what is "whole food" anons?does cooking food make it processed and not whole?bread can be whole wheat or baked at a bakery but it would still not be whole, that doesn't make a lot of sense, i like bread is it bad? should i only be eating oats instead..
>>21815037Whole foods is a general term to avoid ultraprocessed garbage. You can mince onions for a dish and they are no longer "whole" but no less healthy.Bread as a category is fine for you if you're not a diabetic letting his sugar run out of control and losing limbs, just do things in moderation so you don't end up in such a scenario. Some bread is better than others, of course. If the ingredient list is a mile long and your "bread" has enough preservatives to be usable a month after you buy it then it's not one of the better breads for you.
>>21815037Yes.Peeling a banana makes it processed and bad for you.
>>21815066i dont think im diabetic, but i have pretty bad anxiety to the point of being nauseous sometimes and itll make my blood sugar go up to prediabetic levelsi just got some foccacia from my local bakery today, but thats more of a treatmaybe oats would be better than bread but they are so bland
>>21815201Eat homemade fermented foods. It can help with diabeetus type issues. Sauerkraut is an easy one. You just shred cabbage add 2% salt by weight, mix it up until it releases lots of juice, pack it into a jar so the brine covers the cabbage, wait 3 weeks.
>>21815209i dont have it often and it's usually not bad enough to raise my blood sugar that high, my usual stuff is between like 80-95 i think, but i havent looked at the test results in agesi just get really stressed and cant calm down at all so it's more a mental issue that a food oneis sauerkraut/cabbage good because it's got a ton of fiber and stuff?
>>21815037Take your autism meds
>>21815294im not autistic, is bread a whole food? its a big piece of food
A “whole” food is just an uncut food. If you eat a cake it’s a whole food. If you cut it then it’s a slice of cake because it is no longer whole. Pretty fucking simple, m8.
Spelling it "whole" is a common misconception. It's hole food if it fits in your hole.
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>>21815037>>21815733Weird, I always thought that whole foods were donuts, bagels, cheerios and the like.
>>21815066>You can mince onions for a dish and they are no longer "whole" but no less healthy.I think that would be considered whole, but technically processed since it was altered but nothing was removed.
>>21815037Avoid enriched wheat sprayed with pesticides. Einkorn is what people believe we ate 10k years ago, but it's $50 for 10 pounds which nets you about 5-10 loaves of bread. For that price you might as well buy meat.
>>21815800interesting, though i am not super autistic about eating exactly what primitive humans ate, i do not buy any sandwich breaddoes the bread from the bakery also use enriched flower? i hear people talk about whole wheat bread and white bread but neither look like the bread i buy from the bakery
>>21815066>Ultraprocessed To me it's all processed food. Processed being food that has any addatives to stabilize it, colorize it or in general change it's natural state. Sure you could argue milk turned into butter is processed, but imo it's just another state of milk. >Whole foodNatural food simple as.
>>21815037Something like Dave's Killer 21 Seed Bread will be more "whole" than the $1.09 white bread. My mom used to mill wheat germ and make oatmeal molasses bread totally from scratch when we were little. It was the best bread I remember ever having. But it was still chewy, glutenous bread. And that's something I just need to limit as an adult or I will eat too much and gain weight. Whole foods just means for the most part you're cooking without a lot of processing and chemicals or preservatives. Think getting a fresh chicken and potatoes and vegetables, all whole, and breaking them down and cooking them into a dish. Chances are it's just food and some herbs and spices at the end. Nothing was frozen or adulterated with miles of stabilizers and such. Conversely eating a mcChicken or something is the complete opposite of the spectrum. The chicken, the breading, the ingredients in the bun and sauce.. you're up over 100 things mixed in there. Does that make it simpler? As much as wheat flour may have been processed, when you bake your own bread it's just yeast, water, salt, flour. Maybe a little honey or sugar with the yeast. Very simple.
>>21815976Yes, they use enriched flour for any white breads like sourdough or baguette. You can ask. Many hippie bakeries exist and they really strive to use the most "whole" of foods when they can. But bleached flour is always enriched.
>>21815037just think of it as a spectrum. generally the closer a food is to its original condition, the better, some degree of processing is always fine and there are always exceptions like fermentation which is generally good for you, but it's a decent rule of thumb if you don't want to drive yourself crazy with pseud nitpicking like "hurr is COOKING processing? should i be eating everything RAW? is CUTTING processing?"this is the way i think about it: a roast is usually equal or better than a meatball which is usually better than ham which is usually better than salami which is usually better than a hot dog, etc.another decent rule of thumb is, when you look at an ingredients list, do you understand what the ingredients are? do you at least understand most of them? again, there will be exceptions, like when something says "ascorbic acid", that's just vitamin c by another name, but it sounds scary. but in general it's a good rule of thumb to look out for labels which feature simple ingredients you can understand.
>>21815990for an example of processed stuff, butter is technically processed, and you can process it again to turn it into a better cooking oil, but that shouldn't make it bad for you i think, you can process again to make ghee even, but these things can be done at home im pretty sure, so is it really ultra processed?>>21815994i think it may be some sort of hippie bakery, to be honest the ingredients sort of confuse me, they use>Spelt Flour, Hard Red Spring Flour, Glacier Peak Flour, Water, Liquid Sifted Wheat Levain, Salt.for my favorite kind of bread to get>>21815800To the Einkorn anon, they are selling Einkorn loaves apparently, so I will try it
Whole food is the astrology equivalent of food. Theoretically it could provide something of value but in reality it's for marketing toward extreme retards through positive reassurance.
>>21816085This, I trust the science and big corporations have made food tasty and convenient by processing food into cute geometric shapes that will last in my pantry for years.
>>21816085i heard eatin bread is bad anyway because it makes you diabetic and fat and dead of heart disease
>>21816326Romans lived off bread while drinking wine sweetened with lead acetate because nobody thought to use honey or invent sugar yet. Eating rats was the height of culinary indulgence, or pigeons. They had to ban eating rats because it was sumptuary and the prices for one could be obscene if it was especially fat. For pigeons they break their legs and wings and foccefeed them. Probably ate bugs and shit too but I haven't encountered records of this yet. Anyway you see the frescoes and statues and despite eating nothing but bread and random vermin washed down with wine they were jacked to the gills. They even had cool dipping sauces, like fish guts left to rot in a barrel for a year.
>>21815990>colorize itWould adding beats to a soup to make it red and then fishing them out at the end count?
>>21815037OP, it is a term only. It's a form of Eat This, Not That to say to you to avoid processed foods as much as _possible_.Is the bread homemade or has a short list of ingredients of just flour, yeast and salt? Yay. Is the flour enriched with vitamins and the list isn't much longer than that? Yay.Tell us your health issues or fitness and health goals and someone can likely elaborate your problem with terminology more specifically. For instance, if you have migraines.
>>21815257>i just get really stressed and cant calm down at all so it's more a mental issue that a food oneSounds like you need depression/anxiety medication, especially if you think stress affects blood sugar and you don't have coping tools to calm yourself down. This is your scientific answer.
einkorn bread and my cat linked upkneed it or keep it?>>21816548no i dont think that would be good, i just have health anxiety mostly
>>21815201Get some pills for that anxiety bud. No shame in needing some help.
what the fuck is this threadWhole Foods is a grocery stoream I the only human on this board
>>21816963give the cat some cheese or something
>>21817241she loves cheese but she is banned from getting food ever since she dragged the compost onto the floor
>>21815117It makes the peel bad for you. As long as the core fruit remains whole it's still good. But if you slice it into pieces for PB & Banana sandwich, then it's processed and bad for you.
>>21816973>>21816963For what it’s worth, there is a connection between high blood sugar and anxiety/anger. Like, your blood sugar going high can cause stress in the form of anxiety or anger. Not common knowledge yet, but becoming studied more closely
>>21817480im not really sure what was up the few times it has happened, but it's usually just me reading something and then thinking i have cancer or heart disease and im going to die and then just being very high anxiety for a few days until i find some way to calm downim just not sure what the deal is because i dont have diabetes levels of blood glucose normally and even the elevated levels were a bit below what counts as hyperglycemia
