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how am I supposed to eat this stuff?
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>>21794356
This is not a food. It's a drug. Alcohol can at least pretend to be liquid bread.
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>>21794393
plants are food. and you can make it into a tea
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>>21794396
what does it taste like? i am still trying to find a substitute for coca tea
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>>21794403
It just tastes like dirt, not very pleasant. I'm sure there are things you could add to it to make the tea more enjoyable, but I usually just raw dog the powder to get it over with.
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>>21794403
It tastes like rancid dirt. Don’t get into this stuff, any of you. I used to be hooked and it really screwed me over. Just thinking of it makes me want to vomit, honestly.
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>>21794403
it's really bad. like dirty dishwater. and it mega fucks with your serotonin the next day, really not worth it
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>>21794415
what form were you taking? i think it is hard to get hooked if you aren't using easily accessible concentrated extracts
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>>21794415
I'm currently trying to get myself off of the 7OH pills and it's been hell. I only took them for about 3 weeks straight so I didn't expect to have withdrawal symptoms.

Couldn't get a wink of sleep last night, cold sweats and my whole body feeling restless like I need to crawl out of my own skin.
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>>21794356
I used to strain it with coffee filters because it would make my stomach hurt BAD. Then I tried different brands and did not have this issue so I just take 2-4g in water. Goes further on any empty stomach. Potentially addictive.
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I have never taken drugs before. How would I expect to feel if I tried some kratom tea?
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>>21794510
Pleasant body warmth, euphoria, pleasure and optimism. Energizing. At lower doses you'll be sober enough to channel that energy into work. At higher doses you'll just want to lay down/sit back. I like to eat a lot on kratom. 1-2g if you stayed busy you might not notice much, 3g+ you will feel it for sure. I've never gone above...7g I think? Never been addicted to it but there was one week where I was using it a little too often, like multiple days in a row and I started to look forward to go home and use it. Quickly backed away from that. I take it on average once or twice a month. I'm drinking kava right now which is a lot more subtle and not really a "drug" where kratom, at higher doses, is for sure a drug.
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>>21794510
Euphoria, relaxed. It's an opioid. It's fun every now and then but most retards, especially on 4chan, abuse it and then are shocked that they become addicted or have withdrawals. I took it on and off for years with no withdrawals and then one day I just didn't buy it again and couldn't care less about it
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>>21794562
kava seems to be more like an anti depressant which takes a long time to ramp up. i think i will repurpose it as an ingredient for potentiating other stuff since it works as a mao-i. supposedly it has the special property of inhibiting the B enzyme as well
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>>21794396
>marijuana, cocaine, opium are food

YIKES
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>>21795074
Uhm, you've never heard of a pot brownie?
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>>21795077
>cyanide is a food. you can mix it into Kool aid

GIGA YIKES
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>>21795080
cyanide is good for you in small doses. It's like sugar.
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>>21794356
This shit gives you legit opiate withdrawals, don't fucking bother unless you want to feel like a smackhead
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>>21795155
I'm aware. I'm dealing with them right now. This shit is fucking awful. I've never experienced anything like it and I don't know what to do.
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Just smoke weed like normal potheads
That shit is trash and is more likely to make you puke than high
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>>21794510
manic, obsessed. addicted.
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>>21794356
You make it in to a tea of sorts iirc you just mix it with water and drink it.
I remember getting some from a smart shop in Holland way back in the day. I skipped school one day so I had to hide from my mom so I made it right before she came home for her afternoon break and drank it so I wouldn't be bored hiding in the attic until she left for work again. About 5-10 minutes after ingesting I became extremely tired and fell in to a deep relaxing sleep. Wasn't much of a high lol probably took too much for someone that had never done an opiate like substance.
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>>21794403
Similar to cinchona IMO. Bitter and earthy.
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>>21795156
Brother you've just got to wait this monster out, the sooner you get through this the sooner it stops being a problem. Keep strong and remember to stay hydrated fingers crossed for you
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>>21794356
I tried it for a while to substitute alcohol and deal with social anxiety. didn't really do much for me, but on the bright side I also didn't get addicted to it and never had any meaningful withdrawals. you can take it in pill form if you want to, or if you only have loose powder, you can wrap it in a thin tissue or piece of toilet paper and try to swallow that whole thing with some water, because the actual taste of it is heinous. one good thing about it though is that I had the best, solid shits I had in my life when taking it
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>>21795325
Thanks man. The first night was the worst and it's slightly less agonizing now. I can't even lay down and rest my entire body is on fire.
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>>21795331
Opiate withdrawals are the worst but they they don't last very long. Hopefully you'll feel better tomorrow. I never really had a problem with them because I tapered for a few days, worth trying if you have anything left. Just make sure you actually taper instead of getting high lol and if you don't have anything likely you'll already feel much better tomorrow good luck anon! And as the other anon said make sure to hydrate.
>>21795329
>solid shits
Yes biweekly (If I was lucky) rock hard agonizingly painful shits for me. On the bright side, I did enjoy having to take a shit only once a week.
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>>21795329
lmao druggies be eating toilet paper holy shit
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>>21794356
Snort it like cocaine.
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>>21794356
Be careful with that nasty gas station dope.
It was all I could do to get it down and keep it down. And then the high was like a rollercoaster of nausea and euphoria. Hardly worth it. Glad I developed no dependence on it. Too gross.
If you like "matcha" flavored shit you won't have trouble with it. There are always the capsules. But I learned my lesson. I've decided cannabis is the only "drug" I can roll with anymore. Won't fill you up, never lets you down. Legal now and I never lose control.
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>>21795156
You can legit get prescribed Suboxone if you see a doctor. It's not unheard of for kratom dependency. Especially these days. Look into it. You might qualify for free medically-assisted drug treatment.
Try to taper down and wean off yourself otherwise. Good luck.
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>>21795329
>the actual taste of it is heinous

Damn, you really got me. Yes, you nailed it!
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>>21795379
Ahh yes, admit to the doctor about doing drugs.
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>>21794356
use it like matcha powder
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>>21795386
Why is this a bad thing?
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>>21795386
That's what they are there for. You think you'd get in trouble? LOL
Kratom isn't even illegal. But heroin is and they're happy to get you off that too with other drugs. You won't get busted.
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>>21795156
F
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I have been taking 10mg 7-OH tablets recently along with weed. I really can't tell if these are doing anything other than making me sleepy and a little nauseous as the high from the THC hasn't changed. I really don't see how people get addicted to this stuff unless I'm not taking nearly enough.
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>>21796700
10mg is nothing. Try 100 and see how you feel.
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Worst drug i've ever tried
fuck kratom
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Weird to see people doomposting about kratom like it's krokodiil or some shit, I see it all over. For me it's just something I have a spoonful of with a beer. Makes for a nice late afternoon mood boost. I never felt addiction/withdrawal symptoms at all, I just notice that if I go daily too long I build tolerance. I never tried to up the dosage because two spoons at once felt headachey. I assume that the STAY AWAY FROM KRATOM BRO people just tried to chase big highs over and over by ratcheting up the dose
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>>21796924
The problem is the 7OH pills. Those are legitimately dangerous
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>>21796924
It's the non life ruining drugs which are often more sinister. It's easy to get addicted to kratom because outwardly there are no negative effects, it doesn't make you slouch over like a fent zombie, it doesn't make you scream at traffic like a meth head, it just makes you feel good and then gives you a horrific addiction. If you think you can handle it without getting addicted then fair play but just remember; nobody tries a drug wanting or expecting to get addicted...
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>>21794415
How did you stop? I've been going 6 years :(
I want to have money. Lel, captcha gave me the triforce 2 times.
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>>21794356
Thick chocolate milkshake is best for hiding the taste and getting that clumpy consistency down.

I had to stop doing that because of the calories so I managed to get used to toss and wash. But eventually got sick of that and now I'm on capsules because its cleaner and easier.
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>>21796983
Addiction seems really personal and variable to me. Like I guess it's easy for me to say kratom isn't a big deal because I can take breaks with no side effects or cravings, but I also do zyns/cigs occasionally and alcohol regularly with no feeling of addiction symptoms, so who knows. Seems like an odd thing to be determined by genetics but I'm sure that's what's going on, I wouldn't call myself particularly "disciplined" or anything, I just find it easy to put stuff down.
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Am I the only one who somewhat enjoys the flavor? It tastes like green teat to me.
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>>21797589
I've never been physically dependant on anything, either. For 1 1/2 yrs cocaine, nothing cold turkey. 7~ years later daily on percocet for 2~ years, and had done it frequently before the daily use. Alcohol binges for months for 20 years, but essentially constant 3-4 day weekly plaster. Hangovers were brutal. I've went a solid 6, 4 and now 2 months so far of wholly sober from booze. Never had withdraws for anything. Ah, smoking cigarettes for 20 years, too, accidentally quit that a year ago (partially). My dad died in April, so my drinking went crazy u til October, and smoked when I drank. Then again, I do on pouches, so that probably helped, but honestly, I've never had withdraws for any of it.

Kratos, I've been using daily for 6 years, it doesn't even do anything anymore, literally just wasting my money. Psychologically I can't stop. I did go I think 3 days without a few months ago and was fine. I hate my brain :(
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>>21797661
Yep. Physical dependence and addiction are not always the same thing.
I'm addicted to weed but stopping doesn't do anything but make me feel weird and a little cranky for a couple days. And odd dreams (you don't dream much or remember them as a stoner).
There are times in my life that I put it down a while to be focused on stuff and times when I don't care and just blaze the days away(z).
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>>21797647
>green teat
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>>21797681
Shrek over there
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>>21796928
How much 7-OH do I need to get legitimately dangerous?
>>21796741
>>21796700

The only opioid frame of reference I have is that I've also taken 5mg oxycodones, and those don't do much more than dull minor pain and make me sleepy too. Please tell me I'm not resistant to opioids or some bullshit.
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>>21798019
>and those don't do much more than dull minor pain and make me sleepy too
That's literally their job, if you were resistant to opioids you wouldn't feel relief from a pill. People who want to get fucking zooted take a pile of them. Probably not advisable
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>>21798174
I only have six (30mg) of them left

Did I miss my chance to abuse them? Do I need to go break my foot again?
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>>21799376
No. Just crush them all up and snort them. Or better yet, mix the powder with 3 shots of liquor and drink it.
That's how I used to do when I was a chemical cowboy.
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>>21799379
I've really been saving them to mix them with a psychedelic (or to take for real pain), but I am not sure that will be a worthwhile combination.
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>>21799376
Pls send them to me, anon. That's a week worth for me :,(
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>>21799381
Yes, save them for pain. I wouldn't mix with hallucinogens.



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