Today my second day work in Michelin restaurant, and I'm very shoked; idk it's look very good
michelin stars mean nothing if they're hiring street shitter jeets.
>>21880501michelin star more like me shittin and shart
>>21880497>that will be 50 USD, please
>>21880497my unsolicited opinions
the "people" that eat at these places think molesting kids is the purpose of life.They are inbred freaks and idolizing their stupid shit just because they have money is gross.
I've watched a bunch of vids on youtube from Eater and other channels that show what goes into these fine dining dishes and it really is a substantial amount of work and attention to detail but I still find it hard to believe it tastes that much better than something I can make at home for the price to be justified.
>>21880587You aren't paying for taste you're paying for edible art. It's exactly the same as having gold leaf in goldschlager, the beauty is in the fact that it's fleeting and you need to destroy it to enjoy it.Also people who regularly go to places that serve this are pedophiles. Doesn't say anything about the master chef that crafts the food though they did good.
>>21880583>>>/reddit/
>>21880594There are plenty of fine dining restaurants that focus more on the taste/texture than making it look like abstract art on a plate though.
>>21880597yes even reddit is having trouble with their cognitive dissonance. What's your excuse? You're an inbred twat?
>>21880583Most retarded take I’ve seen recently>>21880497Maybe wait until after work to post? It looks nice, what’s the flavor profile?
>>21880558Europoor here. I love having more purchasing power than you.
>>21880576Based turbo autist.
>>21880600Yeah but those actually feed you decent portions and they come as courses. I like the restaurants where you shit at the chefs counter and you get to watch them in the kitchen making the food. OP's stuff is just instagram slop there's no food.
>>21880587Same applies to most things. You don't really need an expensive car or a vacation to Japan either. Personally as a middle class fag I really like eating at an expensive restaurant every two years or so. It's not so tasty it transcends reality, but the experience as a whole is great and memorable if you don't do it too often.
>>21880696>I like the restaurants where you shit at the chefs counterAm I too European to understand this superior American practice ?
>>21880747It's mainly a Midwest thing. Most of us don't understand it either.
>>21880747You sit and get your food handed right to you, usually it's served to parties of 3 or more at about $50/person, they give you giant platters of stuff and usually there's like 7 courses and everyone shares.
>>21880497>I had dinner with friends at Michelin star restaurant (1 star) last week. >It was at the request of a friend who insisted to dine there, he was footing the bill so the poorbro could join a group of 6.>Two of us ate nearly nothing, everything was laughable, and the poorbro was starving (I had dinner before going to the restaurant).>The dessert came, he broke down and lash out to the maître d'hôtel "Fucking seriously ? Can t we have normal food ???". >The mise en bouche was an ice cream, a mushroom flavored ice cream.
>>21880799>Mushroom flavored ice creamFuck these expensive gay ass restaurants I'd rather go to Arby's and have a sopping wet roast beef sandwich with cheese and leave full than eat a fucking postage stamp sized croûton with 3 saffron stamen, a single rosemary spring with a lone pine nut and some mystery jizz sauce drawn like a dick on the plate.
>>21880799>>21880809Mushroom parfait is god tier
>>21880813Don’t forget the gold leaf, fuckface.
>>21880999Old man yells at food
>>21880999But seriously, what is it about fine dining that makes people seethe so much? Is it jealousy?
>>21881013Poor people have to rationalize their failure by hating everything they cannot afford.
>>21881013At least for me, the main exposure to this food is from people who are flexing their wealth and don't actually give a shit about the food itself. Along with it being totally detached from what most people consider to be traditional good food, it comes off as snobbish.That's enough to generate seethe in insecure people as anon pointed out, ordinary people just do/feel nothing because it's not important.
>>21880799the shitty restaurant that tries to be a fancy cork sniffing establishment is my favorite style of restaurant failure. it's all terrible, it's all weird because that's fancy, and it still costs fancy prices.
>>21881063It's not really a failure if it earned a michelin star, is it?
>>21881086Depends how long it stays in business
>>21881013It s not enjoyable, people just pretend, they behave like museum visitors prentending it s deep and meaningful.>At the table during the dinner>Palacemanagerbro do his cringy wine interrogation>The poor sommelier apprentice can t reply to where the Champagne come from>He knows the name of the village but can t tell if it s near that town or that other one>We all know the region and exactly where the village is, nobody gives a fuck, but Palacemanagerbro is clearly trying to put the apprentice down>They all behave like they live in luxury and can only enjoy the best wine and best food>Palacemanagerbro is bury debt, buy the cheapest groceries in bulk, cant afford to heat his big frozen house, eat the cheapest and shittest food possible, unplug everything and even turn off his internet router when he s not using internet to save on his energy bill (even unplug the microwave "the clock is eating energy")>Every people in the staff earn minimum wage>Poor people pretending to be rich being served by poor peopleIt was shit, last month we had pizza and a good laugh, that time we tried to guess what the fuck was on our plates. I was supposed to eat some whiskas looking pâtée instead of the fucking chicken supreme I was promised. Many time I looked for the camera thinking it was a prank.
>>21881063>>21881098It s a very well known Chef and his friend with one of my friend. My friend is a big shot in the industry, in Paris. I ve spend nearly 4 years touring France and Germany, eating all my meals at restaurants and only at michelin stars ones I feel that uneasy. Clearing made for nouveau rich retards and boomers.
>>21881104>eslcultural opinons disregarded
>>21880548lmaoooooooo spbp
>>21880762Yes. The funny part is that you said "shit".
>>21880594>It's exactly the same as having gold leaf in goldschlagerGold leaf anything is the tackiest food trend ever. It focuses on status projection over the food or drink, and it's a poor person's idea of status at that. It doesn't take any artistry either.Just had a look and there's only $1.40 worth of gold in an entire bottle of that stuff. You could throw away a some loose change and it would be as decadent as drinking an entire bottle of that stuff. There's only about 10 cent in a double shot.
>>21881028One day later and still nobody has even tried to argue against this
>>21880587One big difference with Michelins is that they source ingredients that you can't actually buy at the supermarket.For instance, they should be using far superior cocoa products in that dish. Otherwise, like you say, there's not really much point to the inflated price since you could make your own version of it.
>>21883063The prices aren't even that bad per dish. It's expensive because you're paying for maybe 10 courses.
>>21883089And they overcharge for wine to compensate, forgot to mention that
>>21880799There’s a reason Marco Pierre White handed his stars back and told Michelin to go fuck themselves.
>>21881013‘Fine dining’ is not automatically ’good dining’. At a certain point it becomes consumption for its own sake, so you can say you ate at place X. At that point it’s not about the food, it’s about the social currency and flexing online.Even Rene Redzepi is widely regarded as a charlatan now, and El Bulli spent years at the top of the Michelin guide. Heston Blumenthal made no money from The Fat Duck, to the point it cost him his house, his personal relationships and almost his life.I have worked in the kitchens of Matt Moran, Neil Perry and Tetsuya Wakuda (in his Kinsela’s days) and I can tell you that contemporary ’fine dining’ has disappeared up its own arse.
>>21880799>a mushroom flavored ice cream.I had a mandarin sorbet with black chantarelles for dessert at a restaurant and it was one of the best desserts I've ever had.
I want to get into fine dining for the learning opportunity. How hard is it? How long should I put up with it? My head chef, sous chef and CDP both did fine dining so I wonder if they could help me out.
>>21885279I've been to a few Michelin Star restaurants, most in Chicago. What's hilarious is most of them were good, but not 100's of dollars worth do good, and the best restaurant experience I've had in recent memory was at the Publican with zero Michelin stars. If you're in Chicago ever, that place is fucking great. Roister and NEXT can shove it.
>>21880680Are you Swiss, Norwegian, or Luxembourgish?
>>21885307What role are you aiming for?
>>21880583
>>21886868Commis chefI just want to learn as much as possible
>>21885288>Heston Blumenthal made no money from The Fat Duck, to the point it cost him his house, his personal relationships and almost his life.Yes, but so what? If anything, it debunks the idea that fine dining is "overpriced". It just means that some people take their job or their hobby way too far. Professional sports and professional musicianship aren't healthy either.
>>21880501This.Hire Calle de Merde Mexicanos.
>>21885288>At a certain point it becomes consumption for its own sake, so you can say you ate at place X. At that point it’s not about the food, it’s about the social currency and flexing online.Or maybe you just file it away in your mind and appreciate the good memories of that meal or delightful evening. Not everyone lives in social media like that.As far as failures, no matter the money and acclaim, restaurants have a very low success rate. There are tons of famous chef/restaurant names that are paid for anchoring a hotel, and not even there to make a profit but to draw in hotel and catering and convention business.
>>21882993>it's a poor person's idea of status at thatWhy do you think McDonalds leaned into it with their gold sauce a few months ago? Frankly, it's proof there's still social mobility in the world.
>>21887053Ah nice, unfortunately I’m not in the industry but hopefully an anon has some advice
>>21881013Basically there is an upper limit on detectable food quality. Past that and human brains artificially inflate the quality based on price. Science has infamously fucked with vinos by passing off cheap wines as expensive ones to blind participants and they rate the wine higher solely on cost. So people seething about stuff that is artificially high for what it is, that is a reaction to corporate greed AND richfag excess waste, because these corpos are taking advantage of people's brain farts. As well as the plebs who enjoy the expensive shit and pretend they are better than anyone else for it. This is encapsulated by the phrase "can't get full on fancy". Also, remember poors are eating struggle meals. Any depiction of fancy meals that are SMALLER than their struggle meals while being triple digit prices is a MASSIVE insult because it's an unfair waste of resources. If you are stuck eating rice and beans and see some richfag paid $1000 for some dust and a cookie on a plate, the amount of rage that generates is immeasurable. The richfag could have had a literal cookie cake for $50 of that and the poorfag could have eaten well for a year on the $950, making the richfag happier (in the poor's mind) AND the poorfag WAY happier (not starving). Obviously the richfag is never happy because they have an unsustainable appetite for MORE.
>>21888604This might be how people think, but they're still wrong. If anything, fine dining is a wealth transfer from the rich to the middle class. The resources are mostly human labor, which doesn't translate directly into farmland and oil and factories. Meanwhile, many poorfags love nothing more than richfags wasting resources (kardashians, mr beast, jake paul, all sorts of tiktok faggots). For some reason they can vicariously enjoy someone else's car but not someone else's meal.
>>21880497If someone served me this I'd beat the shit out of them.
>>21888994>ooga booga
>>21881013yes
>>21888994It's nice to fantasize about the kind of person you wish you were sometimes, isn't it?
