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I like sugary coffee drinks and I'm tired of pretending I don't
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Why do you feel the need to announce that you have a child's palate?
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That's the main reason for their existence
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>>21684733
adults throughout history have enjoyed sugar. sweet beverages give you energy and hydrate you better. it's a very modern insecure thing to act like avoiding sweets makes you more mature. probably even partially done by companies who were selling products that weren't sweet lmao.
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>>21684733
Are you one of those guys that thinks drinking black coffee makes you manly
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Coffee without cream is straight up retarded. Cream was made for coffee and vice versa.
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>>21684777
Checked and gaypilled
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>>21684777
Creme goes good in chicken alfredo
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I'll drink the vilest black piss in the morning to get going, I just don't care enough to make it nice.
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me too! try making your own with a 0 cal sweetener to save calories
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>>21684729
To me, added sugar is utterly optional. I just demand my cream.
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>>21684795
Which 0 calorie sweetener is the least cancerous? I can't be getting cancer from my food AND cigarettes
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>>21684729
why would you have pretended?
>>21684733
why are you still pretending?
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>>21684814
Heh, none of them are better than 15 cal per tsp sugar. If you have to use sugar, just use it. If you can't, then you pick not the least cancerous, but the most palatable. I think Chobani and Starbucks get the highest rankings on their flavored zero sugar creamers.
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>>21684733
>tough guy response
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>americans chimping out when anyone isn't as blatantly addicted to sugar as them
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>>21684771
what happens if you make sugary sweet coffee drinks but you use tactical military coffee?
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>>21684833
Those are both things that immature children do, so I guess you'd be a double child
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>>21684777
Post tummy.
Also, you're a coffee mate (it's oil, btw) injester, aren't you?
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>>21684795
Making at home is really easy and saves money, and its nice making something aesthetically pleasing. For sugar I'm mindful of my intake. If I have my coffee, I won't have anything else high in sugar for the day.
>>21684833
Dont ask dont tell?
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bought some "instant latte" powder packs
they're a'ight
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>>21684814
i personally use stevia. i also like to use zero sugar coffee syrups (like torani) for extra flavor!
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>>21684762
People have enjoyed sugar when it was scarce and luxurious. Now that it is cheap and ubiqituous, this addictive substance is detrimental to good taste and a well-adjusted adult should avoid overconsumption of sweet goods.
Plus lose some weight you fat fuck.
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>>21684729
As long as you're not slurping extra 1000kcal every day, like an obese suburban mom, whose only exercise is getting in and out of an oversized truck
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>>21684928
Coffee should still be the predominant flavor, otherwise just drink a milkshake
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>>21684925
>People have enjoyed sugar when it was scarce and luxurious
honey wasn't that uncommon unless you were really poor and we shouldn't really base our eating habits on that

>addictive
lol

>Plus lose some weight you fat fuck.
i'm not fat. sugar doesn't inherently make you fat. you'd have a hard time gaining weight eating sugar without also eating a lot of fat (not that fat is inherently bad either)
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why do fat retards like to make shit up about historical honey use so often
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>>21685041
What's the truth?
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>>21685041
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8672404/
>A reappraisal of the evidence from the Stone Age, Antiquity, the Middle Ages and early Modern times suggests that ordinary people ate much larger quantities of honey than has previously been acknowledged. Intakes at various times during history may well have rivalled our current consumption of refined sugar.
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>>21684771
No, I drink it for caffeine and I always forget to by milk and sugar so black it is.
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>>21684729
That's fine, and I appreciate you calling it what it is.
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>>21684925
>People have enjoyed sugar when it was scarce and luxurious

wheat, rice and potato's were fairly abundant and available pretty often, if sugar was scarce people would resort to flesh.
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>>21684729
Why were you pretending you didn't like them, OP?
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>>21684842
>tummy

Grow up and stop using childish, cutesy words like a fucking faggot.
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>>21685644
>potato's

FFS, dude.
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>>21685393
This meta-analysis slop article is really bad and overestimates consumption based on vague data.

For one, he provides zero evidence for the claim in the abstract that "consumption of honey was comparable to consumption of refined sugar".
The closest he comes to claiming this is that:
> [honey] 6-13 kg per year (Ransome, 1937). Recall that present-day consumption of refined sugar is about 15-23 kg per year
Of course, modern honey is 80% sugar and in ye olde days before the invention of the centrifuge used to separate honey from the frame the water content used to be much larger (depending on the quality of the honey - modern honey would be considered of highest quality and it was a fraction of the extracted honey from a hive whilst low quality honey contained only 25-50% sugar and consistuted a major part of the honey extracted from the hive).

And then, the record doesn't represent the average person but likely a member of the nobility. In fact, most of the evidence presents nobility (since they kept records) which is not representative of honey consumption in general.
He also mentions mead but completely disregards it in terms of sugar consumption. Mead generally contains little sugar (as it is fermented), so any honey used for mead cannot be included in any sort of sugar consumption. He conveniently disregards that mead used to be quite valuable, more than imported wine according to records from the Polish royal court from the 16th century and Teutonic knights' records.

His greatest argument is the British records showing a low price of honey according to around 20 records of sales around the early 1500s. This is dubious evidence, since (1) it is unclear under which circumstances these sales were made (2) it is unclear of the quality or purpose of the honey. Even if the price was generally low, that doesn't necessarily mean it had to be consumed as sugar. There could've been legal context that led to low prices (monopoly).
t. read the study
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>>21684771
yea and ipa and beards and progressivism. Im a manly man nan
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Heavy cream, half and half, or whole milk for coffee creamer?
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>>21685763
Oat milk. Or like a tablespoon of heavy cream cuz I ran out of oat milk. Get with it.
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>>21684729
I like it with some sort of flavored cream but adding extra sugar on top is just too much
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I think it's a good way to enjoy cheap coffee beans and instant coffee. I don't often get the chance to drink specialty coffee.
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its ok to like it, just childish and expensive if thats the only way you drink coffee
I love black coffee but Im not spending $5 on one from a coffeeshop when I can get a well made flavored latte for $7
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>>21684729
Are you tired of all the pretending you were totally doing?
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>>21684733
He has a woman's palate. All zoomer "males" do.
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>>21684762
>it's a very modern insecure thing
anon, everyone is a fat fuck, that's all it's about, not being an ugly fat fuck
it's shameful, and npcs generally don't like being shamed AT ALL, their social lives are everything
>>21684771
you'll always see a new kid on the block who will do this, every gen, every corner of the earth
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Yeha, they taste so much better
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>>21684771
>if you think drinking faggy sugary drinks is childish you must think the opposite is manly and define yourself by it

Being the default isn't performatively manly it’s simply normal. Drinking black coffee is normal.
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>>21684832
Sugar and cream is a Hispanic thing
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>>21685668
Somebody is a little grumpy head today
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>>21685668
Take your BP & hypertension meds, NOW.
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>anon embraces his inner white girl
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>>21686189
Pumpkin spice coffee sounds amazing but I've yet to find one I like
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>>21684958
>otherwise just drink a milkshake
Good job cracking the code sherlock, Starbucks sells coffee-flavoured milkshakes.
Everyone knows that, that's the whole reason people go there.
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coffee with milk is the goat
>neutralize the acidity so your stomach doesn't get upset
>tastes infinitely better than black coffee
>natural sugars in milk mellow out the bitterness

you can't convince me that black coffee is good. i've tried dozens of cups of it and it's never been enjoyable. i've only ever liked it as an iced cold brew
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>>21686661
Dunkin is much worse in the coffee not tasting like coffee thing, Dunkin tastes like straight creamer no matter what you get. Starbucks is okay for some drinks but the price will never be worth it.
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>>21684729
t.
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>>21686847
From the weight of my gigantic dick and balls btw
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>>21686062
America is also a Hispanic thing these days
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>>21684729
you and me both, brother!
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>>21684762
I like sugar where it belongs. Sugar in a cake. Caramel sweets. Licorice. Ice cream.
But coffee has a perfect savory, sour aroma that isn't complemented by added sweetness. It would be like adding sugar to salami or cacio i pepe pasta. It would clash and subtract from the overall profile to be presented.
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I like them a lot and they're really tasty but I need the placebo that the nasty black coffee taste gives me to make me more alert in the morning. But at night I do love me some decaf coffee (or black tea, even) that swims in the pale sea of warm milk and sugar.
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>>21685702
bodied that freak
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>>21686955
I'm getting kind of hard right now is that bad?
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You are manly if you drink black coffee without sugar and cream.
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>>21686955
I should call her
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>>21687053
Yeah but no one knows if you put sugar in it. There's no way to tell so fuck you faggots you'll never know I'm a queer AHAHAHAHA
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>>21685702
>modern honey is 80% sugar
Good point

>Mead generally contains little sugar (as it is fermented)
Depends on how long it's fermented and how much honey you start with. A lot of modern meads are still very sweet. It's true it was more expensive and not widespread as most people would be drinking beer. But it still shows they had enough honey to use it for something like that.

There is still various other pieces of evidence that honey wasn't that uncommon but like you said you can't know for certain since average people didn't keep records.

Even disregarding all of that we can see hunter-gatherers today eating very large amounts of honey and not suffering any health problems from it. At times when it's most abundant getting over 50% of their calories just from honey. But people believe that hunter-gatherers were all just eating tons of meat all the time and a few pieces of fruit maybe. There isn't much reason to believe that ancient hunter-gatherers weren't doing the same. There's even a type of bird that will lead people to beehives so they can gather the honey and the bird will get access to the leftovers, that kind of stuff doesn't happen overnight or when honey consumption is practically non-existent.
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>>21687063
>There's even a type of bird that will lead people to beehives
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeyguide
>Some experts believe that honeyguide co-evolution with humans goes back to the stone-tool making human ancestor Homo erectus, about 1.9 million years ago
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Coffee makes you retarded, I just wish it wasn't so delicious.
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>>21687071
Good thing I'm already retarded
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>>21687071
The absence of caffeine does, so after you have a cup you're drained
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>>21686955
I said easy ice
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>>21684733
Why do you feel the need to pretend that you don't like sugary coffee drinks?
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can deal without
but really like it when there is brown sugar options ever since that bubble tea
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>>21684928
Thought the mermaid was spreading her merussy on the bottom right cup
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that does look good
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>>21686969
you never had egg coffee
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>>21687071
huh, caffeine is a nootropic. Go take your fake chart (boomer science) somewhere else
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>>21688134
that image is just saying caffeine binds to adenosine receptors.

caffeine is a nootropic but you don't need nearly as much as people think, and too much does eventually end up causing fatigue and worse mental performance.
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>>21688144
hmm, well I have been completely off the wagon for 7 years while slurping coffee every day
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>>21684729
Yeah because you have the palate of a child and are addicted to sugar.
Grow up incel.
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>>21688420
>addicted to sugar
i was addicted to sugar... lost my wife, the kids, the house, my job... was homeless for a while going through trash just to find empty soda cups that might've had a little sugar residue at the bottom.
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>>21688422
Denial and attempts at minimization, classic addict behavior.
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>>21684729
thats why i liked Stewarts Iced Coffee, i was addicted to that shit, but after i moved out of Upstate NY cant get it no more since theyre basically only in NY, havent been able to find anyones as tasty as theres, most places make terrible iced coffee that tastes like ass
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>>21688432
i know... i need help... yesterday i mugged an old lady because i was so desperate to get my fix
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>>21688420
Sugar is not addictive.
It’s a lack of self control.
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>>21688474
Stewarts is weird, most of the stuff there is terrible, but they have great iced cream and coffee, too bad all the food and other shit there is shit. also upstate new york is one of the most boring places to live on earth, its like living in the woods, i used to go on vacation there as a kid in the lake areas, never been to a more boring nothing to do area in my life, you hear new york so you think it must be tons of stuff to do, but its like 4 hours away from new york city, the rest of new york thats not the cities is like living in a third world
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>>21688481
its only good if you like fishing and hiking in the moutains. if you like cool places to go forget it
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>>21686955
>the french vanilla
I should call him
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>>21687063
I just don't think we should really extrapolate hunter gatherer health data to stationary people.
They have a wildly different lifestyle and diets. When they eat honey, it's only seasonally and accompanied by a lot of other different foods.



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