Tell me your experience on the carnivore diet ( if you have any )
>eat meat>eat meat a while later>etc
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>>21715159It alleviated some issues I had. After 2-3 days I get sick of eating meat and just start eating less. Adding more fat doesn't help. Feel tired and dehydrated. Get told to push through and my body will adapt etc. doesn't work. Eventually get dry itchy skin and sore gums like I'm developing scurvy. Drink some milk and eat some fruit and feel a lot better. Figure out I don't digest starch too well and that caused a lot of my issues, I also do better with milk instead of meat.
>>21715236The only way you can get scurvy eating meat is if you over cook it. you can survive just fine on a diet of meat only, as long as you cook it to medium rare or less. Red meat is loaded with vitamin C. about 20 or so years ago I read a study of a doctor who ate nothing but raw meat for 6 months with not ill effects. He monitored his vitamin levels and they were all normal.
>>21715259Yeah I know but rare/raw meat has always seemed unpleasant to me. Carnivore dieters will say you don't need vitamin C if you're not consuming carbs and then it turns out you do still need it. There's a lot of misinformation in carnivore circles.
Restrictive diets like that are retarded. I’m going to eat some form of meat everyday(mainly poultry or fish) but not pairing it with some grains or vegetables is retarded. If you need to replace Whole Foods with supplements, the diet is shit
I did it for about 2 months at one point. A couple days into it you'll get pure liquid shits because all the bacteria in your gut that normally eats carbohydrates is dying off so you have to shit it out. During the first week of carnivore do NOT trust a fart. After a week your shits go back to being normal.It got rid of my wrist pain entirely. I had chronic wrist pain for a few years due to playing bass guitar and too much time on my laptop. Going completely anti inflammatory must have relieved the pressure on my carpal tunnel. It was legitimately like magic, the pain just disappeared after a week.I also lost weight but that was really just from cutting out all the garbage and eating less. You would get the same result from any restrictive diet.I kept it up for about 2 months but quit because I found it very difficult to keep any social life and I also just love beer too much to give it up.
I've been doing it for a year. Switching between Carnivore and Keto, I eat a lot of avocados and I love them, can't give em up. And I'm saying Keto because during winter I ferment veggies and eat them for a couple of months. I lost 22-23 pounds, I had slight back and joint pain and it went way after 5 months. I don't really watch what I eat, I just eat until I'm full. My energy levels are steady during the day, there is no crash in the afternoon like before. My sleep is better definitely and I quit coffee 2 months ago. Never had the liquid shits. Sometimes I don't poop every day but it's not a problem. All the bloating from legumes and breads is gone, I fart maybe twice a week. Before that I was scared to work out because of my joints but in the last few months I've been getting into working out and there's no problem.
>>21715559>I don't really watch what I eatI meant I don't really watch HOW MUCH I eat.
I did it for 6 months and lost a lot of weight. It's hard to stick to unless you're able to cook all of your meals. If I ever get fat again I'll go back to it
>>21715272>I'm a dumb fuck retard Yeah we know.
I had a weird gut problem and could only eat keto for about a yearI did lose weight but I wasn't particularly fat to begin with and didn't have any other problemsNo hair loss (I think that's bullshit propaganda, if anything, my beard got bigger) no shitting issues none of thatI will say it has a real downside: it's SO FUCKING BORINGAt first you think it's great because yay steak eggs bacon cheese all the time!A month or two in it's just the total lack of options starts to sink in, that's the hard part, it all just starts to taste the same and you don't even want to eat Except carpaccio, never got tired of carpaccio
>>21715159i feel great on carnivore, i’ve been slimming like crazy and building muscle, and sugar makes my stomach hurt now. i’m not that strict though i think some veg is okay for certain nutrients like folate
>>21715638>I will say it has a real downside: it's SO FUCKING BORINGI had this problem at first but then I started eating different cuts and meats and animals, also fish. Another thing that helped is eating whenever I'm hungry which got rid of the "this is boring", when I'm hungry and there's meat in front of me it's always tasty and I can't wait to eat.
>>21715649Yeah, eventually I was able to break the mold and branch out into other things, and little tips like using pork rinds for breading and probably a bunch of others I've forgotSince I didn't have much choice in the matter I stuck with it, but yeah, you do have put effort into making variety workI think that's the reason people fall off the wagon, otherwise I really don't believe anyone who says it's unhealthy or dangerous, it does work
>>21715673Yeah it does work. I am this anon>>21715559And another thing I forgot to mention which is a big one is that my anxiety is almost completely gone. About the social gathering thing, when I go out with friends at a restaurant or something, I just get the meat without anything else so that has never been a problem. >but yeah, you do have put effort into making variety workI do pork and chicken and beef and fish and seafood, like shrimp, mussels, Octopus is now in seeason where I am and it's 10-12euro for 2.2 lbs which is very cheap in octopus prices.
For what it's worth I think the main culprits are seed oils, grains/breads, maybe legumes (at least for me) and high processed foods, and sugars of course. My question is has anyone who as done carnivore or keto reintroduced for example veggies or fruits and felt worse?
>>21715175Yeah the carnivores sure do eat a lot of meat. Big black cock meat
>>21715159Carnivore is too extreme and stupid. Just really lower your carb intake and you'll lose the weight. Eating 2 lbs of beef in one sitting per day is silly. Refusing all veggies and fruit is silly.
>>21715712>seed oils>posts 'apu'Yep, checks out. You're one of those young men incel schizos who believes all the wrong shit and spends too much time online. Sorry about how you feel the world has ignored you, but you really went down a stupid path.
i’ve never done it for longer than a month or two at a time, but it’s always pretty nice, honestly. I like to switch up my diet to carnivore whenever inflammation and acne hits. It helps a lot.
>>21715740>You're one of those young men incel schizos who believes all the wrong shit and spends too much time onlineNot really, but you seem to be one of those people who calls everyone incel schizo if they do something you don't approve of.
>>21715712I went back to a normal diet when I could and didn't really feel any differenceI think the more energy is just losing weight if that's a problem combined with a weird dopamine response to staying committed to a new routine
>>21715740Why do you feel so strongly about defending seed oils?>The seed oils are extracted from plants either by a chemical or mechanical process. Seed oil critics claim the chemical extraction process leaves toxic byproducts, such as hexane, in the oils. While hexane is considered hazardous in gas form, it’s used as a liquid solvent to extract the oil from the seeds. The hexane is then evaporated off. Since the FDA does not currently monitor or regulate hexane residue in cooking oils, it’s unclear what trace amounts of hexane, if any, remain in the seed oils found on the supermarket shelves.https://www.massgeneral.org/news/article/seed-oils-facts-myths>>21715236>become dehydrated>feel bad>consume liquid>feel betterYou were thirsty. Had nothing to do with carnivore.
>>21715236Protein digestion is hard work (about 30% of the intake) and requires a lot of water as well.
>>21716580>You were thirsty. Had nothing to do with carnivore.No, it did have something to do with carnivore. I can't consume enough liquid to stay hydrated without milk for whatever reason. I start to feel nauseous trying to drink enough of anything else even if I'm getting dehydrated.Not to mention complaints about dehydration on carnivore are common because your body holds more fluid in your muscles when consuming carbs.
>>21715712After sugar, grain products are the worst food to eat. Nobody really does keto, which is supposed to be mainly fat. They do low carb, and even that they don't properly. 20-50g of carbs is ridiculously high. Meat and dairy (beware of milk, which is basically a sugar drink) should be the main source, coupled with cruciferous vegetables. Fruit is problematic due to the high sugar content. Of course, it won't kill you to sometimes eat whatever you want.
>>21716779>20-50g of carbs is ridiculously high.>beware of milk>Fruit is problematicthis is dietary extremism
>>21715159>carnivore dieti hope you enjoy early heart disease
>>21716773Nigger, drink water.>dehydration on carnivoreYeah, you are no longer eating fruit and vegetables with a high water content.
>>21716804>2-3 kilos of butter a day that's not carnivore
>>21716807regardless there is a reason dieticians advise eating a balanced diet with plenty of fruits and vegetablesred meats are high in saturated fats, and eating a diet primarily made of red meats will raise ldl levels in the blood, high ldl levels leads to plaque which can break off and cause heart attacks at worst, and at best you develop heart disease in your 60s
>>21716806No thanks but I'll take some milk :)
>>21716810the most evidence based diet is just the mediterranean diet, but no one wants to hear the same thing they've been hearing for years nowfad diets come and go, i already hear people talking about "natures ozempic"
>>21716810Total nonsense. The fact that you posted this article of someone mainlining kilos of butter and presented it as evidence why the carnivore is "le dangerous" is all I want to know about your motives. Also the "science" you presented is 1980s outdated and even debunked from cardiologists who have nothing to do with carnivore.
>>21716813all diets just try to restrict what you can eat to put yourself in a calorie deficitand most people can not maintain a restricted dietyou are just better off calorie tracking and making lower calorie substitutions in foods you already eat (replacing white bread for keto bread), or fortifying foods to add additional protein and fiber (adding lentils to rice, for example)
>>21716818You can't calorie restrict if you are eating sugary carby bullshit, at least most people can't, that's the whole point. Meat keeps you satiated, a high carb diet makes you want to snack all the time.
>>21716817ok faggot don't take my advice then you'll regret it in another 5 years when you're put on atorvastatin
>>21716822You don't care about me or anyone here. You are just here to shit talk.
>>21716825people who post retarded information on the internet deserve to be talked down to
>>21716822I literally lost 30 pounds with carnivore and cured my arrhythmia and heart palpitations lol.
>>21716826Are you really this butthurt because the vegan threads get no engagement beyond ridiculing vegans?
you are all lost causes, when you develop coronary artery disease in your 60s i fully expect an appology
>>21716800>20-50g of carbs is ridiculously high.it is, that amount of carbs actively boycotts the adaption and is likely worse than being a complete carbtard>beware of milkmilk has 5g sugar per 100ml, which makes it very easy to over-consume carbs>Fruit is problematicit is, fruit is basically candy, again fueling the carb issue>this is dietary extremism>eating meat, cheese and vegetables is "extremism"LMAO
>>21716828Pretty much any diet that makes you lose weight will improve health even if the diet isn't really optimal. A guy lost weight eating mostly Twinkies and calorie counting, his bloodwork improved but that doesn't mean Twinkies are an ideal food.>>21716855>>eating meat, cheese and vegetables is "extremism"I didn't say that, retard. Your demonization of carbs is what's extreme. The healthiest most fit people all consume way more than 50g of carbs. "Fruit is problematic" when nobody actually has dietary related issues caused by fruit and pretty much every shred of evidence shows improved health with increasing fruit consumption is extreme. "Dude trust me fruit is bad" is not proof of anything. You will not find anyone who is overweight and unhealthy on what you'd say is the perfect keto diet along with whole fresh fruit.
>>21716860>Pretty much any diet that makes you lose weight will improve health even if the diet isn't really optimal. A guy lost weight eating mostly Twinkies and calorie counting, his bloodwork improved but that doesn't mean Twinkies are an ideal food.So then what's your problem with meat? I'd rather eat that then slop. My bloodwork also improved, so whats your point? Eating like that doesn't make me snack and I feel satiated and great? Why do you care so much what I eat?
>>21716901>So then what's your problem with meat?I didn't say I had a problem with meat. Eating just meat doesn't really seem ideal though but I'm not denying it could lead to short term improvements.>I'd rather eat that then slop.Your choices aren't just meat or slop.>My bloodwork also improved, so whats your point? That losing weight is probably what improved your health and not just eating meat specifically. >Why do you care so much what I eat?Why so defensive? There are plenty of carnivore circlejerks you can participate in if you don't want actual conversation.
>>21716860Ketogenic processes won't start with an overabundance of carbs present, it's as simple as that. Even if those carbs come from le wholesome fresh fruit. Sugar is sugar.
>>21716957I know how it works but just because it prevents ketosis doesn't mean it's inherently bad. It doesn't seem like being in ketosis 24/7 is a natural thing, even the Inuit consume enough carbs via glycogen in meat to not always be in ketosis. Consuming enough carbs and being sedentary to not use up that energy and always eating to never even get close to ketosis may be bad, but not being in ketosis 24/7 is not inherently bad either.
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