I had a Spätburgunder from Rheinhessen last night. 'twas tasty. I'm not aging anything new at this time.

we’re so back

>drinking
2020 stag's leap artemis, subject to the fires like everyone else in Napa that vintage.
>aging
A lot of italian and californian right now. the 04 and 06 Brunelli along with some early 2010s Cult Cali labels I intend on opening in the coming months.

>>21780653
>recommend holiday wines
I can recommend Madeira. Lots and lots of really good stuff out there that's amazing if you're doing heavy or sweet food.

2023 Pieropan Soave Classico tonight

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My Sunday auction winnings :)

>>21780905
>I can recommend Madeira
gibs recs

volcano wine > mountain wine > coastal wine > swamp wine

>>21781478
damn not a single good drink

>>21782086
noooo really? it's all stuff I know very little about and wanted to branch out :/

>>21781478
The Grechello should be fire.

>>21781529
nta but I like Henriques & Henriques and Barbeito. Rare Wine Co.'s collabs with the latter are neato
>>21782553
branching out is always a good thing. the Rahn and Riehen wines are good, I'd be very curious about the Closson Chase and the Monochrome...I should pick up some of those Rahns on wb while they're around
that said my wine storage has several cases of "branching out" buys that are probably way past their prime now lol

unoaked russian river valley chardonnay tonight

>>21782910
the Monochrome was good, I liked their Vermentino/Picpoul blend so I'm excited about their Malvasia that's getting a lot of hype

>>21782041
What about desert wine?

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>>21780762

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>>21780653
Is Sake wine?

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Just some basic weekday wine for now before the festives begin. Probably something fancier like Torres Sangre De Toro and 2U Duas Uvas over the holidays.

>>21784054
technically it isn't, sake is its own pretty unique thing that uses mold as part of the fermentation process. but it's been marketed as rice wine in the west so yeah

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I want to gift my boss a nice bottle of wine for Xmas. he is the ceo of my company and I am the cfo.

/ck/ helped me with a bottle of chateau lafite (pic related) earlier this year for a wedding.

what does /vin/ recommend? Margaux? Mouton? Latour?

>>21784443
I ended up buying a 2018 Chateau Haut-Ɓrion

>>21784498
it's a good wine, but won't be ready to drink for 10 more years
Ch Margaux 2019 is one of the best I've had young
if you're gonna drop that kind of coin and anticipate him drinking it rather than aging it the requisite 20-30 years, the 1990 Montrose is drinking perfectly right now

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>>21784512
I asked about Margaux and he only had 2020 in stock and nothing along the likes of a 90 Montrose.

he did say they had a 92 Mouton but the label was badly damaged and was hesitant to recommend

please accept this kitty cat picture as a token of my application

>>21784443
something with age, in a good vintage

>>21784443
get him a barolo, the 15s 13s are entering their drinking window now. don't buy 2014.

Vino di Nobile di Montepulciano tonight

>>21784443
get him some good bubz, unless he's a weirdo who doesn't like champagne. cristal, salon, krug, pol roger winston churchill, pierre peters, rodez. I don't fuck with gifting anything but champagne anymore unless I'm familiar with their taste in wine, and even then I'll probably do champers anyway
>>21784512
haven't had it yet but according to ct notes it sounds like it may be approachable now even though it's infanticide. but there aren't any notes from cailles or teddy ong yet, and those are two of my go-to reviewers of bdx there and in general. what would really suck is if it's entered a dumb phase where it refuses to show...this is why I like gifting good champagne, it's a no brainer. yeah you could get into a discussion about when it's best to open it up but nobody's going to hate it at any given time, so it's almost a given that whoever I give it to will enjoy it
>>21784652
92 was a trash year for bdx. cute kot

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>Christmas wine recommendations
Bought 3 bottles from lidl:
Chateauneuf du Pape €14
Chiati Riserva €11
Valpolicella Ripasso €11

>>21784941
Crazy that you can get even sloppa CdP for €14. Are you German?

I'm going to go ahead and be a pleb, but I figure I might as well be one here.

Best boxed wines? I like dry wine but a lot of boxed wines are too sweet. When you guys are in the slums, what do you resort to?

>>21784192
Very informative, thanks anon.

Cremant de Savoie tonight

>>21785319
np...oh, and one other big difference is that sake doesn't benefit from aging at all. It's generally meant to be consumed within a year. It doesn't become unsafe or anything after a year, but it might not have the flavor it's supposed to

Unfortunately i don't have access to spaniard/italian/portuguese cheap wines, i suffer

>>21786845
australia or west coast usa?

>>21786751
Cheers, I'll remember that!

I've got an unopened bottle I've been keeping in the fridge is this doing it right or a bit retarded?

>>21787103
Try to drink it sooner rather than later. Once opened, you have about 2 weeks before it starts oxidizing. Keeping it in the fridge was good, lack of light and cool temperature really slows down the rate of oxidation. Once you open it you'll know right away by the smell if it's worth drinking.

What bottle do you have anyways? If it's some low-tier futsushu then it was going to taste like crap regardless. But if it's something like a good ginjo or daiginjo you may lose some of those delicate floral notes by waiting. Or if it's a namazake (unpasteurized) then it might be even more oxidized than originally though - but either way give it a taste before you decide to keep or chuck it

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Mini haul

>>21784105
>tetra pak wine
huh

>>21786845
australia or caucasus

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>>21787184
Noted!

Not sure if it's any good or not, hoping you could shed a bit of light on that?

Jura too damn expensive

>>21789184
Indeed
That said I am going to order some. Have any recs on vin jaune or otherwise "regular" savignin or pulsard?

>>21788638
That's a ginjo sake, meaning the rice was polished to at least 60% of its size (exposing a more pure starch core, making a cleaner and more floral/delicate product). It also was finished with some distilled spirit to bring out more aromas.

Ginjos are a respectable premium category and are known for being light, floral, and very slightly fruity. They should only be served chilled (around 50F, not too cold or the flavors will be too muted). I find sake is more aroma than flavor so try to get a little sniff in when you go take another sip. I can see the bottle date of some time in 2024, so its definitely close to the end of its freshness. It's very good with food too, lighter fare like chicken or fish would be great

>>21789255
Trousseau

>>21789255
>vin jaune
Chateau Chalon is the "grand cru" area for that style. Macle, Berthet-Bondet, Tissot are good producers from that appellation, I'm sure there are lots of others. Try to find something with good age on it.

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Patty Green tonight

>>21789762
nice

>>21789255
2023 Domaine Désiré Petit Arbois "La Bidode"
2019 Domaine Courbet Côtes du Jura Tradition

Mendocino Chenin Blanc tonight

>>21781478
It’s arrived!

>>21785296
>When you guys are in the slums, what do you resort to?
Chilean wine

what're our thoughts on english bubbles? on paper i hate the price but love the technicals.