You're going to get cravings mostly from refined sugar so if you're liable to give into cravings definitely stay away from ice cream. When I quit smoking I ate like a half gallon of ice cream every day for a month so I know how it is. Popcorn should be fine.

Your chosen foods should serve you well. Add some nuts and berries. Also, try these

https://www.powerhungry.com/2022/02/02/easy-no-roll-almond-flour-crackers/

I make them all the time. They're super easy and I love them.

snacks have become such a foreign concept to me. whenever I get hungry I just reheat some of whatever I last cooked. maybe try eating ice cubes too.

>>21813045
You should stick to the highest quality, fewest ingredient ice cream if you’re going to try keeping it in your life.
A better alternative could be whole fat Greek yogurt with honey.
Are rice cakes supposed to satisfy a specific crunchy craving or something? They have always been so horrible to me, never worth it.

>>21813045
Can you not snack? lol

I'm a former fat too and I regret it. I can't eat copious amounts of junk without feeling like garbage. Or copious amounts of anything.

>>21813045
>Homemade French fries
>home made burgers
homemade doesn't imply healthier. if you add a ton of mayo to your burger it's going to add a lot of calories and not be really healthy. french fries aren't really unhealthy because they're highly processed but because they just soak up a lot of refined oil. o

>>Ice cream
yogurt would probably be a better alternative. plain yogurt with some berries and even a little honey or sugar would be fine and probably fill you up more with less calories.

popcorners don't seem too bad.

do you eat fruit? fresh fruit is a decent snack and helps control weight because it's full of fiber and water. eat more fruit and vegetables and less processed junk food and you'll probably lose weight without having to put too much effort in.

>>21813045
I find that when I force myself to eat fruit when I crave sugar I'll eventually start actually craving fruit instead of junk food after a few days.

>>21813045
Just eat a shitload of celery, it's crunchy

>snacks

Why not try just three meals a day? Change literally nothing else about your diet except cutting out snacks and see how much weight you lose. Then when you adapt to that get rid of any calories you drink (soda, alcohol, energy drinks, etcc.).

You should focus less on eating foods you probably aren't going to enjoy and look into finding ways to cook foods you already like just with smaller portions.

>>21813045
>former
You fucking wish

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>>21813916
Ants on a log is classic.

>>21813938
it's better without the fucking raisins

>>21813958
Just log?

>>21813045
You basically want to avoid sugar and other short carbohydrate chains - which includes burgers (coz bread), and obviously ice cream and popcorners. If you REALLY want to lose weight, avoid carbs altogether except for a smallish set limit per day, ideally oats or something. You will get cravings; if you don't give in they will eventually go away.

The standard problem with this kind of diet is that if you cheat it backfires. People come up with all kinds of nonsense fad diets but lipogenesis is well understood by actual factual biologists. If you're going to include ice cream and other junk food, you're gonna need to eat less overall.

>>21813322
Fruit is nearly as bad honestly. Take vit C tablets and eat some nuts or something.

>>21813045
just have a healthy diet, eat 2 meals a day + breakfast (1 very light meal 2 "full" meals, balance however you want), then on firdays or saturdays you can have some slop, like tendies, or whatever

>>21814474
Having your slop well spaced away from your regular eats is not a terrible idea.

You should learn to appreciate fruit yogurts,fruit juices and perhaps protein bars,I like the coconuts and forest fruit ones but of course be wary because 250 calories for 12 or 15 grams of protein isn't exactly a healthy snack,learn to count macros and enjoy movement

>>21814480
Again - fruit is just fructose plus water plus vit C. It's good for avoiding scurvy, that's about it. Fructose is a monosaccharide.

As a never fat, I probably have uniquely good insight. Snacks are not really that good usually, but I can give advice anyway.
>Sugar free beef jerky
Never heard of such a thing before. If it's teriyaki it has to have sugar. I prefer spicy in general. Don't measure anything but the salt and meat since it's the only two ingredients that matter. Anchovy, fish sauce, worcestershire, soy sauce, msg, yeast. Pinch/squeeze/dash/shake/dab of each. Mushroom powder, liquid smoke, multiple chili powders and hot sauces. Jerky is like the one time you want to have like 100 ingredients in it. Coriander, clove, go through the whole spice cabinet one by one. Add everything except sugar and you're there. Kitchen sink principle.
>cheese
Good, but it's kind of like saying meat or vegetables. It's an ingredient that's good enough to eat alone but is better if made into something.
>rice cakes
Bad. Why do these even exist?
>Homemade French fries
Pain in the ass unless you are canning. If you are canning then drain, dry, and fry in animal fat. Lots of salt as soon as you you dump the basket. If not canning don't even bother, it's $2 for a bag of frozen fries at walmart. Same process of animal fat then salt. Not really a stack, more like a meal. Eat it with something else so it's less boring.
>home made burgers
73/18 or 80/20, don't salt until it hits the grill or pan. Use a lot. Toast buns with butter if grilling, burger grease if pan searing. Also a meal, not snack.
>Ice cream
Bad. Frozen custard uses eggs and higher cream percentage, denser, less entrapped air. Much better.
>popcorners
Never heard of it. Like popcorn? Handful of kernels in clarified butter over medium heat. Use meme salt like jalapeno salt, again use lots.
Consider dried fruit, mango or prunes are nice. Fresh fruit works too but is seasonal. Pickled anything, eggs, cucumber, okra, sausage. Boiled peanuts.

>>21814504
>As a never fat, I probably have uniquely good insight.
No, that's like... most people. And if you've never either lost weight or specifically learned about the subject that actually makes your insight worse.

>>21813045
>Former fat-ass here
there is no "former"
its permanent.

>>21814532
wrong

>>21814532
Don't despair, anon. It's no more permanent than say, heroin addiction. You can beat it.

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>>21813045
>home-made fries
Bake them at 425 with avocado oil (higher smoke point). Way better for you than deep frying. You can take it to a new level by drizzling truffle oil on them after baking.
>Home made burgers
Won't be too different than ordering one at a restaurant, but you get to control your fat/calories by the % leanness and toppings.
>Ice cream
Stay a mile away. That and chocolate are dangerous.
>Popcorn
It's actually a dieter's best snack option. Unsalted and unbuttered is harmless. Truffle oil again takes popcorn to a new level.

>>21814549
"Popcorner" is apparently not popcorn but some kind of corn-based chip sold by the packet. OP ought to avoid any shit like that on general principle.

>>21814538
To that anon's credit the tendencies and cravings are permanent. Like the same way a "recovered" meth or heroin remembers the good ol' days. Or they try to sublimate junk food flavors by cleverly combining various spices and artificial sweeteners.

I maintain a balance with intense exercise most mornings to get a good heart rate and metabolism going for the day.

Also you don't need a high smoke point for fries, honestly. Just parboil them and then rapeseed will do. A dieter doesn't want unnecessary faff.

>>21814553
Good for you, anon. Not sarcasm.

>>21814550
Oh I thought that was a typo ROFL. Yeah chips aren't a good idea. Baked lays are the only ones I'd say are okay to munch, but moderation is key.

>>21814557
Oh, good idea! Noted. I'll try that next time.

>>21814529
Most people are always fats. By never fat I mean most of my life underweight. If you want to be skinny that's easy, copy my parents.
Be poor as shit and have eight kids. She's stay at home wife homeschooling. Be sure to pick a high stress low pay job; like cop, preacher, or truck driver. Work at least two of these simultaneously. Do construction and electrician work when it's available. Diet is easy. One meal a day. Spaghetti, garlic bread, hunts spaghetti sauce, ground beef. Or small red beans, sausage, trinity, thyme, sage, lots of cayenne served over rice. That's your staple meals two or three times a week. One expensive meal a week, usually either tenderized and breaded eye of round steaks breaded and fried with rice(add flour and water to the frying oil to make gravy for the rice). Or chuck roast with lots of potatoes and onions, served over rice with corn bread. Chicken fricasee over rice, serve with corn bread. Fried catfish and hush puppies, greens, and rice or spaghetti. Momslop isn't a precise meal, you just take rice, cream of whatever soup, and meat, mix and bake, add rotel if feeling fancy. There's ethnic meals too, burrito night was not uncommon. Ground beef, garlic, 1:2 ratio beef to refried beans, cumin, chili powder, more cumin, mix and serve on tortillas. Diced onion and diced tomatoes are optional side toppings. If it's a good finances week there'd also be cheese.
Great grandmother has great depression ptsd so no cornbread when she visits, substitute with drop biscuits. To shut the kids up about being hungry keep a few cases of instant ramen and a tube of quick oats. Drink only sweet tea or milk, the sugar content tricks the body into thinking it had a meal.
There were other common meals but you see a general theme. Starch + starch, cheap protein, lots of salt. Lots of tea and milk. For the most part you just don't eat because it's wasteful. That was for a meal, we don't have enough, we have to make it stretch.

>>21814469
>Fruit is nearly as bad
no it isn't. nobody has become fat from fruit.

>>21813045
First off I'd suggest trying to reduce snacking in general and do OMAD for awhile but until you can cut it out I understand the need for alternatives. I'd recommend taking fiber supplements throughout the day, especially before eating, as a method of feeling fuller/eating less. Also try to eat high fiber meals.

>>Sugar free beef jerky
Store bought jerky is very expensive and isn't the best for weight loss but isn't terrible either.
>>cheese
Okay in small portions but I highly recommend weighing what you eat so you don't fool yourself into thinking you ate an ounce or two instead of five.
>>rice cakes
Good low cal option but be mindful of the carbs. Calories should be your chief concern at the start of weight-loss anyway.
>>Homemade French fries
Home made isn't going to make much of a difference here. If you want to eat potato try to bake it instead of frying and dont add a bunch of high cal toppings or sauces
>>home made burgers
Fine if you go easy on the sauce and cheese, keep the beef lean in fat and small in portion, and try to use a lot of veggies in it.
>Also I know these following things are junk food but how processed/likely to make me crave more are they?
>>Ice cream
Definitely cut out ice cream. Instead get individual sized cups of 0% plain greek yogurt. Add some frozen mixed berries (or fresh, frozen is just easier to always have on hand) or a small amount of granola if you want to sweeten it.
>>popcorners
I'd recommend actual popcorn instead. Either way, avoid flavored popcorn snacks. Just get plain, salted, or salt and pepper. No butter/cheese/etc.

I'd highly recommend weighing everything you eat and tracking the calories religiously for while until you see results and become familiar with how much you can eat while still reaching your goals. Find some exercise to do (just do a small amount every few days and slowly do more if you are used to being sedentary all day). Remember, calories in, calories out. Good luck, anon.

>>21814621
I didn't see the "former" part of your op so disregard the weight loss stuff but the individual food feedback is more or less the same for maintaining a healthy weight.

>>21814557
>no need for oil to make french fries, just cut potatoes into batons, boil them, then pour vegetable oil on top and serve
First of all, vegetable oil has oil in it, and second: boiled potatoes are nothing like french fries.

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>>21813045
>How are these snacks/meals as healthy alternatives?
>Sugar free beef jerky
cured nitrate rich red meat isn't exaclty healthy, sadly you have to move it on cheat day.
>cheese
Most are a saturated fat bombs, avoid. Opt for low fat white cheeses like cottage cheese.
>rice cakes
Opt for low calorie rice waffles.
>Homemade French fries
Any fried food stuff, forget entirely. Look for oven "fried" potatoes. Healthier, lazier and works as a charm for most other veggies too.
>home made burgers
Sounds like a cheat day meal. Red meat is bad news for your cholesterol among other stuff. Mayo is overkill. You can look for lean meat patties and replace the mayo with a yogurt sauce (tzatziki would be great). Personally i dig black bean / lentil / chickpea patties but 4channers probably gonna find this too radical.
>popcorners
Packaged snacks are cheat day material. However if you invest on an air-popped corn machine, you will have a zero guilt snack.
>ice cream
By definition is a sugary saturated fat bomb, can't really be made healthy. If you feel adventurous and have non-shit food processor / blender, you can try frozen banana or frozen mango mock ice creams. They don't require any other ingredients, full of fiber and better digested sugars.

>>21814615
In terms of nutrients, fruit is like half fructose. You can say whatever you like about people not getting fat on fruit, but if you eat fruit and you eat fat, that is going to form adipose as rapidly or more rapidly as eating table sugar and fat. It's not a matter of opinion.

>>21814650
>no need for oil to make french fries, just cut potatoes into batons, boil them, then pour vegetable oil on top and serve
What in the fuck are you talking about? I didn't say anything like this. Are you retarded?

>>21814621
I fell for the fiber meme once. Never again. Kroger had those postmenopause old granny chocolate bars,barrenfiber, bereftiber, benefiber I think? Something like that. They were actually delicious. And filling, I could eat two and not be hungry for my 12 hour shift. Go home and have a few glasses of wine for supper before going to sleep.
I will now explain the joke. The premise is fiber makes pooping easier. I think pooping is unpleasant and gross, fuck yeah let's go. Three days without shitting, I'm unimpressed, that's normal. Five days, mild concern, I track my poops like psychotic counts track their menstrual cycle. Day seven wtf, but that must mean it's working, I feel great and spent 0 minutes sitting on the toilet.
The Reckoning: day eight and finally sigmoid rings rectum's doorbell. Special delivery, pass it down to Anus when you get a chance. I wake up hungover like usual. OK finally a normalish approach for night shift. Shit shave shower. I sits, but I don't shits. But there's poo in my butt so that's a problem. I wait and finally I start crowning at 3cm dilated. I bet it will plunk smooth no-ow ow, Ow, OWOWOW what the fuck I'm being unraped by the biggest filthy dick known to man. Plunk. A perfect spherical bowl, looks like a baseball but brown, complete with red stitching. Whups, gotta pee. Wait I'm peeing from my ass? And it's red? I wipe and it's a ghost dookie, not a trace of brown. Just fully saturated with red and some of it gets on my fingers. I never eat grannyshit granola bar again. The next two months bowel movement pattern returned. There's just a trickle of blood after the last squirt. Finally healed after that but fuck me. Would have been better off making crystals by putting a penny in a cup then bleach and ammonia and blowing bubbles through a straw to agitate the solution. I don't mean spotting when I say blood. Frank brood, red stream, then passing a couple of clots. Fucking wild. Definitely funny had it happened not me. It hurt.

>>21814664
>Also you don't need a high smoke point for fries, honestly. Just parboil them and then rapeseed will do. A dieter doesn't want unnecessary faff.
Boil potatoes, then add canola oil after(colander implied since you didn't call this a potato soup). That's what you said. That's not fries, that's a salad made with boiled potatoes and a seed oil dressing.

>>21814661
Fruit has fiber that slows down sugar absorption which prevents the rapid fat storage you see with table sugar. Even when eaten with fat, your body processes whole fruit slowly and efficiently, which is why there is zero clinical evidence of anyone getting fat from eating whole fruit. It's not a matter of opinion.

>>21814661
you're much less likely to overeat fruit and minimally processed fat sources to gain much weight compared to something with refined sugar and fat. you're talking about something that could theoretically happen, but doesn't really. fruit being full of water and fiber is going to limit how much you can eat. fruit and nuts will not cause the same kind of weight gain as cookies.

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>>21813938
You may as well just eat a few spoons of peanut butter at that point.

>>21814673
Fibre does not, strictly speaking and specifically, slow down sugar absorption per se. Rather, the more you eat, in proportion to the sugar you eat slows absorption. More or less. I admit some things are better for that than others and that I was exaggerating when I said it was akin to eating table sugar. It is not the case that the fibre in fruit "cancels out" the presence of fructose or that fruit does not raise your blood sugar level. If you're eating a ton of fat, don't pair it with fruit.

>>21814672
So yes, you are retarded. If you had bothered to follow the conversation, you'd know we were discussing parboiling the fries - it's a three syllable word, I know, but try to keep up - then baking them in oil.

>>21813938
I have no idea what the other slack jawed yokels replying to this post are huffing, always loved this.

>>21814701
>boiling and baking = frying
Lmao

>>21814614
Yeah yeah. I'm also poor and skinny. This is in no way useful advice for people who want to lose, or keep off, weight. And "most people" aren't always fat, you must be American.

>>21814718
Yes, to cook something in fat is to fry it. Per OED. Was there anything else you wanted to talk about or is that all?

>>21814669
I have normal shits, once a day. Sounds like a you problem.

>>21814669
>i subsisted on wine and highly processed food
>therefore, fiber is the problem

i just don't buy snacks. whenever i get a bag of chips i just eat the whole damn thing immediately. they even start tasting like shit after a few handfuls but i keep eating anyway. better just not buy at all. too dangerous.

Don't snack.

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>>21814906
Good advice.

>>21813045
>Homemade french fries
As other anons have said, don't bother with this, it's not worth the effort. Decent fries at home are a pain in the ass. You'll just end up buying frozen bags and regardless of cooking method those are nearly as bad for you as the drive thru.
INSTEAD just get a 5lb bag of potatoes and bake them. Replace any instance of french fries with hashbrowns, homefries, potatoes O'Brien. They also double as a convenient craving eraser. I'm not even fat but if I want junk food at night I'll just cram a cold baked potato plain, no salt no butter, and bam, I've avoided late night drive thru

>>21814469
>Fruit is nearly as bad honestly
Kek, good one!

>>21814945
>f I want junk food at night I'll just cram a cold baked potato plain, no salt no butter
That's tragic.
I don't see how hash browns or O'Brien are any healthier than homemade french fries, really.

>>21814953
>that's tragic
It works. I don't spend $20 on late night burritos or carne asada fries anymore
You don't see how a shallow pan fry is less unhealthy than a deep fry?
Also I never said it was significantly healthier, but that it's infinitely more convenient. The alternative is homemade french fries which is way less convenient than shredding/dicing a parbaked potato and throwing it in a pan with your eggs.
Like I said if convenience is of any value to you, you'll just end up buying frozen grocery store fries and those are inarguably worse than baking your own potatoes and doing whatever you want from there, eaten as is or further prepared

>>21814966
>You don't see how a shallow pan fry is less unhealthy than a deep fry?
I'm one of the anons who were discussing oven fries earlier, which TBF you couldn't have known. I'd say it's about equal.

Can't you throw some salt on your baked potato at least? I promise it's quite unlikely to shorten your lifespan.

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>>21813045
Saying no once on the grocery store is easier than saying no every time you pass the kitchen.

>>21815000
I could, but I'm out here trying to avoid hypertension, not lose weight

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>>21813045
Pickles are great for obliterating hunger without eating a lot. In a similar vein, cucumbers with lime and/or salt.

the enjoyment of food comes at the very beginning of the meal, the snack, etc. after the first few bites, some kind of biological instinct i won't pretend to understand kicks in, and your body keeps eating even if you are really tasting, enjoying, or even paying attention to any of it. thus, small portions are absolute best. if you are struggling to contain your cravings for junk, at the very least, eat less of it. portioning is the hardest problem when you eat at home, because you can always reach for more.

hot drinks are a good appetite suppressant in my experience. have a hot drink ready to go right after a meal, pour it and sip it instead of continuing to eat past the point when you know you should stop.

also: i once read that the body confuses thirst for hunger sometimes, and could adequately satisfy cravings by drinking instead of eating. i do not know how true that is, but when i prepare myself to eat, i always drink a ton of water before. it'll occupy valuable stomach space, at least. on that note: if you cut almost all drinks with water or tea, you would be doing yourself a great service.

i have maintained good health all throughout my adult life, so i cannot say any of this advice comes from having been fat. i am and always have been, however, terrified of being fat, so i still follow this advice as if becoming 300 pounds is right around the corner

>>21813069
>Are rice cakes supposed to satisfy a specific crunchy craving or something? They have always been so horrible to me, never worth it.
Same, anything puffed I’ll just mindlessly eat.

>>21815322
>Pickles
Agree they’re great, this or sipping on a cup of hot broth really tamp down the cravings.

>>21815344
>when i prepare myself to eat, i always drink a ton of water before
This is also a good tactic. Also I find if I wake up at night “hungry” then half a glass of water takes care of it

>>21813045
It's so hard to empathize with junkies. You don't need fucking replacements for the poisons you used to kill yourself with. Just eat normal food, not "insane poison slop but this time we removed the poison - promise"

>>21813045
Hey anon, current fat ass here. I ate a whole bag of salt water taffy yesterday and my jaw hurts.

>>21813045
True

>>21816046
>It's so hard to empathize with junkies
Being able to identify with people whose experiences are UNLIKE your own is what empathy is. If you can only relate to people just like yourself you're a shitty self-centred person.

>>21816046
imagine thinking it's a flex that you have no theory of mind

>>21813938
Absolutely delicious

>>21814504
>As a never fat, I probably have uniquely good insight
You have the most useless insight actually

>>21814901
>>21814906
This is probably the realest advice. If you're trying to lose weight or fighting an upward creep, snacking is just a losing proposition. The satisfying snacks will all surprise you with their calorie counts and you'll probably still want the same size meal as usual later

>>21813045
Eat a very salty food. It makes you always full.

>>21813045
>former

>>21814661
An entire orange is like 80 - 90 calories. You'd have to eat a fuck ton of fruit to gain weight unless you're eating dates.

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>>21813045
If you were really a "former" fatass, you already know what to do because you did it. You think you can eat burgers and fries because making them yourself is healthy? Not by much. You're avoiding chemicals but not calories.
Healthy alternatives... lol I'd swear you're trolling with that. Especially since you posted that same image a week or so ago saying you were hooked on junk food and needed to lose weight.
Seems a little suspicious.

>>21818827
This. And it also helps to eat food that satisfies you enough so you don't want to snack at all. For me that was eliminating carbs. On no carbs I eat once and am full for 6-7 hours. On carbs I'm hungry like every hour. Just my experience, but when I figured it out I felt like I split the atom. I'll have a carb treat now and then. I've just conditioned myself to find it gross though for the most part.

>>21813045
Nothing to add to what the other anons have said except to say that I sympathize. Modern society is so deliberately designed to leave us cracked out on sugar, fat and carbs that it’s very difficult to escape completely

>>21822344
>if you eat fruit and you eat fat
Not the calorie content of the fruit per se.

>>21822390
Calories are all that matter as long as you're getting proper nutrition. I lost 100 pounds decades ago just by watching calories and cutting out drinking. I still only weigh 160 pounds.

>>21822396
>only weigh 160 pounds
Me too. I drink like a sailor though
>Calories are all that matter as long as you're getting proper nutrition.
Fat and sugar are in fact nutrients
You can in fact lose weight from calorie restriction alone
I'm backing out of this argument, it's dumb. Congratulations on your weight loss, I'm happy for you.

>>21822403
Thanks anon. I just think it's silly to try to bash fruit when most fruits are rather low calorie, packed with vitamins, and make you feel fuller because they're filled with water. They're tasty, too. Apples and oranges are both about as calorie dense too so it's easier to count calories when you have either one with your meal. They're both around 80 - 100 calories give or take. I'd definitely avoid dates if you're trying to lose weight, though. Those can easily turn you into a fat ass.

>>21813048
I am trying to quit currently, why the hell do I crave sugar so much when I stop smoking or drinking?

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>>21813045
Dude, skinny people don't snack. I'll eat a banana or a handful of nuts between breakfast and dinner and that's it. When I get a box of chocolates as a present, they last me two months, because one every other day is enough.

>>21823246
I'm underweight and I've eaten like three bags of potato chips every day for the last couple of weeks at least

>>21813045
Burgers can be healthy if you use the right toppings, but fries are never going to be healthy no matter how hard you try.
The people saying "don't ever snack" are wrong, you just need healthier snacks that aren't as moreish. I recommend mango jerky personally (a lot tastier than it sounds I promise, it's good dried fruit).
Also normal popcorn is a lot healthier than you'd expect, it's the butter and salt that's unhealthy. The actual popcorn itself is obviously literally just corn.

>>21823282
>moreish

>>21823305
what?

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>>21823265
Then you're active enough to burn it off, I'm sitting on my ass all day, between a desk and the car. Or snacking on chips is affecting how much of the real meals you're eating.

>>21823420
Some people actually can eat like starving rats, sit on their ass all day, and stay skinny. It's not fair but it's true. Usually comes back to bite them once they hit middle age.