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You may remember me from previous Papa Johns threads. We are bringing BACK the PAN PIZZA - as a PERMANENT FULL-TIME MENU ITEM (end of the month, limited rollout first)
it's actually very good

Pizza Hut can go fuck itself
If you were a fan of the recent Grand Papa and the new Caramel dessert, I'm afraid to say they are leaving (we should be keeping the caramel blondie, it's really good and nixxing it is a mistake)

AMA
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>>21829200
How's business these days?
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>>21829204
Sales are down overall in terms of like, money. But interest is up, and we're going through a kind of reformation period where a lot of dead weight is getting cut and standards are being reinforced.
Remember back in like 2010-is when Dominos did their whole apology tour saying "we know we suck we'll try harder" in their commercials? We're basically doing that without the commercials.
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>>21829207
just to add to this I pitched the tagline "You Deserve BETTER" (as in BETTER ingredients, BETTER pizza etc.)
or alternatively
"We'll do BETTER"

seems the idea was well received, but not the actual language
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our sauce recipe is also changing
I don't know the new ingredients yet though but it should be a new sauce
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>>21829200
>AMA
Have you considered buying an ad?
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>>21829225
I make these threads maybe once every few months and it's fun to talk to other people who are intersted in how these chain fast food places work
I don't get paid for any of it I'm just a bored GM
and ideas from these threads have sometimes manifested IRL because I know they pay attention
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I tried the barbecue steak and bake thing you recommended. It's good. I would order it again to share with someone that likes pizza-that-tastes-like-other-thing, but probably not otherwise. It would be better as a sandwich: "barbecue bacon cheesesteak" should be a thing.

More importantly, though, Papa John's thin crust, well done, is surprisingly legit.
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>>21829200
have you considered forcing your employees to do a dance for every tip they get
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>>21829240
You remembered that? I'm honored, it's a really good recipe right?
>It would be better as a sandwich: "barbecue bacon cheesesteak" should be a thing.
Well the Papadia isn't going anywhere so maybe somebody will see this idea and decide it's a good combo
BBQ Bacon Cheesesteak is kind of up for interpretation, y'know? What would actually be on that?
>More importantly, though, Papa John's thin crust, well done, is surprisingly legit.
I tell everybody I can that the Thin Crust is better, it objectively is
>>21829246
>have you considered forcing your employees to do a dance for every tip they get
Never
What kind of dance would you even do for a pizza?
maybe that is something that would work at a mexican restaurant
cha-cha-cha
there is no pizza cha-cha-cha
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I actually got to try both the grand papa pizza and the salted caramel blondies over the holidays, both very good. The grand papa pizza had a nice thin crust and the blondies had chunks of salt on them which made them taste pretty savory especially after eating pizza.
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Pan pizza is the only kind worth getting at the dogshit-quality level of pizza where Papa Johns and other no effort chains sit. I'll try it at some point, I enjoyed it last time they had it on offer way back.
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>>21829200
i've only ever eaten papa john's when my wife's work orders some and she brings some home.
i have zero desire for it, ever.
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>>21829273
yeah I'm sad to see them go
they'll probably be back as a seasonal item next fall/winter again I would bet
>>21829288
yeah I've tried it myself and it really is pretty good
it's only available as a Medium (12") I think, but it has the toppings of a Large (14")
I thought it might be too doughy but it's not
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>>21829291
yeah our stuff doesn't sit well
>ordered at work
>brought home
so it's been room-temp for like an hour at least
that's obviously not going to be any good
you HAVE to reheat it in an Oven
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>>21829220
Any sense of what their intention is with the new sauce? PJ sauce always tasted too sweet to me so I’d usually get light or no sauce
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>>21829296
>having to reheat pizza when pizza is literally known for being great cold
you guys really gotta work on that "better" part.
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>>21829300
I thought the idea was to make it less sweet but from everything I can tell it's the same sauce, ingredient-wise. The ratios might be different. I don't have a very good palette.
>>21829301
You misunderstand. There is a middle ground. Hot pizza is great.
Cold pizza is also great
luke-warm pizza is disgusting
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>>21829307
>luke-warm pizza is disgusting
incorrect.
you guys gotta work on that "better" part, start there.
pizza should be fucking fantastic no matter the timeframe.
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>>21829312
Well, you're not wrong
as I said initially we are refocusing on standards

If it was up to me, we'd be doing ONLY that, and REDUCING the menu instead of expanding it
but you know how it goes
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When I was in school, my go-to weed connection was this really horny, gay homeless guy named Cliff. He used to repair fridges, back when he could still walk, but now he sold flower and coke by the bus stop next to our Papa John's. He also had no teeth, and if you were a guy that was buying something off of him, he would flutter his eyelashes up at you and offer to give you a gummer for twenty bucks. So whenever a friend of mine let me mooch some pot off of him, I always asked if he got it by letting Cliff suck him off.
>"I know you got pot, nigga. Cliff didn't zip you up today."
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>>21829316
hire people above college age for $20/hr. and your standards will go through the roof because your workforce will actually be replaceable at that price point.
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>>21829200
When did they cancel it? It was the signature.
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>>21829325
I'm not in charge of the economy
I wish everybody could be making more money
>>21829327
It's never been a permanent item, it hasn't been around for a few years at this point actually
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>>21829260
>Papadia
Now there's a thought. I just tried to put one together like that on the web ordering thing to pick up for lunch if I get hungry enough but it crapped out on the toppings limit. I guess no onions for me.

>BBQ Bacon Cheesesteak is kind of up for interpretation, y'know? What would actually be on that?
Barbecue sauce and bacon on a cheeseteak isn't too hard to imagine:
BBQ sauce
Bacon
Gooey cheese
Onions
Maybe green peppers or roasted red pepper strips
Cheesesteak meat
Toasted sub roll

If I were doing that at home, I'd fry the bacon and onions (peppers too, but I'd go light there) and steak-umms together, but that might be too much of a good thing. Might need to cook the bacon separately. I'm more of a provolone than a cheez whiz guy. I'd use a less sweet BBQ sauce than Papa John's, and go light on the sauce and bacon.

I just realized this is sort of like the slightly gross "western" cheeseburger with barbecue sauce, bacon, and an onion ring which, well, everyone should try at least once but no one should order in front of other people if they're over 15. But I think the cheesesteak flavor really makes it.
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can you make a pizza called the Papa Oom Mah Mow Mow, Papa Oom Mow Mah Mow
Pa-Papa
https://youtu.be/5amnnn-HVUA?si=IombCcUVAeBz3MCC&t=84
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One time in high school, i got extremely high with friends and came home to my parents asking if i wanted papa john’s. Of course i said yes, they place the order, we get it, and I’m still extremely high.
We all start eating, it’s like best pizza I’ve ever had! Feels like I’m eating that caring pizza that’s completely unrealistically gooey, having an amazing time.
My parents start talking about it tasting funny though, asking if my pizza is weird. I’m all in on my pizza being great, talking it up, and they eventually look at theirs.. and start saying it’s raw.
So i look at mine
And it’s definitely raw! The cheese was melted but definitely not baked all the way.
Best pizza i ever had desu
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>>21829200
I will try it but I doubt it will be better than Domino's. On a side note I finally tried Jet's and it was worse than Little Caesars Detroit style deep dish.
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>>21829260
I like turning frozen pizza into papadias instead of buying them.
I’m also glad to hear you don’t want to be mean to your employees <3
I’m usually very mad at shills but you come across more human. Maybe because you’re not part of the marketing department?
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>>21830201
*CARTOON PIZZA
Not caring, god damn it
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>>21829207
You deserve to get fucked, I'll never forgive you.
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>>21830186
if we could get the rights to it I would 100% support this
on the condition that the customer has to say the full name when ordering it, and employees must repeat the full name of the item back when confirming that order
at every step of the process
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>>21830209
Yeah I have no relationship with marketing or anything high up like that, I'm just a GM who likes to make these threads to talk to people and find out what they like or don't like about our stuff. Some good suggestions and criticisms always pop up.
Full disclosure though, of course I WANT sales to go up. When sales start going down and keep staying down, first peoples hours start getting cut, then you start losing your best employees, then your location gets straight-up shut down and everyone loses their job or has to transfer to a store that's maybe still close enough for them to commute.
So if I can help drum up a little interest, I'll do that, but it's not my primary goal with these threads at all.
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>>21829207
There is something in the papa johns dough that upsets my stomach
Idk how you can change that
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4 year Panago driver jumping in again for any Canadians reading the thread
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>>21830509
I had a really good pizza from a popular chain in Canada when I was there I forget if it was you guys or not
I would have to look at a list of Canada specific pizza chains
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>>21829200
Papa John's large is basically a medium now.
I only get it when I can get a """large""" for $10
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>>21829200
you cunts need to start offering garlic sauce as a sauce for the pizzas themselves and start brushing that shit on all the crusts when they come out the oven

also the garlic and cheese sauce needs to be sold by the quart at least
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>>21829207
The economy is fucked all around.
It's like covid took all the prices for shit, and shoot it up like a snow globe and we're still trying to figure out where the balance is for everyone to be able to exist.
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>>21830527
Isn’t it like garlic flavored margarine slop?
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>>21830527
I'm pretty sure the only reason we don't offer the garlic sauce as a topping sauce is because we would go through so much of it so quickly that it would be logistically impractical
Same for why the Pepperoncinis aren't available as a regular topping. We already use something ridiculous like 1/3rd of the entire country of Turkey's pepperonicini supply every year, just by puting 1 in each box

There must be some restrictive reasons like that, because it's the most obvious thing in the world for our signature item to be a Garlic sauced pizza with sliced Pepperoncini peppers
maybe they tested it and it just tastes like shit
>>21830533
It's basically nothing but soybean oil so yeah
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>>21830529
If you look at input costs versus prices the fucking corpos just got greedy and started demanding Starbucks margins on everything including the grocery store

Huge collision from the consultant cunts up top
It’s a slave economy
If you monopolize food and drugs (pharma and healthcare) then you can control an entire population and plunge it into slavery
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>>21830542
Collusion
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>>21830288
Are there any execs currently that are actually passionate about pizza or even food generally? Also has there ever been talk of licensing items from other chains (like say cheddar bay biscuits)?
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>>21830580
There are True Believers at all levels, people who actually do care about putting out a good product because they don't want to work for a company they don't believe in. There's just also a lot of people who would easily sacrifice quality and customer experience if they could still get the same profits out of it.
>Also has there ever been talk of licensing items from other chains (like say cheddar bay biscuits)?
Not specifically from other chains, I mean I'm not really sure what we'd do with cheddar bay biscuits, but we've done crossovers with other brands like the Doritos thing and the Twix (and currently Oreo) bites
but that's about as far as it goes
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The Pan Pizza was pretty good. Thank you for your service my nigga.
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>>21830636
yeah I was surprised how good it is, I don't usually like pan pizzas or deep dish
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>>21829200
Have you outpizza'd Doughtoli and Doughjoe yet?
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>>21830927
I could probably hang with them by now yeah
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>>21830939
can you do this?

https://youtube.com/shorts/th7r0hWXvX4?si=o5OsbjnYmEfSfy4h
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>>21830944
Alright, probably not, but thankfully you don't need to. That's just like a gunslinger doing fancy flourishes because he can, it doesn't make a better crust.
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>>21830944
and if I had 100+ pre-recorded takes to do it yeah I obviously could nail 1 of them
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>>21830599
>not really sure what we'd do with cheddar bay biscuits
Sell them as "cheddar bay biscuits" in counts of 6 or 12, what do you mean? Call them Papa Bay Biscuits if you want to pretend that your company is above such a lazy tie-in(they're not).
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>>21830949
well you realize they're different companies right? why would they license out completely opposed menu items to another restaurant?
what next, the Blooming Onion coming soon to Panda Express?
what are you even talking about
>hey anon why don't you make a deal with mcdonalds to sell mcnuggets at your pizza chain
I shouldn't have to explain to you why that doesn't happen
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>>21829200
Cool but until you fuckers quarter the amount of sugar in your sauce you will remain inedible
Pizza is not a sweet
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>>21830950
>you realize they're different companies right?
Like Doritos and Twix and Oreo? It's very obvious where both would benefit and they've done crossovers before.
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>>21830955
Oh, and ditch the fucking fake starch cheese. Actual cheese isn't that goddamned expensive. "Pizza cheese" (random dairy mixed with fucking corn starch) makes me sick as a dog.
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>>21830955
I know, I'm one of the most vocal that I know of about the fact that our sauce is too sweet
it's a decision above my head
>>21830956
Doritos and Twix and Oreos are BRAND collaberations, it's different. There isn't a Doritos Restaurant.
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>>21830958
All I can say is we're working on it, we're supposed to be getting new cheese and new sauce but I can't say for certain yet how or why it is different
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>>21830967
>>21830963
Well if they switch to real cheese and de-sweeten the sauce I think a ton of people would give PJ's a second chance. Pizza Hut is a non factor and Domino's is complacent
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>>21830963
>There isn't a Doritos Restaurant
And these two restaurants serve very different styles of cuisine and people, even more so than before the bankruptcy. Again it is very obvious where both would benefit, you can say you don't like the idea but to pretend it couldn't be mutually beneficial to do a limited-time collaboration is to be willfully retarded.
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>>21830970
Yeah I'vve been saying exactly that for so long
just a LITTLE less sugar, better cheese, slightly longer bake-times and we're golden
people want to like our stuff, everybody talks about 90s or early 2000s nostalgia saying "man papa johns was the premium option"

pizza hut or dominos for a school pizza party? pssshhh, that's ghetto
papa johns was primo
I'd just like us to get back to that, reclaim that spot in the market

because I have tried Dominos recently and I was not impressed. Haven't tried Pizza Hut in a while but they're not going anywhere no matter what happens.
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>>21830977
It's just not practical though, cheddar bay biscuits served at Papa John's Pizza? what's the point of this?
It's like if Burger King said they were suddenly offering Taco Bell's mexican pizza
why would such a crossover ever even happen? doesn't make any sense

And from a pure logistics standpoint, do you know what a Papa Johns restaurant contains, in terms of cooking ability? We have a Pizza Oven. A big fucking oven. That's what we have, that's what everything goes into.
Why would we waste time and energy on a cross-competitor promotional item that doesn't even probably bake properly in a pizza oven?
You make cheddar biscuits in a pizza oven? Is that what you do?

You madman. Get the fuck out of my face.

Now if you had just said "cheddar bay CRUST" - we might have had a dialogue
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>>21830963
>Doritos and Twix and Oreos are BRAND collaberations, it's different. There isn't a Doritos Restaurant.
Not trying to lecture an expert but my thinking is:
-little crossover between Red Lobster and PJ’s
-Cheddar Bay Biscuit mix and frozen premade boxes are already sold in the grocery store
-trying to think of a product that uses the oven, probably hasn’t been tried before, but that a pizza customer would want to order
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>>21830992
It's not a bad idea directionally it's just not something that happens
Big chains don't share signature items like that
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>>21830205
little cesars deep dish is surprisingly good. their best menu item even. Jets has always been mediocre and extremely overpriced.
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>>21830989
>do you know what a Papa Johns restaurant contains, in terms of cooking ability? We have a Pizza Oven. A big fucking oven. That's what we have, that's what everything goes into.
I just want to expand on this a little bit, for the curious lurkers
It's a multi-tiered conveyor oven. You'd be surprised how many locations technically have 3 belts but only run one of them. You can dial in the temperatures, and the cycle time, it's all pretty fascinating.
If your local Papa Johns is often underbaked, or soggy, or just generally shitty, there's a good chance it's because their oven is poorly calibrated.
Keeping temps is IMPORTANT!
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>>21830989
>cheddar bay biscuits served at Papa John's Pizza? what's the point of this?
When has Papa John's ever served cheesy bits of bread as a side? What could the point be hmmmm? Now I know you're just being willfully retarded.

>bro we just have an oven
How have you been cooking all of your other small individual cheesy bread sides all of these years? Do you think they put the cheddar biscuits in a fucking sous vide machine?
>they probably wouldn't bake properly in apizza oven
They probably would but even if that were the case then they can be shaped such that they will and you have your Papa Bay Biscuits.

>why do the promotion?
It would make Papa John's money if people want to buy them, and it would make Darden money through licensing fees and by reminding people about the best thing about their restaurant while they try to build momentum again after their bankruptcy.

>>21830995
>they just wouldn't want to do that
Then just say "execs wouldn't want to", don't try to concoct a dozen shitty incorrect reasons why it wouldn't work logically. Just say that company heads are stubborn like that.
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>>21830999
>>21830205
I wouldn't even really call it a true deep dish, it's a Pan Pizza for sure all the way, it's difficult to describe beyond just...being a pan pizza
It's a medium (12") but with the topping ratios of a large (14") so it ends up being quite hearty, but the crust is good too
I'm surprised it comes out so well
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>>21831003
Look nigga I don't know why you are so adamant about cheddar bay biscuits from a completely different restaurant chain being served at Papa Johns, and why you don't know why that doesn't ever happen
but you're just wrong and insane

I don't know what else to tell you big guy we're not serving a signature item from a completely different restaurant at our pizza restaurant
there's no reason to do it and nobody is asking for it except literally you
I have been extremely patient in entertaining your ideas so far but you're just a fucking retard

Go tell McDonalds they should sell Whoppers I'm sure you'll get through to somebody
Jesus Christ
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>>21831010
>I don't know what else to tell you
You gave me three shitty non-reasons and pretended they made sense when they don't. "Why would Papa John's sell cheesy bread as a side? How would we even cook cheesy bread if all we have is an oven? Why would we do a promotion that makes us money?"
>there's no reason to do it
I already gave you a good reason for both companies.
>why you don't know why that never happens
It's clear why that never happens. Because execs are stubborn about these things even when it would be mutually beneficial to two restaurants that don't directly compete in style, customer type, or price point(but you keep pretending that Papa Johns and Red Lobster as as similar as McDonald's and Burger King), and everyone below them is a trained corporate ass-licker like yourself.
The new CEO for red lobster revamped their entire model and pulled them out of bankruptcy doing things that you would scoff at and say was retarded. If Papa John's CEO said this exact crossover was happening, you'd be on your knees gurgling the balls of the next highest guy on the ladder.

I'm only arguing it because your pretend reasons for it not happening were just that fucking stupid. "How would we cook cheesy bread at a pizza place?" They really lucked out with you, didn't they?
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>>21831027
we already sell our own cheesy bread, doofus
they're called cheesesticks
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>>21829200
welcome back.
unfortunately there is still no Papa Johns in delivery distance for me...
neither Pizza Hut, actually, so i guess i'm screwed both ways.
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>>21829200
You fucking cunt, I should have buried your company when I had the chance.
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>>21831038
Glad to be back except for this one guy who keeps riding my ass about why we don't serve Red Lobster's cheddar bay biscuits
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>>21831040
hey man you guys occupy a completely different niche in the market OK?
we don't want the smoke with Caesar
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>>21831037
Then why are you pretending it would be rocket science to figure out how to cook cheesy bread in an oven if it doesn't have the Papa John's label on the box?

>>21831042
I decided to ride your ass because you couldn't just give the actual answer of "company heads wouldn't want to promote other signature items" until I pulled every tooth in your mouth and waded through reasons like "how would we even cook cheesy bread dough in an oven????" Couldn't have just said that from the get-go, you had to pretend that the mere idea of selling cheesy bread was haram.
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>>21831027
>>21831037
>we already sell our own cheesy bread, doofus
>they're called cheesesticks
AND IF YOU NEED MORE
WE HAVE GARLIC KNOTS
AND BREAD STICKS BOTH REGULAR AND WITH GARLIC PARMESAN (parmesan being a CHEESE)

is that enough cheesy bread side-options from our proprietary establishment, or would you like us to just BECOME Red Lobster?
do you want some all-you-can-eat boiled shrimp with your pizza, sir?
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>>21831049
>Then why are you pretending it would be rocket science to figure out how to cook cheesy bread in an oven if it doesn't have the Papa John's label on the box?
it wouldn't be rocket science, it would be INCONVENIENT. Biscuits are not pizza.
>>21831049
> you couldn't just give the actual answer of "company heads wouldn't want to promote other signature items"
That's the first answer I gave you. I told you that major chains don't share signature items like that, it just doesn't happen.
I told you that nigga read please
>>21830950
>well you realize they're different companies right? why would they license out completely opposed menu items to another restaurant?
literally the first fucking thing I told you young blood
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>>21831051
So why the fuck did you go on that whole tangent about how "well you see from a pure logistics standpoint, I don't know if you realize, but Papa John's has ovens"? Did you not realize that people widely know that Papa John's sells smaller, cheesy bites of bread?

>>21831060
>Biscuits are not pizza
They cook like it if the frozen dough comes shaped so that it cooks in the time that your pizza cooks. So it wouldn't be inconvenient, actually.

>That's the first answer I gave you
I told you why they would license out those opposed menu items and you pretended that while Little Caesars and Papa Johns occupy "completely different niches", Papa Johns and Red Lobster are as similar as McDonald's and Burger King. Then you pretended that you can't cook cheesy bread in an oven.
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>>21831042
You're on 4chan, you're gonna be dealing with braindead children that don't know what the word "logistics" means. Copyrights? Oven temps are wrong? Supply chain? The fuck are those? You just make cheese dough hot!
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>>21831065
Bro I have no idea what you want from me, we're not selling Red Lobster menu items at Papa Johns
I do not know what else to tell you
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>>21831065
>It wouldn't be inconvenient, you'd just have to invent an entirely different product while also convincing red lobster you aren't cannibalizing their sales (you are)

Anon you're retarded. It's time to stop posting.
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>>21831072
even pizza hut has my back?
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>>21831070
>we're not selling them
no shit

>I don't know what else to tell you
I'm not trying to make you pitch this to the taint of the person above you as your tongue runs across it, I'm telling you that the reasons you gave for it not happening beyond "higher ups wouldn't want to" were fucking stupid.
If you didn't list stupid non-reasons we wouldn't still be having this argument but you pretend that you can't run frozen dough through an oven and that Red Lobster and Papa Johns are as similar as McDonald's and Burger King. I'm calling you retarded for saying those things because it was. If you don't want someone to argue with a retarded point you make on here, don't make the retarded point. You can stop replying to me at any time, if your pride as a GM will allow it.

>>21831072
>you'd just have to invent an entirely different product
You make the biscuits a slightly larger size/shape so they cook better in the standardized ovens. Do you think that they sat in R&D for a year with the shaq pizza that was just a larger pepperoni pizza rebranded for name recognition?
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>>21831079
>You can stop replying to me at any time
It's about that time, yes
Good luck with our cheddar biscuit crusade

if anybody else has questions that aren't about adopting red lobster menu items at our pizza place, I'll gladly answer them
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>>21831079
also you don't evenk now what you're talking about with the shaqaroni
the shaq pizza was not just a larger pepperoni, it was UNIQUELY an XL with double pepperoni and extra cheese cut into 8 slices instead of the usual 10 for an XL to create more FOLDABLE SLICES WITH MORE SHAQ-FLAVORED PEPPERONI FOR YOUR LITTLE RED-LOBSTER LOVING ASS

mother fucker
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>>21831088
It was more of a "calling you a dishonest retard" crusade for saying that
>Papa John's and Little Caesar's occupy completely different market niches
but also
>Papa John's and Red Lobster are as similar as Burger King and McDonald's

>>21831095
So a larger pepperoni with extra cheese extra pep. Or "an entirely different product" if you want to pretend it was more work than branding.
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>>21831101
I was mostly joking about little Caesars, but it is true that they are more aimed at fast carryout and ready-to-go service. My location isn't like that. We aren't competing with them directly in terms of a delivery area.
>So a larger pepperoni with extra cheese extra pep. Or "an entirely different product" if you want to pretend it was more work than branding.
Oh it wasn't anything novel, but it's pretty good.
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>>21831079
>Just make them bigger
>when the problem is that the oven temp is WAY WAY too high for biscuit dough
Congrats, you made blackened biscuits with gooey raw centers you dumb cunt

There's a reason everything that comes out of a place with just a pizza oven is made of pizza dough
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If it was up to me, our menu would be extremely reduced. Focus on quality of doing a few things very well.
The Menu would essentially be:
>Pizza
>Wings
>Bread Sides (Sticks, Cheesesticks, Garlic Knots all get to stay)
>Desserts (only the most popular ones remain - Brownies, Cookies, Cinnamon Pullaparts that's it
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>>21831112
a rare moment of unity but I still want to overtake you in sales
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>>21831117
This is always the case and it's fascinating to watch public food service companies go through this idiotic dance of
>Things are fine but we need growth
>Let's add a bunch of new products to drive growth
>Oh no all our products suck now and we're shrinking
>Quick trim down our menu to drive growth
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>>21831123
that's the whole thing with the new pan pizza, man
it's like OK great, that's a great idea and it's not even inconvenient
but let's cut some of the other gimmicks, if we're focusing on like a homemade kind of "return to pizza" aesthetic
enough gimmicks is all I'm saying

and to be fair the pan pizza is very good
everyone that's tried is has liked it and we did a taste test of a lot of different ingredients
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>>21831106
Sending out slightly larger precut dough sections so they cook better isn't anything novel either, it is not hard to make that work in a way that does not inconvenience stores if they already make garlic knots. It's not asking you to make soup, it's close to a product you already have with just different branding to make it sell better. Say that execs do not want to do it, sure we were never not in agreement there. But you can't say that it would be challenging to implement if they wanted to.

>>21831112
Plenty of items are not made of pizza dough and they have solved that problem. The cookies come in pre-done foil rounds and the biscuits could be the same with foil on top to keep the tops from overcooking. You think they do that cookie dough fresh in-house every day?
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>>21831130
Anon
Papa Johns cookies are not regular fucking cookie dough
It is a special dough that is very very similar to their pizza dough.
ie a new product they had to create because you can't just drop cookie dough in a five hundred degree conveyer belt
So, like I said, a cheddar bay biscuit you can cook in a papa Johns oven is a NEW PRODUCT they have to R&D.
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>>21831130
The issue isn't that it's not possible the issue is that Papa Johns has no reason to serve Red Lobster food
are you autistic?
I'm SURE if we wanted to serve cheddar biscuits, we could figure out a way to do it
but we don't want to serve cheddar biscuits
because we are Papa Johns
not Red Lobster

holy shit man
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>>21831132
our cookies are really good though
you make them sound all industrial but they come out great, all of our desserts are actually my favorite menu items tbdesu
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>>21829200
I remember these threads. I haven't been to my local Papa's in a long while but they used to always have sports and Impractical Jokers on the TV. That's it, just those two. Fucking Joe and Sal though, funyy ass niggas, you know, if you're into that sorta pee pee and poo poo humour, which I am.

You got good shit on your TV there?
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>>21831143
We have a TV but it's kind of off to the side and nobody really uses it. Generally frowned upon to have a big distraction like that. If everybody was a professional, we could have nice things like that, but you get a lot of transient in-stores who don't really care and they'll start taking liberties and slacking off too much if you say "We can watch TV while we work!"
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>>21831151
also my location is kind of small and doesn't have a lot in the way of seating so there's no reason to have a game playing or anything like that, but if there's sports that we're legally allowed to show on the TV we will do that
but the second you give the remote over to LESSER EMPLOYEES...it's CHAOS....
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>>21831151
>Generally frowned upon to have a big distraction like that
By who?
>transient in-stores
wut
Is your Papa John's like that Waiting... movie? That's the vibe i'm getting rn.
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>>21831132
>So, like I said, a cheddar bay biscuit you can cook in a papa Johns oven is a NEW PRODUCT they have to R&D.
The cookies were a new product they had to R&D. Foiling the tops would go a long way towards making that happen because it would protect them from the entirety of the direct heat. They've done weirder products that have worked as the GM anon will wistfully recall if he wants to be honest for a change.

>>21831135
>"Say the execs do not want to do it and we are in agreement, my point is that it would easily be doable if they did want to."
>"wtf we don't want to why do you think we want to?"
Is this on purpose or are you this stupid genuinely? And a GM is not in any appreciable way part of the "we" that decides that let's be honest with each other. To think otherwise is delusional, and even using "we" in your position is thinking that you are not part of a corporation that would turn you to meat past for a .0001% increase in profits that quarter. I get that you are trained and gaslit to make that your mental reality but come on man.
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>>21831169
>By who?
Me
>Is your Papa John's like that Waiting... movie? That's the vibe i'm getting rn.
No, I mean in-store employees. They get transient/lazy if you let them slack off too much. Having an open TV that you can just watch anything you want on is an invitation for chaos.
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>>21831170
You're like a legitimate insane person. You've become near homicidal and hysterical over the idea that Papa Johns will not serve Red Lobster biscuits.

You are like a crazy person
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>>21831178
Are you one of those guys that doesn't believe in downtime? Do you make everyone wipe counters that are already clean just because there's nothing else to do?



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