>>21838790
Is this better than ardbeg? I can get it for 56 dollars but didn’t like ardbeg. My favorite whiskey is Bushmills 18 btw.
I recently picked up pic related from CN-A Floor 4. Holy shit this is delicious with big cherry cola flavors. The only negative is a small amount of oak astringency but it's hardly noticeable. Is the regular Russel's single barrel close to this good? I'm prepared to throw out the rest of my trash bourbons and only drink this nectar if it were always available (scotchfags don't get butthurt I'm only talking about bourbon).
The hot sauce threads are less full of insecure manchildren than these threads desu.
>>21874915its definitely different than Ardbeg and therefore better.
>>21874915I'm assuming you're talking about the standard Laphroaig 10 because if you can find the cask strength for $56 you should buy multiple bottles the next time you go back.
What's the best welsh whisky?
>>21873214Repostan my question
>>21875150isnt it just Penderyn?
>>21875448Apparently there are nine distilleries there
>>21875242Yes of course you do, unless you need those euros to heat your house or something drastic you gotta go for it
thinking about starting my own youtube channel where I review whiskeys :)
>>21874931The problem with the single barrel non store picks is that you have no idea where they came from. Camp Nelson is known for having better bottles but they don’t tell you were or what floor of the rick house they were selected from so it’s more of a crap shoot. I’ve never had a bad sib but some of them have just been ok.
>>21875611Do it and post the link here
>>21874931TY-K Floor 5 (8 yr bottled ‘24) reporting in. It’s my favorite bourbon and I’ve been drinking it slower and slower cause I don’t want it to be gone but I gotta rip the bandaid off as it oxidizes faster and faster>scotchfags don't get butthurt I'm only talking about bourbondiscussing bourbon is welcome. peacocking about how manly you are for preferring it over scotch is extremely homosexual
>>21874931I'm currently trying the Russell's pick alongside the ECBP B525. Both are great bourbons. The Elijah Craig is a bit more well rounded and has darker fruit notes along with a good amount of cinnamon and vanilla, while the Russell's has a distinct brightness with very strong notes of maraschino cherries and a small amount of vanilla. Interestingly I get stronger oak notes from the Russell's despite being aged roughly 3 years less (maybe just a factor of being single barrel versus batched which rounds out the oak better). Overall I'm enjoying the Russell's a lot more as it has an interesting complexity that all balances nicely together, and it hits that cherry cola profile extremely well.>>21875629I'll have to try a non store pick and compare. I'm sure it'd be very unlikely to match this pick but even if it comes close I'd be happy.
>>21875654i think it's against the rules
My (scotch) YouTube routine for years has been :>ralfy >the luening boys>random Who reviewer I find 10 pages deep with ~75 views over 5 years You really get a little bit of everything there
>>21875781Then, in the future, post a scotch and talk about it, then post a link to a “random review” of the scotch by “someone” you just found along with a screenshot from the videoPeople do that shit all the time
>>21875829I just buy a bottle, then search and watch the first few reviews that pop up while I drink the neck pours
>>21874931You get any nutty notes at all?
>>21875611the views are super low so you'd basically be doing it for yourself
>>21874913>Le Frog
After years of hoarding I think I got my rye collection to just four core bottles (everything else is still a work in progress). Willett 4yo, JD SBBP, Michter’s BP, and Sagamore 9 . Curious what other people’s downsized collection would look like.
>>21876823At my height I had about 25 bottles. (Small area to store them so smaller variety). I'm down to about 14.Balvenie 14 year Caribbean CaskBlantons Single barrelEH TaylorGlenfiddich 15 yearJD HeritageMilam and Greene VSBNikka from The BarrelOctomore 15.1 (for when it finally happens)Penelope ValenciaSpice KingSpringbank 10Weller SRNorth Shore Distillery 7 year Single MaltWhiskey Acres 7 year
>>21876823I think I'd be happy with only Redwood Empire Emerald Giant cask strength to cover rye. The Willett rye would be a close second. I'm not really a fan of any rye that is 49% corn so I wouldn't mind throwing out my JDSBBP. I want my ryes to taste like liquid rye bread.
>>21876186All bourbon drinkers are a bit nutty
>>21876852>(for when it finally happens)?
>>21876823what I have open right now: >Knob Creek 12>Knob Creek 18>Whiskey Thief 7-year rye>Four Roses Small Batch Select>Old Forester SBBP>Wild Turkey 8-year>Stagg>Old Fitz 11haven't opened yet: >Eagle Rare>EHT Small Batch>Wild Turkey Private Selection Single Barrel>Still Austin SBBP
>>21876823The ryes I like are sagamore particularly their barrel strength and high wests ryes. All of the high west rye I’ve tried I’ve liked. I do not like the whistle pigs or redwood empire ive tried and I haven’t tried willet.>>21876877No where in my state has the new wild turkey releases. I’ve looked everywhere and I can’t find the 8 year for some reason. I am a wt simp so it’s starting to bother me.
>>21876917I found my 8-year bottle in a random grocery store in northern MI last summer and I've only seen it once since despite looking in several states. The distillery didn't have it either when I went back in August.
>>21874913What's the best value widely available whisky or bourbon?I've only had Ballentine's (bad), Jack Daniel's and Jim Beam (these were better)
>>21876993I like either the 7year BUB Heaven Hill or basic Woodford Reserve. If you want just straight value than WT 101
>>21876993Jack Daniel’s SBBP (both the bourbon and rye) are by far the best values across the board in any price category of whiskey. If you’re asking what is strictly the best “budget friendly” value-wise, then it’s Old Forester 100 and it’s not even up for debate. Retards, like the anon above me, love to default to WT101 but OF100 absolutely shits and pisses all over any whiskey on the shelves at <$30. Honorable mention to Knob Creek 9 year… I can get a handle of it at my local total wine for like $50 which for a 9 year age stated bourbon at 100 proof is just mind boggling to me.
>>21874913Any difference between this and the QuarterCask?
>>21877057Massive difference
>>21877050Eh budget shitter bourbon depends on your location. For example my store has OGD114 for 19 something which is cheaper than WT101 at 22 and OF100 at 25. If you just want pure value nothing beats a dickle 15. You can get stuff aged 18 years @ 105 proof for 60 bucks.
>>21877104>>21877050Thanks, I'll look around for these. What about Irish / Scottish stuff? Famous Grouse, Grant's and Tullamore Dew seem cheap around here.
>>21877050JD SBBP is wildly overrated and not the best values by far. It's good but there are lots of heavy hitters in that general price range. Russell's SiB, Knob Creek picks, Makers CS, 1792 Full Proof, etc.
>>21877050Old Forester's 100 proof rye is also a great budget whiskey.
>>21877104>For example my store has OGD114 for 19I am jelly as fuck. I'd have like five bottles of it right now if I was you.
Ogd 114, wt101 and kc9 ate the kings of value. I would gladly sip on any of these they aren’t good for the price they are just good whiskeys at any price. Being so cheap makes them insane values.
>>21877143I don't think it's overrated, but I wouldn't say it's the best value. JD and Russells are very consistent but with any single barrel product there's always the possibility of getting a dud.>>21877179If you're willing to go a little higher in price, I'd add Knob Creek 12 to that, especially if you can get it for $60 or less. At that high an age statement, it's an incredible bottle for the money. I hope I can find some of the cask strength ones when they come out later this year. That and the 7-year OGD114 are my most anticipated new releases.
>>21876823>JDOpinion discarded.
>Got a Woodford Reserve Double Oak Single barrel barrel Proof store pick for $50 because my local Jewel Mislabeled it They only had one left but still.
>>21877274I have been meaning to grab a kc12 but it’s not always available near me. I have tried a kc9 store pick that was excellent and I have a bottle of kc21 which I don’t really care for.
>>21876917Ended up finding a willet green top and a wild turkey 8 year just now. Had to ask for the wt they didn’t have it on the shelf yet … big score tonight. Wasn’t planning on drinking but looks like I will be.
>>21877410Nice. I bet it's going to be one hell of a flavor bomb.
>>21877432Availability/distribution of KC12 is weirdly random for sure
>>21877532>bourbon>flavor bomblmao
>>21878040>I have never had Woodford Reserve Double Oaked
>>21877050WT101 used to rape OF100 but it fell off a cliff this decade
>>21878040>first fill cask of new charred oak >not a flavor bomb
>80 proof water down “whiskey”>flavorlol
>>21877410fucking sick.
Is Redwood Empire Haystack Needle actually worth $120+? It seems like a label that has been bait-and-switched from high aged MGP to younger stuff that they distill themselves (though still aged for 8 years). I'd think it's worth $60-80. But even still it gets a lot of praise. Is it just a hype bottle because of allocation?
>>21878640Nah all that shit is mid
>>21878640Redwood empire is a shitty hipster distillery selling overpriced slop. All their bottles are way too expensive for what they are.
>>21878661So it's Peerless 2.0?
>>21878748Some people swear they love peerless but I e never tried it so I can’t comment
What’s the verdict on Kentucky Owl are they top shelf quality or just fancy looking bottles
>>21878790>>21878748Peerless is good, just not $100+ a bottle good
>>21878799I've never had it but my understanding is that their initial offerings before they were bought by Stoli were quite good, but now they collect dust everywhere I see them. All of their juice is sourced, but no one knows for sure from where (though people think Barton is most likely). Stoli USA just filed for bankruptcy and is selling off all their shit so who knows what's gonna happen to Kentucky Owl. Personally I avoid them, there's so much great stuff I'm already familiar with that I'm not willing to take a chance on a $100+ unknown bottle especially if it's not their own distillate.
>>21878799I have their Takumi edition. It drinks differently from your typical bourbons so I like it. No idea how the regular KO drinks tho. My store marked it down from their obscene MSRP to 80 bucks and I think it's well worth it at that. Sorta kicking myself for not getting a backup bottle since they went back up. It's unique because it doesn't drink like a bourbon but it's not a Japanese whiskey either. Super long finish, some lighter fruits and floral things going on for me and deceptively complex.
>>21877050>>21877179>>21877179What about Buffalo Trace? I can get that cheaper than the others you mentioned, barely more expensive than Jack Daniels over here
>buy our 9 yr single barrel bourbon>it has notes of bourbon, bourbon and bourbon>that'll be $100 + tax & tipor I could get 3 bottles of Knob Creek 9 instead. hmmm....
>>21878800What do you expect their founding distiller was Jewish. >>21879079It’s fine. It’s approachable and inoffensive but I would still just pay the extra $5 or so and get OF100.>>21879152No fucking shit you retard you’re comparing a 9 year single barrel offering at cask strength to a 9 year batched product that’s been proofed down to 100 proof. Not even remotely close to similar products.
>>21874913>the goatSend me a bottle now lord
>>21879079BT is lacking in flavor because of its low rye mashbill.
>>21879172>9 year single barrel offering at cask strength to a 9 year batched product that’s been proofed down to 100 proofwow so from 50% to 60% abv I get effectively 20% more whiskey for 3x the price. Or maybe I can justify that 3x as simply a $60 “service fee” to not blend the barrels together
>>21879199You’re a fucking retard. Why not take it a step further then and why even bother with knob creek 9? If it’s all the same brown water why not just go buy some Canadian mist? Theres a reason ~$10/year on an age stated barrel proof offering has become industry standard. You’re not even factoring in the fact that your store representative went out of their way to select that specific barrel. It’s the best way to support your local liquor store. You should go back to something more up your alley like IPA’s or something you faggot
uhoh Heaven Hill shill melty aaaaaiiiieee
>>21879172>>21879265>>21879306Lmao
>>21879152>>21879172God I am so tired of this retarded bullshit that goes on in every one of these /wg/s. Yes, KC9 is a consistent and great value, and it's also true that Elijah Craig barrel proofs (especially store picks) are often really fucking good but can occasionally be duds, and yes, they are different products. This attitude of "$20-$40 bourbons are good enough for me and therefore everything that's more expensive is overpriced bullshit" is just as tiresome as taters who think Blanton's is the best bourbon on earth.
>>21879546Hard disagree big dawg. Bourbon is not a complex drink. The current trend of single barrels and "complex flavors" is a modern trend aimed at capitalizing on the scotch boom that happened in the US. Instead of just selling great bourbons for a fair price they are going to gouge you on some gimmicky bullshit that doesn't even improve the flavor of the whiskey so they can upcharge you 300 percent. Sazerac is the worse for this using artificial scarcity and internet hype to drive demand for a very middling to poor product.
>>21879574You're applying the approach of Sazerac/BT to all bourbon, which is an exaggeration at best and total bullshit at worse. WT, Michter's, Beam, Heaven Hill, and Four Roses all put out single barrel and/or barrel proof products in the $50-$70 range that are widely available and range from good to excellent. I know I sound like a fucking shill saying all of this but as much as I like scotch as well, $50-$70 is barely clearing bottom-shelf scotch whereas you can get a really really good bourbon for the same price.
>>21879601Distilleries like WT and Beam have jumped on the trend of doing single barrels and stuff like that because taters buy it. I personally just don't understand the logic or why people get so hot and bothered by it. The whole point of having a master distiller is so they can blend the product and make something greater than the individual barrels would give you. A lot of the single barrels I've tried are worse than the normal batched product because its such a crap shoot on how it will turn out.
>>21879601>$50-$70 is barely clearing bottom shelf scotchno such thing for single malt because they always put scotch on the top shelf as so it is closer to Heaven giving the optics that its superior.
>>21879172>not remotely close to similar productsyeah, Beam actually makes good corn whiskey.
>>21879609NTABlending is done for consistency control and balance toward a target profile btw. >Source: Still Austin’s master blender: https://youtu.be/7uyqYCauiywShe literally explains batch products are a “snapshot in time” because of barrel variance so you keep reserve casks to adjust and hit the target profile. Isn't that just brand profile building 101 and basic bitch QC? I dunno why you are trying to frame blending as some guaranteed complexity upgrade. It's not a magical function where you can throw barrels at it and get a superior product every time.
>>21874913costco online made an oopsie and was selling lagavulin 8 for 25 bucks a pop. Sold out now, but goddam I should have bought more than 1.
>>21875065I've tried 4 ardbegs: wee beastie, 10, corryvreckan, uieauiaeuaiueagdal or whatever the fuck the sherried one is. Correyvreckan is a goat whiskey and probably in my top 5-10 easily findables. the 10 sucks, I dont like it. uieuaieuighuiaudal is popular but I am personally not a fan of heavily sherried peaty islays. Wee beastie really punches well for its price point and I like it way more than the 10. Loaphraog qc mogs all of them other than the corry
>>21880016they were probably trying to move old stock as theres a new Lagavulin hitting the states soon.>>21880022only had the 10 and Uigeadail. 10 was ok, the tarry rope note is its singular characteristic that makes it unique albeit simple. Uigeadail was so underwhelming after all the hype. I've had better NAS, heavily peated, sherried scotch for half the price. After the last half decade or more of meme releases and bad batch quality I have no intention of ever buying another Ardbeg. cant wait for the rebrand so I can laugh at the redditors in the slop trough waving their Ardbeg flags and showing off their #Ardbuttplug. hell at this point I wont be surprised if they introduce a ultra limited committee release of a run made solely by some pozzed "refugees" that you can only win a bottle of by donating a stupid amount money to a super gay cause.
The virgin Buffalo Trace drinker vs the chad Evan Williams appreciator
>>21880046Oh don't get me wrong, ardbeg is literally plebbit: the distillery and I don't really buy their products since the riots where they unironically raised the fucking blm flag....a remote scottish island in the countryside....raising an american race baiting blm flag....but if we are talking objectively, the corry is a fucking delicious black swirl of flavor for the price, and the wee beastie is a competitive entry level. But there is so much scotch to try, fuck em.
>>21879978That’s the whole point. “Building the flavor profile” is the art of being a master distiller. Being able to take barrels that are off profile and blend them together to create your brands signature flavor which you would assume is a good one because that’s the reason people will buy it. When you take blending out of the equation now it’s just a crap shoot. Some barrels that are in the best locations in the rickhouse will produce good single barrel whiskeys that may be “better” than the blended product but there are only so many barrels to go around so to meet the demand and fill bottles they have to also use inferior product from other locations in the rickhouse which should probably be blended. So now when you buy a single barrel product you end up with a higher chance of getting something from a marginal barrel than a primo one. The batching process eliminates this problem by having an expert create their ideal expression of the whiskey from that distillery.
I'm in EU and can only get 80 proof / 40% Buffalo Trace. Is it still worth it? It's priced the same as Wild Turkey 81, less than 101 but more than Evan Williams 86
>>21879574>>21879609Single barrels are not a “gimmick”. Single barrel offerings are becoming more popular because there is a growing demand for pure, unadulterated, single barrel, barrel proof expressions. There’s a reason why anything nowadays that is released as a “hazmat” is immediately more desirable. They want an experience that is almost akin to drinking straight from the barrel. The average whiskey consumer is also a more educated consumer (unlike you). There’s a lot more people that care about sourcing and mash bill transparency, Rick house locations, etc. The example from earlier comparing KC9 to a ECBP is just overtly retarded. The reason for the pricing discrepancy between the two is because Jim Beam can get a significantly higher yield by adding 20% more water to KC9 in proofing it down. It’s not because of batched vs single barrel.
>>21880219You are genuinely retarded. Barrel selection takes more skill than dumping thousands of barrels together. Even “small batches” consist of hundreds of barrels at any big boy distillery. While I agree that true, premium batched whiskey is superior to single barrels, these expressions almost always carry a heavier price tag. It’s much easier to find quality among a brand’s core product line on the shelf in single barrel expressions. >>21880243A lot of single barrels are proofed down
>>21880239No, those selections are trash. You need the 45% bufftrace or 101 wild turkey. Anything less is garbage. Btw, those two at the proof I mentioned are low tier entry level, although I love the 101. If you are a noob, always look for ‘bottled in bond’. If you want to spend a little more, wild turkey rare breed is the single best bourbon bang for your buck.
>>21880243Yes it is a gimmick. “Hazmat” is just another marketing scheme for people who have made whiskey their personality. Same thing as people who love super hoppy IPAs. Most hazmats stink because their burn overpowers their flavor profile. I have a 132 proof old forester bottle that is just all ethanol burn whys the point of that. Just because something is popular doesn’t mean it’s good it just means it’s been hyped and taters are buying. The average person in any hobby is not educated or nuanced this is a cope. Buffalo trace being the most hyped distillery is proof of that most people in any hobby are just hype beasts who follow the current trend. Also heaven hill is scamming on their pricing. You can get kc9 single barrels for 50 bucks that are 120 proof. >>21880255I’m not saying it creates more complexity I’m saying that complexity is overrated in bourbon and batching creates a most consistent enjoyable product. At least we agree batching creates a better product than a single barrel. I think bookers is one of the more interesting whiskeys that’s being released due to the small batch process they use to create unique variations on the beam flavor profile.
>>21880289Bulleit at 45% is also available for cheap here. Is that a good entry level?
>>21880310>“Hazmat” is just another marketing scheme for people who have made whiskey their personality.This is true. I won’t argue with you there. Hazmat is the new trend but it’s a symptom of what the average buyer wants in a whiskey today compared to yesterday. Today’s whiskey consumer values novelty way more over consistency which also is a symptom of the same aforementioned marketing ploys like artificial scarcity that distilleries like sazerac take advantage of. This isn’t unique to whiskey this is almost any luxury item. Just look at sneakers. This is exactly why single barrels are popular now. It’s the novelty of each barrel having completely different profiles, which doesn’t automatically make it a bad thing or a “gimmick”. Of course there are a ton of retarded gimmicks in whiskey production right now, but single barrel cask strength offerings aren’t one of them. The drinking experience of a single barrel offering at cask strength will almost always be significantly better than its age stated equivalent that’s been significantly proofed down.
>>21880322owned by Diageo, so expect it to be overpriced and aggressively mid compared to its competitors.
>>21880400okay, I'll look for the Wild Turkey 101. price on the Evan Williams is tempting though, about half the price
>>21880368proofing down hardly matters for bourbon as the range of flavors is inherently confined to the same handful of notes as the rest of the options on the shelf. hazmat is particularly stupid in its gimmick because raising proof in the barrel can be willfully induced, but is marketed as more than a mistake or mistreatment for the novelty which has come conveniently after a widespread illness that has a high chance of loss of smell/taste. and then theres the matter of injecting the populace with all sorts of low caste aliens who legitimately drink tub liquor or actual gasoline, so from the perspective of the company producing low quality for high price "the market is adjusting to that demand" and they can pat themselves on the back with a higher ESG score.>>21880417>Evan Williams is half the priceit certainly tastes like it, too. all Heaven Hill products have a signature pronounced alcohol note. it's all bum wine tier. stick with WT 101. also the anon that said the Rare Breed is the single barrel offering is incorrect. the single barrel of the Turkey core range is Kentucky Spirit and it's been rare the last couple years, but Rare Breed is still better and should be slightly cheaper.
>>21879265holy fucking jeet liquor store owner MELTY
>>21880046>I've had better NAS, heavily peated, sherried scotch for half the price.such as?
>>21880425>proofing down hardly matters for bourbon as the range of flavors is inherently confined to the same handful of notes as the rest of the options on the shelf.>hazmat is particularly stupid in its gimmick because raising proof in the barrel can be willfully induced, but is marketed as more than a mistake or mistreatment for the novelty which has come conveniently after a widespread illness that has a high chance of loss of smell/taste.this is all pure nonsense btw
>>21880520purely coincidence, right Bergsteinowitz?>>21880481Staoisha, the heavily peated, sherried Bunnahabhain from independent bottlers. the price on them is higher now, but so is Uigeadail's. theres still value options like Murray McDavid offerings such as The Vatting series features one called The Peatside where they blend young, heavily peated Islay single malt with aged, sherried Speyside single malt. should be around $50-60 USD.
>>21880239damn 40% buffalo trace sounds miserable
Adelphi Longmorn 11 First Fill ex bourbon 58% for $125 after tax. been waiting for any Longmorn for years and the tasting/nosing notes look good. might have to pull the trigger.
>>21880425I’m not sure what you mean by rare breed? Are you saying it’s not single barrel in the states? Here in Japan all the rare breed I see is single barrel. But Japan gets better bourbon selections than the states sometimes.
>>21881027Wild Turkey generally dumps a lot of their special releases in Japan for some reason, but yeah in the US Rare Breed is basically the 101 with some 12 year added and bottled at a higher proof.
i had a dram of holladay soft red wheat rickhouse proof and i liked it
>>21878799it's all sourced slop, but some of it is goodtheir niche stuff (st patricks edition, japanese edition) can be copped on clearance for like 40-50 bucks and is worth it there
>>21876187yea maybe. my fitness channel only gets a few views per day usually but sometime i get blessed with 500+. i have an approach that i think could catch on after a while but it's all a complete grind of uploading consistently until one day you wake up and the algorithm blesses you with 1000 subscribers overnight. something will give eventually
>>21881245>>21876187that being said, i can treat it as my own little journal which will motivate me to log stuff (make videos) since actually keeping a journal never sticks
>>21879265>>21880463Saar, support your local liquor store. Where are you going? Our overpriced bottles are negotiable, SAAR.
>>21880400No one complained about the diageo guy /wg/ has really gone down hill. Bulleit isn’t bad it’s just very boring and the rye is a lot better than the bourbon.>>21881264If I go to a new store and see this I don’t even bother looking at their bottles I just do a 360 and walk away.
>>21881239I had the regular soft red wheat and thought it was completely unremarkable. I gave it like a month after the first few pours and it never got any better so I let my wife use the rest of it for baking. But, I have not had the rickhouse proof version and I'm willing to give that a shot if I see it at a bar
>>21881399it won't blow you away but it's ridiculously easy going at 120 proof and has a buttery mouthfeel, buttered popcorn was what jumped out at me first sip. i have a bottle of the bottled in bond but haven't opened it yet to compare
>>21881317>very boringyes, its aggressively mid.
Sagamore Cask Strength™ is a legit whiskey for manly rye chads.
>>21881219>for some reasonJapan basically single handedly saved the whiskey industry during the 90s slump.
thoughts on unaged whiskey?I'm surprised it isn't more popular
>>21881874you mean vodka? yeah I like it, my favorite budget is Luksusowa or Wyborowa, favorite premium is Chopin Rye
>>21881889whiskey is not vodka
>>21881918What's the difference for an unaged version? You can get rye or corn vodka too.
>>21881924vodka is more purified and has less flavor overtones.
>>21880463>>21881264I’m sorry that your local liquor stores are run by the Patel cartel. Fortunately for me, I live in an affluent area (because I’m white) and my local liquor store is white owned with a great selection at great prices. I’m also not a autist (like you) so I do enjoy talking to their staff everytime I visit and support their business by regularly purchasing their store picks. I don’t worry about them being overpriced or finding “good bargains” because I’m not a brokie or wear a tiny hat (again, just like you). Because of this, I have an established relationship with my local store and they regularly hold back allocations and great whiskey on my behalf that never hit the shelves so niggers (just like you) can’t buy them.
>>21882012poopy hands typed this post
>>21881399the Rickhouse is much better than the regular. Not amazing, but very good. I just had the 8 year fir the first time and I think that's the best but it's not widely available yet.
>>21881998You can get unfiltered vodka sometimes, I know Belvedere has one that people like
>>21882293The us has strict standards on the hat can be called vodka and how pure it has to be which removes most of the character from the spirit. You’d have to import something I think.
>>21881399I haven’t had their wheated offering but their regular bourbon at rickhouse proof is fairly mid, even with a 6 year age statement it drinks closer to 4. Has the unrefined crafty feel, I imagine they use a a short and fat still. Not bad though
>>21882300Ah, that makes sense. I also know Chopin does an unfiltered, single harvest potato vodka called Młody Ziemniak (young potato), I'm guessing that's also not available in US
>>21881874I like this straight when I was still mixing with soda.
For all my Illinois bros.Binny's has a $15 off coupon on their website for purchases of $75 or more.
>>21874931>whisky thread >posts whiskey
>>21881874Newmakes don't taste good on their own. I guess moonshine is an exception if they use bourbon mashbill I hate that distilleys don't sell newmakes or if the ydi they're heavily marked up. Fucken gay
So is Evan Williams the best dirt cheap bourbon? What's the best dirt cheap scotch / irish blend then?
>>21882434best cheap bourbon($10-$15) is something from Barton or Beam. Scotch is probably Famous Grouse and Irish is Bushmills > Cooley > Midelton
>>21881889>>21881918>>21881924>>21881998>>21882293>>21882300>>21882322A spirit has to be distilled to 190 proof before it can be called vodka. It is then watered down to 80 proof. This is what they sell. Vodka is watered down everclear.>Belvedere>ChopinPoles make the best vodka.
>>21882433>Newmakes>whiskeyfags are so insufferable they had to make a new word for "moonshine" to sound more sophisticated>it sounds like fucking baby talkPlease stop breathing.
Why is this guy in whiskey general?
>>21882516new make is the Scots-Irish terminology. White dog/white lighting/moonshine in the states.
>>21876852>Nikka from The Barrel Based Nikka from the barrel enjoyer. Their Coffey Grain is also great. I usually don't like jap whisky, especially that Suntory slop.
>>21882554yea he's too smart for this thread
I’m drinking wild turkey 101 tonight. How do I feel about it?
>>21883109Happy, then melancholy, then lachrymose, then there's a little click, then nothing.
>>21882791I really want to try nikka from the barrel but the tiny bottle has always dissuaded me from purchasing it. >>21874931This anon here, I had a pour of the Russell's pick again tonight and it was fantastic again. I swung by the liquor store earlier and, to my surprise, they still had bottles of it, but I resisted buying a backup.Instead, I purchased a knob creek "Eli manning bold pick" 116.4 proof. Which I am sipping on now and it's decent. It's probably my favorite knob creek to date, of which I've never really enjoyed. I've tried 9 year, 12 year, and now this. For me, everything about it leaves a lot to be desired; it isn't quite as sweet as I'd expect a bourbon to be, it has some body but not much, especially for a cask strength release, and the finish decays quickly while leaving an unpleasant astringency behind. I get the peanut note and it's nice, but overall I think that the knob creek mash bill or flavor profile just doesn't fit with me.Finally, I'm trying some makers cask strength 7years 2 months batch. It's far better than the knob creek. It's nothing special but still very pleasant with a lot of vanilla especially on the finish. I like this one, and I think I'll be coming back to it a lot. It's definitely a contender for the best value bourbon on the market today if you love dense higher proof bourbons.Anyway, I might be going back to get one or even two more of the Russell's picks to save for later (or to give out as gifts, though I'm unsure if I know anyone who deserves one). Maybe it just hits a flavor profile that I love but it's the best bourbon I have. I don't have anything high priced or highly allocated so maybe I don't deserve to sing its praise. But compared to anything else I've purchased for $70, it's damn good.
>>21883115I’ve never been happy before why else would you drink wild turkey 101
having some dark arts rye finished with toasted amburana staves bottled at 54%
>>21882383Thanks anon, picked up a bookers for $65
>>21883126>wheated>value>good>not shit
>>21874915I prefer the 25 year over Ardbeg. Ardbeg is way too petey or however you spell it.>
After extensive research I have determined the only distilleries worth drinking: Wild Turkey, Jim Beam, Sagamore, high west.Runner up: Jack Daniels This concludes the list of distilleries worth drinking.
>>21883914No Heaven Hill? They have some great value bangers
damn this moggs the likes of Jim Beam White Label hard and it's cheaper too
>>21884147Send me a dram
>>21884147I loved the 15.1
>>21884147How much did it cost you to be so gullible?
>>21884036>>21884120Get he gone golden>>21884147Trim your nails ffs
>>21884147Finally some good whiskey in here. I was getting tired of budget shitter talk
>>21883126This anon again. I tried a bit of the Russell's pick again today and now I'm realizing it has too much cinnamon for my taste. It does integrate pretty nicely with the cherry for that cherry cola flavor but the cinnamon is a touch overpowering. It's still very good but I will not be buying another bottle. Also lately I've been buying in more to the idea that store picks are just a way for distilleries to offload weird barrels that are generally not great. It makes zero sense for them to allocate their good barrels to a random store versus to their standard product, especially when it's a single barrel product. They make money either way, but at least with shit barrels going to store picks then the blame gets put on the store for making a shit pick (even if they only get 3 shit samples to choose from), rather than on the distillery for putting out a shit barrel.
>>21884120I only drink 30 year old scotch that has been gargled by the king of England and then spat back into the bottle. Both of these bourbon slops are beneath me.
>>21884316I don't think barrels set aside for store picks are necessarily trash they want to get rid of (though I'm sure that happens), it's just stuff that the master distiller thinks is off-profile and isn't a good fit for their batched products. I think that's a big part of the appeal, though, being able to say "this barrel that I picked doesn't taste like anything else you can get from (distiller)." Obviously some stores are going to be more discerning/experienced and know their shit more than others.
>>21884402Price? Shipping?
>>21884489This post is bottled in bond btw
>>21884489why do 90% of Bourbon drinkers look like this?
>>21884687>100%ftfy
>>21884489>>21884687>>21884732>t. Scotch fags
>>21884772Daily reminder that scotch posters are Indians. Post hand randeep.
>>21884786Lmao seething
>>21884800Sure thing Patel.
>>21884809Im sure he also enjoys scotch just like you. Pls Saar do the needful and post your hand you bloody benchod.
>>21884786>>21884800>>21884809>>21884826>>21884836Lmao rent free
>>21884853>>21884857>>21884865Yes I am fat and lack a foreskin. Now please post your hand saar.
Not like this scotch bros
>Americans think Scotland is in the EU
>>21884928>>21884929
Can you two ladies leave that shit for pol
>>21884939>>21884948What does any of this have to do with Indians loving scotch randeep? Just post your hand so we can put an end to the madness.
>bourbon drinkers
>>21885020Love me some Ileller
GOOD MORNING SAARS
>>21884928>>21884929Tbh Americans barely accept that scotland exists
>>21884489>>21884765You're right. Everybody should stop making bourbon so everybody can enjoy the wide range of pure scotch only aged in new oak barrels!
>>21877050I like wild turkey 101 :)
>>21885469bro, your american single malts?>>21885488also shut up alreadyt. scotchnigger
>>21886022Why? he's hardly the problem when it comes to the current whiskey market. The real problem are the "investors" who buy rare and expansive bottles to sit on a shelf thinking they'll find some poor schlub to pay out the ass for it.
>>21886084The 4000$ Pappy bottles that taste worse than something you could get for 50$ half the time are the biggest symptom of this
>>21886089>half the timeThey're wheated, so more like all of the time.
>>21885874>nobody is watching my channel?>*adds female*>whoa look at my views!
Just made up a quick cocktail for my wife for valentine's day>dealer's choice bourbon 2oz>.75oz lemon juice>1oz Chamberd black raspberry (any berry liqueur will work)>.5oz simple syrup>2-3 dashes grapefruit bitters (any citrus bitters will work)Shake with ice and serve. I am calling it the Soured Love
>>21886269Why is cum not involved?
>>21886273We already did that and are relaxing with some whiskey afterwards
ITT scotchcels trying to troll bourbonchads but bourbonchads are too busy (hunting allocated bourbon and women) to notice
>>21882383Got a Dalmore Sherry Cask finished for 70 after taxes with this.
>Sharing the same taste in whiskey as people who eat cow shitNot like this scotch bros.
>>21886360Dalmore is carpet cleaner
>/wg/ devolves into scotchfags vs bourbonfags spamming yet againeveryone settle down and pour a drink of whatever makes you feel morally superior, it's all whiskey and it's all good (except Canadian)
The willett 4 year rye really is pretty fuckin good if you like a vibrant and punchy rye. Which I do.
>>21886732>pour a drink of whatever makes you feel morally superiorScotch. Morally, intelligently, objectively.
>>21886818YeEasily one of the best ryes out there. I get rock minerals at the back end when I drink mine with young rye notes up front. Just brilliant.
>>21886439this, the top cast Brahmins will flex fucking red label bottles on instagram like its Macallan 12
>>21878618scotchdalits think more water = more flavor
I tried makers mark for the first time in a while and it tastes like bitter oaky almonds with a sweet cinnamon finish.
>>21886732Everything is too expensive and everyone is bitter and it's only going to get worse. Even if there were another whisky loch, they'll fuck it up somehow.
>>21886972there's allocated bottles with previously unobtanium like blanton's gold sitting on store shelves where I live, no one is buying them. Give it another year or two and things will be better.
>>21886818I like Willet but they charge too much at every price point
>>21886983>blandtonsmaybe people have finally realised
Simple as.
i wonder what i'll think of this
>>21886818>>21886876I just opened my first bottle of willet green top today. It was very good but had a very strong dill flavor I still think Sagamore Cask Strength is the best rye on the market.
I'm having a pour of W.B. Saffell and this is really good. It's somewhat comparable to the Russell's pick I have, but much better balanced and a lot more oak, though riding the line of being over oaked imo. And rather than the strong cherries and cinnamon from the Russell's pick I'm getting a more delicate profile of tangerines and apricots and crème brûlée. A store has had these on the shelf connecting dust for a couple of months now and I'm glad I finally overcame my aversion to paying $50/375ml (which somehow feels much worse than paying $100/750ml).>>21887997Oh yeah I love the dill personally. I've been looking for Sagamore CS locally but have yet to ever see it. All I ever see are the regular and double oaked.
>store picks>allocated>bottled in bond>taters>blanton's >Buffalo trace>pappy>store raffle>bournon huntingThere is nothing gayer than the yank cornslop market.
The japanese are putting out good whisky. Picked up Nikka coffee grain. Would recommend.
I'm a rum guy, but I saw a local place selling Michter's Bourbon for $26 a bottle so I grabbed a few. Hard to pass up for that price.
>>21887685i had it once and it tasted like eggnog
>>21888166Had the same thoughts when I first tried Evan Williams. But I think I just had an eggnog spiced up sith this stuff
>>21887997Do you like Kentucky style ryes? Because to me sagamore is really soft and drinks like one. I like sagamore, and it's one of my favorites but it’s hard for me to call that style the best expression of rye whiskey in general.
I wonder what they do with whisky barrels once they are completely spent. I like to think there are parks and playgrounds in Scotland where the mulch all smells like hooch
Best whiskey ever
>>21888326For me? It’s Talisker
>>21888326>be me>live in the middle of nowhere>never see Buffalo Trace, or it's out of stock>finally drive to fucking Omaha of all places>manage to get a bottle for $32>get home, excited to try because everyone loves it>it's okay>I'd never go out of my way to buy it again>wonder if everyone else is just stupid
>dead tired from staying up late drinking whiskey all weekend>Hungover too much to fall asleep
>>21888401Welcome to the sazerac experience.
>>21888425RICO YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO
>>21888309I know some craft breweries buy wood chips from barrels and age their beer with some of that
>>21888401It's just a normal entry level bottle, the hype for it was bizarre
>>21888808Whenever I browse whiskey boomer forums and Facebook I see the same cope like Stagg and EHT use the same mashbill as this cheap 20 dollar Benchmark therefore they are the same juice.Same exact argument car enthusiasts use to say Lamborghini is VW because they share some platforms and some parts. I'm pretty sure it's just poorfags buying the lowest tier BT slop because in their eyes they are Blanton's and EHT.
>>21889418Yeah I've heard this about the Benchmark Full Proof and it's total bullshit. I mean, it's fine if you wanna get fucked up for cheap but it absolutely does not taste like Stagg, you can instantly tell how young it is.
>>21889418I guess the hype for Buffalo Trace bourbon was because the name was associated with unobtanium bottles but the price was entry levelI don't see the same hype for the Benchmark bottles they also make
