I'm looking to make my own lembas/caloriemate to take backpacking. Important considerations are calories per weight, shelf stability, nutrition, and how easy it is to poop out. The goal is something 135+ cal/z, high protein and fat, low sugar, and keep for two weeks wrapped in my pack. Pic is first test attempt. 1 cup oats0.5 cup walnut0.25 cup seeds (flax, sesame, etc)0.5 cup powdered milk0.5 cup peanut butter0.5 cup coconut oil0.25 cup cocoa0.25 cup honeyDash saltDash cornstarchDash waterGrind dry ingredients together, melt fats, mixBake at 350I was shooting for a dense cake and got it, but it's too dry and crumbly and needs more binder. No eggs because I'm concerned about spoilage. Next I think I'll try adding some dried fruit and 4x the oils. The consistency of extremely firm taffy or one of those hipster date bars would be ideal I think, though melting on a hot day is a risk for such a high fat content. Using ground fruit as the primary substrate will not meet my nutritional goals. Suggestions or recipes?
it looks like a pre-digested turd
Just get dried meat, fruit, vegetables and a bunch of nuts.
>>21917209I assure you, should you shit this out, your anus would be sundered in twain. Your rectum wrecked. Your o ring an oh no ring.>>21917230Gorp and jerky are typically what I carry. But the isn't enough fiber, variety is nice, and I want to cook something instead of just buying junk. God forbid someone post about cooking on /cu/ck/
>>21917171replace oats with more nuts/peanut butter and dry fruit
>>21917171Excellent.Its a vegetarian Nutriloaf.
Just eat GORP, man. Throw some M&Ms in or something.
>>21917256Not enough fiber in raisins and peanuts? What?You're probably just not drinking enough water. You need to stsrt hydrating the day prior.
>>21917256don't forget this is an anime site first and foremost and anything about cooking is secondary to posting pink little catgirls and frozen chicken nuggets.
lmao op your idea sucks and you suck. just buy beef jerky like a real man
>>21917171Is the baking just to cook the oats and dry it out? Seems like it would be hard to not have it be dry and crumbly unless it has more goo (like date paste, honey, or sugar syrup)I think some MRE’s had a dense nut cake, maybe there’s a knockoff recipe o that could be used as a reference
I'd make protein bars that are basically flapjacks with fruit and beef jerky in it.
>>21917171>but it's too dry and crumbly and needs more binder Aquafava
>>21917289>he doesn't know the difference between soluble and insoluble fiber>>21917295Cook the oats and induce chemical change for binding. I make my own granola which isn't too different and this is an important step. It clearly does need more too, but I don't want it to end up sticky or greasy, either. I thought a cake would be ideal, but after trying it and thinking, a firmer texture is better. MRE recipes are a good thought, but the amount of preservatives and dehydration involved in them are not the direction I want to go here
>>21917292lean protein is a shitty energy source, you need fat and carbs
>>21917171I've got some breakfast bars I make that are pretty calorie-dense.>8 oz. can of sweetened condensed milk.>16 oz. jar of peanut butter (heated up so it's runny).>1 cup of oats>Optional raisins, chocolate chips, anything else you want to add.>Mix condensed milk and peanut butter until uniform.>Stir in the oats and your mix-ins.>Spread in a greased baking dish and keep it in the fridge overnight, uncovered.I suggest cutting them into bars a few hours after you put them in the fridge, so they've set but not dried out yet. Once they've set overnight, they're shelf-stable for at least a week or so, probably a good deal more but I've never kept them longer. They're a little crumbly, but keep them in a ziploc and you'll be fine.
>>21917314Aquafaba or chia seeds occurred to me by I have never used either before. Do they go rancid after congealing?
Add ripe bananas as a binder
>>21917328Condensed milk is a good thought. I will try this in the morning. A no bake that depends solely on chilling for structure will get too goopy. I've had chocolate melt on me and it sucks.>>21917346This will work but not keep very long.
>>21917322Yes this>>21917331Aquafaba is a supersaturated vegetable protein solution, it’s probably one of your safest bets to replace egg white while minimising risk of spoilage.
I'd just take the jar of peanut butter, possibly a loaf of bread depending on conditions. How many days exactly is this supposed to be for?
I just hike with cans of chef boyardee like a gigantic fucking retard.your mishmash of ingredients looks peak energy and nutrition OP, but you won't enjoy it. be sure to bring something you can really enjoy, some sugary sweets, jerky, fresh berries for day one, etc.
Don't forget to micro dose while looking up at the stars
>>21917459or macro dose
>>21917292Ruhhhh Roh Reddit we got a real man a man who eats MEAT but not just any MEAT but MEAT PACKAGED WITH FUCKING BOMBS ANS BOMBS WOEZIER HAHAH VERY MANLY BIG BEARED AND GUT AND BEER YEAH BEER I DRINK IT SO WHAT. YIU WANT GO FIGHT ABOUT IT PUNK? THOUGHT NOT ILL SUE YOU OF YOU LAY A HAND ON ME
>>21917424Nice, I'll see if I can get some. I live in the sticks so sourcing it might be tough.>>21917436I have several 1-2 week through hikes scheduled this year. I'm trying to plan these without resupply so weight and volume are important considerations. Raw peanut butter is great for calories per weight, but lacks meaningful protein and isn't really enjoyable to eat just by itself.>>21917451I have done this too. All the salt in that canned sloppa is fantastic but I find the taste awful. Loved it as a kid, now I can't even eat it as midnight drunk chow; rip my nostalgia. Toting around a bunch of cans on a long hike also sucks.Bringing food you enjoy is great advice. That's a big part of why I'm fucking around with this: taste and nutrition profiles that satisfy me, pleasant and varied texture (definitely not grinding ingredients together again in this), the ability to snack on a chunk without cooking or making a mess all contribute to a pleasant meal on the trail. All the salt coating and tough texture of jerky and trail mix chaps the shit out of my lips and makes me immediately thirsty, so I'm looking to tamp that down. I don't care for super sweet stuff, though getting it on the trail does trigger lizard brain cravings. Again, something I'm looking to rein in to increase my enjoyment. Yoyoing blood sugar and appetite spikes are annoying. I'm autistic enough to appreciate the known routine of eating something familiar every day, but don't intend to make this my only food. I do wish I was hobbitmaxxed enough to carry my cast irons along and cook up a few good taters.Cook along posts for new loaf attempt coming this afternoon.
>>21917171https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUAayg3D0XA
Got my goo, let's see how it turns out this time. Skipping honey because I think the condensed milk is sweet enough.
Added 1 cup dried cranberry.
Smells like Thai curry. Another benefit of learning to make this; I can make different flavors once I get it dialed in.
Oh anon it's sooo thicccc~
Made more than I thought
Going to cool one fully on the counter and freeze one overnight to compare consistencies. Top feels crunchy.
>>21918350J/C KYS
>>21918377Looks pretty cohesive, I bet it tastes really good
>>21917171>, high protein and fat, low sugar,why
>>21918384Smells good and a crumb did as well.Soft consistency on the underside. I'm optimistic about it.
This is fucking retarded and gay. Take tortillas and peanut butter like everyone else you fat fuck
>>21918521YEA OPTHIS IS A FAST FOOD BOARD, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO COOK HERE
>>21918525Making a lump of shit for hiking modeled after some mythical elf food is gay and retarded, this shit is going to break into crumbs and you're gonna be eating handfuls of powder on the trail like a retard
>>21917872You live somewhere you can’t get canned garbanzo beans?
>>21918552Ah that is a good point. I will pick some up and continue experimenting.Crumb shot. Still mildly warm, very soft and floppy. Tastes great but could use more cocoa. Thanks to >>21917328 for the condensed milk suggestion. I can feel the granular texture of the sugar, so these should solidify nicely. Looking forward to breakfast.Seeing the level of love for my lembas loaf, I will post daily updates on my progress.
>>21918613Wing image
>>21917171>pemmican>substitute whatever for the meat, heavier emphasis on darker berries>chia for Omega 3>additional citric acid at the end (or Vitamin E) for shelf stabilityFreeze dry it.
>>21918617Nice, hopefully some good overnight melding
Excellent breakfast, very filling and good taste. Had a chunk of the one left on the counter. Still very soft after sitting overnight but holds together well. The one in the freezer has firmed up nicely. This recipe has 1 cup coconut oil and 2 of peanut butter; I'll reduce that slightly and add a little more cocoa. 1/4 cup wasn't enough; the flavor was subsumed by the coconut. I will also add some of the suggested binder; my concern about it becoming too soft in a hot pack was well founded.
Put the counter loaf in the fridge to firm it up more. I will use one as a control test and leave it for an extended period to see how it keeps. I am also planning to eat nothing but lembas for the next few days to see how it affects my bowel movements.
I appreciate your DIY method but it looks like dried shit. Buy protein bars in bulk. You won't get tired if there's a variety of flavor.
>>21920060I assure you, the shits are not dry.
>>21920056>I am also planning to eat nothing but lembas for the next few days to see how it affects my bowel movements.Ayyy good luck
>>21917209>>21917171Looks the same going out as it does going inThis could be a problem if you let your attention lapse.
>>21917171creative oppemmican with oats or whatever grains would be my first ideaor hardtack biscuit with egg thrown inegg keeps perfectly well in biscuits and egg pasta
>>21919157>>21920056I thought you wanted to avoid cold-based firming because you expect them to ultimately sit in a potentially hot pack.
>>21920333You have a point on the egg, though both pasta and hardtack are very dry. The first attempt in the op is essentially oat pemmican, though peanut butter and coconut oil don't render in to tallow.>>21920452Yes, I do. But I'm not above trying it anyway, especially since the current version wasn't firm enough without a binder. This was addressed in a previous post.After an overnight in the fridge, the consistency is excellent. I will leave this now on the counter to see how it persists at room temperature after chilling. The control loaf remains wrapped and ready for examination in a week. Taste is still good on day 3. The next version will contain binding agents.
After returning to room temperature, the lembas loaf has become noticeably softer. Interestingly, it's also noticeably former after warming up all day than it was after cooling down from cooking. It is still too squishy for taking in my pack. Tomorrow I will purchase binders.
>>21920690>eggif youre worried about spoilage just use the whites, thats the binder anyway. or buy powdered egg, but since youre baking it, just use egg whites bro. apple(s)/sauce or nanners would be a good binder too
>>21921725>Tomorrow I will purchase binders.Full of women?
>>21921838I was considering using powdered egg whites for protein already, so if it will pull double duty all the better.>>21922287Yes. Flat women are justice.After four days taste and texture regain unchanged. Looking promising.
>>21918613Just a heads up aquafaba by itself (chickpea juice) is good, but a little secret is adding a very small amount of cream of tartar if you plan on whipping them into an egg white fluff (just practical advice)
