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Broke up a full 200g cake and had some 520 Jin earlier. Not bad or amazing, but it has some fresh shou fishiness (nothing egregious), so it is a little hard to make out some notes. I wrote about it, but I think I'll reserve my thoughts until it's had time to settle post-shipment. Wonder if two weeks may be enough. I'll at least share a quick infusion shot and then dump some cake opening pics I took for fun.

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Pic of whole 520 Jin cake surface.

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Splitting the 520 Jin cake. The complimentary pick they slipped in worked rather nicely. Much better than typical kitchen knives or too-thick awls.

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Closer shot of the 520 Jin leaves post-split. My pics had bad lighting and turned out blurry, but I thought to still share. Have more, but nothing important. Just for fun.

>>21734476
they have sales on individual items, but no site wide sales or events that I'm aware of. their prices are so good though that this isn't an issue
it's a low margin reseller for a Taiwanese brand. they don't really do black friday deals that I'm aware of

>>21735188
Might get the Jingmai Autumn Gushu. Or not.

>>21735220
why did you split the cake?

>>21735291
I wanted to break up a full 200g portion to more readily grab from mostly for the sake of convenience, but also to perhaps aid in airing out some of the fishy wet pile smell (wo-dui or whatever). It's not heavy, but I think it'd help move it along faster and maybe make it a lot more pleasant to drink.

Oh lord I love it when a seller only describes their tea as some Chingchong Lingling string that never appears on the entire internet outside their store page and doesn't describe the style or variety in any other way except "tea".
No, I don't trust myself to identify it on cake appearance.

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>>21735204
Nice choice of pic op!

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I actually just drank their generic sheng teabag from the sample packs a couple years back. It honestly was just ok. I've never had much luck with young sheng teabags from any vendor. I don't buy them, just drink them when I get them free. If oversteeped the teabags not just get bitter but also have an off flavor. It had good Qi at least this time, lol. Probably made with dust from CSH's factories. Anyone else here have better luck with sheng teabags?

As long as I breathe I'll hate white2tea's branding

There are so many versions of the bo jun ripe.
Some are as lose tea in cans, then there are cake versions 500g and 200g and bricks but I would have to buy 1000g.
If its the same tea(and I think it should be) then I have no idea why price per gram varies.

Also if anyone knows some taobao store with samples let or cool factory minicakes/dragon balls, I'm all ears.
So far I've had only few haiwan samples(searching for haiwan nets interesting results to say the least) and mengoku roshi samples.
Im kinda done with xiaguan but never had any dayi or other less known factories.

>>21735475
The ripe teabag in the csh box was pretty good desu. Tasted like an aged ripe or liu bao

Will we get new black teas for black friday on farmer leaf? Autumn release or late summer oolongs too? I still have a lot of sheng to drink and will order next spring, don't really care for ripe unless I'm in hong kong. I pray for a new Ao ne me soon.

>>21735477
Kuura does the whole hipster tea thing better desu, their aesthetic is more cohesive

>>21735477
We're not buying from LP or YS. Fuck off.

>>21735601
I do not often drink shou but I can see how it lends itself better to teabags. I still have the csh ripe teabag to try sometime. Will post about it when I do.

>>21735666
That's not the issue, I like their teas. But when I buy from teaencounter or YS I can give the cake wrappers to my girlfriend for her collages. Meanwhile white2tea
>we're not like your GRANDPA's tea with woodblock prints and watercolors, we have random PNGs from baby's first alternative Pinterest page

>>21735781
How many Ai slop wrappers has ys put out by now?

>>21735477
>What are you drinking?
>An ancient Chinese tea called slut juice

>>21735781
this. they lean too far in to their hipster branding

Having a sample of "The Tea Spot 2019 "Wisdom of the Ancients" sheng" puerh today. Not a tea I would have bough myself but not actually bad either. In fact the quality is quite good, though I am not sure I trust the price. The Tea Spot is one of those shops that overemphasizes supposed health benefits and underemphasizes the tea itself. My sample of "Wisdom of the Ancients" is a no longer quite young sheng with a citrusy and floral side to it. Not groundbreaking but no real faults either. Would drink again if I had more but not going to run out and hunt down a cake.

The video on it is kind of funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4d-PAtXZsk
https://www.theteaspot.com/products/ancient-single-tree-sheng-puerh-cake

Whats everybody else drinking?

>>21735848
Today:
2005 t8653 thick paper from Quiche
2024 Tang Fang Liang Zi from FL
Best Taste Ripe from Yeeontea

Wide variety of puerh

>>21735818
I always knew that duck shit oolong was a great conversation starter

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>>21735848
Some Tie Luo Han from a kino tin
Nice enough yancha but runs out real fast, will grab some of yeeon's jinggu ripe brick next

That story about them being drawn to the oldest tree just makes it sound like they got scammed by chinese

>>21735884
I gotta get one of those sea dyke productions. Wouldn't be surprised if I enjoy it a lot in relation to price, I like roast.

>>21735902
It's good if you get it at a nice price I think, for daily drinking yancha, but not worth going far our your way for. Has the correct mouthfeel, flavour profile.
KTM has an AT1171 tin, haven't had it but that looks like good $/g if the quality is about the same as this.

>>21735914
yeah, I'll check in the nearest chinese store or buy it next time I order from KTM

>>21735848
>Whats everybody else drinking?
Trying to get rid off all of the cheap black tea I have, so drinking that.
It's not bad. Nice change from drinking exclusively young raw.

>>21735818
On a related note, I was once given a free bing of dayi 7572 from a Chinese "internet model". A legit first batch production from the late 2000s at that. It is a good cake, I still have some. Kind of feel bad for the family member who gave her a tong of it when she went overseas.
>>21735914
>KTM has an AT1171 tin,
Nice, did,t know KTM sold tinned factory brand oolongs.

>>21735985
>I was once given a free bing of dayi 7572 from a Chinese "internet model"
damn, what's the story behind that? usually people give onlyfans girls money, not receive puerh from them
>Nice, did,t know KTM sold tinned factory brand oolongs.
those are a new addition to the site. prices seem decent, would probably have to go to taobao to get them cheaper

>>21736034
>damn, what's the story behind that? usually people give onlyfans girls money, not receive puerh from them
Not a simp, and I don't hang with hoes, I just got lucky and was in the right place at the right time. They wanted attention more than the tea. Probably hoping to get more followers, but maybe they just wanted to share. I wont say I am not grateful for the tea, it was genuinely appreciated regardless of intent.
>>21736034
>those are a new addition to the site. prices seem decent, would probably have to go to taobao to get them cheaper
That has always been the problem withe the factory oolongs, few western shops stock them at fair prices.

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Finally! It was sitting somewhere in my state for eleven days, as anon said longer than it took to transport and clear customs, I think.I couldn't be happier. Looks like plenty of new things in the trick or treat bag this year. The linen bag it comes in is always nice, too.

Not pictured: A Prosbloom mini sample.

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>>21736188
Got mine as well today, apparently the dogs weren't out today and the mailman could deliver it. First time ordering puerh, and, uh, I didn't expect it to be so... pungent. It's a little stinky. More than I thought it would be.

Still looking forward to trying it though.

>>21736194
I have the same mouse lol
fresh ripe pu-erh can be a little stinky, especially after shipping. it's a leftover aroma from fermentation and goes away on its own with time.

>>21736194
>>21736188
Good stuff, ladies. Don’t forget to dilate.

>>21736194
Give it a little time to settle if any seem a little fishy-funky after shipping, but I'd think most should be fine. Don't hesitate to experiment with temps/brew times.
>>21736188
Nice that it finally came through. I don't think I saw anyone get everything in the sale like you did. Wonder if your 520 Jin stock still carries some of the fresh wo dui residual aromas like mine. Hoping maybe two weeks could be enough to clear up the cake I broke up.

>>21736487
I've felt before that I have an insensitivity (or worse, some degree of fondness) of some fishiness from wo dui. I've had plenty of cheapo factory ripes plus a generous amount from YS, KTM, and W2T. Never before have I turned down a ripe session due to a flavor I thought was off. I definitely have favorites and least favorites, but nothing I would describe as unpleasant funk.

I'm going to crack one open tomorrow and see what I think.

>>21736519
NTA but I'm also insensitive to the "fishy" note others describe ripe having. Do you eat seafood at all? I don't and I've always assumed that's the root of my insensitivity. It's hard to associate the "fishy" note with actual fish when I only experience it in tea.

>>21736557
Plenty of seafood. /deenz/ veteran. Love it all. From that perspective, I would say I don't notice a parallel between the smell of fish, cooked or raw, and ripe puerh.

>>21736194
Bro, as one teasister to another, don't get started on the puer. It will turn your bussy out and make a slave. Puer addiction is just like drug addiction. From procuring it to the ritualistic way of ingesting it, it's indistinguishable from drug addiction. Puer has been running through and devastating the tea community like crack in the hood or AIDS in the gays did in the 80s.

>>21736194
Did you get all shou puerh or some sheng puerh as well? shou puerh, young sheng puerh, and aged sheng puerh are effectively three different types of tea. So if you don't like one you may still enjoy the others.

>>21736562
>I don't notice a parallel between the smell of fish, cooked or raw, and ripe puerh.
Ofttimes people use the work "fishy" colloquially to describe things they consider smelling "off". It is frequently misused imo.

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>>21736769
>Did you get all shou puerh or some sheng puerh as well?
I honestly have no idea. A lot of these wrappers I don't recognize on their website so no clue what they are. Does w2t only carry shou, or does it carry some sheng too?

Trying a ball of 'regular enlistment' now, it's interesting but I don't hate it. Very earthy but smooth and I do taste a little sweetness too. Brewing it western style because my pot is too large, I'd need to use like 4 balls to have the recommended amount of leaf for gongfu.

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Are the tiny particles in the "tea soup" lifeforms?

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>>21736835
If you only bought the bag of minis from the "Shulloween" sale it will all be shou. "Shulloween" is a pun on shou and Halloween. W2T sells both sheng (raw) and shou (ripe) puerh. Young sheng looks and tastes more like a strong green tea.

If you want to learn more about how puerh is made check out these videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE-aXKxPagY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI4yDyH1oUM

>>21736835
>Brewing it western style because my pot is too large, I'd need to use like 4 balls to have the recommended amount of leaf for gongfu.
Good call, don't bother trying to gongfu brewing in a big pot unless want oodles of tea. Shou is not fussy and is relatively easy to brew any way you want. Young sheng requires a bit more fineness.

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>>21736848
theyre trichomes from the tea leaves, some types of tea have more than others. its not a bad thing if theyre in your tea

>>21736848
It mostly looks like pollen. The long ones are definitely a microorganism like vinegar eels though.

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hello fellow matcha CHADS

>>21737080
Good morning matcha sir

>>21737080
So when commies say eat the rich/billionaires shouldn't exist it means they're jealous of the lifestyle they think they deserve. It's especially funny when multimillionaire socialist politicians tell me the rich are the problem.

>>21737092
You don't have to be rich to wake up at 2pm and be a useless piece of shit all day. I do it all the time.

>>21737080
It takes this guy 20 minutes to make a matcha thing

Why did matcha explode in popularity and suddenly gain hate?

>>21737216
social media

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So I tried this drink (pic related) at a local Korean diner and I really liked it. Tasty and sugar free. I purchased some boricha (bagged tea) to recreate at home but it didn't taste as nutty. Anyone here familiar with barley teas know what I am missing? The boricha I made was nice but not nearly so toasty or nutty, it kind of smells like alegria (Mexican amaranth candy).

>>21737216
the green looks good on tiktok videos

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>>21736848
its fuzz from the leaves, its a good sign that the leaves weren't harshly processed that would have rubbed them off

>>21737231
If I'm not mistaken the brand you pictured there seems to have added artificial flavourings and malt extract etc.
https://www.costco.co.kr/Foods/Beverages/SoftConcentrated-Drinks/Roasted-Dark-Barley-Tea-520ml-x-24/p/656704

>>21737255
well shit now I feel kinda bad I assumed it would be easy to replicate at home. Guess it wasn't as natural as I thought either, oh well. I will still purchase it next time I go to that diner, I loved the flavor.

>>21737258
I had one that was some kind of barley/rice milk concoction and tasted like cereal milk, the koreans do some tasty shit with that barley

>>21737263
that does sound very good

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1L jug + tea = ???

what tea(s) are good for just throwing into a jug to be covered by hot water?
could I kind of grandpa brew it by refilling the jug when I'm halfway through drinking it?
will it make nerve gas?

>>21737300
White tea like shou mei, hei cha of all types, classic oolongs (not so much super green ones), most green tea all seem to do well grandpa style.
I've had success with some young raw puer and yancha as well.
Things might be a bit different in a big vessel because it'll stay hot longer. Maybe try like 8g and dial it in

>>21737300
Just calm your autism and brew a pot western style like a normal person. Every tea can be brewed western style. With a pitcher like in your pic you'll spill leaves in your cup, in case the thick glass didn't explode before even you make it to that point.
Or hell use a french press.

>>21736188
you're now sitting on 2,2kg of ripe tea. Prepare for a murky winter fren

/tea/bros, I have a friend who's really into tea but I'm a total beginner.
What sort of gift would be appreciated? I'm thinking of the 2022 Yi Pin Chen Sheng Raw Pu-erh Tea Sample Box by CSH.
Any other rec's? Is that a good choice?

>>21737419
>Just calm your autism and brew a pot western style like a normal person.
where do you think you are?
>you'll spill leaves in your cup,
>uses a small steel sieve in you are way
>in case the thick glass didn't explode before even you make it to that point
this is a first world jug and as such it can withstand the heat
>Or hell use a french press.
I don't have one of those

I'm about to be eating lunch so I'll pour myself a cup to see how it tastes

>>21737463
>I'm thinking of the 2022 Yi Pin Chen Sheng Raw Pu-erh Tea Sample Box by CSH.
it's a good choice if he likes young sheng pu-erh. but if he doesn't, some teas in there may be too bitter for him. so make sure he does before buying.

>>21737569
Honestly not sure, I guess he doesn't like them bitter as he's treated me to tea multiple times and I can't understand flavors too deeply, but none of them were even remotely bitter. Would you have any other recs?

>>21737533
it didn't work
really bitter and astringent

almost as if someone brewed it for too long
what I'm gonna do tomorrow is the same as today but I'll brew it for a maybe a few minutes longer than I would in a cup and I'll pour it through a strainer into a glass bottle to stop the brewing before the flavour gets ruined and that should make it good

>>21737575
Could go with white tea, everyone likes white tea. I hear one river tea has good whites. Oolong is also safe

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>>21737463
I presume you saw it already but I have a CSH referral code for $20 off (I get $20 off myself if you use it):
>>21735475
>Link:
>https://i.refs.cc/i9DCkFen?smile_ref=eyJzbWlsZV9zb3VyY2UiOiJzbWlsZV91aSIsInNtaWxlX21lZGl1bSI6IiIsInNtaWxlX2NhbXBhaWduIjoicmVmZXJyYWxfcHJvZ3JhbSIsInNtaWxlX2N1c3RvbWVyX2lkIjoxOTIwNjcwMzk3fQ%3D%3D

>>21737463
>What sort of gift would be appreciated? I'm thinking of the 2022 Yi Pin Chen Sheng Raw Pu-erh Tea Sample Box by CSH.
>Is that a good choice?
As the other anon said it depends on in they like young sheng puerh (see picrel). If they do than it would be a nice gift, otherwise it is possible they will find it too strong. The tea is good but young sheng can be more finicky to brew.

Do you know if they drink any sheng or what teas they typically like?

>Any other rec's?
I have always had good luck with FL's black and oolong teas. Everything they have in stock should be tasty and generally approachable. FL should also be doing a BF sale sometime soon as well. Unfortunately, if you are in the USA FL has a $100 minimum free shipping threshold due to current tariffs.
https://farmerleaf.com/collections/yunnan-black-tea
https://farmerleaf.com/collections/yunnan-oolong-tea

>>21737626
>Could go with white tea, everyone likes white tea.
White tea has the opposite problem, sometimes people find it too soft.
>Oolong is also safe
Mostly but some dancongs can be quite bitter.

My hunch is from a Western perspective a mild Chinese black tea like a dianhong would be the most widely accepted tea among the general population and from an Asian perspective it would be a basic green tea like a longjing or sencha.

Where should i get black tea from

>>21737626
My dad thinks any white tea I give him tastes like lawn clippings.

>>21737679
Give him actual lawn clippings next time

Today it is "random 2002 cnnp sheng puerh" for me.
An old school looking production with mixed grade but unchopped leaves. The tea brews up dark orange. The flavor profile is camphor, petrichor, stone, peat, and a faint wisp of smoke. Still has a nice kick to it despite being tempered by age. No wet or off storage notes. I quite like this one and would buy more if I could. I tend to enjoy aged teas with a dominant camphor note.

Whats in you cup?

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anybody have experience with this website?

>>21737713
2010 001 7542, Taiwan storage

>>21737765
it's good. very mineralic, good texture, some bite left.

>>21737733
They sell xiaguan bricks for very inflated prices.

>>21737463
If you've got no clue what kind of tea he likes and don't want to give away the gift by asking, you could always opt for a nice piece of teaware instead. I've been gifted teacups before and it gives me a nice feeling to use them, especially when my friend visits and we can drink tea together from them.

>>21737611
>it didn't work
You didn't listen. Use the strainer directly in the pot directly and be a happy man. For bitterness reduce brewing temp and/or use less leaves.

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This is the green tea I always get from oocha
Which other green teas would you recommend (that you like)

>>21738052
From o-cha I liked the chiran and saemidori sencha
From chinese greens the only one I really liked so far was sanxia bi luo chun. Although I guess that's taiwanese, but closer to Chinese greens than Japanese

>>21738059
Hate to sound like a weeb but only Japanese green teas do it for me. I'll consider your suggestion though.

>>21737881
Nice

>>21737080
i mean I live the same lifestyle on neetbux...

except for matcha, it's Pu'er
except for supercars, it's an inherited w126, now a Holo itasha
except for family, it's no family
except for... well at least the time is the same

Should I still ge t green tea after season?
Why isn't cheaper?

>>21737216
its sad matcha got that sort of fame, i guess it just got unlucky because the culinary usage of it spread to actual matcha and very few care to brew it properly.
luckily i doubt puer or heicha will ever get to that stage of popularity because most people these days think fermentation = bacteria = ick, despite eating other fermented foods daily

>>21738146
Puer did get crazy popular in China for a while, but it wasn't really an international phenomenon.

>>21738146
I think ripe puerh could get popular
Showing off cakes and brewing up a black liquid might be good tiktok bait

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QUICK TELL THE BIRD HOW MANY KILOS OF TEA YOU HAVE AT HOME OR HE WILL STAB YOU

I regret writing off dayi sheng, I tried some bad examples and thought it's overpriced junk and I'll get the same for better prices on different factories, but now I've got a decent 8582 I'm seeing the light, good tea

>>21738249
I estimate 6kg

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>>21738249
I only have 678 grams of tea left! ;_;

>>21738249
less than 8 probably closer to 5-6kg

>>21738249
somewhere between 11 and 12 please don't hurt me

>>21738254
Which one did you get? I'm quite enjoying the 2010 7542 from Quiche. It's got that punchy mineralic Menghai character

>>21738285
Yeah from quiche, when they popped up with good prices I decided to challenge that opinion, glad I did
the 7542s sound nice, have had some younger ones and they were pretty good, I bet it does nice with taiwan storage

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That anon from few threads back, my friend gave me back these. Few questions:
1. How do you guys handle the heat when you use portable set like this?
2. Any idea how good are the tea box and the tea cake?

>>21738362
No idea about the cake. The box appears to be a fancier buddy picking at least, if the photo can be trusted

>>21738362
>handle the heat
What do you mean by that?

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>>21738249
Rough estimate, two kilos! I'm placing an order on Dayi ripe tomorrow, though (only after putting it off for two weeks). A budget brick and a strip of v93, +750g. I might up that to 1kg if someone has a good word for the 7562 brick?

>>21738467
7562 brick is solid, good tea for the price

>>21738426
I don't know, I think the ceramic is too thin that when I use the set, it gets too hot for my hands, at least for the first pour

>>21738521
If the vessel isn't filled all the way to the top, the top part should be less hot, allowing you to hold it with some practice. You can try supporting it from the bottom as well. If the bottom is thicker, it won't heat up as fast. Not sure if this advice applies to what you have, but something to consider.

>>21738249
about 2.5kg when my next chinky order arrives

How do you brew yancha? I've always just used a gaiwan but I've been considering getting a small teapot

>>21738753
I have a little 80ml yixing that I use for yancha, I use the marshaln method of lots of leaves and flash steeps until the flavor starts to fade.
I fill the pot like halfway with dry leaf

>>21738249
about 2.8kg of ~20 different teas

>>21738249
3.62kg of tracked tea. maybe half a kilo of untracked black tea for breakfasts.

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i talked to taetea on taobao and they recommended these two if you like the chunpin. I'm going to order some tea supplies but i'm excited to try these two

>>21739524
>the chunpin
This one? First time I heard of this particular cake
https://kingteamall.com/en-gb/products/2012-dayi-chun-pin-mellowness-cake-357g-puerh-shou-cha-ripe-tea

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>>21739557
yup that's the one. I mentioned it a few threads back it's my favorite one. It isn't bitter but smooth and have a plum and fruity aftertaste. I asked them if they had more teas like this one and told them i wasn't a fan of the raw one because of the bitterness. they told me (in order of my picture):
>这款暂时没有哦,亲亲,这款会比7572用料更细嫩,口感会比7572和醇品细腻醇滑,滋味会比醇品更浓厚,陈香带有甜香哦
>This one isn't available right now, dear. This one uses more delicate ingredients than 7572, resulting in a smoother and more refined texture, a richer flavor, and a sweet, aged aroma. The tea has a moderate fermentation stage, resulting in tightly rolled, uniform leaves with visible golden tips. The tea liquor is bright, deep red, with a rich, smooth, and mellow flavor and a pure aged aroma. Please take a look at this one, dear. There are quite a few repeat customers.


>亲,金针白莲是茶叶居多的,制作的茶底都是使用茶芯,用料比较嫩,甜度比较高哦
>Dear, Golden Needle White Lotus tea is mostly made from tea leaves, and the base is made using the tender tea buds, resulting in a higher sweetness level.

I mentioned i didn't like a few that i tried, loved the chunpin, but don't like some of the bitter raws they sell. I kept it to only items they sell and the CS recommended a few. they even have flavor charts for some items as well. The cs on taobao for most things is really nice. also wish that there was nice CS like that here still.

Where the blacksales

Will we get new teas on farmer leaf for black friday?

>>21738249
About 12 kg of tea and another 1-2 of tisanes.

>>21740145
Cspuerh and white2tea right now. I would expect Farmerleaf to join soon

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>>21740405
Thought we were about to get some docking at the end there.

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>>21736188
>>21736194
i got mine a few days ago. mine has the same selection, except i have one mini that has no design on the packaging. it's just in a completely blank wrapper.

I don’t know shit about tea…But I have Trader Joe’s organic Earl Grey, I put 1 tsp honey and a splash of milk. It’s very good, ok that is all.

>>21738249
Probably nearly three quarters of 1 Kilo?
250 Gram cake of puehr I've been chipping at for a bit. A bunch of small 25 Gram packets I've been consuming
Three 100 grams of loose leaf I got for western style brewing.

>>21738249
My last awazon order was over 5kg. 600g of snoozefest otw. Then another 7kg+ in the main cambro. And a few random cakes laying around?

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I've had four of my teas from my W2T Shulloween shipment so far each day since I got it. In order, it's been:
>2025 520 Jin
>2024 Pink Candy
>2022 Frankenpu
>2025 Regular Enlistment (today).
There are many more to try from the grab bag, and I don't want to spam the gen, but I have been writing notes for each. Not sure if it'd be best to post on a Pastebin or similar to avoid flooding. At the very least for now, I'll post my brief notes on my (ongoing) Regular Enlistment session:
____
7g/90C/10s

Dry leaf initially smells of sweet soil, but then light syrup, and oddly, butter. Wet leaf blends the butter and syrup notes rather well, almost resembling American pancakes. Unexpectedly nice.

Low-medium thickness, low bitterness, medium-high astringency.

Flavor on the palate itself is less pronounced, if a little flat. Initial infusion was too light; clearly needs temp and time to push it along. Still, hard to describe; something between non-sweet soil and old books/wood in aftertaste. It isn't particularly bad, but a bit strange when paired with the otherwise very pleasant leaf aroma notes.

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2025 Regular Enlistment ball and wrapper. It's a weird one overall to my senses, especially for a relatively young shou. The aroma is nice, but the palate experience is a bit of a letdown when paired with it. Still grateful to have tea today.

>>21741074
I'm a fan that one, seems I'm in the minority camp.
Thanks for the write ups

>>21741091
Of course. Though, do my notes align with your personal impressions much? I think the aroma is rather pleasant, I'm just wondering what's up with the sip experience itself. Maybe I could infuse it differently to get more out of it.

>>21741122
I got one out to try and square our impressions and realised I got it mixed up with Icabod.
RE I think mostly same as you actually, not much for taste but I enjoyed the mouthfeel, and I think I gave it extra points for not being generic W2T shu #3743

>>21735204
The more I read about tea the more I learn I am doing it wrong.
Without breaking the bank how do I get a good reliable cup. Everything just has the flavor of hot water.

>>21741162
What are you drinking at the moment? Is there something you already like?
Otherwise somebody gonna tell you to buy 20 year old mouldy liu bao (me)

>>21741074
>There are many more to try from the grab bag, and I don't want to spam the gen, but I have been writing notes for each.
I think it makes most sense to post how they compare to each other. Which you would buy again, duds, highlights etc

If I'm doing western style brewing and all I have are minis, does it matter if I break the ball apart first or can I just let it spread apart naturally while brewing?

>>21741497
It'll likely spread without fuss. You can break it up if you want, it doesn't matter.

>>21741497
Steeps faster when you break it up, your choice.

someone fix the gentry. its got the wrong temp and slightly wrong amounts for oolong on the gong fu chart

>>21741610
*rentry

Where is that taobao tea anon? Did your stuff arrive without getting confiscated by the FDA new customs thing?

>>21741610
The Oolong parameters in the Rentry worked well for me.
Oolong is a vast field of very different teas which makes it hard to generalize. Counting seconds for the steeps is kinda autistic, people will quickly do it by feel and adjust to how the tea actually behaves.

>>21741636
I guess but if it had broader parameters it'd make it clear that you need to figure out what works for each tea.
if temp said like 80-100 and the amount was like 4-6.5g it'd be better IMO

Japanese blacks any good?

>>21741642
>it'd make it clear that you need to figure out what works for each tea
If that's not stated outright it probably should be.
Giving such a broad range would kind of make it useless. It's a jumping off point, and I don't think it's wrong at all either. In any case those parameters aren't going to ruin your tea, they might not suit your taste but it's up to you to adjust to suit your taste no matter what the starting point was.
Also why would you just say it's "wrong" and "slightly wrong" without telling us what you think it should be? Should the rentry anon just guess as to what you think is ideal?
There is no one definitive "right" or "wrong".

>>21741714
I though it was clear that I just meant in my opinion because I was talking about something subjective sorry.
you make a good point about if it was more broad it wouldn't be a good jumping off point and I hadn't rlly thought of that, I was just kinda half asleep and brewing some young lightly oxidized oolong and thought about how it might be best for the rentry to have a range of weights/temps rather than just saying 6-6.5g 100°C

>>21741728
Yeah sorry if I came across as a dick. Some guy was bitching about the rentry a little while back like a know it all but without offering any constructive criticism and I might have misdirected my annoyance at him towards you.

Anyways, what kind of oolong specifically? I haven't had many because I prefer darker ones, but even with my Anxi tieguanyin I like to use 100°C, I've never got any bitterness or anything.

>>21741643
>>>/pol/

>>21741643
no, blacks in japan no good

>>21741738
its all good man :)
I can't find really fuck all info on this tea other than its from ureshino in saga prefecture and its made with yabukita.
it was a horribly overpriced sample I got from tealyra, I really hate that company but they sometimes have good tea.
>I like to use 100°C, I've never got any bitterness
yeah i think for oolong getting bitter is mostly a function of how long its steeped and in what volume of water. if you put a lot in the gaiwan and do a short brew with 100°C water you can get zero bitterness from even shit like dan cong that is known for being easy to accidentally make bitter.
however I kinda feel like I get a more complete flavour profile from oolongs with a slightly longer infusion so I'm starting to experiment with lower temps.

>>21741757
oh i forgot to say also that with very green oolong i feel like the higher temps can cook off some of the more delicate flavours. idk if that's science but it makes sense in my head xD

>>21741757
>>21741766
Jap oolong sounds interesting, I've never had one. I'm kind of too lazy to experiment with temperatures below boiling for anything other than green tea. If the tea can't handle it then oh well, there are plenty that can lol. It could be the case that more delicate flavors of green oolongs get lost but idk, I prefer dark roasted stuff anyways

>>21741829
fair enough.
its pretty good but not worth the price, if you can get it from somewhere reasonably priced id reccomend it, otherwise id stick to chinese and taiwanese.

>>21741643
Japanese can't make a good tea therefore they can't make a good black tea either.
>>21738249
Around 5kg last time I checked. Could be less now, I was doing some cleaning.

Cam anyone recommend any good dayi raw?
Something other than 7542.

>>21741888
>Cam anyone recommend any good dayi raw?
I hear the 8582 from QuicheTeas is good

Farmerleaf will release some black friday promo on Thursday
They posted photos of some little cloth bags. Maybe some sort of new sampled?

>>21741888
>Japanese can't make a good tea
Greens shit aswell?

>w2t special sold out
Do they just make a small amount of it or is it really this popular with the tea people

>>21742011
Yeah they always go pretty quick, I think the answer is yes to both.

>>21741977
Show me your FL carts

>>21742120
I would probably buy a cake of autumn Jingmai gushu. I got the 2023 as a sample and liked it and it's 20$ cheaper this year

If they add autumn LME small trees I might buy that instead. The gushu is more pricey and I haven't heard if it's good yet

>>21742179
I'm gonna sample it for sure only because its supposed to be just the sweet varietal.
The spring small trees with both bitter and sweet varietal mixed were too much for me.

>>21742179
>autumn Jingmai gushu
Was eyeing that one up myself, or maybe the gua feng zhai

>>21742053
Well the way it gets hyped out i thought it would sell out on the 1st day but it was up for a decent amount of time

>>21741643
I had one that was nice. Tasted like cherries.

>>21742365
iirc it has done in previous years. It's a pretty slow year for tea it seems.

>>21742430
mmmh, absolutely divine lukewarm water

Has anyone here had W2T's Bonesy yet? I can't tell if I'm getting sick or something, but the aroma is so faint and unclear for me right now, it's almost uncanny. Not sure if I should even bother with notes.

>>21735204
is it fine to brew loose leaf tea in a french press?

>>21743098
Yes.

>>21742011
>Do they just make a small amount of it or is it really this popular with the tea people
Most likely to both. It is also cheap enough that people buy multiple cakes or tongs making it sell out faster.
>>21742365
Last year it did sell out in a day or so. I wanted some but waited and missed out

>>21743098
If the glass part is tall enough, the leaves will probably have sunk to the bottom by the time you'll pour out the liquour (though stems might float), meaning you won't have to press the leaves, potentially squeezing out bitterness, or tainting the flavour with coffee that's stuck to the filter bit. It's just decanting grandpa style.

>>21741981
I like genmaicha, but haven't had any luck brewing gyokuro. You need one of those autistic flat teapots to do it properly, which seems to go for a lot of japanese tea.

>>21743187
Doesn't the description actually say "buy a tong or two for aging"?

>>21743098
Yes, but personally I find it requires a little bit of extra agitation to get the leaves to give up the good stuff over a more rounded pot..

>>21743485
>when you squeeze leaves, they will seek revenge and release undesired bitter flavors
tea lore

>>21743707
lmao

>>21743485
>You need one of those autistic flat teapots to do it properly
why tho? I'm sure there's some autistic reason for it, but it eludes me.

>>21742354
The 2023 Jingmai autumn gushu sample was very soft with a nice depth and relaxing

>>21743485
>Doesn't the description actually say "buy a tong or two for aging"?
Achctually you should buy it all to get the real w2t experience.
I just cant take this aging meme seriously.
Their target audience are western normies and unless they have good setup with somewhat constant temperature and humidity it will age like shit.
In europe/murica people just dont have the same free perfect storage conditions like in jingmai for example.
If tou want aged stuff, buy aged factory cakes straight from chinks. It's the best way.
Western vendors have interesting young stuff and you can straight away know if you like it or not without waiting a decade.

>>21744300
I agree. Western vendors overemphasize aging when the reality is a lot of their tea is not made to be aged and has no proven aging potential
Just because it's technically raw puerh, doesn't mean it will get better with age. And long term aging of puerh in the west is annoying to get right

>>21744307
To my taste, with the tea that's good to drink fresh it's not good by 2 years like green tea.. I don't know if it's my storage causing it

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Teewald Advent 2025 contents for anyone who is interested.

Anyone else couldn't resist buying an advent?

>>21743485
>>21744300
>>21744307
>Doesn't the description actually say
"Drink now or age for the long haul." Really not all that egregious. You don't need to imagine things to get upset at a vendor you don't like.
https://white2tea.com/collections/latest-additions/products/2025-snoozefest

>>21744334
What is your RH?
Could be the tea, could be a lots of things.
There was the controversial post about YS cakes that were process too green so they dont age for shit and in ten years all you got is stale tea, which is funny especially since they charge quite a lot for older cakes.
>>21744350
Fair. Must have been the last year's version or the one before... I dont remember desu, I've look at their stuff few years back, got angry by the lack of actual info about what the fuck am I buying and never opened their site again.

>>21744362
>What is your RH?
55-65%, at various times, only intended for keeping the cakes good while I drink em, but stuff ends up hanging around
I've noted similar "flat" taste in some older drink now cakes from vendors, but haven't had enough to feel comfortable coming to a conclusion yet. For now I just buy what I'll drink in one year

>>21744336
I'm surprised to see one that actually has interesting tea in it, not bad

>>21744362
>last year's version or the one before
Its been a straight copy paste job every year. He actually fucked up and posted the wrong free shipping price for a while this year. I guess you can bitch that they mentioned "hype" from 2017-2019.
https://white2tea.com/products/2017-snoozefest

KTM black friday promo is active btw. 10% off on everything

I wonder what FL will add tomorrow. They definitely teased something aside from a sale

>>21744300
I disagree. Storing tea properly for the long term is not difficult. Once setup, the effort to maintain it is very low. "Aging like shit" requires utter negligence. It takes years to fuck up a cake excluding foreign contaminants. By encouraging Western normies to grab more than just immediate consumption, vendors are encouraging them to become hobbyists and collectors. Sure the cynical board view is "normies out reeeee" but that's not how I view tea. I want good Chinese tea to be as popular as fine coffee. I want more of my family, friends, and city to be independently curious about tea.

I think you're getting caught up on the minutiae of aging that is done by obsessive tea bloggers. Their work is important for understanding the relatively new frontier of Western aged tea, but it is not essential. It is not essential to have perfect storage conditions. Minmaxing is antithetical to the hobby.
>If tou want aged stuff, buy aged factory cakes straight from chinks. It's the best way.
This can be true at the same time. That doesn't invalidate long term storage of teas at home. Nobody in the aged spirits or tobacco world would tell someone to buy only on demand.

>>21744514
>By encouraging Western normies to grab more than just immediate consumption, vendors are encouraging them to become hobbyists and collectors.
They just wanna sell stock.
Becoming "collector" is just one of many predatory tactics, look at funko pops.
>I want good Chinese tea to be as popular as fine coffee
I have nothing about good tea becoming mainstream.
If anything it would probably freed teaculture from hipsters and spiritual nonsense, two of my biggest gripes.

Redpill me on pressed black tea. Good or gimmick?

>>21744300
>Their target audience are western normies and unless they have good setup with somewhat constant temperature and humidity it will age like shit.
Even with a substandard setup, taking a good tea into the future, where it is otherwise unavailable and sold-out is kind of cool.

>>21741643
I've never had any, but from what I hear neither have most japs. They tend to drink foreign blacks and oolongs.

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>tfw no autistic teapot-making gf

>>21744577
i don't think it makes much of a difference other than most of the premium material probably doesnt get pressed into cakes so if its going for a premium price its probably not worth it but for storage purposes its probably nice

Always a slightly bitter feeling to finish a tea, even if it was only a 25-gramme sample from years ago that you don't plan to buy more of...

>>21744893
>i don't think it makes much of a difference
Agreed, though aged dianhong does change slightly.
>most of the premium material probably doesnt get pressed into cakes so if its going for a premium price
True for the cheap Chinese cakes but some of the western vendors like W2T and YS do commission premium dianhong cakes made out of choicer pickings. My understanding is that dianhong as a whole tends to be cheaper because it is typically made from small/young plantation bushes or off season pickings from puerh trees. Most old tree yunnan tea leaves go into sheng because that market tends to pay best.

>>21744336
hey, that's pretty cool. maybe something I can afford to do next year.

>>21744408
>I wonder what FL will add tomorrow. They definitely teased something aside from a sale
I am curious too.

I know LiquidProust plans to drop a bunch of stuff on Black Friday. He does not always do percent off discounts but he often has new interesting drops then. For example he had some good (and cheap) Lao Man E dianhong cakes several years back. Hoping he has some good budget options this year.

I thought Black Friday was last Friday? American holidays are weird.

>>21745179
Friday after Thanksgiving. But marketing is pervasive so we've got "black friday" sales from october to january.

>>21745179
Back in the day Black Friday really was only the Friday and maybe the following weekend. Eventually it got extended a few more day with Cyber Monday online sales the week after Thanksgiving. Also traditionally there was a huge focus on "Door Busters", big ticket items on deep discount but with limited stock so people would wait in line for hours or even camp out to try and get them. Nowadays many shops start sales start weeks before Black Friday/Cyber Monday and there is less emphasis on Door Busters with more general discounts instead. The biggest sales still tend to to be on Black Friday/Cyber Monday however. Honestly, It is better this way, I don't miss waiting in line or fighting the crowds and the retail or online shop workers undoubtedly appreciate not being swamped quite as badly.

>>21744865
Is there a version of this that's not at ADHD speed

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>>21744957
Finishing 2024 Fa Zhan He cake today
Still a solid daily sheng, getting more fruit after 1.5 year

>>21745901
Nice, finished my 2023 FZH last year.
I still have some 2023 Bangwai Small Trees left and it developed a more pronounced tobacco note in the meantime.

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Any of you anons ever get concerned about cleanliness and/or safety of tea?
I'm talking about both the general hygiene and cleanliness surround its production, storage, transport, etc... but also the risk of land and water contamination in the country of production.

For me:
Japan - my favourite teas, no concerns, top tier
China - a step down, but nothing to put me off my daily keemun. not concerned about hygiene etc more pollution
Kenya - I occasionally like it as a strong breakfast tea. I've actually visited tea plantations in Kenya. Very poor, but good people. I feel like such places are at the minimum threshold of food standards.

India -
I know it's a meme... but holy shit it's a horrendous place. I've had the misfortune of having to go there several times. It's every bit as bad as you think. To the degree you'd burn you clothes and suitcases rather than bring them back into your home. Not only does hygiene simply not exist in their minds, but every square inch of that country is polluted. I can't see how anything grown there can be safe for human consumption. I appreciate there are some famous teas from India, and it's a country with a big tea history, but I can't get over my India ptsd.

>>21746001
>Japan
japs use a shit ton of pesticides, but so does all agriculture so... it is what it is

honestly i drink a lot of ripe and that shit is made by dumping the leaf on a warehouse floor, wetting then leaving it to compost for 2 months.

as for india that place should ease your mind because if they can live like that then the human body is FAR more resilient than our pussyfooting hover parents ever imagined.

>>21746027
>japs use a shit ton of pesticides, but so does all agriculture so... it is what it is
Yeah, no escaping it. I have to be realistic - I'm not going to be buying bespoke tea from some hillside in Bhutan or something.
Japan, like Europe, at least has some sort of regulation and standards.

> honestly i drink a lot of ripe and that shit is made by dumping the leaf on a warehouse floor, wetting then leaving it to compost for 2 months.
That in itself doesn't bother me though. I'm not expecting lab conditions or anything crazy. I live in the countryside and I'm used to see normal food production. It's no different to lots of other food processes.
When I watch videos of tea production in places like Taiwan, for example, the factory at least looks reasonably clean and tidy. It doesn't produce an instant feeling of repulsion.
That factory floor in India will be horrific.

> india that place should ease your mind because if they can live like that then the human body is FAR more resilient than our pussyfooting hover parents ever imagined
You can't live like that. If you go to India and eat in 'regular' places you'll be in trouble.
Plus, I'm thinking long term here. The hygiene aspect is one part. But there's a lot of literature out there about contamination in tea from India. I'm an oldfag with a fucked brain, so it's less of a concern to me... but I worry about young family members.

>>21745892
Search for "制壶全记录|我无法画出完美的圆" on Xiaohongshu.

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>>21746137
I wish it was a suprise as a gift sample while ordering would have been nice.Pray for William giving us suprise new autumn teas please credit card is ready I want to burn it don't care about christmas I want my tea.

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>>21746137
>>21746155
They did put up a photo of this cup. And some samples in little bags, not sure what that's all about.

>>21746137
William fatfingering his listings again, what a tease

Sample pack, cup and gaiwan added already.

>>21746237
Any thoughts on the value proposition of the sample pack?
It's 55$ for 160g of tea. Some of the samples are of pricey tea though

>>21746257
I didn't try all of the listed teas before for a try out I think it's better than ordering a fa zhan he full cake at 42$. You have black tea, white, sheng and shou the price for value I don't know but the variety is good. For a first order on farmer leaf I would take the sample to get an idea of what he sells. Oolongs are also good but missing from the sampler would push the price higher too much I think. Little 5$ cup with the sample for 48$ after discount that's pretty good.

>>21746264
The jingmai sun dried pack on the pictures looks to be more than 20g but listed as such I don't know if the picture of listing is wrong. Also that jingmai black tea from spring non gushu is not listed as a stand alone for some time now.

Is there expectation of new tea from FL or can I get me order in

>>21746280
No the newsletter said no new teas, only the sampler pack and the teawares.

>>21746283
Cheers

I wish there was some ailao oolong left or more black teas, two are already sold out, only gushu left and the oolong back from summer 2024. For those who looks at the oriental beauty from fen shui ling I liked the summer 2024 better at the time or release over the spring 2025 not sure how they both evolved since in yunnan storage.

I HATE PUERH I HATE PUEHR, where are the sales for regular teas

>>21746314
KingTeaMall And YunnanSourcing are both running sales

>>21746314
Kingteamall and white2tea have a big selection of stuff

>>21746314
Puer is the second best edible liquid though. (First if you exclude liquids of dubious legality)

So Yunnansourcing US has a sale, and wanting to avoid tariffs and pay less for tea I think I’ll be taking advantage of it. Are there any sample packs, or just cheap things to try out any of you would recommend. I’m getting the Yunnan Black Gold Bi Luo Chun. Like the sweet, malty, fruity, teas. Big fan of Japanese greens and hojicha.

>>21746386
Chinese tea is exempt from tariffs as of November 13.

>>21746386
a 2022 v93 tuo. really cheap way to get 100g of a decent, reliable shu pu-erh

>>21746386
I keep meaning to buy another bag of this, bit of a banger for the price
https://yunnansourcing.us/products/sweet-potato-zheng-shan-xiao-zhong-black-tea

>>21746314
https://www.teavivre.com/40-off.html
https://yunomi.life/collections/specials

>>21746393
That may not be entirely true. The base tariff rate on tea was dropped but there may still be one or two bonus tariffs on Chinese goods. Plus the shipping companies may still screw up and try to collect tariffs even when they are not owed.

>>21746471
It's a mess.

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FL sale!! here's what i got bros
I came in specifically for autumn lao man e gushu but ended up grabbing yan leng yun and the teacup too to get free shipping

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>>21746644
I really wanted to try Hekai, and I'm running out of tflz.
LME gushu could also be cool, so I sampled that as well.

Damn, I always have several carts going and never know which one to buy
I need ripe and could use some raw and roasted oolong

It's gonna be either one cake of raw from FL or cspuerh + ripe from w2t, or one order from KTM of both. But KTM shipping is 25$ for only 1kg of tea, kind of sucks

>>21746471
teavivre looking decent

Thats it i'm ordering tea from aliexpress

>>21747008
>(not so) subtle notes of salt

>>21747008
Damn that's a pretty cup.

Almost everything I wanted to buy from FL is showing out of stock... Teabros I don't feel so good.

>>21747014
The sample pack better still be available tomorrow, or I will chimp.

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>>21746758
Okay I decided to order one cake from FL, gotta use their lower prices this year

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>>21746758
>>21747038
And a bunch of cheap shit from KTM
Quite excited to finally have a lot of cheap yancha on hand

>Yancha is an oolong with leaves processed as strips rather than balls

Tasty?

Did you already start to use a random number generator to decide which of your teas to sip?

>>21747049
Yes if you like roasty flavors, often approaching coffee or dark chocolate flavors

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>>21747060
The only oolong I've tried thus far is that duck shit one. It's pretty good. I need to try other kinds.

>>21747068
Duck shit is dancong
The other major types are:
>Taiwanese
>Yancha / Wuyi
>Anxi

Is it just me or is Superbuy insanely difficult to use. No matter what I try, I always get a bunch of weird error messages.

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>The name root beer is in reference to the root of the sassafras tree, Sassafras albidum, which is its primary constituent.
>organic root beer flavoring.

What the fuck is wrong with these people

>>21747354
It'll taste better I guarantee you. You don't actually want sassafras.

>>21747381
How am I going to make xtc out of this shit without real sassafrasss?

Why is matcha memed so much? Anyone here likes it unironically? I don't make any fancy drinks with it, I love it both with plain water and with some lemon and mint.

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>>21747479
>Moreover, much of the commercially available matcha abroad is culinary grade, intentionally more bitter and often masked with sugar or syrups, rarely resembling the unsweetened, whisked matcha served in a quiet Kyoto tea house.

Currently revisiting Quiche Tea's Favorite's Set.
Tastes different from when I initially tried it. I might've mis-stored it, but I am not sure. On the 2003 Changtai Brown, I am getting pure notes and autumn leaf pile. I recall there being more nuance previously. For the 2008 Dayi 8582, I am getting notes of white grape, sweetness, sourness, and a taste of ripe fruit. Wet leaves smell of apricot. I will note that I live in an area where the humidity inside is naturally higher (60-75%). Is it necessary to look into getting Boveda's, in that case, or nah?

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>Thomas M. Grömer, from Vienna, Austria, is a successful European tea entrepreneur known as the “Tea Pope”. In the 1990s, Thomas went to Japan to study, majoring in tea at university and obtaining a Japanese tea taster certificate.

>After graduating and returning to Vienna for military service, Thomas worked as a journalist for several years and interviewed many entrepreneurs, which inspired him deeply and led him to decide to start his own business. He approached investors to propose his idea and together they formed a tea company, which was successfully registered in 2003. He utilized his expertise in tea, language, and familiarity with the source market to enable the company to directly import green tea products from Japan, with a focus on matcha products.

Is he to blame for all of this?

>>21747482
okay

Its an inky black shou with advil kind of night. Does cha qi help with migraines?

>>21748010
Not particularly with pain in my experience, but the tea does soothe the mind and busy the hands

>>21748023
Usually a nice trickle of caffeine is the only thing that gets me over pain mountain. Didn't have enough energy to make coffee or matcha so I just passed out with an eye mask instead and now I'm playing catch up with some w2t gingerbread man. Seems to have broken now. At least lights don't hurt anymore.

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VietSunTea 15% BF discount is live - which means they are still too expensive.

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>>21748043
Does make me wonder if one of these things might be useful for bedside darkened room tea.

>>21748055
Yes, fun to try but I don't understand why border tea became so expensive

>>21748061
Every now and then some type of tea becomes a domestic fad and the Chinese tea slurping horde pumps up the demand very high

>no yeeon sale
Moldbros...

>>21747494
any thoughts on the other two? I have both of those cakes
I will probably buy the 8582 too at some point, heard good stuff about it

Got frustrated by the lack of stock on FL, said fuck it and somewhat impulsively dropped 130€ on almost 2kg of various ripes (and a white cake) from quicheteas.
First time ordering from a non-boutique foreign store, hopefully I won't get euroraped by eurotaxes (FL always made sure of that) and my order won't take months to show up. If other anons from Europe have already done business with quicheteas, I'd be happy to hear about your experience.

>>21748265
easy there bwoy, don't scratch the coffin.
>>21748282
seam reasonable. why only compost tea (and a raked leaves tea)? if they are shipping from taiwan it should be easier to go by eu hounds than mainland.

>>21748282
I've ordered from them twice to the EU
No issues. They did lower the stated value, so taxes were low
I would have probably gotten some aged raw from them too, they have the best prices on factory classics. Literally half or less of the price from some other vendors

>>21748293
I originally wanted to stock up on cheap FL ripes and whites, both out of stock. I like stuff I can just dunk in a cup and mindlessly drink grandpa style. Quicheteas was mentioned here and there and had a lot of what seemed like beloved teas I'd never tried, mostly dayi, for very low prices.
Whether or not I'll still consider them low priced by the time they get to my door, if they ever do, remains to be seen.

>>21748302
how much was the shipping for almost 2 kg?
you'll pay about 10 eur handling and be sorted, don't worry

>>21748300
>They did lower the stated value
Thank fuck, thanks for the info anon. Yeah I thought about getting some aged raw, but I didn't find young raw all that interesting and honestly that's a rabbit hole I'm not willing to go down yet, especially when I still have stuff like oolongs to explore.

>>21748308
$30 for 1821g of tea, if you go past 2kg it's $35. Somewhat expensive but Tee Kontor Kiel is right next door and they had me pay 12€ for like 400g of tea so I don't really mind, everything was so cheap it just works out in the end even with shipping+taxes.

>>21748311
Aged raw is pretty different, the 2005 t8653 I bought from Quiche basically tastes like wood, barbeque, menthol cigs and chocolaty charcoal with a nice mouthfeel. All of the fruity and green notes of young raw have been aged out

>>21748325
That sounds pretty good actually, every young raw I've tried has been in this weird place like it's trying to be different types of tea at once and it just doesn't work all that well.
I checked that t8653 and it's a bit more cash that I'm currently willing to spend on a single cake for now but I might get a sample one of these days.

>>21748282
uhh, FL is really not a ripe specialist. Why didn't you get Shulloween? It was far below $10 per 100g and grandpa style friendly. Anyways, let us know how your budget mulch turned out fren.

>>21748300
>They did lower the stated value
I always tell vendors not to do that. I had two tea packages permanently seized by customs already (FL and Awazon). Chinks putting forged incoices on parcels is the main reason they are now looking extra close. One time I had to show up in person with the original shop invoice and my Paypal payment confirmation for them to check if it lines up.
Tax on food items like tea is only 7% in my country so I much rather pay that with the real invoice and live in peace.

>>21748311
For me young sheng is a very easy and fun to explore category. Aged stuff (shou or sheng) is harder to get into.

>>21748344
>uhh, FL is really not a ripe specialist. Why didn't you get Shulloween? It was far below $10 per 100g and grandpa style friendly.
I sampled a lot of their stuff and the cheap ripes were bretty good so I wanted to buy more, plus I like their transparency. I've never ordered from w2t but they do seem to have some good shit, to be honest I was going to order either from Quiche or from them, Quiche won this time.
>Anyways, let us know how your budget mulch turned out fren.
I will, see you guys in 6 weeks kek

>>21748344
Shulloween is more expensive than factory ripe. It's a fun event if you like dragonballs, but not an outstanding deal if you just want the best value per gram

>>21748344
>Tax on food items like tea is only 7% in my country so I much rather pay that with the real invoice and live in peace.
Makes sense. It's useful for EU VAT though, which is 20 something percent
Funnily enough Awazon put the real value on the package and I had to pay full VAT. Same with Yeeon. All other chinese stores seem to lower it by default unless you ask them not to

>>21748337
The 2011 Jinse Yinxiang is similar to that and cheaper, but has a bit of fruitiness still left. Still a great value aged raw if you like barbeque smoke

>>21748417
Interesting, they don't even mention smokiness in the description, not that I expect them to be accurate but still. As usual the only reliable source of information is other anons on a Peruvian noseflute tuning forum.

>>21748448
The typical chinky descriptions don't have much in the way of notes, just assurances that the tea is good quality. Farmerleaf has good descriptions, but on sites like Quiche they don't tell you much
Most Xiaguan raws from that period are smoky, it is a well known house taste of the brand

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i got this from the bargain bin at the asian grocery. it's chinese black tea
it has some anime guy on it idk why

>>21748055
Their black tea is good(deep forest) and I don't know any other vendors that sell something comparable but cheaper.
Their puer was ok, but definitely not worth the extra money.
Maybe the tua chua, but they don't have that this year.
Not sure if I'm getting to that $77 free shipping mark... anything else notable from them?

Farmerleaf is already out of LME Autumn gushu and Jingmai Autumn gushu
looks like a lot of people waited until the sale to buy the autumn teas. glad I pulled the trigger on that Jingmai. the sample I got was much better than the Miyun

I purchased tea 2 weeks ago and now it's on sale, resulting in me failing to save $9 Now I will have to commit sudoku (but first I must finish all my tea)

>>21748655
That's why people wait for black Friday
I saved a whole 3.5$ on my KTM order, pure skill, took months of planning but it's possible

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>>21748655
I'm in the same boat desu, could have saved $100 on my order from KTM, oh well

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>>21748713
Slightly cheaper at QuicheTeas btw
It was on sale some time ago for 100$ per cake too

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>>21748739
yeah I saw that but KTM let me pay with bitcoin which was more comfy, and I liked their storage for that cake

I'm struggling to find temporally matched teaware to my puer and it's killing the huigan, anyone know where I can get some mid 90s porcelain ware, Dehua preferably?

>>21748862
look for one of these, they made lots of them in the 80s and 90s:
https://www.banateacompany.com/pages/Vintage-Tea-Cup-Translucent-Rice-Grain-Pattern.html?srsltid=AfmBOooVDrPsBBJvC0OfycyCZThdfCVZ-8nrc8Pj3AJRhCjA5QQuPP0j

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>>21748862
>anyone know where I can get some mid 90s porcelain ware

No, but this is pretty cool.

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Reading this thread, you'd think Puerh is the only type of tea. Any love for Darjeeling?
Just made an order at Thunderbolt tea. (currently having a 50% off black friday sale) Buying some First Flush and this green tea from Arya tea estate of which I still have the 2024 harvest and have been drinking sparingly because I didn't want it to finish.

>>21748892
I admit to having neglected darjeeling, how would you describe the nice stuff?

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>>21748892
>Any love for Darjeeling?
I've enjoyed what I've had, certainly, even if it's been relatively cheap stuff. It's just difficult returning to western brewing after picking up gongfu. Darjeeling was actually the first "real" tea I ever went out of my way to get, escaping grocery store tea. (Not the first time a blonde 2d girl inspired me to try new tea, funnily enough. I'll go put on a pot for old times' sake.)

>>21748892
I don't like darjeeling desu. too lightly oxidized for my tastes in black tea. I like them chocolaty and honeyed

evens and i get naka big trees,
odds and i get mohei + TFLZ

I'm drinking some cheap Genmaicha that I got from eBay.
Tastes like seaweed and breakfast cereal.

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I'm fucking tired of oolong lottery. I want light oolong, vendor's description says it's light oolong, nice light brew and green leaves on the pics, buy it, it's fucking overly oxidized brown shit.

>>21749240
Can't say I relate to that problem. Where are you buying from?

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>>21749240
I really liked eco-cha's high mountain oolongs if you're after something more green

though I've also learned to appreciate a heavy roast over time desu

>>21748892
I quite enjoy a bit of Darjeeling, though I don't really go deeper for it than Twinings, but their Two Seasons is a great spring/summer tea for enjoying outdoors when the weather warms up.

>The bag is made of pure cotton and feels great to the touch. You can use it as a handkerchief, to shed tears of joy after your first sessions, or in a couple of months when you check your bank account and reflect on your life choices.
kek the farmerleaf guy always cracks me up

how do I a sencha?
80-90°C or do I need to go lower?

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>>21749523
70-80 would be typical. you can increase the temperature on the third brew and any later ones

>Want some Golden Monkey
>Black Friday discounts are shit online

Do I just wait for Boxing Day deals?

Vietsun is 15 percent off site wide
I'm still working off my sampler but God that black tea was so good I might just have to place a fat order now, 15 dollar shipping be damned

>>21749781
I've only been seriously drinking tea for about two years but in that time I've never really seen sales worth waiting for. Maybe the w2t drops but I've never been on one of those before it sells out. I just took the 15% off loose leaf from YS and got myself some oolongs and blacks. Thought about doing KTM but the shipping still seemed really high, I'm hoping for this tariff mess to settle soon hopefully. I dunno I'll probably get from them or awazon in a couple months when I need puer

>>21749799
It really depends, best sale I've seen was a store in my local mall shutting down near the start of the coof and I got 4 samplers, a pound of Monk's Blend, and some novelty mugs and other junk at 85% off. Last big discount was Boxing Day 2 years ago when I bought 2 pounds (1 of golden monkey 1 of English breakfast) at 65% off from some company called Citizen Tea.

Never gone fancier than loose black tea though since I know what I like.

>First time in all my years of drinking tea that I ever carelessly lifted a filled gaiwan and spilled it on myself
Forgot I already filled it and was distracted. Thick shou to the arm and thigh. Use aloe vera, still burns; keep mindful anons! I'm lucky my gaiwan didn't break at least.

>>21749813
Beggin ya to venture into dark oolongs anon. Dong ding or ro gui or da hong pao or a traditionally roasted TGY. I drink a lot of golden monkey style black tea as well but those are my favs that I've found. Imo avoid the fluorescent green type TGY and similar offerings, those are everywhere but don't do it for me

>>21749844
For me its zoning out and forgetting I have the gaiwan brewing, remembering, lifting it up and the plate sticks to the bottom and I only notice once I start to pour and it falls on the cup. Lost a few good men that way

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Any expectations for the Xiaguan Five Great Vajiras set? I couldn't find any reviews online so I just blinded a set since it's just $16/cake - and now it's almost sold out

>>21749877
I don't know about that year, but it's hard to go wrong with Xiaguan if you like trad factory flavors and that cost/cake is solid. I wish I just bought from Quiche instead of W2T, damn it.

>>21749849
There needs to be a term for that. A verb.

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I'm something of a tea enthusiast myself

>>21749590
tastes like chlorophyl and squid. this might be super low grade sencha though.

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>started getting into tea as a replacement for alcoholism
>I drink a lot, like 2-5 cups per day
>Got Taylor's brand loose leaf, started expanding into other brands from there
>like trying different kinds of teas from different regions and countries, love variety, love different herbal infusions
>Never had a tea cake
>Never had any actual chinese import
>want to get into it somewhat, and also Japanese Matcha but the ritual and prep and proper brewing processes intimidate and terrify me
Tea anons, I come to you as a beginner. Teach me. How do I fully appreciate the culture of tea?

>>21749877
damn, that's really good. would definitely shoot that if I wasnt broke.

Recommend me some Mariage Freres teas to try out (other than Marco Polo.)

>>21749977
Check out the vendors in the rentry, get some samples of whatever sounds interesting (or you can ask for some recs here and probably someone knows something good)
After that keep on sipping, no need to overthink things.

>>21749983
Do you want a kind of tea in particular? I like the collection of japanese smoked tea they have. Did you try the oolong version of the marco polo?

>>21749977
>Teach me. How do I fully appreciate the culture of tea?
Honestly, relaxing and not over-complicating it is the first step. It's easy to mystify it, but at it's core, it's largely just chilling while infusing dried Asian leaves. If you're stressing about it, I'd argue you're depriving yourself of the full experience.
>Never had any actual chinese import
>want to get into it somewhat
Simplest setup imo for Chinese pu'er/heicha is to get a few decent factory cakes or bricks from well-known producers and a cheap porcelain gaiwan if you don't already have one. I haven't purchased from them, but I've seen anons here repping QuicheTeas, and the prices seem competitive. If you want to buy from them, grab some decently aged Xiaguan and/or Dayi stuff from them, and you'll have a good time.
>and also Japanese Matcha
It's up to you, but you might consider branching out to maccha when you've gotten comfortable with the other category first. Or you can just dive in, you do you. I just personally think it's more chill and valuable to spend time getting accustomed to each type of tea at your own pace rather than trying a bunch of stuff aimlessly at once. I think it helps you develop more awareness and appreciation for each type you come across.

>>21749796
>that black tea was so good I might just have to place a fat order now
Which one?
Anything else impressed you? I'm this anon>>21748520
>>21748553
I wonder how the situation is in china, if the prices will remain low/get even lower.
I'm still not getting big tree version of these cakes anytime soon.
>>21749429
Made me giggle as well.

>>21748055
>which means they are still too expensive.
The w2t shills recoil in pain at the superior gook.

>>21749977
>want to get into it somewhat, and also Japanese Matcha but the ritual and prep and proper brewing processes intimidate and terrify me
many even fancy teas are very flexible when it comes to brewing and brew up well just with a cup and hot water. it's called grandpa style brewing
works great for taiwanese oolong, chinese green tea, ripe pu-erh and many others

>>21750020
I want some nice black teas. I have not. I didn't think Mariage Frere's was known for having good green teas. Particularly, I am looking for some recommendations of what would be considered their other "hallmark" teas.

>>21748055
Honestly, I always compare prices with regards to soda cans as that used to be my drink of choice.

Which is why I don't even scoff at prices until 0,40 USD/gram. Yeah, soda is expensive, and tea is dirt cheap.

>>21749977
Unironically w2t's club is probably a good place to start for the world of boutique chinese teas. If they're following their usual schedule within the next few months you'll probably get a pick and a full cake of ripe, some raw samples, some oolong and blacks, some fresh greens, and then another full cake of green hype towards the summer. You can check out oolong owls old posts to see what they usually drop.
https://oolongowl.com/category/tea-reviews/white-2-tea/

>>21749977
https://farmerleaf.com/products/sample-pack

Lots a good tea at reasonable price. Gotta have gaiwan tho, you can get the cheapest on ali, doesn't matter.

>>21748920
The first flushes are typically low oxydation, crazy aromatic, with a green pit fruit flavor, like unripe peaches or almonds if you ever had those, or preshly picked olives. The Second flushes typically have the renowned "muscatel" flavor and are darker and maltier, but still juicy.

>>21748929
You can brew Darjeeling gongfu style with no issue. That's the way I drink them.

>>21748970
You might enjoy a nice Second Flush :D

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