I fucking love smashing microplastics into my meat!!!
>>21816243Just do it without the plastic.
>>21816243Why would you do that? I hope you don't think what the picture shows results in plastic getting into the meat. That's so dumb. You seem to think whenever food touches plastic the plastic sheds into the food. You people are completely schizo. >>21816246No. The meat can fly around.
>>21816243That's why I don't trust tengas.
>>21816248>You seem to think whenever food touches plastic the plastic sheds into the food.Thats exactly what happens.You are schizo if you think leaching doesnt occur.
>>21816272NTAThe other anon is correct, too many kiddies get hysterical over this and posting silly things from wikipedia doesn't prove anything. except how gullible you are.For example - How long is a length of time? When 'experts' do their 'studies' it could weeks or months. Any microplastics in your system will be from dust . . . .from the clothes you wear, carpets, bedding, etc.Calm down kiddo, a bit of tupperware or cling-film is not going to kill you.
>>21816288That other anon thinks leaching doesnt happen at all which is not correct.No one knows the health risks so your certainty that its insignificant is just your feelings.
>>21816288>posting silly things from wikipedia doesn't prove anythingFuck you, any basic AI search will be more reliable in showing the current state of conventional knowledge on the subject than your silly feelings, as they usually come with sources.>Given global usage of plastic, exposure to micro- and nanoplastics is inevitable. However, consideration of utensils, cookware and equipment usage and placement in the domestic settings may be useful in reducing exposure. While microplastics have been detected in a range of food items, with the underlying assumption that the microplastic comes from the food, packaging or airborne contamination, we highlight that the choice of preparation, storage, serving, cooking and cleaning materials in our kitchens are also substantial contributors. Mechanical, physical, and chemical processes are the predominant factors driving the generation of micro- and nanoplastics from plastic materials during food preparation. The release of micro- and nanoplastics may be influenced by myriad factors, including material quality, forces applied, temperature and material type, age and integrity. For example, exposing non-stick and plastic cookware to high temperatures can release toxic fumes, degradation of the plastic and migration of plastic leachates into food. Similarly, microplastics can be released from the inner surface of food containers during freezing and thawing cycles. The ageing and manufacturing processes of utensils can significantly influence the release of microplastics, with extended use and wear increasing the likelihood of malformations, cracking and oxidization of the plastic. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11336334/
>>21816353>, any basic AI search will be more reliable in showing the current state of conventional knowledgeYou are far more gullible than I thought, if you think Wikipedia or Ai search is reliable, you zoomer kiddies are just beyond stupid.Just looking through the rubbish you posted:>However, consideration of> may be useful in reducing> underlying assumption that> may be influenced by> can be>significantly influence> increasing the likelihoodGrow up kid.
>>21816288This concludes our Retarded Boomer Take of the Day segment.
>>21816243use paper then.
>>21816243that's not how microplastics work, anon.plastic doesn't just break off tiny molecules.microplastics come from plastic being worn down by nature and making their way into the water supply.you do know that plastic has been around since 1862, don't you?
>>21816272>chemicals from the plastic are the same as the plastic itselfanon...
>>21816243The plastic keeps the cutting board and hammer cleaner between tasks, and also adds "slip" to the process, but it utterly not needed. A breast can be butterfield, cut into cutlets, and lightly pounded without it. You do you.
plastic is in literally everything now. You cant escape it and someday human assholes will evolve into 3D printers.
>>21816243>he doesn't put paper towel between the plastic and the meat to simultaneously prevent this and dry out its surface for better seasoningngmi
>>21816243Just eat it raw. Oh you eat rotten meat that needs to be heavily seasoned and cooked to death like shitskins do because otherwise its inedible and causes even more liquid shits than you normally have? COULDNT BE ME NIGGER
zoomers really are terrified of everything aren't they?
>>21816639Do you at least wash your chicken in a delicious bleach and vinegar solution?
I do it with a towel
>>21816288Dumb fucking retard
>>21816371AI is 100% more reliable than your arrogant boomer opinions.Your source = your ass, and its full of shit.
>>21816288Zoomers can't do nuance or grey-state thinking. It has to be black and white extremes, or extremely anal retentive pissantry about minor irrelevancies, otherwise it's not fair or like some kind of lie or some shit. The latter example you can see right now.Don't see much longer for our societies with this current stock of new humans bro
>>21817268lmao retard zoomer
>>21817286lmao microplastic infused boomer with turbo cancer
>he thinks that will stop themThe microplastics won get over it
>>21816243With cling film aren’t there more dangerous chemicals than the plastic component? Like the stuff that makes it stretch and be clingy
>>21816243Wear cotton clothing and stop worrying so much about this shit. It's mostly coming from tires anyway, support walkable city designs, investment in public transport, and green policies in general.
>>21816306No, he said plastic won't shed into the food from mere contact with cling wrap. The AI chatbot saying chemicals from plastic can migrate is not the same as shedding whole plastic molecules into the food. Plastic wrap is made of PVC, which is just polymers made of carbon. What harmful chemicals are being leached if whole plastic molecules aren't being shed?
>>21816243Just put the meat in a baking tray, set it on the ground, and have your petite wife step on it with her girl feet. This tenderizes but also has the effect of pre-seasoning
>>21818085>Not all plastic wraps are the same—PVC-based wraps are more likely to leach chemicals than non-PVC types like low-density polyethylene (LDPE) or polypropylene (PP). PVC (polyvinyl chloride) often contains plasticizers such as phthalates or DEHA to improve flexibility, which can migrate into food, especially fatty or acidic foods and when exposed to heat.
>>21816443>>21816890Ad Hominem is not an argument
>>21816272>asking A.I. and then posting it as evidence to support your schizo claims. LOL
>>21816288Oh I'd maybe trust Wikipedia. That's some chatbot shit right there.
>>21816288This. They never even post any alternative. Like what do we do now? Buy wooden and glass containers? LOL Plastic is everywhere and these fucking idiot twentysomethings who believe everything they see online are not themselves doing anything to avoid it. >enjoy your microplastics!!Yeah? You too. Because you can't do jack squat to ingest any less of it than I do, and I fucking microwave my food in plastic baggies after I stored it in Tupperware after I cooked it on TEFLON in SEED OILS. And I was eating SWORDFISH filled with MERCURY. And I sauced it with MSG!!! I'm gonna DIE!!! OH NO!!
>>21817942>dangerous chemicalsNope, I buy it at the grocery store legally.
>>21818171Meds, grass, sex. In that order.
>>21818195>>21818204>plasticmaxxers in denial
>>21817272i can't tell if they're actually like that or if they're just so poorly socialized they can't handle minor disagreements and turn everything into arguments they can 'win' to protect their egos. they're like fucking children
>>21818200>Plastic is everywhereThen isnt that reason to minimize exposure?Storing your food in glass and avoiding it when possible is not that hard.Microwaving plastic wrapped food is easy to not fucking do unless you are totally ignorant of the health risk to begin with.
>>21818236>>21817272The zoomer and schizo ad hominems are weak cope.Just label the position you disagree with as coming from a zoomer then bitch how you think zoomers are dumb and wrong.Thats pathetic.
>>21818242I guess I'm just "totally ignorant of the health risk" then, in that I don't believe there is one. You're choosing to believe some shit that doesn't seem very solid to me. If it's true that it's prevalent everywhere in the water and air and in our pores and brains then I really don't think using Ziplock bags for sandwiches overnight or cryovaccing my steaks for the deepfreeze is doing any extra harm. I really don't. And if it is then the problem is already insurmountable. I'm in my forties. I've dodged a lot of bullets and I'm old enough that I don't go into a frenzy and start proselytizing everyone over some new age fear. If the general consensus is that something common is not dangerous, that's enough for me. I don't trust the pseudoscience nuts who are at the fringes warning me that the sky is falling. You can do all that if you like. I'm so sure you're going to add years to your life because of it.
>>21818236Yeah that is basically it from my experience.They over-react to ANY minor thing that isn't even a big deal. Disagree with someone on something? You cannot be friends and they have to make a huge deal of humiliating you or something or shunning you. It's so fucking shit
>>21817268>AI is 100% more reliable than your arrogant boomer opinions.At least their his own opinions instead of regurgitation whatever AI screen scrapped from reddit.
>>21818274This. That statement really smacks of ignorance and absolutism. A.I. is in its infancy and already dumb kids think it's infallible and more trustworthy than a knowledgeable adult.
>>21816272>AIShut the fuck up retard
>>21818189Not arguing, just stating facts.
>>21818313Someone needs to start doing his own research and stop trusting the so-called experts and elites.
>>21816243I'm already a polymer based lifeform at this point
>>21818325Haha, exactly. Why even fight it?
who the heck uses plastic wrap to beat their meat? what are you afraid of, STDs?
>>21818883STD's from who? Beating is a solo practice.
>>21818890exactly
>>21818303>>21818274>>21818196>>21818195>>21818288You stupid dumbfucks, its simply a baseline of established knowledge.If theres info presented there thats incorrect then counter it.But you cant so shut the fuck up.
Here we have another retard scared of plastic. Meanwhile in Africa they fry their food in transformer oil yet look at the size and potency of their black cocks. I've seen guys with yard long black cocks dangling between their legs down there
>>21819004No it's not. AI just aggregates everything, not just "established" knowledge. It includes conspiracy theories and disinformation. All of which is constantly being defended as true, just like ITT.Half the world believes the opposite of what is happening these days. AI is not reliable at all. AT ALL. Especially on contended topics like these. There are enough lies online to throw off the balance and AI is nowhere near smart enough to parse the lies from the truth, especially when people can't decide. I don't need to specifically counter your chatGPT list of maybes. I'm sure if you "asked" a chatbot if seed oils were dangerous you could get it to tell you that's true too, and yet it's been debunked. And not a single schizo reads the debunking articles and budges from his delusions. Same here. I could go through the work and trouble to inform you differently, but it's too late. Deep down you believe the microplastic danger thing like religious people believe in their god. There's no shaking it out of you because it's emotional not cerebral. It's a mindset. You're likely afraid of several other things that normal people are not worried about. I knew a guy who went on and on about Aspartame. Same shit. We're all just fine!
>>21818200You're fucking stupid dude lmao
>>21819039If you were not a hypocrite you would see its simply establishing that leaching of toxic chemicals does occur and there is potential health risks which are unknown.You guys are schizos in the opposite direction absolutely certain it has no health risks based on your feelings.
>>21817268AI is just as fallible as the people who make it. That's what controls AI, programmersdumbass zoomer doesn't think critically, just parrots what they are told by machines
>>21819050No, it's more like there's definitely a microplastic problem, but shit like OP's pic and food storage in baggies and tupperware are not contributing to that. Whatever's in the air and water, there's nothing we can do. And that's more what you're reacting to. You're saying, "I CAN do something! I can stop buying food packaged in plastic and just avoid plastic around food!" But you really can't. You can't avoid that AT ALL. Perhaps you can alter your storage situation (enjoy your foil shavings!! j/k), but along the production line your food had plastic all up in it. >I'll just buy direct from farms and grow my own--No you won't. You can't. That's bullshit and you know it. This is all a pointless jerk-off session. I try to keep a pretty open mind about things, but whenever it's one of those 3% vs. 97% deals, I'm always going to trust the vast majority of experts. It's easy for guys like you to buy into enormous international conspiracies where everyone is paid and corrupt and compromised and only the select "noticers" are aware of the problem and everyone like me is a stupid sheep. But I wasn't raised by the internet. I got a real education and my critical thinking skills just don't allow for me to have that kind of paranoid thinking and powerful distrust. If any of these were serious problems causing major sickness and death we'd know about it. And that's where the crazy comes in. And I don't want to hear it.
>>21818257You can store shit in plastic, but don't heat stuff in it. Thats what that anon was saying, not too hard to understand. Plastic is more dangerous when heated because that's when it can leech into your food. Also avoid plastic cutting boards because chopping stuff on them can chop plastics off into your food as well. This is all not difficult knowledge to grasp. But if you don't give a shit, then go ahead and enjoy your microplastics like you said you do.
>>21819067You can try to mitigate things by filtering your water, growing what foods that you can and trying to stay away from ultra processed foods. Just because I can't fully prevent the malaises of modernity doesn't mean I won't try to lessen their effects on me.
>>21819074>>21819078Good luck with all that.
>>21816248It doesnt fly around, you dont have to beat your meat that hard.
>>21819066Strawman and zoomer ad hom, no where is it claimed its infallible.The info needs to be verified but its still a useful starting point.Obviously its a fallacy to say the info is wrong by virtue of it being AI generated.Not one person in the thread has refuted or countered it, just dismissing it by virtue of its source.
>>21816243I just press down on it with my palm and it works good enough
go full Gallagher witha wooden mallet
>>21819105Works for me.
>>21819067I accept your concession, libtard.
>>21819013This is your warped mind on Jewish space lizard porn. Go touch some grass buddy and get off the internet for a while, preferably for the rest of your life.
>>21820299There's nothing political in that post, but we already knew you were crazy. And now you have that frog there, so I'm sure anything you don't think is "based" is that work of a "libtard". You're very mature. And I'm sure it will be news to the conservative community that they're all fucking schizos who don't believe their doctors and are afraid of crazy shit like the meth aunts on facebook. They'll be thrilled that you're speaking on their behalf and adding your tinfoil hat conspiracies to their traditional family values identity. I guess you don't actually pay attention to any of the representatives you vote for. Next.
>>21816243>I fucking love smashing microplastics into my meat!!!that's what your mom said.
Weird how the new captchas are super easy on the phone but a pain in the ass on the PC. I just wrap all my food in freezer burn.
>>21816272>PO TEN TIAL!
>>21816353>any basic AI search will be more reliable in showing the current state of conventional knowledge on the subject than your silly feelingsoh my sweet summer child.AI said the best way to keep cheese from sliding off of pizza was to glue it on.stop being so gullible. modern AI isn't intelligent. it's just a really complicated and naive search engine.
>>21816443>I can't refute him so I will call him old.typical.
>>21820456
>>21816566>human assholes will evolve into 3D printers.
>>21818242I will not live in fear of bullshit.
>>21816248>I hope you don't think what the picture shows results in plastic getting into the meat.I would be shocked if repeatedly bashing thin, delicate plastic with a spiked hammer into soft meat doesn't imbed particles of said thin, delicate plastic into the meat.
>>21819004listen skippy... can I call you skippy? great.so skippy. I have tested AI responses to things I know to be true and accurate and it comes up with complete bullshit.hell go ask chatgpt to show you a seahorse emoji.unless they fixed it, it will fucking go in to a schizo mental breakdown.
>>21816243It's all rain now. It's in your balls already.
>>21820468It doesn't. Not once have I found holes in the plastic where it's broken away and disintegrated into the food. They don't even make food grade plastic sheeting that flimsy. And in a professional kitchen we're usually using parchment paper or thick freezer bags for that. Even if you used the cheapest film and the spike side of the hammer and do rip the plastic, it's not going to disappear into the food. It's not brittle. Are you serious? Have you never used this stuff at home? Microplastics come mainly from dumping garbage into the oceans. That's what I learned watching Nova. If you think foodservice film just shreds into confetti when it gets jostled around a bit you're sorely mistaken. But yeah, you aren't supposed to hammer at the plastic with the spikes. You flatten meat under plastic with the blunt face (like in OP's image) but you tenderize the meat directly with the spiked end. You don't even know how it works. No wonder you're scared of such things. Yet here I am actually educating you and you will choose not to believe it. I've pounded thousands of lbs of veal tenderloin for scallopine over the years and never gotten plastic in the food. You want to know an insider secret? For big prep jobs sometimes we use 50 gallon garbage bags to beat our meat. Just lay one out flat on the prep table and then arrange the meat in rows along the bottom. Easier than using anything else. Not food grade technically, but the plastic is even stronger.
>>21820449The liberal gaylord is still going lmao..get boosted ya crazy fruitcake :)
>>21820494You can't just reverse everything. YOU are the one believing shit that's officially not true. You're the crazy one. Rejecting boosters is crazy. And there are no partisan lines to be drawn between crazy and sane, but if there were it's not like the liberals would be the crazy ones. But it's not like that. 90% of just normal people trust their doctors. I have no idea why you think people who vote GOP are horse dewormer eaters and why you think THAT is sane. There are fucking retards on the fringes of both sides, but you'd upset a lot of conservatives by lumping yourself and your conspiracy bubble view of the world in with them. I know people on both sides and neither ascribe to any of your stupid beliefs. Just look at you. The frogs, the "alpha chad" bullshit memes. You're just an incel chud schizo. You're not a republican. lol You don't know the first thing about politics. And politics have nothing to do with your fringe extremist fears like microplastics and I'm sure seed oils. You fucking nut. You try and make this simple binary shit and then you put yourself on a fantasy side that makes no sense. Get off the internet and maybe read real books.
>>21820473Is that why my left nut always aches and has a clump in the veins?
>>21820492You don't know how microplastics work. Hint: "micro"plastics.
you should be mitigating any and all plastic contact with you, your home and your food as much as possible. they're finding it everywhere. babies now have microplastics in their stool. is it safe to assume the accumulation of this material in the body over the course of your life is benign?
Plastic only makes you a more superior, efficient being. Your weak organic bodies can only benefit from a little synthetic additions
>>21819105The info may not wrong but anons are misrepresenting it by saying any food touching plastic will be contaminated. When that clearly isn't the case. Storing a salad overnight in a plastic Tupperware won't kill you. People just take an AI summary and pass it off as gospel. >>21819080Keep on heating up plastic containers in the microwave, champ
>You can't just reverse everything. YOU are the one believing shit that's officially not true. You're the crazy one. Rejecting boosters is crazy. And there are no partisan lines to be drawn between crazy and sane, but if there were it's not like the liberals would be the crazy ones. But it's not like that. 90% of just normal people trust their doctors. I have no idea why you think people who vote GOP are horse dewormer eaters and why you think THAT is sane. There are fucking retards on the fringes of both sides, but you'd upset a lot of conservatives by lumping yourself and your conspiracy bubble view of the world in with them. I know people on both sides and neither ascribe to any of your stupid beliefs. Just look at you. The frogs, the "alpha chad" bullshit memes. You're just an incel chud schizo. You're not a republican. lolYou don't know the first thing about politics. And politics have nothing to do with your fringe extremist fears like microplastics and I'm sure seed oils. You fucking nut. You try and make this simple binary shit and then you put yourself on a fantasy side that makes no sense. Get off the internet and maybe read real books.
>>21816243Then use parchment, you fucking spastic bell-end.
>>21816248I'm pretty sure even living chickens can't fly.
>>21820492>>21820888Parchment paper can contain PFAS forever chemicals (to improve grease resistance and non-stick performance)
>>21818004>It's mostly coming from tires anywayfactual>support walkable city designs, investment in public transport, and green policies in general.they never will because microplastic schizos tend to be right-leaning and walkable cities are cucked libshit propaganda
>>21816243But that's not microplastics. Are you an idiot?
>>21822172>canThen buy the kind that doesn't. JFC, are you this goddamn hapless in everything you do? Fucking child.
>>21822328They are not always clearly labeled.Most non-PFAS parchment paper use silicone coating, but even then if overheated or of low quality then degradation can release siloxanes.>silicone can degrade and release siloxanes, synthetic chemicals linked to endocrine disruption, liver damage, reproductive issues, and potential carcinogenic effects.>The European Union classifies siloxanes as a Class 1 endocrine disruptor, highlighting concerns about their long-term health impacts.>when heated beyond its thermal limits—particularly above 392°F (200°C)—the polymer can begin to break down, potentially releasing volatile siloxanes. Some studies have detected the release of siloxanes like polydimethylsiloxane (PDMS) and polymethylhydrosiloxane (PMHS) when parchment paper was heated to 220°C (428°F) for extended periods.
>>21822371Why I use a cast iron to bake bread and pizza instead of parchment paper.And no, cast iron is not carcinogenic.
>>21822371I guess you're just SoL then. Too bad you're incapable of figuring this basic shit out like a normal person. Enjoy your unevenly cooked chicken.
>>21820456>AI said the best way to keep cheese from sliding off of pizza was to glue it on.That might just be crazy enough to potato!
>>21816243It turns out, people get the most exposure to microplastics by air, not water or food. They are in the air we breathe.
>>21816243You can literally just use butcher's paper for this instead.
>>21823289>people get the most exposure to microplastics by air, not water or foodSource this. Specifically that *most* microplastics exposure comes from the air rather than water/food, not just that exposure from air exists.
