This is the thread for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.Info on types of teas, where to buy, and how to brew: https://rentry.org/tea-pastebinPrevious thread: >>21750672
>>21764206Inside the tea log.
>>21764214What do you even do with this shit log
>>21764219Sell it to lesbians.
>>21764219Cramming
Does anyone know anything about these alleged changes to Australian import laws? I can’t find anything online.
>>21764214Imagine the smell
>>21764219It typically gets cut into smaller slices or cubes that make it easy to pry off however much tea is wanted. You can then brew the tea however you like. Qian Liang Cha and related teas have a mellow, mulchy, woody taste profile reminiscent of dry autumn leaves.
>>21764206That's an awfully small kettle for that much tea...
Hei cha season.
>>21763333>>21763442Wait, so should I wait for the oldwaystea lucky pack or should I buy from them now? I am looking to buy tea *now* as a Christmas present for myself.
Trying my first smoked puer. Wish me luck.
>>21764594Nice, how is it? I remember drinking a sample of that one too. Was weird...aroma was like whiffing BBQ chips. I mean, it was nice, but I'd almost like to just eat a steak with it.
>>21764661Not sure I'd want a cake of the thing (maybe...), but it's good. I like it. I want to try their other smoked offerings--each one at least once--see if they all kind of taste the same, or if some are way better than others. I like smoked things. (Rauchbier etc.)
>>21764318sippin
>>21764214>>21764238i've had some, it tasted like a less intense fu. surprisingly, probably because its compassed into a huge log it breaks a parts a lot easier than brick teas
>FL order still not shippedLooks like I won't be sipping any new sheng on Christmas. Vietsun shipped tho, so there is chance I atleast will have some good black tea. Tis the season after all.
>>21764503Just a warning in case you don't know anon, Chinese shipping is probably totally fucked by the Christmas rush by now, you're probably not getting anything till after new year
>>21764503I think their common / uncommon varietal yancha pack should be a decent value too, which you can buy now
>>21764677>RauchbierI love rauchbier toofor smoky pu-erh, I like Xiaguan
After anon suggested the Georgian produced black tea last thread heres what thats like.Georgian OP Maghali Etseri Mountain - 8g gong fu.Wet leaf smell is very unique for a black tea, strong roast aroma with some damp dried fruit but the roast smell does not translate into the taste. Gives me some faint grape/plum taste but it is not as fruity as most Chinese black teas. Advertised as being chocolaty which I'm not really getting. This tea is overall very mild, not astringent at all and goes in the direction of an inoffensive Keemun. Later steeps get quite sweet. I'm still a bit sick so my taste might be slightly out of tune. Quite an unusual black tea for sure but I have to do more trails with more intense brewing.
>>21764861yeah that tracks with the one I had. mild and fruity, not chocolaty, needs to be pushed more than most other black teas
Drinking some "Wild biluochun" from iteaworld todayLooks like a fuzzy tippy green tea. Very sweet tasting with a green bean flavor. Brothy mouth feel with mild bitterness and astringency, and a "fresh" lightly drying finish. Still tastes fine despite the fact I bought it last year. Quite good overall, it reminds me I need to drink green tea more often. I tend to allocate to much of my tea budget to hording heicha. Going to try to branch out this next year.iteaworld is a newer vendor that gained some popularity a few years back by having a bunch of highly discounted promotional sampler deals that I sadly missed out on. As far as I know they don't do them anymore. I bought their wild tea sampler last year mostly to taste the included Qujiang Thin Slice Tea. Otherwise I have not tried their other teas. The shop looks fine barring the prices being a bit high, some of that probably goes into the tins and fancy packaging. I like that they have a few hard to find types of heicha and some interesting herbal teas. I am sure I can get them off of Taobao for less but it is nice to have a convenient option. The biggest thing I dislike is that their sample bags are only 5g and the free ones a measly 3.5g which is too small for my tastes. Despite that sometime I will probably put in a bigger order with them.
>>21764206Personally I prefer coffee
>>21764861That's interesting. I should revisit my USA grown black tea and compare.
>>217651225g servings is honestly not half bad for a green tea. The softer brewing sometimes favors them. I am just used to pushing tea hard.Round 2Wild dancong from iteaworldLooks like a mid to high oxidation oolong with long intact leaves. Smells lightly fruity dry and roasted roasted and fruity (lychee?) wet. Taste is lightly roasty with a complex mix of floral and fruity notes. Dry mouthfeel, moderate to high bitterness, moderate astringency, with a tingly floral perfumy finish. I don't drink much dancong but this one seems about average for the midrange, not overly bitter and under flavored like some of the really cheap stuff but also not as amazingly complex as the top shelf examples.
>>21764097Dear 2015 menghai spring CKG fans, I emailed Zhang and he suggested LSPE as an alternative, it's 2022 lincang. It's only a bit more expensive. Will give it a shot.
>>21765286$50 tongs are so fucking based.
>>21764230oolong johnson
>>21764238>mellow, mulchy, woody taste profile reminiscent of dry autumn leaves.lmao mmm delicious holy fuck tea drinkers are stupid retards
>>21765308lmao
>>21765372not everything has to be a sugar blast anon. plus with that kind of tea you're feeling for things like texture, how it coats the mouth, any cooling effect, whether it gives a prickly sensation or dry sensation, if there's bitterness, does it go away, do you get a nice lingering aftertaste, etc on top of just the initial flavor. if you just want basic water with flat sweet flavor then the peach tea bags at the store are just fine
>>21765476Not him and I'm not going to throw too much shit your way but when you describe your drink as steeping water in yard debris then it doesn't surprise me when someone makes fun of you.
>>21765494that's because they've never tried the good yard debris
>>21764824I am not buying from any Chinese vendor directly because of long shipping times and tariffs.>>217648302025 or 2024? The latest 2025 oolong pack is only 10$ more expensive than the uncommon varietal pack.
>>21765581Either year should be fine. Some would even say yancha is better after it has had a year or two of rest to allow the roasted flavor to settle down. Common vs uncommon pack is up to you. Do you want to try popular varieties or do you just want yancha?
>>21765605I want to try common varieties for educational purposes. In general, I am trying to try out all of the most widely known teas.
>>21765500for me its pencil shavings
>>21765606Then go for the one of the 2023/2024/2025 "Oolong Sample" and maybe something else small to hit the $50 free shipping threshold. That's what I would do. I have never heard anything bad about oldwaystea and am personally planing to pick up one of each of their samplers sometime. The only thing that has stopped me so far is being too cheap for good yancha.
>>21765646i like old book myself
>>21764206Does anyone know of a supplier for the tea used by Reza's Restaurant (Chicago area restaurant chain)? It is sort of an Earl Gray but with a much richer flavor than any Earl Gray I've ever had.There used to be a grocery store across the street from the original Reza's that carried it (bright red aluminized-mylar bag with a paper label), but they shut down during the Great WuFlu Scam.
>>21766287No idea, but this stuff is my Earl Grey go to. Better than the stuff you'll usually find.
>>21764206>>21764214light it up donnie
>>21765308that's what I came here looking for
>>21766785happy to be of service, glad you enjoyed my hastily made visual gag.
>>21766525GAY
>>21765308Got a sensible chuckle out of me
>>21766788checked and saved ..
>>21765308Old meme is old.
>>21765476just for the record, you can also enjoy the shit out of tea without sounding like a massive faggot
>>21766805yes, oh long johnson is old. what of it?
>>21766805Gold meme is gold
>>21766287they probably added butter to it
>>21765122iteaworld sampling day 2, round 1"Wild gongmei"Looks like a white peony, leaves mostly green with some browning, the leaves are fine and mostly intact, you could probably get away with selling it as a Bai Mudan. Dry leaf aroma has a perfumy sweetness to it, wet brings out some vegetable notes as well. Tea liquor is light yellow. Taste is a blend of tannic dry leaves, raw sugar, floral notes, and a bit of vegetable. Low bitterness and astringency with a tingly drying finish and sweet floral exhale. Overall seems like a good tea. I quite like finer grade, greener white teas even if I don't buy them often.
Did you cry when you found out that green tea and black tea are made with the same leaves? (I did)
I tried "She Graduates" last night--the free sample I got in my w2t order.I'd heard tell of "cooling" teas, but wasn't exactly sure what that meant, but this one was definitely cooling. All-in-all, pleasant if a little too subtle for me. No bitterness and subdued in taste and aroma. It did make me feel good though.
>>21766979iteaworld sampling day 2, round 2"Wild gongfu black tea"Leaves are finely twisted spindly strips, mostly intact and good quality looking. Dry leaf aroma fruity and a bit malty, wet leaf reveals more of the maltiness. Tea liquor is a dark orange. Taste is malty and creamy with fruity undercurrents. Mild bitterness and astringency with a smooth mouthfeel and salivating finish. Again seems like a good tea, no complaints from me on the quality front.Conclusion: I still think iteaworld is somewhat overpriced especially when not on sale, but all 5 teas I bought from them were good quality. Not my top pick but worth a casual recommendation if you see something you are interested in. The fancy packaging tins would probably make them good for giving as gifts. Still I personally lean into the price per quality min-maxing camp and I suspect you can beat them elsewhere. Also as a marked up beginner friendly store where you pay for presentation I would like to see better tasting notes. They are helpful for learning even if you don't think they 100% correct. Building tea vocabulary is hard and for a lot of types of teas if I had to write notes on similar but different tea I would struggle to describe the difference. For example if I reviewed dancongs all the time I would ideally need to get better at describing specific floral notes instead of just saying "floral".
>>21766979Nice looking leaves
>>21764214That wouldn't last long near me
>>21764206>tower of Teasa
>>21766813>describing tea sensations is being a faggotbeing a faggot is when you're scared of retards going "eeww he said a leaf tastes like a leaf and not blueberry hibiscus blast"
>>21766525i do this every day
>>21767645Do you ever share tea with strangers?
>>21767891no im antisocial and even if i wanted to ive never seen anyone else out in the woods i go to
do you guys wash your kettlesI never do
>>21767961Nah, but I use filtered water.
>>21767961Citric acid boil and a few rinses every now and then
I inadvertently bought 50g of funmatsucha while in Japan. There aren't any brewing instructions on the back of the package. What's the usual powder / water ratio for this stuff?
>>21768050this once a year or so
>>21767961I just buy a new one every three months or so
>>21767961I have two kettles. One for general use, which is covered in lime build up, and a 2nd nice one with temp control that I use for tea. This one only gets distilled water so it remains clean on its own. Every now and then I scrub it with a sponge and some lime cleaner.
>>21768723>distilled waterIt's bad for tea>>21767961 >>21768050If you use good water you don't need to clean your kettle ever.
whichever anon said quiche doesn't declare the full value for EU customs lied to me
>>21768771What country are you from? What's the percentage cost for you? You barely show any informations here, what's the value of your package?
>>21768777it's probably going to be around 30% after all the fees, it was a $400 order so it's a little annoying
>>21768785What country got 30%? that's seems really high Highest I know of is 20% like france.
>>21768771they knocked it down by about a third for my package.could be that they don't do that for higher value orders because there's a higher chance to get busted by the taxman with those.
>>21768726some of us arent so lucky to have good wateri do run mine through a brita and i dont get much buildup on my kettle though
>>21769106Buy good water then? Brita is also bad for tea especially if you think trash water will be good because of it.
Like a miniature Sun
>>21768726>>distilled water >It's bad for tea Obviously I remineralize it. And pure distilled water would still be the heck of a lot better than the 208mg/l calcium muck that is coming out my tap.
>>21769123You don't have access to good bottled water? what do you add to remineralize your water?
>>21769132>You don't have access to good bottled water?Sure, but home distilling is cheaper and I don't have to carry gallons of water to my flat and then deal with empty bottles.>what do you add to remineralize your water?About 15% tap water to get to a comfy 30mg/l calcium
>>21769167Your tap water is pure with only calcium to it? So you use distilled water and not tap then add tap water thinking it only adds calcium and nothing else? Did you test your tap water?
>>21769174Nothing wrong with my tap water, except the hideous amounts of calcium in it. It does a chemical reaction with the tea visible with bare eye (and taste), pic rel. There have been papers published on this reaction, interesting stuff. If I deal with that, I don't taste a difference to bottled dedicated tea water the method is fine for me.>Did you test your tap water?No, I can look the contents up on the website of the water plant which supplies my district.
>>21769187I've noted with my brita filter removes this scum stuff. The TDS only drops a little though.One of these days I'll get around to trying remineralised distilled, the bottled water around here tastes basically the same as my filtered tap.
>>21769289>with my brita filterI've done a lot of experimenting with britas but I found the filter saturates too fast on calcium, at least with my tap water. Its good when the filter is really new but as the filter reaches half his life the tea gets messy already. Britas might also introduce new germs, als the filter is permanently wet. You're supposed to store the brita in the fridge because of that but few people do so.
>>21769300>You're supposed to store the brita in the fridge because of that but few people do soI've always stored my Britas in the fridge...
>>21769300Is the scum a good proxy for high water calcium content? There must be some remaining, if I boil it a bunch of times it can precipitate out and cloud the water slightly. No scum though.Tea taste good at least, places with very hard water have it tough.
>>21769110>especially if you think trash water will be good because of it. i've come to accept i wont have good water unless i movei don't but its better than the alternative
How long does it take to (passively) recharge a 320g boveda? A week? More?
>>21769361what humidity? I use 65s for my cigars and it usually takes 2-3 weeks. Especially depending on how you do it.
>>21769454does tea and cocaine go well together?
>>2176952665, suspended about an inch over an inch and a half bed of distilled in an airtight glass container.
>>21769561That's similar to what I do, so yeah about 2-3 weeks but I live in the desert so if you're in a wetter climate 1 week might be enough.
>>21769539Less terrible for one's cardiac health than cocaine and coffee I would assume.
>>21769568I've just been checking and flipping it daily to avoid the cardboard getting potentially soggy on one side. I guess I could start weighing it to see how much I'm absorbing.
>>21769187Yeah I got the same issue. We have a well so it's sort of expected I guess. Whenever I see this it means it's time to boil some vinegar in my teapot again then im in the clear for a few weeks. It's honestly not that bad, looks a lot worse than it actually is, but when it reaches the point like you show off there it makes the last few sips a little off-putting visually speaking.
Bros. Will China ever figure out Matcha so I never have to buy it from Japs ever again?
>>21769591Here ya go.https://www.hugotea.com/collections/matcha/products/matcha-anshun
>>21769595>40 bucksFuck.
>>21769617Is $0.50/g for proper shade grown matcha even bad? Last I had checked much of the Japanese stuff was even more expensive...t. puerh lesbian
>>21769705No, I guess not. Just annoying how expensive it is anyway.
>>21769726Hence I have not tried it yet. Someday...
>>21769737It's pretty good desu. It blows me away. But sencha is cheap enough with an approximate flavor.
>>21769737I haven't tried that Anshun but I've drank literal kilos of their Sonogi. About to pop a can of Wazuka once I'm done with these last few grams.
>>21767961how long can you leave water in the kettle?
>>21769591I wouldn't want to drink chink matcha because the areas where Chinese green tea is grown is particularly polluted as fuck. Heavy metals are way more an issue in matcha because you're actually drinking the whole leaf ground up.
>>21769846This is one area that Japan shines in for sure.
>>21769846Hey, I will have you know I LIKE finding cigarette butts in my tea.
Drinking some rose dian hong today. What about (You)?
>>21770943Ripe puerh stuffed in mandarin orange rind. There needs to be a more succinct name for 'em.
>>21770965Chen pi shou.
>>21766525>carbon wheels and flat pedals
>There are many tea shops across Toronto, but few let you play dress-up while enjoying your loose-leaf brew. The venue allows visitors to sip on afternoon tea while dressing up in Hanfu (a traditional style of clothing worn by the Han Chinese since the 2nd millennium BCE).https://streetsoftoronto.com/food/you-can-play-dress-up-in-ancient-chinese-fashion-while-drinking-tea-in-toronto/Based or cringe?
There's kettle threads every now and then on here, and I'm happy with mine, but I've never seen thermoses get discussed. I only have 20+ year old hand-me-downs, they all leech an ugly taste into the water. Any suggestions for good brands / models, with capacities at or over 1 litre / 32 fl. oz?
>>21771185Thermos is the brand. They make some that are vacuum insulated, which makes for tremendous heat insulation. I used to make a french press in the morning and have piping hot coffee all the way until 3, 4pm. It was great. Find a size you like and go for it. I have one dedicated for coffee and one for water.
>>21771191Looking at their site now, what's funny is I have a lot of old Thermos brand bottles at home, and they've lost so much charm over the years. No bold red and blue dots or checks, and the logo looks like it doesn't want to be there, it's acutally a little sad. Ya get plain black, matte metal, or pastel. They have this amazing legacy and history, and throw it all away to appeal to the "contemporary market". I'll remember your recommendation in any case, anon.
>>21771185i picked up a zojirushi SM-VS95 not long ago, it works really welland there's even a cute little elephant on the front
>>21770943Sippin some awazon """"yiwu""""Not bad tea actually, enjoying it
>>21770943Vietsun Cao Bo sheng in the morning, Teahome Alishan Jin Xuan (roasted) in the afternoon
>>21770943An aged gong mei dragon ball. I got lucky and bought a bunch on 50% off (admittedly from a newbie trap Alibaba reseller) a while back, they're good for the price, and last a good while without losing taste. I find white is good for my nerves, and it's a nice break from the overpriced cheap shou I bought from the same folks. I'm just waiting for my Quiche order to get here for Christmas, and I'll have my first taste of good factory tea.
>>21771227Zojirushis are great, but using mine to hold hot tea caused it to become stained, permanently aromatic, and imparting of flavors. These days, I only put water in thermos bottles, and the Zojirushis aren't that big, making them less than ideal.I actually like the Classic Stanley for it's size. Its bottle stopper thing, allows you to pour without really exposing the contents to the open air making it cool a lot slower too.
Got my Kuura cakes in the mail. I've had both of these before, and really liked them. For now, I think I'll just hoard them. I especially wanted another Subsurface, which is from 2022 and sold-out on the main site. I'm going to get some "A Flash And Then The Quiet Vol. III" in the new year to compare side-by-side with the "Vol. II". Is that vertical tasting or horizontal tasting--I forget?
So I finished going through the for sale flavors in the Shulloween grab bag I got and was most impressed by their Lumber Slut and 520 Jin. Anything else you think I should give a second chance before putting an order in for just those two? Feels bad to pay $10 shipping on only $30 worth of tea.
>>21771109I mean if it's done for the actual love of the culture and tea then it's pretty based. If it's cheap as shit and made just for shitty hipsters to take selfies then yeah it's a little lame. Would be cool with some friends who are just as into it.
>>21771272What did you get from Quiche?
>>21771408As far as ripe goes? You could order the Camphornought if you like lumber slut, I hear it's similar
>>21770943some w2t dragonball with a meme name.it's okay.
>>21771480Well, I decided to buy a few different small items, instead of putting all my eggs in one basket and buying one good cake for the same price. I ended up getting a '22 v93, a '22 7562 brick, a 2014 Xiaofa tuo, and the 2005 Tulin Phoenix raw tuo, coming out to $40. Gotta say I'm looking forward to it, that Tulin tuo has my interest piqued. I wonder if anyone here's had it yet?
are any of these teas good as cold tea? i like cold black and cold green. do they all get fucked up if you chill them? I tried boiling my own black tea once and chilling it and it had a fuck load of sediment that heavily stained everything.
>>21771643A lot of nice tea is also nice cold. Over ice by brewing the leaves with half as much water as normal, or a cold brew.Not sure what happened with your tea, I haven't experienced that
Best tea for contemplation of impending disaster?
>>21771871Ma huang.
>>21771643>it had a fuck load of sediment that heavily stained everything.That comes from a reaction triggered by too high calcium content of the water, see>>21769187You need to find low calcium water (<35mg/l) and you're fine.Ice tea is literally cold black tea with some lemonjuice and sugar added.
>>21771643>I tried boiling my own black tea once and chilling it and it had a fuck load of sediment that heavily stained everything.you should consider cold brewing, i really enjoy most blacks and greens that wayjust put a little tea in a bottle of water and leave it in the fridge overnight
>>21771583The Tulin tuo was just added to the store, I don't think there are any opinions on it yetI've had the V93 and 7562, they are good classic ripes at a good price
>>21771873Been looking to buy some, know of any non sketchy sellers?
>>21772415I'll write a little about the Tulin tuo when I get a chance to try it. 20 year-old aged sheng from a reputable source at 0.10/g seems promising.
>>21771373>using mine to hold hot tea caused it to become stained, permanently aromatic, and imparting of flavors. These days, I only put water in thermos bottlesThis is the pragmatic wisdom everyone seems to come to with tea on the go.>>21771383Hell yes. Looking forward to the photos and writeups. Are you an Aussie cunt?>>21771451It probably can't be one without the other, unfortunately. It's just business.
>>21772732>Are you an Aussie cunt?Nah. Canadian. I've made numerous purchases from their Canadian distributor--Softer Drink.Speaking of, I wonder what they were teasing here.
>>21771873>>21772533same, I'd appreciate to learn about some trustworthy sources
W2T's shous have been kind of mid or cruddy for me so far. I have to re-do my personal notes for Bonesy because I was unknowingly sick when I tried it, but Gossamer is such a bait and switch imo. Not even worth posting my notes. It had nice wet leaf aromas, but was otherwise the essence of>[nothing] + paper: The TeaEven the wet leaf aromas faded out after a few infusions. I am grateful to be in the position to have tea in the first place, but I regret not buying from QuicheTeas after seeing everyone get all the nice aged stuff. Well,I did always want to participate in Shulloween at least once. So far of what I've had, the only particularly memorable one is Regular Enlistment, but I do have several more to go through.
>>21772533>>21772882I was importing it $20/kilo off ebay. >/itm/365950838615shows the exact packaging I was buying but its powdered.
im having a problem with some cheapish ceylon I bought for drinking with milk and making ice tea where when if I let it sit for more than 8 hours in the fridge it goes light in colour cloudy like someone has added a small amount of milk.is this some sorta chemical reaction or a bacterial/fungal bloom? I've drank it hot with no ill effects but dont wanna risk the cold milky looking liquid.I have a kilo of it, id rather not throw it away but if this is something sketchy I will.
>>21772971weird, I can see the listing but it's a blocked search term when I try to look for more. maybe it's illegal in my joint - no fun allowed.is the effect any good?
>>21772917>I regret not buying from QuicheTeas after seeing everyone get all the nice aged stuffAged material isn't always better as young material by definition. So far I'm happier with the Shulloween cakes than my experiences with factory ripe so far. Also Quiche is so cheap you can get bags there aswell and see its really closer to the experience you're aiming for.
>>21773123Exemplum: I tried the "Big Old Ass Tree 2025 Spring Hekai Raw Puer" from Bitterleaf, and wasn't impressed.
>>21773123I'm aware that it isn't always so simple as "more age = better", but I often like aged factory pu'er and heicha. They have a lot of good-looking yet inexpensive Xiaguan stuff too. That said, maybe the cakes are faring better than the material used for the small batch minis in some cases. Not everything has been bad; most are serviceable, but a few have been really, really dull/stale, borderline "I discern nothing". I'd get more of a sensory experience from my old cancerous Fullchea mini tuos by comparison, even if an arguably bad one.
Electric gooseneck kettle recs? I think my oxo is going bad and causing my desk lamp to flicker
>>21773177my bonavita have serves me well for over 5 years and its a more budget gooseneck
>>21773177Bang it a couple of times on the desk >>21773034Congratulations. You have AIDS now. Happy with your kilo?
>>21773034Sounds like oxidation to me
>>21773205:'(>>21773217it dosent happen with my other black teas.
>>21773204which model do you have?
>>21773234Can't say then, though I find it very unlikely bacteria can do anything meaningful in 8 hours in a fridge
>>217732501L classic, but on their websites there's currently a 30% off on their more pricy Cosmopolitan model which makes it cheaper than the classic
Anyone here tried coldbrewing a shou mei?
>>21773290hmm. does oxidation make tea go milky though?maybe i should put some on an agar plate and see if it blooms
>>21773034might just be some chemicals in the tea precipitating out as it cools, ones that might dissolve easily in hot water but crash out in cool. if its been in the fridge it shouldn't be growth but i used to make sun tea with oolong in my car during summer while at work and it would bubble like it was beer fermentation, gave me terrible stomach cramps for a few months before i realised what an idiot i am and stopped. i'd recommend against cold brewing tea in general unless you do it in the fridge an even then
>>21773320it does it not in the fridge too but its pretty cold in my kitchen.i cant think of any chemical that would naturally occur in tea that crashes out of solution when at lower temps so shouldnt be that unless theres something added to it in which case id rather not drink it.it tastes totally fine when hot tho so im not sure what to think.maybe ill get it tested or something but by that point i may as well buy different tea as it was very cheap.
>>21768771The status on mine hasn't been updated in more than a week, even temu shit moves faster than whatever Quiche uses for shipping. Hopefully he actually under declares when your order isn't in the multiple hundreds of dollars, but at this point I just want my stuff to actually arrive instead of being stuck in whatever fucking limbo it is right now.
>>21773309Now that you mention it, when I brew tea and stick it in the fridge for tomorrow, it is cloudy the next day. That's never stopped me from a nice drink on a hot day however.
What's that in your pocket?
>>21773306Oh, I've done this before! It's really good. Very gentle. I can't remember the flavors very well. I think I got cucumber, flowers, and mint.
>>21773133That's disappointing. I've had high hopes for FL hekai(still on the way), but maybe hekai is just overhyped.
>>21773177>my oxo is going bad and causing my desk lamp to flickerAn electric kettle is just a resistive load to the grid so there should be no way it interfers with your desk lamp. Since a kettle is a high power device it could visibly dim your light during the heating phase in case you have shitty wirering in your house due to a significant voltage drop. But that would happen with every other kettle aswell. Hook it up to a different fuse loop.With my kettle I also see a slight light dimming when its on but I couldn't care less.
>>21774155>>21773177Weirdly, my kettle does something similar. It's plugged into my desk, which has a built in power outlet. It'll straight up cause the power outlet to turn off. I have no idea why it causes it to do that. I think I'll have to plug it into its own outlet. But the cord is too damn short. This is the one I have: https://www.oxo.com/shop/coffee-beverage/coffee-beverage/tea-kettles/adjustable-temperature-kettle.html
>>21774167>It's plugged into my desk, which has a built in power outlet. It'll straight up cause the power outlet to turn off.Thats obvious. The internal power wiring of your desk is not desigend to handle such high power appliances, especially now when it has some switching in it. Plug the kettle in a separate socket.
>>21774173I contacted OXO about a longer replacement cord, but they stated that they did not sell them. Where the hell would I find a compatible extension cord for one of these fuckers?
>>21774177Search "how to splice power cord" and watch a few videos, it's not hard to extend it yourself
>>21774177whoot, just use any normal extension cord fren
>>21773384they use chunghwa post which has been pretty decent in my experiencemine just cleared customs so it should be here tomorrow, i ended up having to pay another $170 with duties and handling fees
>>21774228Did you order 1000$ of tea?
>>21774238nope i just live in a shithole country
>>21774228>>21774240Are you in the US? Quiche doesn't know the arcanes of shipping yet I think, take farmer leaf website over 100$ order the shipping is free and you don't have to pay tariffs either. Might need to use a proxy country for taiwan to be cheap I don't know. That's way too much to pay... My country have a flat 20% on value and around 3-5€ for shipping fee for the handling on the territory (will be higher starting next month) Some tea shops undervalue the package like farmer leaf so usually pay under 10€ with taxes and delivery fee included but I don't know about quiche yet will find out soon.
>>21774243There is no VAT in usa
>>21774245Does US pay more or less than eu for tea at the moment? I don't even know
>>21774243i'm in europe and they didn't under declare it
>>21774258Which country are you from? Around 20% also?
I have been blending my black tea into a fine powder, which I then use in an automatic drip coffee machine; the result is quite pleasant.
Got the Farmer Leaf sample pack
>>21774317Any freebies? You can randomly get lucky and get some nice samples.
Drinking some 2022 V93 from QuicheV93 was my first factory puerh, I bought a tuo from fullchea a few years ago back when they sold on AliExpress. The rest is history.
>>21764206>size matters editionYes, Indeed!
>>21773384All Chinese shipping is slow as fuck at this time of year because of Christmas, unless you buy the express version
>>21774317Already? you are lucky that's fast delivery time.
>>21772583Could be decent, Xiaguan has some decent tuos in this price and age range too. I wish Quiche stocked more Xiaguan tuos, they would be good order fillers.
>>21774177I have my kettle plugged into a power bar, and I've never had any problems. This is what it looked like initially. I've since clean it up some, with only the kettle plugged into it most of the time.
>>21774346I had it shipped to my mom's place, which I will be visiting over my Christmas break. From the photo she sent, it does look like a few freebies were included!
>>21774350>Drinking some 2022 V93 from Quiche>V93 was my first factory puerhInitial impressions?
>>21774407I once got a total of like 20$ in freebies on a 50$ order from FL. Sometimes I got nothing though, very random. Usually, it's one free sample.
>>21770943Finishing some old samples to make room for new samples. This time it's some oriental beauty. It's ok. It was one of the cheapest I could find and tastes almost the same as some that are supposed to be "good" that I've had on recent tasting event. Anyway, oolongs aren't my thing I suppose.
>>21774409Tastes similar to what I remember desu. Doughy, a bit of vanilla, a little toasty. Not much fruit. The flavor is simple, but I like the texture.Hard to complain for 5$ a tuo or 20$ a 500g bag. It's good to have as it tastes a bit different from other Dayi recipes, the others I've tried have been sweeter and more heavy on vanilla and cream.
>>21774472Loggt roast oolongs are meh, but roasty oolongs are bretty gud
>>21774479It's all just accessible fragrant water, which is fine, but not interesting to me. It lacks the body/character or whatever you call it that single origin puer has. Oolongs don't engage my mind.
>>21774228Oh well, I'll just wait and see, not like there's anything else I can do anyway. Hopefully I don't get as tax raped as you did, $30 for pleb-tier shipping already hurt quite a bit but I'm okay as long as my stuff stays <10€/100g
>>21774317Damn what a nice sack.
>>21764238You chew dry autumn leaves often retard?
>>21774819Anon don't be rude. Rub a couple brain cells together or ask a question if you don't understand.
thoughts on fellow stagg for tea brewing?
>>21774871I'm using a Corvo at this very moment!The Stag is the gooseneck version I believe? I've tried that one too. I prefer the Corvo. It doesn't really limit your pouring control, once you get used to it, and does let you go fast, unlike the Stag. Both are good though, if a little expensive. Best feature is how it will keep your water at the desired temperature. No need to re-boil water constantly.
Another mysterious tea pillar has been found!
>>21774883I can smell the disinfectant from here. Are you the one drinking distilled water tea? How are the Benefits so far? Gainz on your cloaca? This bird has flown? [hwistling]
>>21774898>Are you the one drinking distilled water tea?lol no, though I've been meaning to give spring water a spin.
>>21774883people seem to recommend the corvo because the flow rate of the stagg is supposedly really slow. the corvo is about 50 bucks more which is why i am wondering how annoying the flow rate is
>>21774974Works fine for me but I'm not super autistic about exact brew times.
>>21774185hurrdurr, I'm retarded. Yeah, that makes sense. I was tired as shit so my brain slipped off. I'll buy one of those fuckers then.
>>21774883>>21774974Also, if you guys are interested in non-gooseneck kettles, I have this one: https://www.oxo.com/adjustable-temperature-kettle.htmlIt goes down to 104F so it's great for Japanese green teas that need a lot of precision. So far, it is very easy to use, and I haven't had any problems with it. The pour is slow and great for gong-fu.
>>21774185Hmm, doesn't the rating matter?
Have you guys ever used tea in your cooking? I watched an old re-run of Iron Chef Japan last night and they boiled pork belly in pu-erh tea before frying it.
>>21775046That sounds really good. I had some old sencha, so I decided to use it on some salmon in cooking because I thought that the grassy flavors would compliment the oceanic flavors. It turned out good.
>>21774974Depends on your preference. Some people like the standard gooseneck for brewing because it gives you a more controlled stream. It's popular for drip coffee brewing
>>21774884>no respiratorsthose guys are fucked
>>21774871>>21774974i'm also using a corvo and would recommend it over the stagg unless you're also into pour over coffeeit's practically impossible to do flash steeps because of the slow pour
>>21775132Pour out the top.
>>21774884What kind of tea is that? I looks more like a golden flower (Eurotium cristatum) inoculated liu bao in a nontraditional (for liu bao) basket than a typical anhua heicha to me. You can see how the tea splits on its own, if it were a qian liang you would need a saw to cut it. The wicker also looks fresh so it is not likely that old. My guess is this is some sort of experimental/nontraditional batch.
>>21775248looks like Qian Liang Cha, i had a bit of a cross section and it did break apart easily, maybe they're packed down in sections as those sections are quite thick
>>21775248I was thinking about that too. I believe the pale dust is remnant from the bamboo wrapping. It seems to disintegrate over time, revealed when it's cut or hacked open. Golden flower tends to grow mostly or entirely inside of a log rather than on the outside. Only a guess.
>>21775057So what's the diagnosis?
>>21775260>looks like Qian Liang Cha, i had a bit of a cross section and it did break apart easily,I have too, It is easy to split along the grain (top and bottom of a slice, the opposite of a puerh cake) but I would expect it to not break up so easily on the strong axis. However, I don't have a full log (yet) to test. it looks too loose too. The wraping is also odd for qian liang, I don't see the expected layers of bamboo leaves.>maybe they're packed down in sections as those sections are quite thickPossible, but I thought they roll and compress the "X liang" teas from the side, not the top and bottom. I don't see how putting the maocha in the basket would lead to such pronounced seams.>>21775263>I believe the pale dust is remnant from the bamboo wrapping.Also possible but I have never seen that much bamboo dust and the basket does not look like it is that degraded. The one exception I know of being stuffed bamboo stems where bamboo pulp ends up on the outside of the tea but this is too big for that. >>21775287Not that anon but hypersensitivity pneumonitis is a risk even if the dust is not toxic.Whatever it is, it looks unusual. I wish whoever posted it included the context.
>>21775322>"X liang" teasIt's generic form is called hua juan cha or hua juan hei cha.>I have never seen that much bamboo dustYeah me either. But I'd still wager a teapot it's not golden flower. It's a weird video.
>>21775322>I don't see the expected layers of bamboo leaves.i've only had one and mine was more layered than the usual tea brick. my guess is it was dried/processed in batches and maybe packed down in layers rather than filling the whole log at once loose and then tightening
>>21775336>It's generic form is called hua juan cha or hua juan hei cha.Thanks, I should have known that.
>>21775322>Whatever it is, it looks unusual. I wish whoever posted it included the context.Can't provide much context, but here's the full video:https://files.catbox.moe/54b93s.mp4
>>21775287cha induced fibrosis
>>21775287basically the same thing that bakers get when inhaling too much flour dust. they're probably fine if they don't do fun stuff like this on the daily (I'd like to take their job if they do), but miniscule particles like fungus spores can damage your lungs badly>>21775648>mp4>audio onlymaybe it's just my browser acting up
>>21775682>maybe it's just my browser acting upWorks for me....
What would you do if you had a 36kg tea pillar anyways?
>>21775784Drink a lot of it, give a lot of it to friends, sell a lot of it.
>>21775784Full video here: https://files.catbox.moe/vf8c1j.mp4
>>21775784put it in my room, stare at it, drink some, send pictures to my friends and make jokes about it>>21775789that looks pretty nice actually, i would have expected it to brew up the color of mud like ripe puer, but this looks closer to something like a fu brick
I got some Kuura Cola ripe puerh and it essentially tastes like wet paper or cardboard. Otherwise it has some nice sweetness on the back of the tongue after a couple of steeps.Is this basically the flavor profile of a ripe? I'm new to puerh and wondering if they all have the basic wet cardboardness.Otherwise the white and black tea I got from them are very nice.
>>21775956No, ripe is supposed to taste like wet dirt on a autumn day
>>21775956I've had wet cardboard taste from some ripe from the boutique producers before, but I wouldn't call it standard (assuming we're referencing the same taste anyway, haven't tried kuura)
>>21775789It seriously looks like they just had a Pharaoh shipped to them for consumption. Remember that whole thing a couple years ago, when they opened the Dark Sarcophagus and people wanted to drink the (corpse) water that'd been sitting there for 2000 years? This reminds me of that. Also, would.
>>21776038Imagine cursed mummy sarcophagus puer!
>>21764594>bat teauh oh... I'm IM GONNA COOOOF
>>21776038That's one of the worst smelling images I've seen for a while
>>21775956Hard to say, people have different taste associations. Most ripe is fairly similar though. It could improve if you leave it be for a couple of months. If it's a 2025 ripe, they can have some off flavors that disappear with time
>>21776311>According to microbiologist Rolf Halden, a professor and director of the Center for Environmental Health Engineering at Arizona State University's Biodesign Institute, drinking the mystery juice is not a smart idea. Rather than acquiring powers from the dead, the drinker could be exposed to "something bad," he said.I still think they should have risked dranking the mummy juice.
>>21776316I asked my friend to try raw puer.I gave him a little bit--maybe 40 ml.He drank a little bit of the little bit--maybe 15 ml.I could tell he didn't like it.What was weird though was that he described the taste in terms like "dirt", "mud", etc., things usually associated with ripe, not raw.He also wanted to add milk to it lmao.
>>21776038>the (corpse) water that'd been sitting there for 2000 yearsJust read an article. It was actually modern sewage water that leaked into the sarcophagus.
>>21776405Good thing I only drank a little bit of it then.
>>21764206I sent the “New York Blend” to my folks as a holiday gift. Impulse purchase so I hope this is a good brand haha
>>21776405Oh that's okay then, should be good to drink
>>21776509Haven't tried that one specifically, but Harney and Sons is usually pretty good. Sounds intriguing....>Harney & Sons New York tea is a calming and deliciously fragrant infusion blended to ease the mind and delight the senses. It combines relaxing chamomile, soothing ginger root, and refreshing peppermint for a caffeine-free tisane. Ideal for starting or ending a busy day, this blend pairs nicely with biscuits or cookies as part of a tea tray.
Giving coffee to a teahead poisons him. Do not do this.
>>21776660The textbook definition of anguish.
>>21775648>>21775789Thanks anon.>>21775784>What would you do if you had a 36kg tea pillar anyways?The big pillars are mostly intended to be split up by tea shops and resold. They do make smaller 3.6 kg pillars as well. I intend to buy one someday.
>>21776660top lmao
>>21776695His Smile and Optimism: Gone
Guys if you have drip coffee machine try to blend your black tea into powder and make it through the machine, lifehack.
I tried 7541 tea I bought on taobao.Brewed using 2g tea leaves 280 ml of boiling water.Honestly it's kind of mid. What am I doing wrong?
>>21777580Use more tea/less water. I'd recommend 7g and 100ml boiling water
>>21775038Any ideas how I would determine the rating for a required cord?
It has now been two weeks and my order apparently hasn't even left Taiwan. Death Stranding style foot delivery would actually be faster at this point.
>>21777475Whats the advantage of going through all the extra steps if I can just brew it in a pot?>>21777595That would be 10x the leaf water ratio. Anon obviously wasn't brewing gong fu
>>21777580You might be brewing it quite weak. You can brew ripe puerh until it's black like coffee and thick, it doesn't really get bitter
>>21777642Taste try it, but blend your black tea fine like you would coffee.
>>21777630Welcome to international shipping in december anon
>>21777642>Anon obviously wasn't brewing gong fuYeah, and that's what they're doing wrong.
>>21777715Why don't they just use teleportation though?
>>21777923Some countries had to pay customs fees already, but it's getting more expensive starting next month, just another tax. They talk about fraud or protection for consumers it's an absolute joke. Same as fair competition the shops buys the same shit from asia and sell it at high price. But because it's a shop the government get more taxes on them so it's fine.
>>21777923>protect consumers
>>21777923This is retarded as fuck
>>21777715Thanks, I hate it.
>>21777923>mandatory "protection" feeHmm where did I hear that before?Also literally no chink packages are duty free, I pay import tax+bs "handling" fee on literally every order unless seller is particularly crafty. Since I have to show the receipt, not even declaring lower value works.
>>21769187Is that really a problem with the water? I feel like I get a lot less scum if I rinse my leaves with cold water first. I also get get it more with some teas VS others. Lot of scum with yunnan gold, much less with keemun. Basically none with green teas.
>hot herbal tea is good>cold black tea is badexplain
>>21778443Herbs have naturally soft stems, and die back entirely in winter, so they're attuned to hot consumption. Meanwhile the woody stems of Camellias produce a high dose of tannings that distributes unevenly in cold water.
>>21778536I see.
>>21777475I do this with rooibos sometimes and it works great because it catches all of the super fine bits. Chamomile too. I think I've tried it with CTC but it wasn't superior to just using an infuser. Some Ceylon dust might do OK.
>>21777923nice memeget me out of here aaaah
>>21777923>cheap postal service isn't part and parcel anonshithole country
Woe! I found mold while organizing my pumidor. My aged dayi 7572 grew mold spots and the aged white label shou in with it also grew a couple. Both of which were good and kind of expensive teas. The dayi is at least replaceable the but the 90s white label shou, not so much. About a year and a half back I also had mold in my other shou mylar. Hindsight 20/20 I should have removed the boveda from the mylar with old shou but at the time I figured it was something with the young shou itself that made it mold since the rest of my collection was fine and I had never had issues before.Worse still this time I had a irreplaceable unique camphor heavy late 90's sheng cake in in a separate mylar sprouted mold. I am really tempted to try to chip off the bad spots and save the cake because it was a favorite of mine. I don't want to give my self mycotoxin poising but perhaps shou and wet storied teas have enough of them that a little more won't make a difference?Thankfully all the teas in my other 16 or so mylar bags were fine. The mold was whitish and fluffy in case anyone wants to know.I use 65% boveda packs in Mylar bags that are stored in coolers to keep the temp stable. On paper it should be safe storage parameters but apparently it is not. The shou in particular seems vulnerable. I didn't use to have problems for years in the past so I am not sure why it is a problem now. Perhaps it is because I did not open my bags enough anymore?Having a hard time deciding what I should do. Should I pull out all my bovedas? Should I plan to buy lower %rh bovedas i the future? Should I try to salvage any of the affected teas? This whole scenario sucks an I am thoroughly pissed about it.Anyone else here ever have problems with mold in their heicha storage?
>>21778993Damn that is sad to hear about your cakes anon. Guess I'll drop mine to 60%.I can't help much but I've had my suspicions about environments where air doesn't flow. Localised pockets of higher-than-ambient humidity seem to be a real phenomenon and under natural storage airflow would keep things "stirred". Just speculation on my part.
>>21778993My condolences.I just checked my containers, and one of them is exceeding the Boveda number. Kinda spooky. Personally, I wouldn't go above the 62% packs. Anything beyond that, and you approach the danger zone.
>>21779119For what it's worth, your humidity meter probably has error of at least 2%pt. So it's within measurement tolerances.
>>21778993
It appears Denny from teadb vibe coded a steepster replacement, y/n?https://my.teadb.org/
Somebody is going to get really fucking sick one of these days man.
>>21779279>be me>rate harshly
Redpill me on chinese yellow tea
>>21779303one 8, no 9, no 10do you even like tea?
which type of tea has the most caffeine in it? black?
>>21779721matcha by FAR, because you're consuming the entire leaf
>>21779721it can all vary, but outside of Japan assamica varietals tend to have more caffeinesheng pu-erh can be pretty nuclear
>>21779601In truth, my particular vice is always saving the best for last. The good stuff remains mostly untouched.
>>21764206>Yerba Mate>zero interest in session drinking waste of leafWhat ratio/temp do you use?
>tea has been stuck in Moscow for two weeks nowUseless fucks
>>21780622I'm the one that told them to take their time. I'm sorry.
>>21780622practice patience, my lesbian
>D E E P L I D
>>21780750for what purpose?
>>21780751If it has a single-hole internal filter, the deep lid would keep the leaves away from it, preventing clogging? Added spill protection from water overflow? æsthetics?
>>21780750Better than not deep enough.My Chinese homie gave me a massive stone thumb ring like that a long time ago. Interesting piece of jewelry. It's something that archers used to use in times of antiquity, apparently.
>>21780603I use 70-80 Celsius I fill my 120ml cup 2/3rds or 3/4ths of the way with yerba mate, then apply water
Should I even bother getting boveda packs and small tubs for my pu'erh? My room humidity typically varies between 55% and 70%. I also live in a rather humid area.
>>21781263A little tub protects the tea from outside aromas.Also, the tea aromas in the tub mingle creating a unique smell that can be very pleasant.There are advantages beyond humidity control.
>>21781272Does that really matter if I keep the teas in a drawer in my bedroom (my tea station is in my bedroom) where there are no harsh smells?
>>21781277A little tub will protect against insects as well.All kidding aside, I suppose you should take "burn rate" into account. If you consume your teas days or months after getting them, instead of years, the greater control afforded by the tub becomes a lot less important.
>>21781300I consume my teas here and there. I have a session a day during my vacations.I do not think that the risk of insects is high because I do not bring food into my bedroom and have protectors on my window. I will keep it in mind, though. Do you have any specifically recommended tubs that have a neutral smell?
I am turning Japanese bros; I really think so. I'm basically just drinking sencha daily. It's nearly perfect. Idgi. Maybe the Japs are right.
>>21781348Now you just need to read this book, anon.
>>21781357Powerful. I will pair this with my Shogun reread.
I am concerned that my Japanese neighbor prefers coffee though.... She gets me matcha from Japan though so whatever.
>>21781340>Do you have any specifically recommended tubs that have a neutral smell?Cambro containers come highly recommended, but are expensive. Restaurants use them to store food.
>>21781348The Lafcadio Hearn to Koizumi Yakumo pipeline.
>>21781387>Lafcadio HearnSpeaking of... There's a new show about him.
FIVEMOLDYBINGS
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=796are the tibetan yak butter meme bricks any good? I don't want to blow $40 on a lark, for some terrible crap which would take me years to drink even if I wanted to. its at least good enough, right? I won't get the kung flu or some shit?I've never bought tea online or in bulk before, pls help.
>>21781638If you haven't had xiaguan tea before I wouldn't recommend getting 2.5kgs off the bat, seems lots of people aren't into it.It's essentially a rougher version of ordinary cheap xiaguan tuos (smoke, some bitter, some astringency)If you tried them, you'll know if you might like this tea or not. I think they're pretty good, but I have old man taste. Milk tea style does smooth things out.
>>21781638I really enjoy it. Had several years of it from a few different sellers. 2013 is sipping pretty good right now.
>>21781638>I've never bought tea online or in bulk before, pls help.Also just adding, it was my first online bulk purchase from china. Think I paid $22 shipped for 1.25kg of 2017 from kingteamall years ago. You could also just try a single stack of the current year for $9.99+shipping from them.https://kingteamall.com/products/2025-xiaguan-bian-xiao-zhuan-brick-250g-5-1250g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha?variant=46011117469926
>>21781672I wonder how different they are fresh vs awazons dry ass storage. Tempting.
>>21781648>smoke, some bitter, some astringencyonly thing I've had which sounds like this was some lapsang I got locally. it was pretty harsh, so if it were anything like that I'd pass. maybe I'll consider the sample or >>21781672. gotta look some more.shipping prices are pretty rough too.I dunno. I'll probably just get something cheap from the local shop in the meantime. pretty strapped for cash anyways.
>>21781263If you're near 70% I wouldn't bother with bovedas. But I would still put it in an airtight tub or bags
>>21781348the best chinese greens I've had barely managed to rival mid tier sencha desu
New:>>21781907>>21781907>>21781907
>>21781765if you want stupidly pu-erh, this should be good:https://kingteamall.com/en-pl/collections/2023-xiaguan/products/2023-xiaguan-xiao-fa-tuo-100g-5pcs-puerh-ripe-tea-shou-cha?variant=43853913850086
>>21781909looks promising, thanks.