If soy is so unhealthy, how come the Japanese live so long?
>>21801738It's not "unhealthy" it's "gay". Also you're not considering that the soy Americans consume is highly processed and that the rest of the diet is not particularly nutritious.
>>21801750This is the cooking board you don't have to pretend anything with soy in it, aside from drinkable meals, is for bald males with beards and glasses just to fit in
Don't take dietary advice from people who think the world is being manipulated by evil forces to ruin their culture.
>>21801738I think they eat the beans, not something way down the production line. Tofu I guess.They just plain eat less and move more.
Healthy for asiansunhealthy for europeansnot a difficult concept.
>>21801738Italians, Japanese, and French all live a long time and have healthy lives. They all mostly eat fresh vegetables and a lot of fish, and they all also smoke like chimneys and drink like fish.
>>21801738because many of them do this thing everyday called "walking", something foreign to most americans.
Because Japanese don't overeat proteins? Don't know why so many people in the West have to pretend that they're cultivating mass. They're just going to sit on their asses.
>>21801750this. also its a bandwagon people like to jump on to sound smart or like they have some sort of secret knowledge other normies don't have. i saw some dumb X post by rob schneider bitching about how vital farms feeds their chickens soy WELP NOT GONNA BUY FROM YOU ANYMORE. ffs shut up.
Japanese people just eat far less food in general, it's a larger slice of their net income and they rarely have time to eat well, they also actually get shamed for being morbidly obese unlike amerimutts, you'd live longer too if you fasted regularly, the human metabolism did not evolve to be constantly digesting nutrient rich deep fried fats, proteins and starches in every single meal 3x a day.
>>21801845all the meat you buy at the grocery store was fed a diet of almost exclusively soybeans
>>21801738They ferment is. Raw soy is poison.
>>21801738Simple. It's not.Stop getting your health woo takes from podcasters blasting enough TRT they look like boiled lobsters.
>>21801808because american cities are designed for cars not for pedestrians
Man people are fucking morons. It's the amount of shit you eat. If you poor a bunch of soy sauce on stuff, then yeah, it's unhealthy. Same as red wine being healthy in MODERATION. You dipshits really are destined to be overweight losers forever. Never procreate and resolve your selves to lives mediocrity.
>>21801963Actually more recent studies have shown that no amount of alcohol is safe for consumption. Old studies included ex-alcoholics in the non-drinking category which skewed the data
>>21801738Soy hate is worse than thinking raw milk is healthy and the anti soy people are far more vocal and retarded.
>>21801963>Same as red wine being healthy in MODERATION.it's not. alcohol at any dose is bad for you. it only looks good in studies because the people that drink moderately often have better diets/lifestyles
>>21801738have you beheld an average japanese man?
Estrogen makes you live longer, but why would you live in such a miserable effeminate condition?
>>21802010Cancer and heart disease are the leading causes of death in men, and both are caused by excessive androgens in the male body, the easiest example is dihydrotestosterone, a byproduct of testosterone important in sex differentiation throughout puberty but after puberty it just hangs around forever giving you high blood pressure, making you bald and giving you an enlarged prostate and eventually prostate cancer.
>>21801738The REAL reason Japanese live so long is they are physically fit - like <4% are obese in Japan, and they SHAME THE SHIT out of you for being a lardass (outside of sumo). So yeah they up their risk with all that seed oils and salt in their diet (and drinking), but it's counter balanced with exercise. Until they kill themselves with overwork, of course - that is the exception.
>>21801975While it is always harmful to the liver, it does have legitimate upsides that cause it to be used constantly:1. It works as a quasi-truth serum. This makes it useful for establishing social connections and it's why alcohol is front and center in social settings AND contains the peer pressure it does. It is massively important in establishing trust. 2. It works as a depressant, which calms people down from high stress scenarios. Obviously this is bad to take if you are in a depressed state - it will just make it worse. This DOES have health benefits from lowing stress hormones. 3. It lowers inhibitions, which results in both more risky behavior - required for forming relationships and sexual contact, but does have the downside in letting people do stupid risky shit that could kill them. This is highly useful to people with social anxiety. 4. And of course it harms your liver and makes you fat, depending on your variety of booze. Essentially alcohol is like acetaminophen - it solves aches and pains but fucks with your liver. So we use it. Because that little bit of medical benefit is worth the damage it causes. Also: if you fail to get married and reproduce as a result of poor socialization, being a non-alcoholic is extremely deadly. It's not a coincidence Gen Z is both non-alcoholic AND maidenless.
>>21802015Are they not getting fatter, percentage wise, like the Chinese? I remember hearing somewhere that high blood pressure is common in Japan due to soy sauce and instant noodles.
>>21802023>4Meant to say alcohol is tasty as fuck and very useful in cooking and sterilization.
>>21802033Still under 5%, but supposedly the kids are getting fatter thanks to screen time.
All of this gay anti-soy crap stems from some dumb veteran farmer guy who was lactose intolerant and started drinking AN ENTIRE GALLON of soy milk every single day, causing him to grow boobs. No, Ma Po tofu from the Chinese place is not going to turn you into a ladyboy
>>21801738It's fine, chinese eat a lot of that shitAlso kikkoman Is v good
>>21801764>Don't take advice from people who think the world is being manipulated by evil forces to ruin their culture.FTFY
Japanese get like 5x as much sodium as Americans. America has by far the healthiest diet in the world. Low fat, low carb, low protein, only polyunsaturated fat, enriched flours, fluoride literally in the water. If science says it's healthy we do it. Extreme paranoia schizo tier afraid of any alcohol or tobacco. And yet the population is fat and has all sorts of weird diseases, even fake made up shit diseases like hypertension or peanut and gluten allergies.Don't want to be controversial but I felt a lot better after doing the exact opposite of what science says. If you actually look at the studies they cite the methodology is pretty flimsy, so it's not really being gontrarian. >A sample size of two adults from the crackhead community were found to have on average 3mm hg higher systolic pressure compared to sample size of one babies on the moon therefore limit sodium strictly to 1,500mg per day, or else
>>21801738They eat reasonable sized portions and walking isn't a foreign concept to them.
>>21802163If soy made you grow boobs so easily my friend wouldn't be ordering her estrogen from sketchy mail order sites.
>>21801956Heard of sidewalks and crosswalks?This isn't even an excuse, fatty.
>>21802506At what exact level of retardation did they tell your mom you had?They scored this far too low.
>>21801738I read that soy sauce doesn't have any of the feminizing/negative effects of regular soy because of the fermentation process. I can also tell you from personal experience that I developed like little hard bumps under my nipples (gynomastecia?) whatever you call it, around the same time I was having a shitload of banana and vanilla flavored soy milk daily way before 'soy is bad" was a thing. Legit one of my favorite drinks, such a shame it fucks with your hormones.>>21801796This seems dumb tbdesu >>21801820Without looking up stats I can tell you Hong Kong people have the highest IQ in the world AND also eat the most red meat. I'm assuming they also live fairly long lives. >>21802010Yup this pretty much Asians are more effeminate and thus live longer lives.>>21802015Sumo's are professional athletes so by definition they are "fit" There's a lot of muscle under neat those fat flaps you know. >>21802679As a European I would feel scared walking through American cities with all the gangbangers and meth heads and gun owners and things. Also would not want to risk getting arrested for walking on the side of the road.
>>21801738Fermented soy products are fine. The issue is the natural beans
>>21801738>If soy is so unhealthy,It's not. People had an issue with soy protein when it was used as a meat substitute.
>>21801913Same in my country. Soy-free is a luxury product description over here.
>>21802506I refuse to believe this is a real postEven RFK Jr. wouldn't post this
>>21802163>started drinking AN ENTIRE GALLON of soy milk every single day, causing him to grow boobsIt’s far more likely that other environmental factors triggered an underlying genetic predisposition to gynecomastia rather than the soy consumption
>>21801750You don't think soy sauce, tofu, soy milk, etc are heavily processed?
>>21802163Could it be... the farmer was just getting fucking fat?
>>21802916Some people just fill out that way.
>>21801738Japanese either kill themselves directly,die by being overworked or live 100 years to inflict maximum pain on the japanese and koreans
>>21802916nah man everything bad that happens to me is some jewish glowie conspiracy
