The tough part about carnivore is now that my body has been detoxified I've completely lost the taste for slop I used to enjoyIn reality that's a good thing, but also a little sad because cooking was something I really liked but all the food-like substances just taste bad to me nowThe extreme sickening bitterness and taste of decay all plant "foods" have is really something. No wonder little kids don't like to eat them, this is how they taste when you haven't been conditioned to their toxinsEven lettuce causes a burning sensation in my mouth
>>21758324most kids like potatoes at least. i liked fruit and salads as a kid. i actually didn't like candy that much despite people claiming kids always prefer it over everything else.>Even lettuce causes a burning sensation in my mouthit's possible you have allergies. or oral allergy syndrome. nutritional deficiencies can also cause food sensitivities which are likely on severely restricted diets. i don't think all plant foods are bad but after years of issues i feel like grains and beans aren't really great for some people unless they're heavily fermented to make them easier to digest. a lot of people seem to have issues with them more than anything else. i feel awful if i eat pasta but i tolerate bread a bit more, but still worse than if i eat potatoes.
>>21758324Carnivore is retarded. Are you doing it to lose weight? Vegetables are not "slop". You're trying to hard to use the board jargon and you're fucking it up. Just do low-carb and keep eating fiber and greens and things other than red meat. Have some berries and nuts. You won't be able to sustain that diet and you'll fail in the long run. This board is filled with people trying extreme diets and failing. Just look at the fat, toothless 'godbless' guy. He does that OMAD shit and then binges in response when he can't take any more. Lettuce contains no toxins. And if you think plants decay, you're eating a dead mammal. I just don't follow your logic on that. Be an omnivore; that's what humans are.
>>21758329*too hard
I feel like carnivore would be fine if it wasn't for the fact that the people who try it are all retards. Something reasonable like two eggs for breakfast, a chicken breast for lunch, some fish for dinner, and a multivitamin to supplement the micronutrients you're missing out on would probably be a decent diet if for no other reason than because you're avoiding prepackaged junk foods and being conscious of what you eat. But that's never what the carnivore people do, it's always something completely deranged like three sticks of butter for breakfast, two pounds of cheese for lunch, and three week old fermented raw ground beef for dinner. And then there's the inevitable blogpost where the guy who looks fairly lean and fit actually turns out to have clogged arteries and food poisoning because he's getting 90% of his calories from pure cholesterol and e coli and he's complaining that his doctor has ordered him to eat normally from now on and he seems to have no idea why. It's bizarre.
>>21758350Protein is not a readily available energy source so the fat might seem excessive to you but if you're not eating carbs you need to replace what you would normally have in carbs with fat insteadA big problem people run into is they're squeamish about eating so much fat because they've been conditioned with the lie that somehow fat is unhealthy despite being an essential nutrient, so they end up under eating or eating too much lean protein relative to the fat intake>>21758329>keep eating fiber and greens and things other than red meat. Have some berries and nuts.Here's the rub, why is it that all animals are able to survive and thrive off of 1 food but for some reason humans are the only ones that require a varied diet with hundreds of options? And we're the only ones with rampant metabolic dysfunction aside from our pets which are eating the same supposedly healthy nutritious foods we areI've never heard of a lion with type 2 diabetes but plenty of house cats have it
>>21758350>animeEntire post ignored.Too bad, I may have liked to read what you had to say.
>>21758359>Why are humans different from animals when it comes to diet??Ooof! How embarrassing for you. We're at the top of the food chain because of our giant and complex brains. But if not understanding the difference between people and the animal kingdom is your reasoning for only eating one thing, go right ahead. But you've managed to surprise me with how stupid you are, and that's not easy to do on this board. Good luck!! lol
>>21758367Go back.
>>21758359What you say makes sense. Every animal has specific diet.
>>21758324The tough part about carnivore is the rapid hairloss, ketoacidosis, and myriad of health complications.
>>21758396I went to nutrition school in 2008 and they told me ketones are bad, but also highly recommended seed oils as healthy foods, even above olive oil because they had more polyunsaturated fat
>>21758359>why is it that all animals are able to survive and thrive off of 1 foodI don't think that's accurate. There are plenty of omnivorous animals that have issues if they only eat one thing forever. It's not uncommon for wild omnivorous animals to have a varied diet. >And we're the only ones with rampant metabolic dysfunctionThere are some issues with perhaps not everyone really meant to be eating everything causing problems. Some people thrive on milk but others will get sick from it, some people can't digest starch well, etc. But we're also really the only species that has an abundance of food to develop these issues in the first place. Wild animals are kind of limited by having to actually work to get their food which prevents overconsumption. They can't just sit around and have 10k calories shoveled in their mouth.>I've never heard of a lion with type 2 diabetesCaptive lions probably end up with similar issues if they're overfed. They gain weight too when there's no energy expended to get calories and they're being given too much.
>>21758359What an utterly retarded post. Wild animals have to fight just to survive, and plenty of them starve to death if they fail one too many hunts. Of course they don't have to worry about fucking diabetes.
>>21758359>>21758383> animals surviving and thriving off of one foodWhat animal survives like that? Have you ever owned a pet? My bearded dragon needs a varied diet of different bugs, fruits, and vegetables. LolAs a human, we’re more adept at figuring out what works best for us so if eating hella meat makes you feel good keep at it. Just don’t be a retard. If your tongue is itching when eating certain foods, you may have fucked up your iodine, and by consequence your thyroid.
>>21758443Not ONE food, but a specific diet. Not an endless choice of foods.
>>21758443I have a snake that has only ever eaten mice his entire life and he's doing fineActually toads would be a better dietary choice for him but they don't sell those readily as feeders
>>21758324>detoxifiedMeaningless buzzword
>>21758472>>21758468Are you a snake? Was your boi thriving or subsisting due to captivity? Wild snakes do not only eat mice. Cave men didn’t only eat meat. Cooking and incorporating foods with more nutrients that support digestion are what allowed human brains to develop beyond monkeys and reptiles. Again, you go ahead and do what feels best for you. Stop justifying it like a retard though lol Get some bloodwork done, a messed up thyroid can kill you
>>21758526What kinds of things do you think cave men ate exactly? Because none of the plants people eat today even existed back then. Every plant you've ever eaten is entirely man madeWild greens are toxic and bitter, wold fruits are sour and fibrous, and most importantly only available for like 2 weeks out of the year if you even manage to get to them before the birds and bugs doMaybe a cave man got lucky and found some honey along the way or a handful of ripe berries once a year but it was all meat otherwise
>>21758372Go back to what? Being dumb like you? Your response is vague and retarded. Again, like you.
>>21758396It's just myriad. Not "a myriad of". "Myriad health complications" is correct. What is NOT correct, is that foregoing carbohydrates does anything you listed.
>>21758410Well why trust an accredited nutrition school when Joe Rogan and Sam Hyde acolytes have declared that you need to fear the "seed oils"?Jump down some rabbit holes and "do your own research". Unlearn what that formal education got you. Didn't you receive the memo? Science is corrupt and gay and rejection of all official facts should be your number one priority. Those nameless X.com accounts are where the 'TRUTH' is at.
>>21758549That's all wrong and you're as crazy as you are stupid. >all plants and non-meat foods were poisonous to man before he became smart enough to develop them. His brain evolved on raw mammoth meat alone. Zog smash!
>>21758559Isn't it weird how humans seem to be the only animals that get chronic indigestion and rotten teeth from eating our natural diet of grains and fruit?
>>21758567That's not true. All of my dogs have had dental issues. Also, humans live much longer and eat a lot of refined sugars to cause cavities. I also don't trust that animals don't get indigestion. I've seen many animals vomit.You're so sheltered and stupid and yet you think you have real insight. You think you've justified this diet even though people keep pointing out how illogical and retarded it is.
>>21758567>our natural diet of grains and fruitWhere are you getting that? Humans are omnivores. Our "natural diet" is whatever we can find and/or kill and digest. That's meat, vegetables, eggs, fish, fruit, nuts, fungi, etc...
>>21758549>and most importantly only available for like 2 weeks out of the year
>>21758324>extreme sickening bitterness and taste of decay all plant "foods">Even lettuce causes a burning sensation in my mouthIts not the veggies, anon. You're dying or some shit. Go get checked out. Thats fucked up.
>>21758567>grainsWe might be meant to eat tubers more than grains. Grains are hard to digest which is why they often require so much processing and why pretty much every culture heavily fermented them, but nowadays we're often eating unfermented grain which could be causing problems. Some people say they can tolerate proper sourdough bread but not other forms of wheat. >fruitNot really many issues with this though. Fruit is heavily demonized by some people these days, probably because of the prevalence of refined sugar in processed food and how many people have diabetes, but there is pretty much zero evidence of fruit causing any kind of problem whereas with everything else there's evidence in favor and against it.
>>21758555>>21758410Samefag
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>>21758600Also, people samefag in order to agree with themself, not to argue and insult. Fucking idiot.
>>21758575I don't think that disproves my point because your dogs have been fed kibble and table scrapsIf they had a diet of raw meat and bones their teeth would be healthy
>>21758624>alsoOops. You don't fool me samefag.
>>21758657No. Speak with any vet. My dog eats chicken that I cook for him. He still gets his teeth cleaned yearly because my last two dogs had teeth pulled. You think wild animals don't have issues with their teeth? You're a fucking retard.>>21758678Also as in I was following up the previous post that I'd made. That's also not what samefagging is, schmendrick.
>>21758363there are many, many other websites
>>21758396Hair loss are caused by a black of blood flow to the scalp, which in turn is caused by deficiencies in the muscle regulating minerals: kalcium, sodium, potassium, and magnesium. There are other nutrients that play a factor as well such as collagen. But the carnivore diet isn't supposed to be all steaks. You're supposed to eat hearts, livers, and kidneys too. If you don't eat it you'll lose out on important nutrients.
>>21758549> maybe a cave man got luckyYou’re being so retarded to think the biological advantages from cooking and diversifying diets was due to a few lucky cave men. And back to animal analogies, you realize ape/monkey/chimps etc are omnivores. If you really think you need to eat like some other animal (which is really stupid) why choose reptile to emulate lol hell, if you’re at least eating eggs you’ll end up with better nutrient intake. Maybe you should eat like a snake and see how you feel. And get regular blood panels done to know what you need to supplement
The only thing I kind of miss is French Fries.
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>>21758324>The extreme sickening bitterness and taste of decay all plant "foods" have is really something. No wonder little kids don't like to eat them, this is how they taste when you haven't been conditioned to their toxins>Even lettuce causes a burning sensation in my mouthyeah there is something wrong with you.saying lettuce burns your mouth, would be like saying water burns your mouth.
>>21758324>now that my body has been detoxifiedYou are overloading your body with toxins, you fool.
The white ma's diet consists of meat and dairy, you are missing half.>>21758883more cringe than OP
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>>21758324I tried carnivore and it wouldn't agree with me even after like years of having a very high meat low carb (not keto low) diet. Gave me a splitting like 9/10 cluster headache. I was fine on actual keto though. Anyways happy this works for you. >extreme sickening bitterness But anon a lot of people do great on keto and they have plenty of plants. Why do you complain about plants foods but they don't? Maybe it's just that you're not used to them any longer more so than them being "toxic" Anyways you do you courageous carnivore warrior!
For me the best benefits is that it got completely rid of my anxiety and mild depression and also slight back and joint pain. That of course doesn't mean it's for everyone, I just tried it and it worked, I'm not really dogmatic about it. You do you frens.
>>21758984I'm gonna do keto for an extended period for the same reason (neuro) inflammation. Hopefully it works.
>>21758984Based desu, good for you! Eating a lot of red meat makes me really sluggish. I wasn’t trying carnivore specifically but was to get some muscle back after being extremely ill.
>>21759013I'm not like the steak everyday people, I eat every kind of meat - beef, pork, chicken, lamb, seafood, organs. The only "plant" thing I eat is avocado and sometimes onions when I cook chicken or beef liver, which is once every two weeks. So technically I'm not "Carnivore". The interesting thing is I don't have random cravings and I'm actually satiated after I eat, on my previous diet I would get hungry all the time or use those dopamin cravings for snacking when I'm bored or watching something on youtube. >Eating a lot of red meat makes me really sluggishFor me it was the opposite - all the legumes and rise and bread made me feel shitty and I couldn't sleep well. I was eating a lot of beans and lentils which really bloated me and made me sluggish and brain foggy. But I had a friend who tried Carnivore and it wasn't for him, people are different. >>21759011Yeah, just try things out, pay attention to what works and what doesn't. For me personally I felt a real shift after 5-6 months and I stuck to it that long because I was starting to loose fat, my skinny fat "love handles" completely went away so I just said ok let's keep this going and then on the 6 month mark I really felt the no anxiety thing and also my body felt better, before that I was really uncomfortable even though I wasn't really overweight.
>>21758900Stop posting that garbage, Simon
>>21758329Carnivore is mostly retarded because people don't go hard enough and stay picky eaters. It's all just filets and big muscles while ignoring offal, bones, marrow and the like.
>>21759137If only the average grocery store ever carried any of that besides frozen beef livers or fresh chicken livers....
>>21759157Fair but that is a general issue in most stores, partially because those pieces sadly fell out of use.It is nonetheless a huge difference in terms of nutrients which cn be a huge deal for such specific diets and makes it worthwhile to buy partial animal carcasses.
>>21758324kids like fastfood, burgers, fries, pizza and candy thoughbeit. kinda goes against the argument that we naturally dislike unhealthy stuff
>>21759302Yeah I like cocaine, that doesn't mean it's healthy for me.
>>21758324meat is good
Yeah but how do you feel OP? Is this diet working? That's the most important thing.Benefits?Downsides?
>>21759302It is an ahistorical aberration that modern kids grow up without any food scarcity at all. Kids need calories to grow up and until recently, calories were limited. Combined with their smaller stomachs it makes sense that kids love sweets. The sweetest thing kids had access to has likely been honey roasted nuts, or something.And tbf, kids love fatty and salty foods too.
>>21759137>Carnivore is mostly retarded because people don't go hard enough and stay picky eaters.This is the main culprit for carnivore failure is they still take in small amount of sugar and carbs with their fruit and broccoli so their bodies never adapt to using fat effectivelyThey end up just fucking with their insulin and blood glucose in a way that makes them feel bad>>21759321Feel good, I'm 25lbs lighter, my lifting numbers have jumped up suddenly, my joint inflammation is gone, and my gut it's not bloated at allCons, needed to adjust water and electrolyte intake because my blood pressure was off and I was getting headaches at first, since you don't hold as much water you need to drink more and have more sodium than if you're eating carbsIf I do eat something "normal" I feel like absolute fucking shit now! Which is probably how I felt all the time before but just didn't notice, but like Thanksgiving I didn't even really go wild, aside from meat I had a scoop of mashed potatoes, a sweet potato, a slice of lemon cheesecake I was so fucking sick all nightAnd also carnivore insomnia is a thing I've developed but that's not really a problem it's just getting used toA lot of people find they just need less sleep so they either can't fall asleep at night or wake up way too early. But that's actually fineYou just do biphasic sleep, sleep for 4-5 hours at night then wake up and do some shit then take a nap later if you need oneThe thing that makes it difficult for people is if they have a 9-5 they can't just nap in the middle of the day like nature intended
>>21758324You have to eat vegetables, they drag rotting meat from your intestine
>>21759650>broccoli so their bodies never adapt to using fat effectively>They end up just fucking with their insulin and blood glucose in a way that makes them feel badit's gotten ridiculous when you say broccoli has too much sugar
>>21758552STFU Myriad can be used as both a noun and an adjective.STFU
>>21759661>they drag rotting meat from your intestineI know it's bait, but some people actually believe this
>>21759661Meat does not rot inside you. If it did you would die.
>>21759675>>21759687It's not rotting meat but the insoluble fiber certainly helps move things along and keep your digestive system clean
>>21759687>>21759691you're both retarded for two very different reasons
>>21759691You don't need fiber, meat and fat are highly digestible so people on carnivore just don't need to poop much at all because there's very little waste
>>21759650>And also carnivore insomnia is a thing I've developed but that's not really a problem it's just getting used toI had this for a week probably but then my sleep improved, I also stopped drinking coffee a few months ago. The joint this is so fucking real, I feel light and not uncomfortable - it's unreal. >The thing that makes it difficult for people is if they have a 9-5 they can't just nap in the middle of the day like nature intendedThat was me before carnivore, now I don't get sleepy at all. How long have you been doing this. I've been doing it almost 2 yeears and after 6 months to year it totally shifted and I felt the benefits, like a drastic difference - for the better.
>>21759941I was doing it since August but then there was 2 weeks I went on vacation in Japan so I ate rice and fries often, actually the first meal I had there I had such bad acid all night, then I've been doing it again since October
>>21760081Nice, keep doing it, make sure to not under eat.
>>21759719If you poke yourself below your stomach is kinda hard and sometimes painful? If so you're just full of shit and need fiber
>>21758324Reminded me of an early childhood memory of my parents forcing me to eat brussels sprouts lmao. I wish they would have been a bit more advanced on their parenting memes, and I could have gotten the first cohort of parents that reverse-osmosis filter their tapwater and obsess over natural ingredients. Nah instead I get the last of the boomer-minded gen x parents forcefeeding me brussels sprouts and fluoride and shoving braces in my mouth when all I needed was some tough roots or meat to chew on >>21758329Restrictive diets aren't retarded, they're actually interesting and everyone I know on one is intelligent enough to make theirs work. You are the one with the problem, you're uncomfortable if everyone else isn't like you, like you're a normie or something. >This board is filled with people trying extreme diets and failing.I've been fasting since Dec 1st. I'm down 4~5lbs or so, and I'm not stopping till I get some definition around the torso. I've done this before and I'm not stopping because a normie on the internet is uncomfortable
>>21760099I've been having multiple meals a day, not eating until too full like people always say you should but apparently that's wrongSo instead I made a pound of ground beef and ate it until the idea of taking another bite was impossible and then popped a slice of butter in my mouth for good measure and that's where I left it
>>21760734>not eating until too full like people always say you should but apparently that's wrongYeah, that's what I meant. It's crazy how satiated you feel after. It's so hard to over eat that way, it's hard to keep going after you're full of meat.
