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>be me
>go to a thai restuarant for the first time
>order a curry (never had one before)
>expect some spicy barely edible sloppa
>its actually the best fucking thing I've ever eaten
>spend months trying more yellow curries
>chicken, beef, pork belly, salmon and shrimp
>all were fantastic
Okay. I come to you all with my hat in my hand. What is the secret? How do I make this bone apple tea at home?
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it's coconut milk
it's delicious
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Don't. You are just going to waste money. That's me and red curry. They add some shit in the restaurant you don't know about. I bought the curry paste, coconut milk, lime, all the seasonings and it just tasted like shit
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The right balance of sweet, salty and sour.
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>>21904993
>balance of sweet, salty and sour.
Absolutely this.
You can replicate it at home, but only with more than the pairing up of "thai curry paste" + canned coconut milk. Thai is all about the freshness. There will be fresh herbs, freshly grated ginger, galangal, smashed lemongrass, curry leaves, fresh chilies, and so forth.

You can still approximate it and cook at home. My local asian grocery carries half of the ingredients in the freezer. I usually sub coconut cream for the milk. I always add fresh chilies, basil and cilantro. I am not adverse to simmer sauces, but they are always low on the coconut.
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>>21904963
Oh is it like Chinese resturaunts and their Magical Seasoning Games?
>>21904999
I'm going to put it in the slow cooker anon. First I'll simmer the the base and dump everything into a crockpot
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>>21904947you need this exact brand and product. follow instructions on the back but add a little extra curry paste, usually about 15-20% more. you'll need to salt it and it's very good with some extra msg and sugar. the type of sugar matters, the more complex it is, the better the taste, e.g. dark brown > light brown > turbanado > white sugar
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>>21905005
>slow cooker
Zero purpose unless you are going to simmer bone-in chicken parts? Nothing else in a thai needs needs hours.
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The few times I have gone it has never been spicy enough. Very disappointing.
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>>21904999
ive subbed coconut milk with heavy cream and it worked fantastically....idk about milk though, I think you really need the fat in the milk to really tie it together.
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>>21905149
I am sure it was great. When I buy a Sharwoods thai red curry simmer sauce, I splash in some of my Half n Half, which I have on hand for my coffee. I don't want a whole can of coconut wasted for just a small amount. It'll reduce a bit too.
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>>21904947
Is it a Thai restaurant that has mainly non-Thai customers? Then
> you need this exact brand and product. follow instructions on the back but add a little extra curry paste
It will be OK. But if you want authentic tasting Thai curry, you need to make the paste yourself from scratch. Not hard if you can get a mortar and pestle and the correct ingredients. Makes a huge difference. Good luck!
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Use mae ploy or maesri curry paste if not making your own. Buy coconut milk in a carton, not canned..Cook the coconut milk until the fat separates and fry your curry paste in this coconut fat.
To boost flavor, add things such as bruised lemongrass, kaffir lime leaves, galangal or other fresh or even frozen herbs depending on the curry. I always add some extra shrimp paste as well since I like the funkyness and umami it brings.
And like others said, right balance of sweet, salty and sour. Use palm sugar to sweeten, fish sauce for salt and tamarind and lime juice for acidity. Add the lime juice at the end though, the lime juice loses its brightness when simmered.
Lastly, Thai curries are generally not long stews and are a bit more soupy than a Western stew.
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>>21905011
Palm sugar is the type you want.
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>>21904947
So you're saying that you ordered something that you thought would be barely edible? What a silly little cunt
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>>21904947
>go to a thai restuarant for the first time
how did you get to at least 18 years of age without trying thai food?
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>>21905175
>I don't want a whole can of coconut wasted for just a small amount
what the fuck? you're suppose to use the whole can
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>>21905366
>coconut milk in a carton, not canned
nah canned coconut milk is the superior option. you just need to buy a thai one and not a shitty imitation with gums
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>>21904947
Op if you actually want to enjoy thai food at home listen to these people at least:
>>21905181
>>21905366

>>21904963
Are you using a recipe?
I know that’s frowned upon for some reason but, with cuisines that aren’t from America or Europe it’s definitely best to:
> find a chef obviously from the region you’re cooking from
> read their recipes
> get FRESH spices

It’s doable at home, i make a great panang curry. You don’t have to adhere to a recipe, but you should be referencing.
I’ve only made this one thai dish, and used the recipe below with the semi-homemade curry paste. Also subbed white fish because i don’t like pork
https://hot-thai-kitchen.com/panang-curry/

>>21905011
Good tip, i do usually use more curry paste than the recipes
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>>21904947
fresh lemongrass is a must. should be available in almost any asian grocer. if they have it they should also most certainly have that maesri paste stuff
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>>21905366
all good advice. Is boxed coconut milk really that much better though? Any particular brand? I don't think I've ever seen it not in a can
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>>21905493
I don't like spicy food and it's not hard to avoid places known primarily for spicy food
>>21905439
However this time I was invited out and because I'm not a complete asshole I did what my friend wanted to do.
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>>21905838
I would take what that anon says with a pinch of salt. ie. they are bulshitting and just picked items they read about on wikipedia.

It happens on /ck/ all the time.

Unless you live in SE Asia, you will NEVER find these items fresh, they just tell lies but do the best you can with what you can find.

To answer your question, the coconut blocks are Ok, just shave off pieces and mix them with hot water to form a thick milk.
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>>21905510
>>21905838
Yes, carton coconut milk is better than canned, all else equal. It's been heated less agressively and as a result contains more of the coconut flavor. Obviously, a shitty carton of coconut milk filled with additives such as guar gum will still be worse than a good quality can of coconut milk with few additives. Aroy-d is my brand of choice for coconut milk. I'm in Western Europe and can easily find both cartons and cans of Aroy-d.

>>21906940
Not bullshitting, there is a reason canned coconut milk lasts way longer than that from cartons and that's because the milk has been heated more. And like I said, I'm not in SEA at all and can easily find cartons of coconut milk. No need to be such a salty chap.
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>>21907050
I don't think you understand at all.
I was talking to the anon about a creamed coconut block. it's nothing to do with cartons or UHT.
I suggest you understand the convo a little more before you spout off!
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>>21906940
You can’t be lied to about vegetable/herb freshness if you have working eyes and nose.
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>>21905018
>The few times I have gone it has never been spicy enough. Very disappointing.

Were the customers mostly white or mostly asian? Asian resturants know their customer base and season accordingy.
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>>21907154
If you are American - you have no idea about fresh anything.
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>>21905181
>if you want authentic tasting [xyz], then you need to make everything from scratch
If you wanna go the extra mile and do everything from scratch you can go right ahead, but getting nice ingredients and having a good recipe will already put you ahead of 90% of people making the dish in its home country every single day. Just follow Hot Thai Kitchen’s recipe to the letter—at least when you first make it—and get brands of staple ingredients that she (and the broader internet) recommends.
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>>21907231
What is the best chicken broth for someone who intends to go to Heaven?
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>>21907212
That's a real stupid opinion
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>>21907212
You know some of us grow our own produce over here.
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If anyone is having a hard time sourcing ingredients, here are two online Asian grocery stores. Wife is Chinese, used to like FreshGoGo, now prefers Weee.

https://www.freshgogo.com/?language=en

https://www.sayweee.com/en
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Bump
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>>21904947
Fuck yea. Coconut milk, Thai chillies, soy sauce, fish sauce, lemon grass and lemon tree leaves off the top of my head.
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Im trying to eat healthier lately and ive been cooking every day now because i have nothing else to do and neet at the moment
Ive eaten curry every day for the last 3 weeks and i can never get it right
I bought a red curry paste and i make chicken curry with Chicken breast rice Carrots and Brocoli and its good but whenever i dont use paste its somehow off a bit
I made a homemade paste with 1 Onion Ginger dryed Chilli peeper salt garlic and cumin and tried it in a shrimp curry
Its good but its off a little i dont know what im missing maybe i prepared it wrong or i should have used more spices or whatever
Its as spicy as the red curry and has a bit of heat but not much
its still good because the coconut milk gives it a special taste but somehow its off
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>>21912824
picrel is what I made today
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>>21912824
Do you put any curry powder in your homemade paste?
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>>21912824
Think a little more about what is off
Too bitter, sweet, bland, sour..?
Address it that way
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>>21912828
No Curry powder is just a spicy mix of cumin/chilly etc and i already hada ll those ingridens in the paste so i didnt think i need to add them in again
>>21912837
It tasted to creamy
I added 250ml in this time and not enough water so the curry was a bit more viscous than usually
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>>21912824
When you say Ginger, I hope you mean either fresh or a paste . . .dried ginger powder is VERY different and should not be used for curries.

Another surprise ingredient to Thai curries is fish sauce (or variants thereof) - it doesn't smell too appealing which puts many off but taste-wise it really is needed.

Hope this helps
>t.curry loving Bong.
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>>21912864
P.S.
You also never mentioned Lemongrass, so I thought I would mention that too.
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>>21904963
Sounds like you are just a cooklet
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>>21912864
I used a fresh piece of Ginger and grinded it into a pastw with a Cheese Grinder samw with the garlic and onion
Then i sliced up the Chillies and added the salt pepper and Cumin powder and put it into an Onion Chopper and grinded ot down there until a paste formed
I didn't find any onion grass and i dont have any fish sauce but i will try ot next tome
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>>21912867
NTA but I was told that lime juice would work. Is lemongrass better for any particular reason?
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>>21904947
Dunno about yellow curry but generic boxed jap Golden Curry is my favourite one pot meal
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>>21907100
>coconut cream block
Oh man I have not seen one of those in years. I used to always cut a little fragment off to dissolve in my mouth when I was cooking with them.
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>>21907525
Pic related is excellent, if you can find it. It’s also Taiwanese not Chinese so you know it’s not made out of toxic waste, diseased animals and clumsy workers.
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>>21913280
>NTA but I was told that lime juice would work. Is lemongrass better for any particular reason?
Yes.
It doesn't taste of lemon or lime or anything citrus really, if anything it tastes like the smell of hay?

I can't get it fresh where I live in the UK, it's kind of semi-dried, maybe some Asian places in the USA have similar?
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Make your own curry paste. You can control the flavors a lot more easily. I usually do something like 2-3 serranos, a shallot, a handful of fresh ginger slices, fresh lemongrass, a handful of green bell pepper slices, 3-5 cloves of garlic, some spices ahhh I forget what they are right now and some salt. For a green curry.

Same logic for yellow and red. Just keep messing with it until it’s closer to the flavor you liked at the restaurant. Don’t forget that a lot of the flavor is also going to come from the sugar and fish sauce and coconut milk you add afterwards (how much you use) as well as the quality of the stock you’re using, if you’re also using stock.
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>>21913506
You also don’t need a mortar and pestle. Food processor works just as good.
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>>21905366
>Cook the coconut milk until the fat separates and fry your curry paste in this coconut fat.
I know many people do this, but I like the emulsified coconut milk texture, not separated.
>>21905838
No it isn't any better...it's huge but lets you use it in several recipes.
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>>21913506
>some spices ahhh I forget what they are right now and some salt. For a green curry.
I detect you are talking bollocks.
I am the curry loving Brit here >>21912864
If you don't know the primary ingredient of Thai Green Curry then you are talking shite.
>inb4 you go Chat GPT or wikipedia.
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>>21913516
Living in England doesnt make you a Brit, Mohammed.
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>>21913524
Boring.
We have far less muslims per capita here than you have blacks in the USA. Why should I justify myself to you Tyrone?
Ima axe u nicely - Stick to your Collard greens and Lowrys and let adults discuss real food.
Thankies.
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>>21913524
Muslims and Indians hate each other Anon if you wanted to insult him than youd have to call him a jeet for it to make any sense since gor his like of curry
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>>21913524
Aren't Thai people relatively liked here? Femboys and Asians and all that? I assumed thats why this thread was almost tame up to this point.
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>>21913574
> Anon if you wanted to insult him than youd have to call him a jeet
It would zero impact either way.
I'm an English guy who happens to like curries. This thread was about Thai curries and maybe he should have used some Buddhist insults too?

Either way, it wouldn't have bothered me, I'm an English white guy, I don't give two hoots about Brown people they can all die in a fire, I don't give a toss.
We have the recipes.
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>>21913516
I got the recipe online
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>>21912899
Hurry up and cook it nigga i'm waiting
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>>21913506
Would you say its better than the restaurant of more of a tie?
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>>21913653
Just FYI none of what you wrote sounded like proper English nor did it come across like a White man wrote it. However because I want a good curry recipe I won't harp on it.
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>>21914573
>wrote
Written*
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>>21904949
It's fresh coconut milk. Not that canned/carton garbage you've been weaned into by supermarket ads and scraper sites.

>>21904947
Step 1: Use google translate English to Thai. Ask for simple recipe titles.
Step 2: Ask AI which Thai cooking websites aren't rehashed garbage/media conglomerates/sponsored by supermarkets. AI responds better to positive queries like "grandma's recipes", "Michelin tier websites", "traditional Thai cooking", "Thai buddhist monk food" or "Thai cooking school".
Step 3: go to their website and paste the Thai moon runes you got in step 1.
Step 4: copy/paste whatever runes you got back into Google translate, Thai to English.

In the English language there's David Thompson: a few recipes https://swillhouse.com/swill-magazine/david-thompson-recipes/. on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@davidthompson3018/videos. great books as well ("Thai food", 2002, 673 pages).
Chef McDang is a member of the Thai royal family, teaches at Le Cordon Bleu, has an English language book ("The Principles of Thai Cookery") and youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnzF1BuDY4lEiyrezN-_qUA
Phaidon is an exceptional cookbook editor. They spent 3 years collecting rural Thai cuisine: https://www.phaidon.com/en-eu/products/thailand-the-cookbook
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>>21914301
Better than the restaurant. Keep in mind that you’re able to control the flavor more towards your flavor. So if you like it sweeter, you can add more sugar. Or if you wish it wasn’t so salty, you can cut back on some of the sodium. It’s about messing with it until you find what you like best.

By the way, at a typical Thai restaurant, if the ask you on a scale of 1 to 10 how spicy you want your curry, they’re just saying how much of the store-bought curry paste should they put in there. In a from-scratch Thai curry, if you want it hot, put more of your peppers in there. I find that I’m preferring the fresher taste of the homemade paste vs. the store bought stuff that’s been sitting in a jar forever. That may or may not be you, but you won’t really know until you’ve tried it yourself and messed around with it.
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>>21914573
What a pompous mong you are.

Well, I guess I must be brown then because some numpty on a Vietnamese puppet dancing forum said I am.
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>>21915873
I don't care if you're brown, black, or orange. I just want a good curry recipe
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Yeh Thai is some tasty tucker aye cunt
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do you *really* need fish sauce? this stuff sucks ass
also i like actually searing the chicken first, then deglaze it with coconut milk and add the curry paste, cook until its dissolved and smelling nice
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>>21904947
>How do I make this bone apple tea at home?
>fly to Thailand
>take Thai cooking classes
>enjoy benis
>fly home
>deal with crippling STDs for the rest of your life but at least you can make your own curry
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>>21904947
literally me.
maybe not the best fucking thing ever, but it was pretty darn good
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>>21905011
Can confirm. Get this brand. Don't use salt though, get some Thai fish sauce.

Also, try dry red curry paste chicken. Fucking amazing and very easy to make.
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>>21916195
I haven't seen a single recipe that doesn't require it.
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>>21916390
Meant for>>21916133
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>>21916133
I use soy sauce instead sometimes. It’s good.
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MSG
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>>21916390
>>21916395
Don't be shy now anon. Knowing you enjoy benis with your meal is an important fact that more people should definitely know about you.
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IS coconut Milk really necessary?
It has a shit ton of calories 200ml of it add 400 extra calories to the dish and im trying to lose weight
Can i substitute with something else?
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>>21917474
>IS coconut Milk really necessary?
>Can i substitute with something else?
Of course you can, you just shouldn't because it won't taste as good. Why are you eating curries when you're trying to lose weight, they require a ton of oil
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Been working on eating healthy at home for a while. Went for a thai meal with family and was immediately shitting my guts out once I got home. Is it food poisoning or just the cost of eating out?
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>>21917551
cost of eating out or maybe your not used to spices
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>>21917549
Im not that good at cooking and want to do a bit more myself instead of eating takeway and premade stuff and curry looks realy easy to make and healthy if made properly
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A few things I've learned - add fish sauce and palm sugar to taste to balance out the saltiness and sweetness, you could sub regular sugar for palm sugar if you don't have it but the fish sauce is important.

The lady at the thai grocer I spoke to laughed at me when I told her I was making the curry paste myself, she said nobody does it that way and it doesn't make a difference - I stubbornly proceeded and indeed I can't say that the homemade green curry paste I painstakingly researched made much difference in the end.

Check out Pailin's hot thai kitchen on youtube, she has great videos on all things thai cooking - I'm sure you will find something there.
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>>21907525
Whats wrong with Swanson
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>>21906940
You just need to find a decent Asian grocer, and you might have to drive to the next larger city for that.

I think the Restaurant Depot near me has Thai basil. Your Thai restaurant is probably getting a lot of things from a restaurant supply wholesaler, including huge cans of coconut milk.

Woks of Life is usually good for this kind of recipe. You can do better at home than most restaurants with a bit of shopping and effort.
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>>21917625
>The lady at the thai grocer I spoke to laughed at me when I told her I was making the curry paste myself
Probably because she's undoubtedly some ex-whore from Isaan brought home by some sex tourist who thought he was saving her, and now all she does is make tendies for him.
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>>21918303
I must imagine them happy.
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>>21918311
Well yeah they both got laid a lot. Eventually you have to settle down.
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>>21904947
>What is the secret?
Ginger and tumeric.
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>>21917625
I really have to disagree. I did a side by side comparison of a store bought paste and my homemade paste. The homemade paste tasted a lot more fresh and alive.
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this is such a great thread that all the paid slop shills bury
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>>21920578
Hey i really appreciate that.
-OP
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>>21910664
>lemon tree leaves
What the fuck?
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>>21920579
what can i say, threads like this is why i come here. So thank (You), OP. The catalog recently made me quite sad. I have a book on thai cooking that was recommended to me ages ago, by David Thompson. Hope I get around to actually reading it sometime
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>>21916390
i just dont like the taste or smell of fish sauce
the one time ive used it it seemed the curry itself went bad in like a day as it started to bubble...
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>>21920587
you mean the paste started to fermented or the curry started to go bad when cooked?
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>>21913498
Every supermarket has it fresh



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