give me the black pill on stand mixers
>>21803969you probably won't use it often enough for it to be worth it
>>21803969They're overpriced for what they are (especially that one with the wood bowl) and you'll seldom actually use it.
People are outing themselves as lazy cooks, bakers, or chefs by saying you'll rarely use it.
They take up a lot of space that could be used for microwaves, air fryers or panini presses
>>21803976>can't knead dough by hand>lazy
No one asked for the worthless, fetid opinion of a fucking frogfaggot loser.
>>21803980you'd only have to if you live in a third world country
>>21803969Stand mixers are at worst a convenient avenue to regular tasks, and often make arduous ones more bearable, even if most of the things you can do with a stand mixer are doable by hand or with a hand electric beater. Whether it's worth it depends on how often you cook in ways that will utilize it and how much easier it will make that process for you. Whipping egg whites by hand is fucking annoying, whipping cream into butter by hand is awful and only marginally less so with a handheld electric beater. Beyond tasks that fucking suck without one, if you're needing to mix batter multiple times a week then it will be very convenient for you even if individual mixings aren't annoying. The bowl can be chilled and does not transfer much heat to what you are mixing, which is useful for things that require things to stay cold. This is technically true for hand beaters as well, but they are less powerful and so anything you're mixing will have more time to warm up.You can use various attachments that let it become a pasta roller/spiralizer/meat grinder but the mileage varies on these and they would not be as good as dedicated tools for these purposes. If you're not picky about those things, it's nice to have the option available.Unrelated to the machine's functioning itself, good ones can be pricey depending on your economic situation, and they take up a decent footprint in storage depending on your counter space and storage capacity. If getting a cuisineart or kitchenaid would break the bank for you specifically then it's not truly necessary most of the time.tl;dr if you have the money and the counter space then it makes many thing more convenient or practical, so if you do those things and you have the money and space then consider it. If what you cook doesn't involve mixing or you're strapped for cash or storage space then stick with a hand beater.>>21803976It's comparatively lazy to employ a stand mixer when you can make due without.
dough has been solved. why knead it?
>>21804008Gives you a better feel for the dough as it develops and it's enjoyable to do. If it's not particularly high hydration then it's pretty pointless to break out a stand mixer for kneading honestly, doesn't really save you much time at that point. If you can't be assed to take 5 minutes to work the dough by hand then that's your business.
I got mine for free from a relative so the price of entry was 0 but when you bake it is very convenient but I’m not much of a baker so it just sits around most the time. If you bake a lot I would definitely have one but for me I wouldn’t have bought it if it wasn’t given to me.
that nigga wrote a 281 word essay on stand mixers
KitchenAids really suck, buy that one swedish brand instead
>>21804039Yeah, that's the fucking thread. OP wanted to know about stand mixers and that's been my experience with them.
>>21803969Great. If “you dont use them a lot” its because YOU dont use them a lot. I use the pasta attachment every other day, i can make and boil fresh pasta in the time it takes you to cook dry pasta.
>>21804069Do you not rest the dough at all after kneading? If it's a smaller pasta shape you don't need more than 10 minutes or so to get a small pot of water boiled and then it's 5 or so minutes to cook dried pasta.
>>21804039Virgin activities
>>21804039Everyday it amazes me that there are really ‘people’ who can't read more than one paragraph without complaining.
>>21803969what black pill ? if you use them 2-3 times per week they are good and will save you time>b-but i use them once in a blue moon that means they are not worth itsound like your problem
how come milwaukee can make an impact wrench that puts out looney toons torque, but all of these expensive kitchenaid mixers need plastic gears so they won't burn their motors out on bread dough?
I make all my bread dough in my bread machine, so I really only use my stand mixer for things like cookies and masa for tamales. It's still nice to have, but it wouldn't be a top priority for me if I needed to outfit a kitchen from scratch.
>>21803980The laziness is implied by the claims of it being rarely used, i.e. these people aren't kneading with a stand mixer or by hand. Please read the posts you are replying to more carefully in the future.
>>21804303That wasn't misunderstanding the implication. That was pointing it out how retarded it was. How stupid do you have to be to get correctly told off by a frogposter?
>>21804039>frogposters can't read more than 2 sentencesshocking
>>21803974and if you don't buy one you definitely won't use it.god you are retarded.
>>21803990where did the appliance touch you anon?
>>21804370?? what is wrong with that statement?
>>21804370You're that special sort of idiot that should never be left alone in a used car lot.
>>21804122why are you comparing to completely unrelated things you gibbering baboon.
>>21804039just lock in zoomie and take it slowly, one sentence a day, you can do it
>>21804373>>21804374because you stupid faggots. you're just automatically assuming that everyone is stupid, poor, and lazy like you and won't use something they buy. when the opposite would be true. if you spend the money you will find reason to use it. now go be poor retards somewhere else.
>>21804379>if you spend the money you will find reason to use itI don't think it always works this way, depends on what keeps you from baking more often at the first placeit's also a weird motivation when you think about it, pretty much a sunk cost fallacy
>>21804379I don't assume that OP is any of those things or that he would not use something he buys. All we know is that he did specifically request to know bad things about the stand mixers in his post. Now you on the other hand, appear to be dumber than the average idiot on this board, which is saying something for the level of discourse here. You probably have a house full of retarded kitchen gadgets with that childish "oh but what if I maybe might use this one day" attitude. Mental illness on clear display. Your reply to me will be tinged in hysterics and implied tears but feel free anyway
>>21804401completely wrong. OP is trying to sell them by rage baiting.
>>21804520only an absolute retard would get AIDS in the kitchen instead of an ankarsrum
They are for women who want to show the 'gram that they're "into cooking". Make a batch of macarons, pick out the 3 that came out photogenic, throw out the rest, pose with the 3, hit post, and then have un petit melti because you only got 11 likes
>>21804122They're pretty much the same price and kitchenaids have metal gears
>>21804524your mom got aids in the kitchen
>>21803969Counter space hogs that are useless unless you do the following:1. Bake regularly. Cookies, breads, etc. 2. Want to make butter or other time intensive whipped items. 3. Want to use it for meat grinding4. Want to use it for pasta makingIt does not function well as an ice cream maker. If you are a typical ck poster (a cooklet), you do not need one. Just enjoy your fast food slop.
>>21804524Ankarsrum's accessory lineup looks like they tried to copy KitchenAid's but forgot that their mixer is basically an electric lazy Susan instead of a stand mixer. Feels like they should have done a bit more thinking on those.
unless you are really serious about baking, like more than just pizza a couple times a month, specifically baked items that make use of beaten components, or are committed to the food projects the attachments allow, it's probably not worth it. you could get several more impactful items for the cost of a standmixer. if you are specifically focused on pizza you would 100% be better off buying an ooni for the same money.
>>21804008Enriched doughs still need kneading to incorporate. Hand kneading brioche sucks. I've done it a few times and its always a mess.
>>21804122Impact wrenches aren't made for steady loads.
>>21803969I have the small KitchenAid and it kinda just twirls the dough around in a circle without actually kneading it. So it never actually develops gluten and I have to do at least a few stretch and folds after to give the dough enough structure. Definitely not nearly as good as a big hobart machine I used in food service.
>>21806443bullshit. I have the same mixer and it works perfectly. skill issue.
>>21803980I prefer kneading by hand desu, except for brioches. Other than brioches I mostly use my stand mixer to beat egg whites, which could be done with smaller machines
>>21806443You probably need to adjust the bowl height.https://youtube.com/shorts/d-xK2kYQgIU?si=bCuCe7HjGh4NjHRt
>>21806746didnt watch but that gay little adjustment screw does literally almost nothing. what you need to do is buy washers from the hardware store and put them over the little spikes that the bowl sits onto, THAT actually fixes the problem
>>21803969I have never gotten a good result trying to use these for breads or similar dough, but with pastries and mundane tasks it has always pulled through and done a great job. I can only imagine the attachments would be good but I'm not paying $100 for each one.
>>21806746Thank you, anon. I wasn't aware of this but I adjusted it properly now and will be baking on Friday to see if this fixes my occasional issue with the dough failing to knead.I like using mine for baking pita bread, which is always better freshly baked than purchased from the store.
>>21803969I use it for mashed potatoes and cookie dough. Its amazing.
bought a stand mixer bros........
>>21804076If im not in a rush but its not essential. 15 mins is more than enough time.
>>21803980kneading is a meme anyway. gluten develops on its own if you let it.
>>21810759>just wait 12 hours for some gluten to form brono i want my bread today thank you
>>21804379>literal kid logicI don't think you should be trusted to make your own buying decisions. Maybe that's why you're so mad, your legally appointed wrangler won't approve your dumb ass requests kek
>>21810773People buy $300k sports cars and then crash them on the drive home from the dealership and you're hounding somebody for buying a fucking kitchen appliance.
>>21810803>>21810773bitch ass nigga
>>21810803>waaaaah why did they make fun of him for being an idiotPeople with sports car money don't need to give a fuck. People without 300k-sports-car money max out another credit card buying their 12th needless appliance they probably can't afford and burn out the motor trying to knead a stiff dough on high speed then wonder why they get an eviction notice. If you're buying a specialty gadget just to find a reason to use it then you're probably too stupid to spend money unsupervised. Unmedicated bipolars rapidly burn through life savings, be it thousands or millions, this sort of attitude and the absence of someone to pull the leash. It's how lottery winners find themselves poor again in a few years.
>>21811073>People with sports car money don't need to give a fuck.Is that why they buy a gaudy 300k car and have no taste and are stupid as fuck?
>>21811135>seething poorkek
>>21811135People usually don't have good taste in many things. Most don't have good taste in a single thing at all. Rich people buy rich people cars and those can be good taste or bad taste cars depending on whether someone actually has good taste in that category. Being rich enables a person to explore taste in things more readily but that doesn't mean they're going to.
>>21804106What do you use them for 2-3 times a week? Seriously what werkday after work meal needs a standmixer?But my opinion on the matter is>i dont use it often enoughIs just a way of talking yourself out of something you would buy because you want to have it, and the once in a blue moon you would use it it would bring you joy so why not?What are other things people do once in a blue moon because they bring them joy?Thats right, hookersNow compare hooker prices to standmixers
>>21811147Kys jew
>>21811164>broke, retarded and seethingkek
>>21811167Im not even that anon but seriously acting like andrew tate>what color is your standmixxer you contemptible low class fagIs just so gay and foremosz jewish>look at me goyyy, all the things i bought with the money i printed, all the wealth i stoleYeah ill double down, please kill yourself and make the world a better place.Dont feel like doing that, dont worry, soon we will help you
>still seething and copingkek
>>21811176>im not seething over stand mixers!>im gonna kill you kike!
>>21804372In the butter-maker...
>>21811176you have to be 18 years or older to post here anon
>>21803977>They take up a lot of space that could be used for microwaves, air fryers or panini pressesThis. They are the enemy of a tiny kitchen or lack of storage. Nothing is actually wrong with good appliances of course. There is a power and size difference in kitchenaids. You won't want both, so if yo plan to do dough, maybe spring for the more pricey model, which has the level to go and down. Mine is not that model. But the locing in bowl is great for really stiff cookie dough with mix-ins.
>>21809960Let me guess, it just stands there..
I debated buying KitchenAid for months, because I only wanted it for once a week bread/buns and occasional pizza or pastry (not big on sweet bakes). I haven't regretted getting it for a second, everything comes out faster, smoother, better.
>>21804094I know 'people' that are so fried attention-span wise they cannot watch or participate in something longer than fifteen minutes without a second screen or some sort of fidget device. They are adults that can vote to boot.
>>21803969If you bake all the time then they are a godsend.If you bake once a month then dont bother.
>>21803977>microwavePut it above the stove>air fryerMeme. Its just a convection oven which you already own.>panini pressOkay, now you are just trolling.
>>21810759>I know better than generations of bakers who have mastered the craft over millennia
>>21811500>argumentum ad antiquitatemshiggy diggy
>>21811607>argumentum ad novitatem>shiggy diggy dookys
Useful as hell if you consistently bake, but definitely more for the casual hobbyist vs the pro baker. I make a lot of bread and desserts to I use it maybe once or twice a week>>21803977Keep yours in storage until you need it. My kitchen is tiny so I do this and then have to clear space if I want to knead on the counter
>>21811191Oh gosh, really?My bad!
>>21803969i found one on the streets (Bosch), just missing picrel.
>>21811607>faggot ad semendrinker
>>21811607You know there is a fallacy which is bringing up fallacies in arguments right?
>>21810803Hounding is not when people point out you're dumb. Try again little homo
>>21813051Arrrg, nigga
>>21803969I remember a thread like this so I'm popping in again to say DO NOT GET THAT GOD DAMN WOOD BOWL anyway they're good for a lot of things except heavy bread makingif you want a machine for good bread you're looking at spending over a grand for an industrial grade machine
>>21803969>give me the black pill on stand mixersJfc this thread againIt's like any other toolIf you know how to use it, it's greatIf you dont know how to use it, it's a very large paper weightIf you want to learn to bake, close the lid of your laptop and go get an entry level job at a bakeryAnd no I dont mean a cupcake factory that trucks in frozen shit 6 days per weekI mean a real, Viennese style bakery, making baguettes, bagels, maybe sourdough and sweet breads from scratchEvery dayBright and early at 3/4amOtherwise youre just a soccer mom watching youtube tutorials in your kitchen making garbage your family/friends pretend is okay to not hurt your feelings
>>21803969They will make you fat because you're going to bake more often.
>>21804122An impact wrench spins for like five seconds at a time, a mixer might go for ten minutes or more.
>>21810769it takes 30 to 45 minutes at the most.
>>21811500yeah we do. the only thing kneading does is speed up the process from 45 minutes to 5 or 10.
>>21804122
>>21817278>If you want to learn to bake, close the lid of your laptop and go get an entry level job at a bakeryWhat a stupid piece of advice. Probably the worst post in the thread and that's saying something.>hey you curious about baking? Yeah just upend your life moving and changing jobs to something that has you work shit hours for shit pay for yearsOP should in fact watch youtube tutorials and get the basics down and then decide if they want to take things more seriously, even if that makes an anonymous loser unhappy for some reason. Doing what you suggested is fucking retarded.
>>21805367I've made ice cream with it and it turned out very nice. But it is basically what you said, if you are not into baking, it hogs a fuckton of space in your counter.
>>21820671i leave mine in my panrty
>>21820671It stay on top of a cabinet or somethingyoure mad if you keep it on your counter (unless you really do use it that often)
>>21804039I know people post this to troll, but there genuinely are a lot of people like this and it makes so, so fucking mad. Yes, I admit it. Everything has to be a video now and then these cretins watch the videos at 2x because even they know that it's a waste of time. It's so fucking gay that I have to be a stereotype and be angry about things getting worse, but they absolutely are, especially if people become too lazy to read.
>>21803969I really only use it for brioche, challah, and other breads where you have to integrate fat into the the dough which can take ages by hand. I'll also use it for whipping cream / egg whites though a hand mixer can do that it's just a bit more convenient in a stand mixer.
>>21804122This is an interesting question. However only the tilt models use the plastic gears. The lift models are all metal.
