for it to be a permanent staple of my cabinet (currently on second bottle of it in a row). Outside of MGP and 51% mashbill sloppa it’s the undisputed king of the under $70 bracket that I’ve encounteredI wanna try their white lightning rye but my flyover has shit distribution so maybe if I’m ever in Ohio
>>21683401cheap mixersangels envyfour roses single barreljack danielswoodford reservebuffalo tracebulleittx blended whiskeytexas silver stardalmore 12
>>21683401Open? >Penelope Wheated>Penelope Architect creme brulee >Balcones single malt>Old Fitzgerald 7 year BiB>Jack Daniels single barrel barrel proof 23-23020>Four Roses single barrel 60-1A>Four Roses single barrel 20-2 0>Four Roses single barrel 5-1 M>Old Forester 1920>Old Forester single barrel barrel proof H-4 Wisconsin>Henry McKenna 16420>Henry McKenna 13072>Henry McKenna 14712>Eagle Rare>Jack Daniels single barrel heritage 25-06160>Very Old Barton >Buffalo Trace
enjoying the old ezra 7 year with some mexican coke>Post what bottles ya got openMacallan harmony inspired by intense arabicaBunnahabhain 12 yearBunnahabhain 12 year cask strengthJAck Daniels Sinatra selectGlenlivet signatory vintage unchillfilteredcaol ila signatory vintage unchillfiltered aged in a hogsheadhibiki harmonyglen scotia double caskearly times bottled in bondold ezra brooks 7 year barrel strengthsazeracwild turkey rye 101george dickel tabascogrand old parr 12 yearscots goldj&b rare (diageo product, D E L I C I O S O)i've made a lot of progress in eliminating my open bottles. i think by about half
>>21685207>Falling for the Buffalo Trace shill campaign >>21684643>>21685610No because Rare Breed and Russell’s Reserve sib exist.
What does /wg/ think about the new design of Macallan?
Want to get into whiskey but want to avoid the tastes of liquified tree bark and paint thinner, max price I'm willing to go is $150, what would you all reccomend
>>21690414Try Macallan Double Cask 12 and Hibiki Japanese Harmony. You should get both of these for about 150€ on Amazon. If you want more Sherry try Glendronach 12 instead of Macallan.
>>21690414>Doesnt like the taste of tree bark Maybe whiskey isn’t for you try drinking some milk out of a sippy cup
>>21690394The bottle is fine but I keep thinking it's some special Christmas edition or something. Box looks like a candycane.
>>21690414>want to avoid the tastes of liquified tree bark and paint thinnerYeah I remember when all I drank was Mountain Dew, you’ll grow up one day (maybe)
>>21687770Depending on your state, order it online.Looks like 9.99 shipping. I may order two.https://shop.middlewestspirits.com/products/middle-west-spirits-straight-rye-whiskey-dark-pumpernickel
>>21689130>>Henry McKenna 16420>>Henry McKenna 13072>>Henry McKenna 14712Madman.
Ardbeg 10Lagavulin 11 Offerman Rum caskDriftless Glenn Rye single barrelDriftless Glenn Rye single barrel (diff barrel)Kirkland Anejo TequilaKirkland 16yr HighlandKirkland 20 year RumKirkland 12 yr Rum in port casksBuffalo TraceHighland Park 12Springbank 10
>>21690665>Drinking rotgut swill on purpose is a sign of character or being machoIndian logic
>>21691369>drinking sugar water baby formula is a sign of intelligence or being traditionalRetarded logic
>>21691369To a man whiskey doesn’t taste like rot gut, it tastes good. Go back to sipping a seltzer.
>>21690414>I don't want the taste of woodThen don't drink whiskey.Retarded faggot.
>>21691281>your state>order it onlinelollmao
>>21690414Whiskey isn’t for everyone, try a 4roses small batch for like 30-35 bucks depending on your market - it has good flavor and no crazy heat notes and will get you used to the flavor of rye. There is a learning curve for everyone to get your palate used to wood and rye. Then when you’re ready to test yourself get an Elijah Craig private barrel selection from a local place that you trust and will let you know it’s a good selection and try some barrel proof.
>>21690414Your learning curve is much more rapid than you would think but the key to whiskey is sipping and enjoying smaller quantities and taking your time with it. Chase it with a Pilsner or lager after you’ve let the aftertaste of the whiskey sit on your tongue and die out for a while. Then when you’re ready for something really fun try a Lagavulin and your mouth will taste like you smoked cigars all night the next morning. Then you will be on your way to loving all the flavors you once thought you hated and realize that good whiskey is like drinking wd40 and wood If you don’t like that idea then 4 roses small batch is enough and enjoyable also try old forester 100 for less rye and thinner and sweeter and I think anyone could enjoy those, also if you like old forester 100 you might like woodford standard proof and woodford double oaked. The point of whiskey isn’t to buy just one but to try different stuff.
>>21690414Whiskey is A tincture of charred wood And alcohol is a solvent It really can’t be helped, in fact the people who like whiskey actually like drinking wood and grain based solvent
>>21692213for me? it’s whiskey blanco
>>21683401Just got a bottle of Angel's Envy and am looking forward to it, only had it once in the past and I remember enjoying it
>>21692067>Then when you’re ready for something really fun try a Lagavulin and your mouth will taste like you smoked cigars all night the next morning.This but Laphroaig, Ardbeg, or Kilchoman instead because Lagavulin is garbage.
I just bought a bottle of Russell’s reserve single barrel what am I in for?
>>21692655I love Wild Turkey, but have never tried Russell's. I might have to get a bottle one day to try it
>>21692647yeah
>>21692655Russell's Single Barrel was one of the bottles to shape my tastes in whiskey. Russell's and Baker small batch.Tonight I'm drinking pic related because I got nothing better to do and its damn fine rye whiskey
whisky hurts my tummy :(
Hungover as fuck from beer, miss my whiskey sips
Knob creek 9 is the best budget pour.
>>21691908>prohibition was 90 years ago>still have 3-tier alcohol distribution laws
>>21692970Pussy faggot.
Opened my Russell’s reserve last night and I am kind of disappointed
What's a good whiskey that's actually god damn cheap or affordable brehs, they removed wild turkey 101s from all the stores close to me
Are any of the C*nadian brands any good?
>>21683401Niggas bein niggas, thats what they sayNiggas beatin bitches, thats what they say
based japan
>>21694855
>>21689740>j&b rareIs that the green skinny bottle? I thought it was good. It's Patrick Bateman's go to
I hate whiskey and alcohol in general
>>21683579I'll never understand people like this. Finish the fucking bottles.
Open>corryvreckan>kilkerran heavily peated>ardnamurchan CS>Old Forester 1920 Prohibition>BookersPicking up this week>Springbank 5 100p>maybe Laphroaig 10 CSI generally don't like bourbon but that Forester is breddy ok>>21684560How is that Talisker 11 I've been thinking about picking it up
>>21696373If you like Talisker in general it’s really a no brainer - I like this one just as much, if not more than, the 15 year special release from 2019 that seems to be universally beloved by whisky guys
>>21696342If I finish them I can’t sample them against new purchases.
>>21696537The COC gripper behind the keyboard really ties the whole theme together
Buffalo trace is an overrated distillery. Wild Turkey and Jim Beam are both 20x better and you can find their bottles on the shelf for msrp. When will the ipa soy boys who started buying whiskey during covid fuck off.
>>21696342>Finish the fucking bottles.workin on it chief>I'll never understand people like this.It's a backlog. If I sat down and drank a responsible 2 glasses a day it would take me over a year (and that's if I ONLY drank liquor and never beer, wine, cider, mead, sake, or whatever). So more like 2-3+ years of never buying a single whiskey again that I'm curious about because I'm too focused on slugging through $20 pisco and luxardo cherry liqueur. Also some were gifts which got cracked with whatever person gave me the bottle at the time.But yeah I'd say my collection is obviously extremely out of hand and I try to give away bottles whenever I get the chance but it's wasteful to outright pour them down the drain. Also I have two vodkas because I thought I ran out then found the quarter full one buried in the back of the shelf kek.Reiterating the upside:>I’m aware it’s not good to have all that shit oxidizing all at once [but] it’s quite nice to have free access to quite literally whatever the fuck I’m in the mood foras well as >>21696484Also in my case a lot of it is left over from the exploratory phase of when I was first "getting into" liquors and now that I know what I like I won't be buying an eclectic variety of swill but fewer and more carefully chosen nicer bottles.Still to cover all the bases of having a mezcal, an agricole, a vodka, a gin, ~3 barley whiskies, ~2 ryes, etc. my core "reasonable" collection is still gonna be like 25 bottles lol.Also good to have duplicates of a given category (a cheap peated scotch and an expensive peated scotch) but I wouldn't bother doing that with liquor families I hardly drink since just the one bottle is already sitting there oxidizing for too long (killing the grappa first before buying a nicer one)
Are the boomers right about the crash of the whiskey market? My local bum fuck liquor store randomly got a big shipment of fancy bottles they never have. They had E.H Taylor, Blanton gold, eagle rare, and bookers sitting on the shelf. They just have over expanded during Covid and now the bored people who started buying up all the buffalo trace products have moved on to the next big thing. This place was high though they wanted 100 for Taylor and Blantons, 75 for eagle rare and 200 for bookers. Only rednecks and trailer park people go to this place and buy beer and nips. Those bottles will be sitting a while.
>>21692925me too
>>21696715that's somethign an ipa boy would say desu the truth is buffalo trace is beloved by whiskey drinkers and the hype is just word of mouth. before the bourbon craze started, it was readily available on shelves and people found out it tasted fucking good so they kept asking for it. every bottle they put out is a step above the competition in its price tier
>>21698942How much is sazerac paying you to shill tater trace? It’s all over for Buffalo trace their scheme of fake hype and artificial scarcity is coming to an end. Now that trump has shut down the Canadian and Asian bourbon markets with tariffs and soy boys have moved on to tequila your reign of terror is over. Finally God has won and the blessed distilleries of wild turkey and Jim Beam can return to their rightful place at the top of the bourbon hierarchy.
>>21698958the only marketing scheme they did was to put out the best products and price them too low
>>21698962Tater trace products are flooding liquor stores right now. The secondary market for things like er 10 and eht small batch are non existant. The whole scheme behind allocations bottles to stores based on them being able to sell all of the other crappy liquor sazerac shills is over because they have a surplus with no where to dump it now. Sazerac had been content to sell their whiskey in limited supply while hawking all their other crappy brands to turn a profit. It’s all tumbling down now. God bless the Russell’s.
>>21698630>BT bottles being sold for over MSRPThe crash isn't happening where you live then. There's some places like CA and AZ where EH Taylor and Eagle Rare sit on shelves without markups, but it's not everywhere yet. Probably has to do with their (((supposed))) practice of prioritizing allocations for stores that sell a lot of Fireball and Wheatley Vodka.
>>21683401RedbreastBasil HaydenJim Beam
>>21698958dont forget my nigga Heaven HillLarceny and Elijah Craig BP are the pinnacle of high proofers
>>21699020I bottled my own barrel-proof of Larceny at Heaven Hill and shared it with my family at my wedding, it barely lasted 2 days. Shit was delicious, but my wife got the Elijah Craig Rye BP and that was even better.
Jamesons standardBushmills sherry cask
>>21699181simple, elegant, trashy, efficienti like it
>>21696537For some reason (import tax?) in Australia; Jim Beam white label is only 37%
>>21685207>Capitalize Eagle Rare but not i…
>>21699747It's not the import tax that's the reason for the reduction, although there might be duty or tarrifs idk it's not why.It's that alcohol has an excise tax on the actual alcohol content.Going from 40% to 37% makes the manufacturer an extra $2 in profit.Wine is treated differently and has a 29% flat tax on the wholesale value. So it becomes much cheaper. So a Aldi brand 12.5% abv bottle of wine can be sold for $6 but a 40% abv 700ml bottle of whiskey is $55 when an equivalent alcohol volume of wine would only be $19.One additional loophole is that Apple & Pear Cider is taxed as wine, which has lead to some dodgy loophole abuse where a company makes 1.25l bottles of 8% of what they call cider, but is basically just soft drink with ethanol added and sells them for $7 when the same amount of regular vodka or gin would be $30 just for the alcohol.
>>21699813Yeah I remember maybe 5-years ago (probably before coronavirus ramped up in 2020) you could get a bottle of Jim Beam white label in Australia for $38 tops. I remember because it was the cheapest "name brand" bourbon you could buy. Now the standard price is at least $53 AUD. Even Evan Williams (which is 40%) came out a few years ago here and sold for $45 a bottle for months, but now of course it is already up to $58. Drinking any whisky becomes more and more of a luxury item.
>>21700442>$38 USD for Evan Williamsjesus that's fucking grim
I bought a kc sib store pick today. It was the same price as kc 12. Did I make the right choice?
>>21700681If KC12 is readily available in your area, then probably yes, but as someone who has to go out of state to find it I'm never turning down a KC12
>>21700442>>2169974753 aud = ~35 usd
Vodka drinking canuck, I've tried a few whiskeys and never "gotten" it before. Mostly cheap shit: Crown, Jim Beam, Wild Turkey, Alberta Premium, and White Owl. Anyone have ANY suggestions? I can offer my vodka preferences if it helps.
>>21700745Knob creek 9 or wild turkey 101 are good bottles to try that won’t set you back much if you don’t like them. I particularly like knob creek 9.
>>21700745maybe bulleit rye?or wild turkey 101cheaper shit is for mixing with coke
>>21700668And STILL a better value than any Johnnie Walker in America!
I feel like I drink too much, bit I just genuinely enjoy the taste. I only sip like 2 shots after work
>>21700693This place pretty regularly has kc 12 for 65 dollars. I might go back and get it tomorrow.
>>217008442 shots every day after work might be a bit much depending on the proof. I used to have just a dram every day, but cut that down (mainly due to the price)
>>21700745berta preem is pretty good for cheap shit. what are you trying to "get"?
>>21700942Do it, best value in bourbon imo
>>21700745elijah craig, buffalo trace, woodford reserve, four roses, old forester
>>21700713Yeah but they get the full 40% over there, here we get 37% for $53 AUD. Here you have to buy Jim Beam black label for 40%, but it's $66 AUD.
>>21692506>using science to justify drinking the cheapest, harshest swill possibleI think a few drinkers here have gone tongueblind
>>21686008i just cracked a kirkland bib a few nights ago. im enjoying it well enough compared to the giant bottle of buffalo trace i usually buy there. canada doesn’t have the same selection as the burgers get
>>21701658I’m pretty sure Kirkland bib is just 1792 bib. Barton makes all of the whiskey for Costco.
>>21701647>he doesn't care about the base spirit only the wood it absorbsfor me? it's barrel aged vodka
Allocated release day for the month is this weekend. Anyone picking up something good for the holidays?
>>21701749Bottle list
>>21700754>>21700779I'll try wild turkey 101 near the end of the month probably, thanks for the recommendations>>21701056I'm trying to "get" what people like about whiskey, I've not found one I like but surely there's one out there I might. I'd like to give it a proper shot before just deciding I don't like whiskey.>>21701158I think I'm pretty close to a woodford reserve distillery actually, might do their tour, thanks!
>>21684018I started with bourbon then scotch now in an Irish whiskey phase
What about mixed drinks?
>>21701749I have a mothball era glendronach 21 parliament (really 23) that’s my best bottle and something I’ve been saving for years for a special occasion but I decided im going to open it up on Christmas this year. Ive seen a few too many posts on whisky forums with people trying to appraise dead relatives collections my mindset has changed to “enjoying it while I can” lmao
>>21702112>I'm trying to "get" what people like about whiskeyTry scotch. Every rec you’ve gotten so far is american whiskey, and they’re all good recs (I’d second bulleit rye and WT101 and also add russells reserve and new riff malted rye) but frankly bourbon doesn’t really scratch that itch like scotch does for me. I like bourbon, but I’m not IN to bourbon like others are. Idk what your liquor market is like but I’d strongly recommend deanston 12 for unpeated (might be a little harder to find) and you can’t go wrong with ardbeg (ubiquitous) for peated.
>>21702112>>21702494Forgot to mention Old Grandad 114, Glendronach 12, and Glenfarclas 10. Though both of the latter have been getting pricier lately hence why they slipped my mind
>>21700745If you can find Four Roses Small Batch Select that's a good value
>>21702509Christ and edradour and kilchoman and ledaig and torabhaig. Closing out of this tab before I get the impulse to run to the liquor store
>>21696537>>21699747Have a bottle open right now and am struggling to get through it, not good.>>21700745>>21702112Hello fellow vodka drinking nuck:Lot 40 Rye (Canadian)Greenspot (Irish)Bushmills Blackbush (Irish)In that order, are my favourite whiskeys.
>>21702554Jim beam isn’t really meant to be a sipping whiskey unless you grew up drinking white dog in the trailer park. Knob creek is where you want to start your beam tasting experience.
This stuff isn't discussed much I think it's delicious
How’s that knob creek 9 single barrel (120 proof) stack up against the rest of the core lineup is it better than the 12 or what
>>21702645>meme liquorWe get it, it tastes like shit and all you Chicagoans think it's funny when other people try it
>>21702645It's objectively not
>>21702645It's not as bad as Talisker, but it's pretty fucking bad.
>>21702861Don't blame all Chicagoans for this shit. The only people that ever bring up marlot are borderline homosexual, millennial redditors.
>>21683401Old CrowI buy it by the plastic handle.
really just gets the job done. nice on some ice after a long day.
>>21704344if you're gonna water it down anyways why not spend the extra $ and get the barrel proof?
>>21704439For me at least, barrel proof is 2-2.5x the price.Small batch is $29.99Private barrels and barrel proofs are $74.99-86.99
>>21704439ive just always been a lightweight. 94 elijah craig is honestly pretty strong for me already
>>21702554Replace that green spot with redbreast.
>>21701974at cost,fortaleza reposadoand the lagavulin 12 year special release looks neat
>>21701974>>21704765meant>at msrpnot >at cost
Wild turkey 101 is the best value in bourbon.
>>21704765>>21704767It's government run, so it's priced at MSRP generally.The only times it'll cost more than MSRP is when the distributor is charging them more than MSRP.And yeah I was thinking about grabbing the lag, though the 12 year is always pricey, at least it's under $200/bottle.
I bought myself a bottle of Tomatin Legacy.It tastes like water.
>>21706255That’s what happens with whiskey under 90 proof.
>>21706329It's not the proof. I've had plenty of 40% bottles that were perfectly fine.What the fuck were they thinking with this shit?
>40%Into the trash it goes.
>>21706540Anon to get to such a low proof they have to add a lot of water. Most scotch comes out of the cask at 120ish proof. Adding that much water kills the texture and dilutes the flavor.
>>21706606>>21706755Not true. Half the reason they go around testing the older barrels from time to time is to make sure the abv isn’t dropping below 40% where they can no longer sell it as whisky. I personally avoid 40% myself but there’s plenty of good stuff at 43 and the idea that “true whisky drinkers only drink cask strength” is an opinion only novices hold
>>21706755I've had plenty of 40% whiskey that tastes fantastic, i've also had 60%+ stuff that tastes horrible.Lower proof doesn't mean it HAS to be watery.
>>21706783>>21706786Truthfully I don’t drink liquor made for women like scotch so I wasn’t really sure about the proofing but googles ai disagrees with you. I drink barrel strength bourbon, the masculine choice. Once you get below 100 proof the flavor and mouth feel takes a big hit. 110-120 is the sweet spot for a sipping whiskey.
>>21706810This post is almost TOO based, only brought back down to earth by referencing to google ai, which is gay and not based.
>>21706783>40%Into the trash it goes.
>>21706810>googles ai
>>21706993>>21707100AI is the future you guys sound like boomers yelling at people to get off their lawn. Google is a trustworthy company and would never intentionally deceive us about average proof for cask strength Scotch or any else for that matter.
>>21707100>>21707124
I don't have a problem with Google AI overviews because they provide links that you can factcheck with to make sure it's not hallucinating. The AI overviews serve their intended purpose well, which is to answer most questions much more quickly than a search without it would.Luddites are mentally ill.>40%Into the trash it goes.
currently sipping old turkey rye w some rockswtf is rye so expensive in aus bros?
if you've ever wondered why jack daniels old no. 7 is so delicious while evan williams white label tastes like watery shit it's because the lincoln county process actually takes place before the whiskey is aged, not after
>>21707551>they provide linksThe links were written with AI too
>>21706810congrats on the mind prison but I just drink shit I like the taste of
>>21707551>he cares about (You)s this much
>>21709782I care about (You) this much :)
>>21701703yeah its about the same Imo, just crazy for $24 for a liter
>>21701749>>21701974My Maryland man PLEASEAlso its bull that they charge $80 for Blantons, but my local has been having BT on the shelf so meh
Has anyone tried the glenfiddich 12 cakes or pies?
>>21714024>glenfiddich 12 flavoredSo they taste like water?
>>21683579>genepyJust get some green Chartreuse. It's not as hard to find as it used to be, and you obviously aren't limited by budget.
>>21715639the water of life :)
Vodka Canuck reporting, tired Bushmills (black) and Grant's between rec's of everyone here and my two friends who like whiskey; I liked the Bushmills more than Grants straight, but the Bushmills mixed so much better into coke, orange juice + vanilla extract, and sparkling lemonade, but it was close. Both were better than a mile than anything I'd tried before, but I'm not sure I "liked" them so much as I didn't not like them. I disliked what I can only describe as a "mustard-y" flavour in the Grants, but I liked the almost smokey nature of the Bushmills. Whiskey friends are recommending Writer's Tears and/or Glenfiddich Next, I'm thinking Glenfiddich though. My rationale is that I've seen Writer's Tears at a few bars in the area but never seen Glenfiddich, so if I'm committing to a bottle I might as well get something "unique." Thoughts?
>>21715986Bushmills black is a pretty good whiskey. How much are you looking to spend? Bushmills 10 and 12 are everything that’s good about Bushmills black but cranked up to 11. Bushmills 12 is the best Irish whiskey under 100 dollars in my opinion.
>>21715997I think the max I'm willing to go is ~$75CAD (~$55USD) for a single bottle most of the time. (I might buy something pricier once or twice a year for an event.) I'm willing to go ~$125CAD (~90USD) for a bottle outside of an event, but probably not in the near future. I think I'm looking at a $120CAD ($86USD) bottle of glenlivet for January, unless something new vodka comes along my area.
>>21716070Bushmills 12 costs 55 dollars near me in the good ole U S of A
>>21716085Similar for me, in Maryland.
>>21715662it's like $70 around here compared to genepy's ~$30 but yeah it's obviously better>>21715986depends on what the writer's tears goes for I've seen it anywhere from $30-$70 (USD). Wouldn't spend more than say $40 on it. Glenfiddich is fine ig but see if you can't find any of the ones I recommended in >>21702494 >>21702509 >>21702533 for a comparable price
>>21715986Alternately, you could try something that isn't bland basic bitch shit.
>>21707124AI is censored shit for boomer retards to gawk at Give me a decent AI not formed by a committee of scared seething borderline schitzo retards and we can talk
Hey guys me again, reminding you that whiskey is a stupid hobby and I hate whiskey
>>21717140Deepseek. Sure, you can't talk about Tiananmen Square, but it's relatively uncensored. You can even run it locally if you have some serious hardware.I hate to say it but China is going to beat the U.S. in the AI war if the U.S. continues to insist on heavily lobotomizing its models because research indicates that safetyshit (actually mostly ideological alignment which makes the models hate white people) makes models dumber.
Just bought some laphroaig 10. Very strong taste, but nice. I was afraid it would be sharp like some cheaper whiskeys, but it is not.
>>21717474Yeah, beyond the smoke and medicinal/vegetal peat there's a very nice, rather pronounced vanillin sweetness to it.I'm pissed that my local Costco doesn't carry it but continues carrying shitty retard Lagavulin instead.
>>21717581>I'm pissed that my local Costco doesn't carry it...anymore. Used to be able to get it for $37 there.Lagavulin is like $70 there which is actually super cheap but honestly the Laphroaig is much better.
Lagavulin is of an equal quality to Laphroiag the biggest issue is that it’s twice as expensive
another day of me still not really getting whiskey.
I quit drinking last weekend because it always makes me relapse on cigarettes. Pour an extra one for me tomorrow, boys.
>>21717830Drink a smoky as fuck scotch. Don’t like it? Good riddance >>21717831Dumb reason. Just stop buying the fucking cigarettes. And anytime you want a cig just pour another drink.
>>21717981>addiction isn’t real>just drink moreyou sound retarded
Why do bars not carry wild turkey 101. I’m trying to eat dinner and relax after work at a local tavern and these assholes don’t even have Americas favorite whiskey behind the bar. You can get blandtons, buffalo disgrace, bullsheit and a bunch of other turds but not gods gift to humanity.
>>21718376WT101 isn't America's favorite whiskey, most people like "smooth' and boring, Wild Turkey 101 is too bold and based for most bargoers .
just grabbed 2 buffalo traces minis at $2 each, just right off the shelf. didn't have to pretend to be the cashier's friend or anything. the bourbon crash is here
>it's so smooooooth
i had some macallan harmony inspired by intense arabica paired with a my father no. 1 robusto. the cigar was honestly some of the smoothest smoking i've had in a while desu and the pairing didn't suck at all so that's nice
I hate whiskey in general (in whiskey general)
tastes like apple gummy and baking spices. looking forward to the proofed up versions coming out.
I had this last night, it was very good. One of my buddies opened some other bottles.
>>21722242I want a Coy Hill so bad but I've never even seen a bottle. That's actually one of the lower proofs I've seen on one.
>>21722386You don’t need a coy hill I hate whiskey
i got a bottle of smokewagon uncut unfilteredbottle looks pretty nice on my shelf. paired REALLY well with an arturo fuente best seller perfecto. i'll be drinking it exclusively with select cigar pairings, so i can probably have it looking nice on my shelf for a year
>>21724321 How much do you need to spend to get a decent cigar?
>>21724335arturo fuente exquisitos maduro is $3.49, delicious, good for a 1 hour smoke. it's a skinny little thingmost of what i smoke is in the $5-15 rangepadron 1964 anniversary presidente, natural or maduro, is like $14 and s-tierarturo fuente hemingway short story is $5-6 and it was my favorite as a beginner because it only lasts about 30 minutesas someone who enjoys budget whiskey, tolerates crappy coffee etc., I HATE shitty cigars / inconsistent builds, I think because cigars are such a sensory experience. so some brands I've found that are consistent and good are Arturo Fuente, Romeo y Julieta, Oliva, My Father, Padron. there are others but I'm not that deep to try everything yetif you start your own collection expect to spend hundreds pretty quickly but if you want to just dabble you don't really need anything
>>21722386It is a very nice drink. Big time dark cherry, and brown sugar. The leather and smoke was there, but very balanced. I noticed a dark grape note in the end, very faint that mixed in with the barrel. It truly is an outstanding whiskey.
I'm on my 2nd Redwood Empire Emerald Giant cask strength and I'm really enjoying this shit. Maybe it's the 95/5 rye mgp mash bill that does it for me. It's just so flavorful and herbal I can't get enough of it, I wish I could get a nonalcoholic version to sip on all day. This weekend I also picked up a new riff malted rye and a JDSBBP store pick, both of which are delicious. I also got a Penelope Rio and Remus repeal reserve ix which I didn't initially enjoy. I spent a lot more than I was planning to.
>>21724547Thanks anon I’m going to buy some cigars and hopefully hunt down a knob creek 21 for new years.
>>21724726if you're buying singles in advance you should put them in a humidor bag or a ziploc with a 65% or 69% boveda pack, or if they come in a 'fresh pack' that should be fine to keep sealed until then. you don't want them to dry out if you buy them in advance. if you start building a collection, you'll need a humidorat the local store I go to (abc fine wine & spirits in FL), they offer humidor bags for free. most cigar shops sell boveda packs too
Tastes the same. Goes good with Stagg chili
>>217253654got pic.
>>21724547>padron 1964based based based>>21724723>Maybe it's the 95/5 rye mgp mash bill that does it for mebut of course. god bless our benevolent KING of the rye market
Got Thai one for real cheap like half off because the label was ripped. It lost its flavor a couple days after opening it so it was probably old anyways
>>21726143My brother in Christ do yourself a favor and at least get a bottle of ogd 114 if you don’t want to spring for the knob creek. Your taste buds will thank you.
>>21684011>the 12 year but to me it tastes similar to the 9 year.I second this. It still displays a lot of grain that tastes under it's age statement
What’s the deal with Penelope? Their bottles are all expensive and it’s always some goofy finished whiskey. Is this a company that’s marketing strategy is to target urban homosexuals?
>>21727670Decent MGP. I see prices vary from store to store. The Jewel Osco near me sells the Rose for $60 but the local liquor store a block away sells it for $45.
>When the local grocery store gets 10 bottles of Pappy It's a lottery but that's still a shocker to me.
>>21727699BT's rare allocated drop is always this time of year if I'm not mistaken
>>21727714yeah, but I never really see this stuff in Illinois that isn't at a hole in the wall store that doesn't 3x the price.
>>21727714>>21727720You didn't hear this from me but, BT is hitting some hard times. Wonder why you've been seeing EH Taylor just sitting around at retail? They are gonna drop a shit ton of "allocated" bottles this year. If anyone ever wanted a chance at a Pappy of any variety, this year is it.
>>21727742>this year is it.Both their production and Wild Turkey's are marching toward doubling, and they can't undo the process. It's less that "this year" is the year and more that the world is healing and every year will be increasingly sane until the market looks more like 2010 again
>>21725372It's good whiskey but no they don't. You can be complementary without schizing out on the hot take
>>21727742>>21727784Stuff like EHT (small batch) and Eagle Rare are going to go back to being shelfers (and maybe Blanton's and Stagg to a smaller extent) in the next couple of years because of increased production but we're never going to get to the point where you can go into a liquor store and get Pappy for retail, that wasn't even really possible even before the market went nuts because BT intentionally makes it rare on top of the higher age statement ones just naturally having lower production.
>>21727817Once bt, eagle rare and eh Taylor sb go back to being available will people finally admit they are all crap? I have a bottle of small batch that I don’t even drink its a boomer meme.
>>21727844I think they're decent to above average for MSRP but not worth secondary prices. There's plenty of bottles in the same price range that you can get at any store that are better.
>>21727852My baseline is wild turkey 101 when judging a whiskey. I can get 101 for 24 dollars everywhere if you expect me to pay more than that it has to prove it to my tastebuds. I haven’t tried a buffalo trace offering that is better than 101.
>>21690394Better than Glenmorangie's rebrand, but still inferior to the previous iterationI don't know why they keep doing thisAt least Laphroaig kept things fairly similar for theirs
>>21727890You're being kind of edgy, though I agree with you about EHT and if you said the same about Blanton's I would as well. I don't know how much of an oldfag you are but before WT's new still's production aged through, yes, 101 was absolutely exceptional for the price, and they simply didn't bottle it with any younger grainy notes in the profile. As great as it was, it simply isn't the case since 2011+ production started getting bottled. Modern 101 tastes like a medium aged whiskey with flecks of "youngish" in it, and the product just isn't the same. It competes with EHT and Blanton's because (again it's insane that people value them) they're the same way: 6-7 year old shit that should be mid-low shelf. Back to the point though, I think it's overreaching to say that ER and BT don't beat it with their fruitier, funkier profile at 8-9 and 10 years respectively. 2016 101, you've got a matchup, but not no more.
>>21727966101 isn't my favorite whiskey but it is better than a lot of swill they try to charge you 40+ dollars for. Both BT and ER are extremely bland whiskeys that if you drink one after 101 or knob creek 9 taste even worse. Small batch is a passable whiskey but is not even worth MSRP to me yet people pay 150 dollars for it. Wild Turkey might not be as good as it once was but its still better than every other distillery other than Jim Beam.
>>21728061Like what you like, but you are reminding me of my old neighbor who only drank Old No 7 claiming every other whiskey tasted like shit.
>>21727966yeah I love 101 too but like regular Buffalo Trace it's mostly an above-average mixer for me, if I want something to sip I'd rather drop a few extra $ and get some Rare Breed or Russells. The 8-year 101 is very very good; I lucked into finding a bottle at a grocery store a few months ago and haven't seen it since.
>>21727670I had the strangest experience with Penelope. I bought the wheated earlier this year and it tasted amazing. The closest I can describe is it tasted like a mcdonald's sweet tea. Recently bought a second bottle and it was terrible. It barely had any flavor besides ethanol. It went down the drain after a half a bottle.I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I am suspecting they were testing adding artificial ingredients in some products. I can't prove it but the full name for MGP is MGP Ingredients and they also make additives for food.
Right now I have the “top 5 readily available bourbons priced < $100” as:>JD single barrel proof>WT rare breed>old Forester 1920>4 roses single barrel >knob creek 12Thoughts / comments / suggestions .. ?
>>21728560Woodford Reserve Double Oaked
>>21728560I’m not sure what you want people to comment about? Which is your favorite? I would recommend buying more of that one once you finish it.
A wise man told me "never trust a fart lying in wait"that wise man is myself, and i keep telling myself that for two days after each time i drink more than 30cl of whiskey during the course of one day
>>21727852Is pappy any good?
>>21728814>Is [wheated bourbon] any good?No.
>>21728847but it’s so SMOOTH
>>21728061Oh you're the aggressively retarded guy who shits up every thread and says everything from BT and HH is bad Mid shelf beam is peanut oil. Get over yourself. You have a bad palette and no one wants to see your retarded opinions repeated for months on end
>>21728943>HH1488>BTBoomer Taters
>>21728943>paletteKek. You fucking retard.
>>21728943>Tastelet upset bourbon has flavorHeaven Hill is one of the worst distilleries going. They are also price gouging on their bland whiskeys just like Sazerac. I wonder what these two companies have in common?????
Fuck, heavy peated really just overpowers anything else and it's all I taste on my mouth and smell for hours.
>>21730242>it's all I taste on my mouth and smell for hoursI know, it’s the best
I hate whiskey I refuse to buy more shitty ass whiskey I hope this whole whiskey bubble collapses
>>21730572The bubble is collapsing anon. Covid tourists have moved on to tequila and distilleries ramped up production thinking the covid bubble would go on forever. 5 years from now whiskey will be so cheap bathing in pappy and it will be glorious.
>>21730610Now if only that could happen to japanese whiskey
Got a jump start on treating myself for the holidays today and dropped 25 smackers on a 4pk of Founders KBS (imperial stout aged in bourbon barrels). Should be real nice having a whisky or 2 before popping open one of those bad boys
>>21727714At least you're actually told where the allocations drop Where I live some stores have abandoned online inventories altogether
>>21730242>heavy peated really just overpowers anything elseIt really doesn't if you're not a tastelet. Laphroaig has the strong vanillin, Uigeadail has the very apparent sherry cask notes, Longrow has the lemon oil, etc.
>>21732116>25 smackers on a 4pk of Founders KBSThat's expensive!Give Lagunitas Willetized coffee stout a chance if you see it available. Significantly cheaper than $25 where I live and, IMO, significantly better than the KBS.
>>21730134My problem is your hyperbolic posting style and the fact that you're a retarded welder in a trailer park who can't describe your problem with anything: "Dude fuggin (distillery that produces 50 brands) doesn't have ANY FLAVOR". seriously, just commit suicide and stop shitting up the board, 58 year old brainless retard annoying day laborer faggot
