What budget whiskies do you enjoy, if any?What do you consider to be the best whisk(e)y from a price/performance ratio standpoint?If you could choose to obtain one bottle of whisk(e)y for free, any bottle at any price, and you weren't allowed to resell it, what whisk(e)y would it be?
>>21741343>best whisk(e)y from a price/performance ratio standpointKilchoman
>>21741407...until they become Springbank 2.0.
>What do you consider to be the best whisk(e)y from a price/performance ratio standpoint?Nothing, at this point all single malts are overpriced.>If you could choose to obtain one bottle of whisk(e)y for free, any bottle at any price, and you weren't allowed to resell it, what whisk(e)y would it be?Something distilled the year i was born.
>>21741343 Nothing is worth the price it’s all overpriced also whiskey sucks They conditioned you retards to accept theft of buying power on a mass scale
I’m looking to buy a nice bottle to bring with me for thanksgiving. I’m thinking about bookers I can get it for 80 dollars is it worth it or is there something else I should get.
>>21741782Knob Creek 12 year
>>21741782Macallan 12 or Hibiki if you want something that looks as nice as it tastes. Otherwise if you want something cheaper try Chita or Glendronach 12.
>>21741926Are you retarded or just looking for (you)s?Why the fuck would you recommend the most overpriced 12-year scotch, and incredibly overpriced mediocre Japanese whiskey?
>>21741412Please fucking god NO
>>21741926wtf is with these recs? do euros/brits even celebrate thanksgiving?
>What budget whiskies do you enjoy, if any?several, and always neat. when i make cocktails, i only use the good stuff>What do you consider to be the best whisk(e)y from a price/performance ratio standpoint?i said it once and i shan't say it anymore because i'd like to keep buying it at that price
>>21741841seconding this or some Rare Breed
>>21741782Bookers is good at that price. Your hosts will be impressed with the box it comes in.
>>21741654>construct, purchase, or lease building>purchase stills>pay electric bill and salaries>acquire a gorillion barrels and warehouse>set up distribution or contract with trucking company>taxes and licenses>tug of war between wanting profit and what consumers will payman i can’t believe these companies ask for money for providing a service when I could just buy distilling equipment and wait a few years or just pay $20 to get it now
>>21741926>that looks as nice>>21742327>impressed with the boxis this thread full of actual boomers? get something 80 proof with e150a now THAT'S smooth
>>21741782Bookers is solid, another option would be Blantons.Normies might recognize it from john wick.
>>21742343>is this thread full of actual boomers>>21742344>BlantonsYes it is
>>21742335They have a huge over supply and they way over charge you retards that are basically drinking 51% corn syrup Whiskey is mid grade at best
>>21742431>once again failing to understand overhead costs and focusing on raw ingredientswhy don’t croissants cost $0.12 it’s just flourI mean obviously there is price gouging like buffalo trace which is rightly ridiculed but at the end of the day commodities cost what they cost grow upcomputers are just plastic gold is just rocks. don’t ever look into the stock market please
Picked up a bottle of Aberfeldy 12 year while going through duty free, will it be good?
What’s the deal with Bowmore they seem to do the same thing as lagavulin and were supposedly super popular back in the day but I hardly ever see people talking about them on the world wide web
>>21742793>they seem to do the same thing as lagavulinBe crap?
>>21742883There's our special boy.
>>21741343 Is Elijah Craig budget?
>>21743123It’s crap
I'm coming around to peated scotch. I'm liking that burnt ashy firewood on the Ardbeg.
>>21742793Bowmore 15 is good(sometimes), but nobody takes them seriously because of hilarious amounts of e150a>lagavulinDiagio ruined them years ago
>>21741343$27
New lottery has been announced.Here is the bottle list, loterry signups open in a few days.
>>21743901Some good bottles there at reasonable prices.I'd probably go for the Elijah Craig 18, Heaven hill 19, Gorege T Stagg, William L weller, and Thomas H Handy.Is it a ranked choice lottery or some other rules?
EC 18 gets a lot of bad reviews I would avoid it.
>>21743921I've personally had it before which is why i'd take it again.It would 100% be sitting on a shelf for years though, not something i'd pull out regularly.
Is modern Highland Park 12 as boring as people say? Huge discounts currently, pondering buying a bottle.
I don't know what else to say, it tastes rancid like something is wrong with it. I've tasted probably 500+ bourbons and have never poured one out.
>I've tasted 500+ bourbons but I'm going to act like this is my first time having E.H. Taylor and I'm not clearly posting the label in an action shot of it being poured down the drain to elicit a reaction
>>21744101Right? Who the fuck has had 500+ bourbons but has never had E.H. Taylor.
>>21743894I did not care for it even at its price but glad there’s at least something in that bracket lol>>21743901>never heard of starr hill what is it>mashbill either 78/22 wheat/barley>oh that’s kinda neat>check price>$92lol fuck off
>>21744158Most places are charging more.> Star Hill Farm American Wheat Whisky (SHF) is a project that was put into barrels beginning in 2016. The first non-bourbon since the 1953 inception of Maker’s Mark (MM) distillery, is actually two wheat whisky mashbills, one of 70% wheat, 30% malted barley, and the other 100% malted wheat. Matured separately and blended, the derived mashbill displayed on the front label of each vintage will vary by the ratio of the mashbills in the blend.
>>21743901>Heaven Hill 19 year>$259damn, that's a good price, most places they're $300+.
>>21744170It’s one of the cheaper ones on anon’s pic at least but why must us pvre wheat enjoyers svffer. I get why wheated bourbon isn’t like (I prefer rye in it) but pure wheat is so rare. Only had one from a local distillery (good), one from old elk (good but they want $70+), dry fly washington (rubbing alcohol) and I think maybe one other. As I wrote this post I saw middle west makes one maybe I’ll snag it when I’m traveling to less raped states over the holidays
>>21743912Yeah I'd let the boomers/taters go for the Pappy and get me a WLW
>>21743912>Is it a ranked choice lottery or some other rules?Ranked choice, if your number gets picked in the lottery you get your highest-ranked bottle that is remaining.
Is this thread the only place you have to tell people about your lottery options? I'm having a hard time understanding why anyone else would care.
>>21744205Here is another straight wheat whiskey. Didn't realize it wasn't a bourbon until I got home. It cost me $49 but it's very sweet when drinking it neat. Probably would make a great old fashioned if you are a fan of the sweet versions like a brandy old fashioned.
>>21744018Fucking based
THE PRICE!!! WHAT I PAID!!! MONEY MONEY!!!! LOOK AT WHAT IT USED TO BE!!!! HEY HERE’S HOW MUCH I PAID!!!!Imagine going to a jazz music thread where all anyone talked about was how much they paid for an mp3, or a comedy film thread where all they talked about was how much their local theater was charging for tickets.Jesus fucking Christ.
>>21745012Green River full proof is under $50 in most markets and its as sure as delicious as any of those allocated bottles, it will also get you drunk
>>21745012Value is a big thing in whiskey dumb dumb. It’s not a one time purchase when you drink the bottle you buy another so how much you pay for it is important because a whiskey can be good but if you pay too much it’s not worth it.
>>21745046Value is a big thing in watching movies dumb dumb. It’s not a one time purchase when you watch a movie in the theater you buy another ticket so how much you pay for it is important because a movie can be good but if you pay too much it’s not worth it
>>21745046Value is a big thing in music dumb dumb. It’s not a one time purchase when you go to a show you buy another entrance ticket so how much you pay for it is important because music can be good but if you pay too much it’s not worth it.
>>21745046>how much you pay for it is importantThis affects the inherent qualities of the liquid…how? You’re saying the liquid would objectively, literally morph into a more delicious beverage if it was free? Because if someone gave me Talisker for free I would pour it into the toilet and flush without giving it a second thought.
>>21745343Sounds like a shill trying to sell overpriced slop that the market has an abundance of right now. Sorry moishe I’m not buying your bags, lower the price you neurotic carpet bagger
>>21745343Yes. The more I drink whiskey the more I end up buying wild turkey 101.
What does /wg/ think about Indian whisky?https://www.tastingtable.com/1462097/indian-whisky-brands-ranked/
>>21745921Idk some people shill it, I haven’t tried it, just seems like a bad idea desu I prefer to drink from distilleries that have stood the test of time. The up and comers are often private equity trying to rip off noobs with overpriced bullshit and don’t know or care for integrity.
The integrity being drained by kikes in order to practice usury and price manipulation is what’s killing the whiskey industry the fastest Makes the industry seem dishonest and disrespectful and makes people want nothing to do with it.
>>21745921Never tried it but im rooting / Amrut’ing for Indian whisky because I read once they have massive tariffs on scotch and if they ever lifted em the price on everything would shoot thru the roof
I'm still deciding whether to go to the local liquor store Black Friday event. They hoard most of the allocated bottles all year to release on this day and boomers camp out in the parking lot all week. Pic related is what they will have. But I don't know how long the line gets and I'm not waiting in line for hours.
>>21746696There will be people out there right now waiting in line.If not, then i give it until ~7-8pm and there will be at least a few people waiting overnight in line.
>>21746712As I said there's been people in tents in the parking lot all week. I may try going shortly before they open but if the line is a hundred deep at that point I don't think I'll bother
>>21746749With a list like that, I'd assume there will be no reason to bother, you wont get shit without waiting in line for at least an hour or two, and even then you'd just be getting the scraps of what's leftI prefer lottery systems personally, at least I get fucked by RNG with no need to wait around in a cuck line.
>>21744509Zamn I can’t find the mashbill for that thing anywhere. I remember the other wheat whiskey I tried (no-name distillery, wasn’t straight so likely had caramel coloring and was slop but they boasted 100% wheat). And Bernheim is only 51%. So yeah from the two good ones I tried I know the grain has potential (maybe not as much as the others). I also enjoyed it in a manhattan cocktail.
>>21745333>Value is a big thing in watching movies dumb dumb. It’s not a one time purchaseYes it is>a movie can be good but if you pay too much it’s not worth itYes, everyone complains about movie theater prices and theaters are dying. Also the real cost of a movie is my 2 hrs if it’s shit
>>21745336You attend the same concert multiple times too? Damn I wish I had your time travel abilities
>>21746749>people in tents in the parking lot all weekgenuinely pathetic. especially because it boils down to boomer brand loyalty “I GOTTA GET THA PAPPY!!!”You don’t see wine snobs doing this shit they just pay $10000000 at some snooty auction and get on with their lives holy shit
Look what they took away from us
>>21747220I can almost guarantee it was shit whiskey
>>21746961The difference is with many bottles of whiskey you can pay 100%+ msrp depending on where you live and what liquor store you went to. There aren’t many other situations where price can vary so much.
>>21741343Where exactly does OGD114 rate is it good or just good for the price
>>21747394Best whiskey under $30.Would rather have Woodford Reserve Double Oaked if spending a bit more, though.
>>21747415It’s good but not better than wt101
>>21747417I prefer it to WT101 but I prefer higher-rye bourbons in general and rye to bourbon in general.
>>21747313You forget how shrinkflated and price gouged our economy is. People used to offer quality at a good price. That’s what makes this bourbon boom so faggoty and kooky it’s shocking the death of integrity in this country
>>21747437You're delusional if you think some random whiskey dispensing machine was stocked with good shit.
>>21747422That’s fair whiskey comes down to preference of the drinker to some extent. I think ogd 114 and wt101 are both better than many whiskeys under 60 dollars.
>>21747437Vintage spirits were largely shit at the lower end. (just like modern spirits).Standards were lax and oversight was rare (though at least somewhat present).
I have been ordering this scotch in a rusty nail cocktail
I would like to try classic tiki drinks
>>21741343With a very small handful of exceptions, restaurant drinks are a ripoff. Why get a $15 drink at a restaurant when $20 at the grocery store can make you five non-watered down versions of those drinks?The only time that it's worthwhile is when they're using like three different kinds of alcohol and you'd have to spend $100 to make it at home.
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>>21746696the only bourbon I'd consider getting in line for is King of Kentucky and that's only if I was early enough that I'd have a chance at it because the boomers passed it over for Pappy or other BTAC stuff
>>21747367indeed>>21746439>Makes the industry seem dishonest and disrespectfulIt isAlthough a lot of blame can also be placed on liquor store owners and retarded hypebeast consumers
>>21747394Both. I genuinely like it in its own right but it is a little rough and kinda lower end but it’s got its characteristic sovl
>>21741343>What budget whiskies do you enjoy, if any?I don't drink any whiskey, I'm a teetotaler. But I think tincture on oak wood is great. The official science says that it is useful, it gives antioxidants that slow down the aging process. And the science of witchy potions says that the oak is a symbol of strength, wisdom, health and longevity. And of course it's much better without harmful ethanol. I'm going to make non-alcoholic potions based on oak.
thinking of buyin an Edradour bottle of 12yo olorosso sherry buttsis this a goodone is there hope for me or will i ngmi ?
>>21748841yep sounds kinotheir 10 is also sherry casked (of which they make a chill filtered and non chill filtered version). Can’t go wrong with edradour other than liquor store markups. Their MSRP is ~50 bri’ish pounds and it’s usually ~$70 in the you ese- which, like for most good scotch, I will still begrudgingly pay
>>21748514Your only choice is oak water. Otherwise every other organic solvent is non-potable (isopropyl, acetone, toluene, etc) and water wouldn’t pull nearly the same flavor profile at all. Just drink the booze bro you’ll live
>>21748514Brother they call it “spirit” for a reason, the spirit of the wood is in the alcohol itself if you dilute or evaporate the alcohol the wood proteins or whatever is in it will come out of solution and loose its molecular structure. We should be measuring alcohol by the teaspoon or two for medicinal purposes.God speed
>>21749322ok balls to the walls i'll try it
Why isn’t there a rare breed single barrel? Kentucky spirit is only 101 proof and the Russell’s reserve stuff isn’t as good as wild turkey it’s too bland.
>>21750766Not barrel strength like Rare Breed but you can get 101 single barrel distiller's select at the distillery. I have a bottle from the last time I was there but I haven't opened it yet
Whisky fucking sucks, your taste buds aren't mature, they are fucked and aged like your vision
I stumbled upon a Elijah Craig Barrel Proof B525 yesterday and bought it. It's pretty good. It's the first bottle of ECBP I've tried and if any future releases are as good or better than this then I'll be very excited.
>>21751151They're usually decent to excellent. The problem is after you get an excellent one the next time you get a decent one you feel let down
>>21751251I tried standard elijah craig the other day and wasn't impressed
>>21751407I'm not talking about standard Elijah, I'm talking about the private barrels and the batch proofs.There are 3 batches per year, A, B, and C.You got the 2nd batch for 2025 (B525).
>>21750824I want to know how that is sounds nice
>>21751413That’s the only batch worth anything this year the other two batches will be on clearance in the next few months Jews learning the hard way they are jewing too hard
>>21751464I haven't had the chance to try C925, but B525 was nice when I had a bottle 4 or 5 months ago. I also had B524 and C924 last year and both were solid, not amazing, but still good.You can't expect them to release the best batches EVERY batch.
>>21751504How does b524 and c924 compare to b525?I liked those two last year but I have 3/4 of a bottle of each leftover so I am holding back on buying b525
>>21751621Hard to say since I don't keep bottles around to compare directly so i can only go off memory and having never compared them directly to each other.Personally for me B524 was alright but kinda meh, C924 was good, and B525 was similarly good if not a little better even.
Evan Williams is awful. Whoever reccomends that nonsense should have their head examined
>>21751836I mean, it could be worse, it could be Johnnie Walker.
>>21751841>>21751836I like both of these Evan bib and walker black anyways, red is pretty bad and Evan standard is meh but not bad. My first whiskey that I drank regularly was Evan bib (white label we called it)
>>21751643B524 was my favorite the c924 was a close second those two bottles are quite similar. The 524 is super spicy and the 924 a touch darker and sweeter
Got a bottle of Chivas last night enjoyed it
>>21743901Lottery enteredFeel free to judge my choices
>>21753532I don’t give a fucking shit about the whiskey, its flavors, how best to enjoy it- all I care about is the PRICE and the VALUE!!!!PRICE AND VALUE GENERAL FOR THE DISCUSSION OF PRICE AND VALUE!!!!!!!!!!!
>>21753532>Pappy at the bottomDo you even imbibe?
They were selling Jack daniels barrels at the Home Depot I humped one all the way across the store to the register only to find out that $40 price tag was incorrect and it was really $175 I said F that but they were pretty cool
>>21753532You should get off social media before you go full tater>>21753568This but unironically.
>>21753606I've had pappy before from a lottery 4 or 5 years ago. I'd happily grab another, but I like trying new shit more. >>21753614Fuck off faggot, i'm not a tater because I drink every bottle I buy.
>>21752434>Chivas>enjoyedwew>>21753532>trace-slop>>21753568>bix nood muhfugga i dunneven look at da price tag nigguuhhh i jus swipe i be ballin n sheit
I'm really enjoying Four Roses OBSF single barrel. Best one so far.
>>21753618>Buying overpriced buffalo disgrace swill>Not a tater
>>21754824Anon, its overpriced on the 2ndary market, not many people would call it overpriced at MSRP.WLW sells for $800-1200 bottle, I have zero interest in selling it, but I'll happily buy it to try at $200.I agree paying 2ndary tater pricing is dumb, but you're just retarded if you think paying MSRP with no intention of flipping it is "tater".
>>21754826If it tastes worse and costs more at msrp than wt101 I would consider it to be overpriced tater.
>>21754828You've never had it, so how would you knowOh wait now I see it, you're a poor fag retard who insists ANYTHING that expensive is bad.
>>21754842>It can’t be overpriced if it’s msrp!You fell for the marketing hook line and sinker
>>21754850I mean, you're just not using the term "tater" correctly. A tater is collecting bottles for their rarity to either resell later, or keep in a collection just because it's rare. A tater will have MULTIPLE unopened bottles of the same rare whisky.A tater has a shelf of unopened rare bottles.I don't have any unopened rare bottles.You're not a tater because you bought a rare bottle and want to drink it.
>>21754874Fuck I’m a small time tater>there might be taters in this thread he thought taking a long drag on his cigarette the cool breeze whipping at his face
>>21755114I've personally got nothing against someone having a small personal collection of rare bottles, but if you're buying them JUST because they're rare with no interest in drinking them, then I think it's kinda retarded.I just find it annoying when retards in here use "tater" to mean anyone who buys expensive whiskey, when price has NOTHING to do with the term.
>>21754826>not many people would call it overpriced at MSRPi would>>21754842>you're a poor fag retardposted from your Supreme hoodie>>21755292>to mean anyone who buys expensive whiskeynot expensive whiskey, overpriced whiskey. which yes there is a lot of overlap and especially so with memealo (((trace)))
>>21755292also it’s because of the hype surrounding the buffalo trace not the price. agreed people who buy whiskies and dont even open them are on the same level as funko pop collectors
>>21755341>overpriced whiskeySure, but that's entirely subjective, and OBJECTIVELY, paying $200 for a bottle that sells for $800+ isn't a bad deal. If you've never had that whiskey before, why not? You'll never know if it's overpriced unless you ACTUALLY buy it and try.
>>21755360>You'll never know if it's overpriced unless you ACTUALLY buy it and tryI know it’s overpriced because it’s buffalo trace and I can be quite confident in that assessment from trying their other productsFuck those niggers but I unironically hope you enjoy your bottle
>>21755373I personally would've called Willet purple tops overpriced until I actually managed to buy one at MSRP and try it.Then, when I had the chance to buy another Willett purple top at MSRP, even though it was almost $400 I didn't really hesitate, and it's a fantastic, unique bourbon. $200 to try something new and rare is perfectly fine in my eyes, I don't really care who makes it. Besides, i'm a fan of other BT products. (Blantons, EH Taylor, Eagle Rare)
>>21755378Idk, I’d still call it overpriced lol. I’m more of a scotch guy but all these $200+ bottles of either category are deliberate price gouges imo. I get that there’s le angel’s share from aging and the liquidity (heh) cost of keeping the product tied up longer and the scarcity etc but it follows such a nonlinear jump in price that just doesn’t correlate to those costs and is basically just greed on behalf of the distiller. And I get it, they’re a business, and I understand diminishing returns where a wine that’s twice as expensive isn’t twice as good- you’re paying for the extra on the margins. But still, I kind of give the stink-eye to those prices which I feel are even less justified than say most wine prices.>i'm a fan of other BT productsfair enough I aint. I mean they’re fine but eh. So yeah hopefully you enjoy the bottle
PRICEVALUEPRICEEEEEEEEVALUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBoy I love talking about whiskey!
>>21755499I know you’re on this vendetta but in an industry with this much rampant price inflation it’s going to get talked about. You’re free to leave and go talk about cars (no one will ever mention a price) or guns (ditto)Sorry you like to flex about how money doesn’t matter to you because you’re so nigger rich, or are autistically fixated on only talking about whiskey’s taste. In which case here’s some tasting notes>baking spices and vanilla, some corn sweetnessnext thing I’ll mention is if it was worth the price :^)
>>21755499to clarify: what are we even supposed to talk about? mashbills? it's a one sentence piece of trivia. unless there is something truly unique about the production process (oh they aged in a SHERRY CASK WOWEE) it all boils down to how it tastes. And taste is near impossible to describe via text- it needs to be experienced. Therefore, the best and most fruitful thing we can do in this thread is provide recommendations. You know, on which bottles to PURCHASE with money. I understand the "soullessness" of just talking about shekels but again the actual discussion of the sensory aspect of the whiskey is kind of limited outside of "funk" and "spice". Money is just a real aspect of life man if someone buys something and it doesn't taste that good they will be disappointed. We don't live in this platonic realm of forms where the unshackled tastes of whiskies exists independently from their cost. Very very few people are ACTUALLY decoupled from the existence of money, and you're probably better off going to a private island to talk to them instead of an autistic anime website subforum.
One more thought on this.A lot of people have never dined at a 3 star restaurant. What's stopping them is cost. But even if you can't afford to eat at those restaurants regularly it's still in your interest to try it at least ONCE. Yeah it might hurt the wallet but you won't die you can do it once just to try it. It'd be silly to sit there and bicker "I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY'RE CHARGING ME X FOR THIS MORSEL OF A FILET WHEN I BET THEY BUY IT FOR $Y/LB." But the thing is, there aren't that many whiskes you just HAVE TO TRY. They're a dime a dozen and frankly in a lot of cases you can get the same experience out of uh, cheaper bottles. And not to mention michelin star restaurants really do cost a lot to run whereas charging hundreds of dollars for the same whiskey you charge $30 for except aged in a barrel an extra two years is a fucking joke
If you don't drink cask strength bourbon neat then you are a sissy faggot and should make your way to the wine general where you belong.
>>21755636Is there any point to buying whiskey that isn't barrel strength?
>>21755777A lot of older whiskey gets released at 80 proof or 100 proof.
>>2175579080 proof is an insult to whiskey. I refuse to drink it even for free. 100 proof is the baseline for something worth drinking.
>>21755777>Is there any point to buying whiskey that isn't barrel strength?To trade it for something that is barrel strength
>>21753532Word to the wise, birthday bourbon is super overrated even at msrp (thin, bland, and almost always under 100 proof)
>>21755855I'm aware, i just want to say i've tried it so I have some backing when I make similar claims to other people in the future.It holds less weight hearing it from someone who has never had it before.
I wish everyone on here complaining about prices over srp would practice the motto "if the owner is brown, turn around". Fuck the Patel cartel jacking up the prices of allocated bottles. Let the bottles sit and rot.
>>21755858Heard that, good luck with the lotto!
Supposedly there's a Willett 4-year bourbon "purple top" that's starting to come out as a shelfer like the 4-year rye, has anyone seen any yet?
>>21755963I haven't seen it, but it was supposedly going to be hitting distributors in late November, so it should only be hitting shelves this week.
>>21755292I will drink every last one of these it’s just going to take me a year or two also I don’t have anything considered ultra rare like a pappy or something just some drinkable nice bottles.
>>21755636I sure do love not tasting what i'm actually drinking.Oh, wait, you said bourbon. Then it is for the better not to taste it and just get the alcohol bite.
>>21757358You’re right I prefer the watery flavor and mouthfeel of 80 proof “whiskey”.
>>21757390While lower proof is GENERALLY more watery feeling in the mouth, that's not actually a hard and fast rule to live by. There are 80 proof whiskeys with less watery mouthfeel than 100 proof whiskeys.In GENERAL the lower proof the more watery, but it's not a rule that's always true.
Gone thru a lot of whisky over the years but I just now had my very first cork break off on opening … a Ballechin (Edradour) bottled 5 years ago … didn’t so much as break as was halfway disintegrated and crumbling away (been stored upright the whole time) … anyway I will report back tomorrow to say what kind of luck this sort of thing brings me
>Nova Scotia selling their stock of American whiskeyNice early Christmas present
>>21741343What did you guys think of heaven's door whisky? Is it top notch?
>>21757924Lmao imagine being a cuck from north of the border. Stuck drinking shitty canadian whiskey for the rest of your life because the orange man gave you a wedgie.
>>21743123>>21743175it's 9-12 year bourbon under $30. it's better than blanton's and anything by beam except KC18, KC21, and OGD16
>>21758227>94 proof
>>21755963absolutely hilarious. that thing and the 4yr green top can sit on shelves together for $80 each and be the dynamic duo of ultimate retardation
>>21758247The 4 year rye is actually great though, one of the ryes with a distinct character that is readily available. I buy 2-3 bottles per year. Fantastic in a Manhattan.
>>21758255>>21758247Your post made me check my local, and it's on sale so i'll probably go pick one up later this week.
>>21758245one more than blanton's and six less than 12. what's your pointoh and just so you know, sazerac is also kiked (goldring family), suntory holdings is publicly traded (by kikes), and campari group is also publicly traded (by kikes). bourbon is ultimately a vice and they trade in vices, so you can't really pin it on one distillery
>>21758258you may just like younger rye. old pepper does one i think is actually better for like $50
>>21754828your dogshit boomer hot takes are the equivalent of tripfagging and no one likes you or your delusional boomerisms in this general. go away
>>21758227>it's better than blanton's and anything by beam except KansasCity18, KansasCity21, and EsophagoHastroDuodenoscopy12.Bot post.
>>21755777For people who don't enjoy grain flavored gasoline.>just nuke your tastebuds until you get used to using your numbed senses to discern between different gasolinesNo, i enjoy not being a tastelet. Anything over 100 proof is for circle jerking faggots who care more about collecting expensive labels than taste.
>>21758411retard
>>21758419You need to take smaller sips. Period.>but I already take small sips.No. Really. Smaller.
>>21758547>boil the frog slowerNo thanks.
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IT BURNS TOO MUCH AND IT NUMBS MY TONGUE>take smaller sips and that won't happen bro>NO I'D RATHER BITCH AND MOAN AND COMPLAIN
>>21755636Anything to avoid actually discussing the flavor, huh
>>21757977Sucks worse because he's in one of the provinces without private stores. If there's a product they don't like, the stores can just be raided at the drop of a hat
>>21758255Agreed, I was skeptical because of how young it is but I think it's excellent. Almost finished with my first bottle, but I think I'll either crack open the Whiskey Thief rye I have or try and find a Saggamore
>>21758380Campari is Italian and the nips are based. Don’t try to cope that you drink jew juice.
>>21757410>There are 80 proof whiskeys with less watery mouthfeel than 100 proof whiskeysCan you provide an example? I understand whiskies being "smooth for their proof" but I can't think of a single case where an 80 proof has ever been rougher than 100>>21757724F
How are they willet green tops? Are they worth the price increase over high west double rye?
>>21758852nationalities don't own publicly traded companies dumbfuck it's all the same soulless kikeslop at the ownership level
>>21760514/pol/ really did a number on you.
Had a sore throat for a day and a half and OGD 114 was my best friend. Tiny lil sip numbs it for a good 20 minutes. Just taking lil sips through the whole day.Gone now. Thanks OGD 114. You mah bro.
80 proof? must be a mixer
Anything better after a fine meal than a piece of dark chocolate and scotch? Jesus FUCKING Christ…
Picked up a bottle of Octomore 15.1 in mexico for like $160 USD. Did I do good?
>>21763729Solid price, they're usually $200-220.
Bushmills single malts are better than any of the slop made in Scotland.
>>21763852>80 proof>e150aDUDE IM LIKE LE FUCKIN LE IRISHkys
>>21763873They only use that into their blended whiskeys not in their premium single malts. Sounds like cope to me.
>>21744149I’ve probably had 200 bourbons and had EH Taylor for the first time last week
>>21745921I actually think it’s pretty solid. There’s a good sir who does a lot of store picks in my region and he has good taste
>>21763896Now imagine having had 1.5x more bourbon and STILL not having tried E.H Taylor.
>>21763729This is my favorite bottle of all time mine was I think $180
>>21741343>What budget whiskies do you enjoy, if any?Jim Beam>What do you consider to be the best whisk(e)y from a price/performance ratio standpoint?Macallan 12>If you could choose to obtain one bottle of whisk(e)y for free, any bottle at any price, and you weren't allowed to resell it, what whisk(e)y would it be?Its not whiskey but potin
>>21763933Now this is shitposting.
Picked up old overholt 12 cask strength
>>21763893>I’M the one that’s copingholy fucking kek
>>21764159>>21764144The fact you spent more than 5 minutes searching up random shit that you could reply with to "prove" this anon is wrong kinda shows you are the one coping my guy.
>>21764169MMMMMMMM
>>21764169>a single google search>waiting for post timers>stating something obvious is coping nowirish whiskies without e150a are rarer than leprechauns
>>21764205>waiting for post timersYou waited 5x the length of the post timer my guy.You're very obviously coping hard as fuck at this point and i'm not even the guy who likes bushmills.
>>21764213>if i say cope i wincope retard
>>21763948I tried it at a Beam tasting, it's good shit but I don't know I'd spend that much on it
Visiting Kentucky this week.Bottles I passed up so far:Old Fitz 9 year for $157 at heaven hill. Got the 7 year decanter for $50ish.Passed on Knob Creek 21 for $250. Got the Jim Beam Lineage instead.I couldn't do the Blantons Gold store pick for $200, not really a blantons fan. Probably will pick up the KC21 before I leave. I tried a tasting and it was delicious. Will post a bottle line up when I get home. Nothing too rare. There is plenty of Star Hill Farms at Makers Mark if anyone is looking for it.
all i buy is budget bourbonmight hit the old forester 100 tonight (delicious)
>>21741343>you could choose to obtain one bottle of whisk(e)y for free, any bottle at any priceMine
>>21764422>Old Fitz 9 year for $157 at heaven hill. Got the 7 year decanter for $50ish.Based>Passed on Knob Creek 21 for $250. If have been kinda tempted since I was a grandad 16 fan but ultimately based>not really a blantons fan.Based it's 7 years and worse than Elijah Craig barrel proof>>21764486Good choice
too drunk to words but good
>>21764862My buddy bought this and says it’s too hot. Is he a pussy? It seems like a lot of people like it.
>>21764975It is hot but its great, mine tastes like....grilled brown sugar? Its hard to describe atm I'm going for a 4th glass
>>21763852Watery flavourless tripe
>>21764205Wait is your argument >Hurr durr bad cus dyes?
>>21741343>What budget whiskies do you enjoy, if any?OGD 114, Evan Williams BiB, WT 101, Benchmark Full Proof>What do you consider to be the best whisk(e)y from a price/performance ratio standpoint?Knob Creek 12-year>If you could choose to obtain one bottle of whisk(e)y for free, any bottle at any price, and you weren't allowed to resell it, what whisk(e)y would it be?Either William Larue Weller, Russel's 15, or Michter's 10-year rye
>>21765066I had the choice between kc 12 and a kc9 store pick and I bought the store pick. It’s worse then regular kc9 despite the extra proof and now I can’t find kc12. I dun fucked up.
>>21765097Store picks are always hit or miss, the distillers know some store owners don't know shit about fuck, and purposefully give them bad barrels cause they won't know any better.
Today I took a risk and bought pic related, I hope it's good. Also I finally saw JD Heritage toasted but the kikes wanted $100. They also had the willet 4 year bourbon but I passed on it too.>>21764862I got a delicious store pick jdsbbp and a backup, and am considering getting another backup. It's so good.>>21764975Yeah if you don't regularly drink barrel strength whiskey neat then you are a pussy. It's not really a matter of machismo but that high proof whiskeys are the most flavorful if you can tolerate the heat.
>>21765669Also RY3 is owned by a jeet. I didn't know until after buying this bottle. Maybe I can ignore that if it turns out to be good.
>>21765669I just bought a heritage bottle today for 70. Excited to try it.
I saw the heritage JD at a store for like $55 a month or so ago and I'm still kicking myself for not grabbing one
>>21765669Fuck it I decided to go back and get the willet after seeing a good review. Drinking a glass now and it's pretty good for $60. I don't have a refined palate to pick out all the flavors but I can tell you all that it's pretty good. It's definitely got some nice rye flavors, a bit similar to new riff single barrel.
>>21765052>>21764201
>>21765809wait, was it the bourbon (purple top/foil) or rye (green)?
>>21765969The bourbon, purple top, 126.4 proof and aged 4 yearsSo far I don't think I love it but it's not bad. It's not very hot for being 126 proof but has a thin finish imo.
>>21765994It just released a few days ago, I haven't seen it yet
>>21765809>>21765994I'll have to pick one up to try
The heritage barrel is legit. Worth 70.
>>21742765heard the basic 12 is fairly decent. I wanted to try the 15 that had been in a Napa Cab barrel, but I think it's all gone around me.
>>21743947Edrington is not putting their best foot forward these days. They're on their way to be the new Whyte and Mackay.
>>21755880I doubt the legitimacy of allocated bottles in those stores all together.
>>21768265While I'm sure counterfeiting exists, I doubt it's that common. It's most likely to be more prevalent in the second hand market.
I bought knob creek 21 for 225 yesterday. Gonna open it on new years like a chad.
>>21768823Let us know how it is. I have the 18 and it's right on the edge of being too tannic/oaky for me but I've heard that the 21 is actually a little less harsh and fruitier
>>21768846I really like oak so I don’t think it’s possible to be too oaky for me but I’ll report back on January 1st.
Verdict on Four Roses Small Batch?
>>21769575I had it last year at friendsgiving, fresh crack and I wasnt impressed. I quite like the standard Yellow label and it's good enough to tipple from the bottle. imo probably the best value for low/mid shelf bourbon even at minimum proof. it would be a great desk bottle.
I just finally finished my bottle of Redbreast 12 CS and desu I didn't enjoy it at all. Though I previously had a bottle of regular proof RB12 and loved it. Maybe I somehow got a bad bottle or maybe I just don't like barley at higher proofs, this one tasted very astringent to me.
I hate how overpriced decent alcohol is. And how inflated the market is. Things need to calm down
I know everyone hates JW but this tastes good to me nice level of smoke and pete with out being to strong and very smooth goes down good with little to no burn.
>>21770698It's not that we hate JW. JW is fine for what it is. Cheap and consistent scotch for everyday drinking. The issue is that everything over Black label is waaaay overpriced for what you're getting and you can easily find better options for cheaper. Hell, Octomore costs the sames as Blue label.
>>21770720Green label is cheap, not sure what you're smoking.Find me any other 15 year age stated single malt blend for less than $70.
>>21770744Not less, but close to is is Glendronach 15 year
>>21770777$110 for me
>>21770784huh. I can get it for $85
>>21770793Guess it's regional, it's not carried at all by my county run stores, so I'd need to drive 45+ minutes just to buy it in the first place, and at $40 over green label it just ain't worth it for me.
>>21770795yeah, the one good thing about being in the Chicago area is that everything is here and we have Binnys and Garfields
>>21770698I prefer the unage-stated gold label over the 18 year (formerly platinum label).
>>21770802It’s all over priced and it’s all shit. I wish we could stop buying for a while and deflate their gay little over inflated fake market
>>21770874Good luck with that
>>21770891You do know the supply being small is fake right? They have more whiskey than they know what to do with Even a slight softness in demand will cause prices to drop. I will do my part to try and stop you fags from over spending on your sugar water.
>>21770798Binny's are pretty far apart and you have to be in Illinois...
>>21770899What are you even talking about?Whisky in general? Scotch specifically? JW scotch even more specifically?JW is so large they don't give a rats ass about year to year market changes, even if there is a 2-3 decades long sales slump, they'll be fine.
>>21770909JW is so huge they have more whiskey than they can sell. If demand drops they have no choice but to lower prices.
>>21770915they wont lower prices in the first world. they'll just open the flood gates on the third world.
>>21770905You're right about the Illinois thing, but I have 3 Binnys within 15 minutes of me.
>>21770925>>21770915Hell at a certain point it's cheaper for them to dump the whisky than it would be to lower the prices.
>>21770909>Expecting companies to not overreact and destroy their entire brand at even the slightest sign of decline.
>>21765700>Also RY3 is owned by a jeetUnironically I think they know whiskey.
J Henry and Sons is vastly overrated and too damn expensive.
Just bought a handle of cutty sark it’s better than I expected for the price
>>21771015What are some decent Indian whiskies
>>21771472After seeing all the videos of how food is made in India how could you possibly want to drink whiskey from there
1920 is clearly the top dog in the Old Forester kennel but who’s #2? 1910 or 1897??
>>21771558technically Indri is produced at the base of the Himalayas, but it's still subjected to the plight of its populace.
Getting near the bottom of two bottles I currently have been drinking for the past few months. Fuck, gotta go get atleast one more, probably two again.
How’s everyone’s infinity bottles going?How full do you get it before drinking from it?How low do you let it get before stopping and refilling?
>>21770698>pete>with out>to strong>smoothJW enjoyers, everyone.
>>21770744He said way overpriced, not expensive.Green Label is not expensive, yet it is still way overpriced.
>>21772018I stopped adding to mine and drank all of it when it became perfect and I feared that adding more to it would make it worse.It was incredible.I haven't started a new one since.
Bros, I've never had sherry so I don't even know how to identify if something is or isn't a sherry bomb. Is there a specific sherry that I should pick up so I can expand my palate?
>>21772253"Sherry bombs" don't actually taste like/of sherry. They're just non-charred oak bombs. The use of sherry in the barrels previously is not why they taste markedly different from ex-bourbon barrel Scotch. They taste markedly different because they are matured in non-charred oak.This is why the commonly passed around infographic in these threads labels Aberlour A'bunadh as "just oak my shit up senpai."You will get similar flavors out of any non-charred oak casks.
>>21772253Glendronach 12, Bunnahabhain 12, Edradour 10.
Scotch is so gay and cringe.
>>21772253I like the Dalmore Sherry
>>21772379>>21772617I think he's asking for actual sherry.
>>21772544Is that… ANOTHER column distilled corn liquor aged in the same barrel as every other? And it’s LIMITED RELEASE I GOTTA CAMP OUT OVERNIGHT AND PAY $400 OMG
>>21772288>This is why the commonly passed around infographic in these threads labels Aberlour A'bunadh as "just oak my shit up senpai."No, it's just because whoever made that inforgraphic is a moron.I have Aberlour A'bunadh in front of me right now, and it's 100% sherry forward, not oaky.
>>21773172Nope. It tastes like the oak from sherry casks. I'm right and you're wrong.
https://scotchwhisky.com/magazine/opinion-debate/the-debate/19020/do-a-cask-s-previous-contents-matter/>Do a cask’s previous contents matter?Here, two people give opposing opinions on the question.>NO… not really: Stuart MacPherson, Master of Wood, Edrington>‘”No” is probably too strong a word, because what was previously in a cask does have an influence on the whisky... Our belief is that it does have an impact on the development of the liquid and the flavour, but it’s not as much as people think.>‘I normally tell people that the contribution of the cask is really multi-layered. For me, there are three main drivers, starting with the geographic origin of the oak, down to the terroir it grew in – the soil, hillside and so on.>‘Then there’s the cask construction – its size, shape and the treatment of the wood, all of which can significantly influence the flavour of the whisky.>‘After that there is the previous use of the cask, and therefore how active it is.’So, he states that the three main factors, in order from most to least important, are the wood, the cask construction, and the previous use of the cask.If you read his entire explanation, you'll see he explains that the influence from the previous use of the cask comes entirely down to what the previous spirit extracted or didn't extract from the wood, and has jack shit to do with any flavor added to the cask from the spirit."And therefore how active it is" means it is how much flavor the previous spirit has extracted from the wood, and not any flavor added to the wood by that spirit, which affects the flavor of the whisky.The person giving the opposing opinion is a whisky and food writer, not someone who actually makes whisky for a living, and, more importantly, a woman. Opinion disregarded. In fact, a woman saying the previous spirit adds flavor only enhances the argument that it does not.
If the above were true there wouldn’t be perceptible differences between the various types of Sherry finishes themselves. A true whisky guy will be able to spot a PX vs a manzanilla vs an oloroso etc finish no problemo
>>21773257Placebo.
>>21773257the main differences are between Olorosso and PX maturations. Palo Cortado is relatively distinct as well.
>>21773422Placebo.
>>21753532> The winning numbers will be posted on the website at noon on Thursday, Dec. 11Sooon
>>21773434why are tastelets so smug about their disability?
>>21773458>drinks 80 proof toilet water >”Tastelet”
>>21773577is this 80 proof in the room with us right now?
Does anyone ever notice how scotch drinkers are the ipa soy boys of the whiskey world. Just replace peat with anything they say about hops and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
Would you quit shitting up this thread with your catty little quips already
I gotta get my heckin allocated bottlesI put my name in the lotto and camped out overnight and waited in line for hours for the new revolutionarily different super special corn water coming out that I can collect like funko popsmmmm it’s so sweeeet I love sweeeeet corn I’m also very tough mhm dont disrespect my dixie
>>21773623Why would you camp out if you entered a lottery?Are you dumb?
>>21773458it's the third time they've posted that dumbass wall of text this year. next they'll be dumping their wrong opinion about guaiacol. dont feed the troll.
>>21772618>>21773422>>21773257>PX vs a manzanilla vs an oloroso I was indeed asking for sherry recommendations. Is there a "typical" sherry that most whiskies are aged in? Or what sherry comes to mind when a whiskey is described as tasting like sherry?
>>21741343Just moved back to Aus from Ireland. Developed a great taste for Islay Scotch and Irish Whiskey.Got these for around €300 total (which is half the price in Aus). Lagavulin 16 is my absolute favourite but the Dunville's is bloody good too.For budget whiskey it's hard to go past Jameson black barrel.I've heard there are a lot of up and coming whiskeys here in Aus, but I'm yet to try them.
>>21773989Olorosso is the most typical with PX probably coming second. So those are the two I’d try if I were you (and definitely try a fino so you get a sense of what is going on underneath the sweetness). As far as brands go you can google around but if you’re in the US your selection is probably dogshit anyway so just get whatever few offerings your local stores have and just make sure it’s like $20+ and not some cooking wine sloppa. That said I’ve had Taylor’s which is very common and borderline cooking tier but it’s still good for drinking. Sandeman’s is another popular brand.One thing to note is almost all sherries are made from Palomino grape and the different labels (fino->amontillado->olorosso) refer to how long it is oxidized. Pedro Ximenez is the exception in that it’s a different grape varietal that is required to be sweet as fuck and oxidized to hell. A cream sherry is a blend of the two winesHopefully someone else can give more recs
>>21773989>s there a "typical" sherry that most whiskies are aged in?There isn't, because modern "sherry" casks never matured actual sherry.
>>21774058Blessed post. Thanks anon
>>21774086Also what this anon >>21774074 might be referring to is paxarette which was a sherry syrup (boiled, reduced wine) commonly used to condition beat casks. They’d add a bit to a cask and pressurize the shit put of it to impregnate the wood. The use of concentrate has been banned for 35 years but people still like to schizo about it.Also iirc the world’s consumption of actual sherry lags behind the demand for sherry conditioned scotches, so many wineries just fill the casks with low quality sherry, sell the cask, then dump the swill. Regardless, good sherry still exists and I’d like to question why the industry would ever bother going through these steps if supposedly the previous contents of a cask don’t affect an aged distillates flavor lol. I’d also implore anyone who doubts this to try a stout (beer) cask finished whiskey (awful imo but illustrative)
>>21741343For me, it's Old Granddad BIB 100 proof and Rittenhouse rye
>>21771472Paul John
>>21774096>I’d also implore anyone who doubts this to try a stout (beer) cask finished whiskey (awful imo but illustrative)I have and it doesn't taste like stout.Some people experiencing placebo say it does.
>>21774176>American Hero RyeNice.
>>21774292take your fucking meds (placebo)fwiw it was a templeton rye
>>21774319It's particularly laughable to imply you can taste spirits from old casks in a whiskey aged in charred new American oak.
>>21774322So if I piss in your glass, dump it, and refill it with whiskey it won’t matter what the previous contents were?
>>21774325>a glass has the same surface area to volume ratio as a giant fucking cask
>>21774330So if I filled the cask with piss first, that'd be fine?
>>21774331Depends on if it’s milf piss or not.
A seemingly dry cask still has several liters of liquid absorbed in the wood which will re emerge to interact with whatever you fill it with next. Insisting that this basic phenomenon doesn’t exist is obviously just half baked trolling
>>21772544Yeah all expensive oak sugar water is cringe. Bunch of faggots thinking it elevates them above their fellow mouth breathers. Welcome to humanity, it’s the closest to hell you’ll ever have to endure
>>21774471Bunch of hookers
>>21774471>Welcome to humanity, it’s the closest to hell you’ll ever have to endure*hand in fingerless glove clenches into fist*
>>21774471Bourbon is based though
>>21774348>I know more about whisky than Stuart MacPhersonNo, you don't.
>>21774519Tell him to try this >>21774331
>>21774331Depends on if it's cute anime girl piss or not.
>>21774513Based on what
>>21774058nta but I only ever Talyor's Port and it's like $10 per 750ml and it looks like a plastic bottle.
Sandeman 20 year tawny porto is heaven.
>>21774697Based on the idea that bourbon is good and scotch is gay.
>>21774892lol dumbass invested in the bourbon meme and lost his ass whole lmao get fucked hope the chinamen laugh in your general direction
>>21774995>invested in bourbon The only thinking I’m investing in is cirrhosis and scratch tickets
All types of whiskey are good except Canadian (I have not had Indian whiskey nor shall I)
>>21774726Yeah as I said it’s cooking tier although now I can’t remember if I’ve had it- think I got it mixed up with something else in my memory. At any rate tio pepe, don benigno, and zuleta are other ones I’ve tried I’d say on a similar tier to sandeman’s, while taylor’s is likely a step below. Still, anon is pretty much going to have to work with what he’s got bar going to a specialty shop or having some recs to go off of for ordering online
>>21775039Whiskey is stupid
>>21775415fuck off and die in a fire trannyfaggot
Saw this at the store and just about shat my pants. It's probably not that great but holy shit, how could I NOT get Grendizer merch?
>>21774331>>21774334>>21774540Bros…we’ll never get to drink a single malt peated scotch aged in anime milf piss barrels… WHY even fucking LIVE?!?!! FUCK this gay earth!!!!!
>>21771472I haven’t had much to say I just know a pajeet does a lot of picks around my area and he’s been like 7/7 in my experience so far
>>21774058PX has a pretty insane flavor, it’s like raisin syrup. Insanely sweet and dense, I can see why no one drinks it.
