Whiskey generalstop buying more whiskey than you can drink edition Previous thread >>21898665
Here are the bottles I got right now what am I missing?Willet green top New rift single barrelGreen river ryePenelope toasted rye High west double rye Sagamore csBulleit rye Kc 21Barrel batch 36Old forester store pick (blue bottle) Bookers jimmy’s batch Wild turkey 8Wt101Penelope architect Jd heritage Eh Taylor smb Bushmills 12Dingle single malt
>>21920743anything good
>>21920298>UNCLE NEARESTdamn
>>21920760Filtered
>>21920764What is dingle single malt
>>21920880supposedly decent Irish priced higher than Bushmills with no age statement
Should I buy two handles of wt 101? I have more whiskey than I know what to do with already but this stuff is something I feel good about giving to my alcoholic friends for a single night
>>21920880It's sold for the price.
>>21920298>Nigger whiskey>Reddit imageFaggot
Pic related, all you need.
>juice>crushable>solid for the price>daily driver>allocated>hazmat>bottle share
costco bulleit and costco bulleit ryeyeah it's runescape time
>>21921251Explain, in your own words, without using any retarded reaction images, what exactly is wrong with the phrase "solid for the price."
>>21921251If these are slang terms, I haven't heard of half of them.
>>21921399Yes and I should admit that I lurk whiskey subreddits too much. Juice and crushable are especially overused terms over there. I'm still not sure what crushable means but they use it to describe whiskey in every other review. Anyway, yes I should kms for using r*ddit
>>21921538I have heard people say stuff like, "Man, I just crushed that [food/drink]!" I guess we can infer it means "to eat/drink something because it's so good." But who can say?
>>21921538buzzword for something they want to shill with the caveat that its unimpressive, but very drinkable. showcasing why they are retarded because if something is unimpressive why are you bothering to drink it? "um they did a heckin good job ok so you need to buy it anyways or you're a chud".
>>21920298How is this stuff so good? Heard the guy who made the recipe got screwed by Jack Daniel’s
Rye bros I was able to locate a bottle of new rift balboa. This is not a drill.
>>21922022Is it actually good?
>>21922086How is it? I am thinking about buying a 1924 at $130
>>21922108>bourbon>from Brown-Forman>nearly 3× the price of Rare Breedcouldn't be me
>>21922105Yea, I saw it on shark tank last week and bought a few bottles and it’s good. Plus it helps good causes and the story was inspiring.
>shark tank>few bottlesIs this what you call rage baiting?
>>21922295It sounded good on TV, I went to the store and purchased two varieties of it, end of.
>>21921209yes, I too drink the same whisky over and over again like a boring pisshead
>>21922375You sound mad. You have two options: you can either cry about it, or you can suck your own ass.
Anyone have any opinions/info on Ileach Islay whisky? It's relatively cheap here in Japan and I've bought a few bottles and it's good for the price. Who distills it?
>>21920743>Jd heritagethis is finally showing up where I live (Costco had tons), I keep debating whether I should get one but since it's a single barrel the reviews I've read make it sound like you can either get one that is incredible or one that's almost a drain pour and not much in between
>>21922108I don’t usually drink old forester but my guy at the liquor store kept telling me about this store pick they got so I bought it. It’s pretty good I paid 100 for it and it’s 132 proof. Old forester seems a little overpriced for what it is but does have a good flavor profile going from what I have.>>21922523I’ve tried a couple different bottles and they all seemed pretty comparable. This is my buddies favorite right now but it’s too sweet for me to rate it like that. If you like sweet bourbon this is the one for you. Very strong jd banana flavor on the finish too. Usually they are only 50-60 dollars so it’s a pretty safe bet to buy one.
>>21922295It’s obv a joke retard the brand is a hilarious pyramid scheme currently being sued
>>21922376retarded response from a retarded alchie
>>21922585>Usually they are only 50-60 dollars so it’s a pretty safe bet to buy one.weird, because it was $69.99 which is state minimum apparently even though I swear I saw it at a different store for like $55 a few months ago
>>21920763luv me a good bottle with a a vaguely threatening label
>>21922603See above response.
>>21922585I've never had it myself but most reviews I see about old forester barrel proof complain about it being hot as fuck. And it's NAS (roughly 4 to 6 years). I don't understand why people pay $80-100 for that.
>>21922821It was too hot when I first opened it but after a couple of months it’s a lot better. I like it but I wouldn’t buy another bottle.
1924 10yo and sbbs both rye and bourbon have been sitting on shelves in my area for months now They even marked down sbbs to 82 bucks and they are still not selling lol
>>21922970for context sbbs in total wine in my area is 90 bucks, facebook boomers were asking 120 not too long ago
>>21922602Deets??
This is the one true whiskey thread ignore the bourbon only thread
finally… they’re in containment
What is the second-best value Scotch behind Costco's $37 Laphroaig 10?Note, I said best, not worst, Diageo shill.
>>21920298
>>21925708me except I’m not a dainty anime girl and I CAN QUIT WHENEVER I WANT I JUST DON’T FEEL LIKE IT
For all the scotchfags, liquorlineup.com has picrel deal that looks okay if you're desperate for springbank I guess. Comes out to $387 before shipping if you use their promo code for 10% off. I've never ordered from them but seems to be reputable.
>>21925986>over $400 for 10 yr local barely>not even well rated>jazz faggotryNO MORE.
>>21925996We get it, you're too poor to buy good whiskey. I was just posting because this store tends to put up more uncommon bottles at decent prices, so figured maybe some anon would be interested. That bundle will probably sell out at some point today.
Is Dalmore any good?
>>21926005>le poorfagplenty of good scotch that isnt over inflated in my selection, including the likes of Springbank.>>21926010about as good as any other carpet cleaner that smells like baby vomit
>>21925708I AM a dainty anime girl but I only have 2-3 drams per week.
For me, it’s Elijah Craig.
I'm on vacation for a week so fuck it let'a go
I have become Driftless Glenpilledsipping on a store pick right now and it's great for a 5 year old.I wanted the rye too because it was even better, but it was sold out.
Is Maker’s 46 worth at $27? Haven’t had it and YouTube keeps saying it’s a $35 bottle
I just can't do it anymore, man. Besides some outliers, most whiskeys in their respective groups taste pretty much the same, just give or take some proof. Rye tastes like rye. Bourbon tastes like bourbon. Scotch tastes like scotch. It's fucking boring. Notes are a heap of shit, it just amounts to "You or the bottle told me this has notes of apricot, so now I taste apricot." There's no real depth beyond the initial "taste" of the product.
>>21926423Time to move on to wine
>>21926472wine is for women and homos
>>21926301That's probably as cheap as you'd ever find it, but>94 proof>wheated>>21926423What are you expecting your whiskey to taste like pumpkin spice or something? Or maybe you're a smoker and have blown out tastebuds. I have dozens of whiskeys and most are noticeably distinct.
Grabbed a couple of Ezra store picks for a good price and negotiated a leftover of Blantons gold edition (mid) included too
>>21926472Wine sucks.>>21926483Never smoked in my life. I don't necessarily need it to taste like pumpkin spice. I can tell the most SUBTLE of differences if I'm actively sipping one whiskey against another, but even then there's not really a finger you can put on it. I'd just like there to be actual, tangible differences to explore. I can't get excited about new whiskeys when ultimately (without direct, side-by-side comparison) it just tastes like every other thing I've tried. Doesn't matter the price tag or label.
>>21926530So buy bottom shelf 1.75s, are you a woman? wtf are you crying about here?
>>21926423I think a lot of it is just training and paying attention. I do A/B test and go between the two glasses really quickly on the nose first. Then when I’m tasting critically I spit out the first sip of both because even a small sip can alter your palate and affect how you perceive the next one. I start by taking a tiny sip, let my tongue acclimate to the ethanol, build saliva, spit it out, and then taste the tiny amount remaining on my tongue. Then I repeat for glass B. After the first two sips I stop evaluating and just enjoy the drink.
>>21926483I skipped the MM and got a big 1.75 of Evan Willam white label for $26. I have a bottle of bourbon and a bottle of rye now. I declare myself a certified connoisseur.
>>21926574Do you own a fedora?
>>21926423you may be in a bad headspace or have legitimate palate fatigue. dont listen to spitters, they are quitters.>>21926574you dont need to spit. just rinse with water and sip while your mouth is still moist.>>21926603what rye? havent had Maker's in over 12 years, but it was way better than EW BiB, regardless the cost.
>>21926482self sabotaging retards filtering themselves out of their own enjoyment is always amusing to observe
>>21926780Old forester. The EW tastes fine with diet Pepsi
>>21926819no point in spending more than $15 on liquor if you're mixing with diet pepsi.
My Bottle My Choice
Every shitty post is just rage bait these days
Tonight after work I will be opening a bottle of new rift balboa and sampling it for the first time. Don’t be too jealous when I post my review.
Bros how are we feeling about Bulleit Mesquite Smoked? It's 93 proof, 6 year aged, with a mashbill of 65% corn, 30% mesquite-smoked malted barley, and 5% malted barley. >>21927692It's new RIFF you retard. I'll be looking forward to your review, I still haven't cracked mine.
>>21926423>Rye tastes like ryeA 50% rye mashbill rye tastes WAY different than a 95% or 100% rye mashbill.>Bourbon tastes like bourbon.For the most part, yeah, although a high-rye bourbon tastes significantly different than a wheated bourbon. But you have the most legit complaint re: bourbon than the other two. It's the most samey, for sure.>Scotch tastes like scotchUhhhhhhhhhhhhh, no.No.>Unpeated, lightly peated or heavily peated?>if peated, what region is the peat from?>bourbon casks? sherry casks? sherry hogsheads? other?>cask-finishing?>age?All of the above has a MASSIVE impact on flavor. The variety of flavors found in Scotch is HUGE.
>>21926423>Scotch tastes like scotchThis outs you as a tastelet. Scotch has characteristic qualities, but is super diverse in flavor, so you putting it all in one category means you can't taste shit and whisky isn't for you. I'm happy Ardbeg doesn't taste like Glenmorangie at all. You shouldn't need to taste 'notes' you should just be tasting that this stuff is completely different in the first place.
>>21927716its Diageo
>>21927716>new riffThat’s your opinion it says new rift on my bottles so take it up with the guy who printed the labels I’ve been drinking some bulleit rye and it’s so mediocre it makes me never want to try any of their other products.
>>21927800irrelevant for straight whiskies unless you want to bitch about pricing. standard bulleit is pretty cheap but their other releases are fuckered>>21927769>A 50% rye mashbill ryeand mulattos aren’t white
>>21927800This.That's a yikes from me, m8.
>>21927769>sherry casks? sherry hogsheads?Not to mention,>are they first-fill?
>the anti-scotch thread started by a total faggot was unsuccessful and died quickly
>>21928182Seems like one of the jannys is a scotch fag and deleted it. We really need a rye general for the only good kind of whiskey in this god forsaken world.
>>21928184We don't need anything but a whisk(e)y general. The whisk(e)y general is slow enough as is.Besides, true gentlemen can find at least one bourbon, Scotch, rye and Irish whiskey they can appreciate.
>>21928184It was not deleted: >>21923788It just died due to lack of interest.
>>21928192>bourbonsure>Scotchof course>ryeyep>Irishlol no. name a single one without e150a. Irish whiskey is, in the best case, scotch made in Ireland for people to beat their chests about and yell IRELAND WOOOO!!!!. Otherwise it’s scotch that has been distilled again to remove more flavor. But even if that “light” style is your preference, and I can acquiesce to that, I cannot find a single fucking readily available Irish whiskey that isn’t caramel colored swill. In 2010 there were FOUR fucking distilleries. I am sure some of the newer, smaller ones are making some decent stuff if I could ever get my hands on it, but even still the number of good scotch distilleries trumps it and I am sick of hearing Irish even being mentioned like it deserves its own seat at the table. Literally just gets mentioned for nationalistic chest pounding
>>21928232Bushmills(or Knappogue Castle) and Tyrconnell are great. I've not had an unadulterated Midleton.>>21928165yes I agree that Diageo products are irrelevant to those with taste.
Who else is using mgp 95/5 rye whiskey beyond bulleit and Penelope. I usually hate Penelope but I bought a bottle of the toasted rye and it’s actually really good. I know sagamore and high west used to blend mgp with their own distillate but I think that’s over now. 13th colony also seems to use it but they are a scam ndp who tried to cover up they are using mgp rye by saying their mash was 96/4 and then playing dumb about it. Where else can I scratch my mgp rye itch.
>>21928379>claims to have taste with diageo comment>shills bushmillstyrconnell is alright, still has e150a and is still mogged by scotchI will say the use of unmalted barley in single pot is ireland’s one redeeming or unique quality. Still, its whiskey industry is plagued with issues (like column stills) and remains a mere oddity or curiosity that gets a participation award when mentioned alongside scotch>>21928618>Who else is using mgp 95/5 rye whiskey beyond bulleit and Penelopealmost everyone who’s not making 51% besides like 3 distilleries that have actual distribution. bulleit and george dickle remain the most economic mgp option outside of getting it straight from the source
>>21928192Replace Irish with Japanese then I can agree.
>>21928618There are several NDPs selling aged MGP rye. River Roots and Hughes Bros are two I know of but I think there's at least a couple others. But you're probably gonna have to order them Protip: if you see something you want on Seelbachs, add to your cart and go through the checkout process and enter your contact info and address to get the shipping estimate and final total, then close the page. If you're a new customer wait a while (I think it was 15-30 min) and they'll email a code for free shipping.
>>21928728Oh and it was a minimum order of $100 for their free shipping code. So poorfags please ignore my post.
>>21928728Edit #2: actually you don't have to do that checkout nonsense, it's a code they give to all new customers. Anyway, it's a good store and you guys who don't order whiskey should try it sometime. Ordering whiskey is a game changer.
>>21928232There’s quite a few natural color Irish whiskies Whiskey prices are starting to outstrip general inflation of other goods I am done buying whiskey for a while until things start to settle downI might hunt for some on sale bottles or just stick to cheaper stuff
>>21928753What are your favorite seelbachs releases that I should look for
>>21928902I just got a 14 yr Hughes Bros rye from them that I'm looking forward to trying after lent. It was $150 so quite pricey but I felt like splurging a bit on a well aged MGP rye to see how it is. I'll post a review when I crack it. So I don't have any feedback about their picks yet but I've read good things. They do tend to be overpriced though so not the best option unless it's something more unique that nobody else has.
>>21928681Diageo hasn't been owned Bushmills for over a decade. most of what is being bottled now is long since under new ownership. I havent had a new bottle since they made a young woman the master blender right before they rebranded a few years ago. could be worse, could be getting gouged by Waterford. my shop finally had to put some on sale. packaging is pretty gay too.
>>21929056>Diageo hasn't been owned Bushmills for over a decadethat’s not what I was implying I meant that bushmills is slop. it’s OK slop though, and so is bulleit at like $25 since the fact that they’re owned by diageo is irrelevant when they can’t piss e150a into straight whiskeys
>>21928900>There’s quite a few natural color Irish whiskiesname emespecially ones that can easily be found outside ireland
>>21929056Bushmills is diageo coded
>>21928681I have a bottle of bulleit rye and it’s not nearly as good as the Penelope stuff. Is it due to the age or that they put it in another barrel to toast it? It’s ok but compared to stuff like new riff that uses the same mash bill as mgp it lacks a lot of flavor. >>21928919>>21928728I’ve never heard of either of those labels but unfortunately shipping liquor is illegal in my state. Have you tried templeton I hear they use mgp as well.
Is EHT bonded rye worth paying for?My store stocked up on it just now for MSRP. Not sure if this tater bait is actually any good besides looking pretty in a tube.
>>21928618>Who else is using mgp 95/5 ryeTumbling DiceDark Arts
>>21928232I don't give a FUCK if it has coloring. I only care about how it tastes.Love me some Redbreast. Simple as.
>>21929888Guy you’re replying to hereWhile I crusade against coloring I think ultimately it’s not actually that detrimental. Everyone likes caramel, and caramel+whiskey isn’t a bad flavor combination. Of course they claim you can’t taste it (and you probably can’t in most cases- some cheaper brands probably do dump enough in that you could) but it’s the principle. And not only that but it’s a red flag in the first place. Like ice cream brands including guar gum and whatnot. Snooty molecular gastronomy restaurants might use guar gum in some high quality dish, but when a cheap ice cream brand is doing it you know it’s because they’re peddling slop. Redbreast is alright, but they can fuck off with the caramel coloring, 80 proof, and pricetag. I know there’s other editions of redbreast beside the flagship but my point stands
>>21930077It’s deceptive in its very nature. They’re adulterating the color so it looks like something it’s not. Scummy marketing shit
>>21930077>and pricetagIt's cheap at Costco. I don't and wouldn't buy it anywhere else.>80 proofI almost NEVER defend this shit, but I think in this very specific case this is beneficial for its unique, silky, almost creamy/oily mouthfeel, which is what I really adore about this whiskey. I think this is probably just the right proof for this particular whiskey's mouthfeel. I've had the cask strength 12 and its mouthfeel is completely different.
>>21930512Paying 70 dollars for 80 proof whiskey is retarded. Irish whiskey isn’t good enough to justify the prices.
>>21930077in the one bottle of Johnny Walker Black I had a few years ago, the acrid burnt caramel dominated the finish as well as the nose. It's easily detectable in cheap bottles and large batch blends. Even the Cragganmore Distillers Edition 2021 I have has the same note even though it's a single malt and had some Port finishing.pic related has really opened up well over the last year. reminds me of the Longrow Red 15 NZ Pinot Noir, but the body is thinner and not nearly as oily or funky. its going to be hard to follow this one with the available Port Charlotte's in my area.
>>21930522member when the cask strength was $70? I member. shits over $100 now and i think they dont even state it being 12 years old anymore.
>>21920298Meh
>>21930522It's like fitty at Costco.I would not pay 70 for it.
>>21928182I mostly drink bourbon because I am an American and it mostly beats out scotch on $ to quality ratio in my market, but one of my biggest red flags in someone’s taste is when they “don’t like scotch” to me it’s like saying you don’t like whiskey, makes no sense.
I have fallen in love.
My friend gifted me a bottle of whiskey since that's my drink of choice but she neglected to acknowledge that I only drink socially so I have zero need for a personal bottleWhat are some good recipes which call for whiskey? All I've used it for thus far is bourbon chicken
>>21920298Hi. Don't know why I'm writing here. First time on /wsg/. I'm considering buying a bottle that I will mostly drink and then store away for special occasions.I think I'm going to pass most of my uni tests (and I passed two really hard ones) so I want to drink to celebrate before the next semester comes around. Whiskey is the only hard alcohol I have ever drank and am willing to drink. What's a good whiskey I can buy between 40-80€? I will be drinking at least half the bottle or enough to actually get drunk and not just buzzed.
>>21933118You sound like an asshat and a shitty friend anon. Just drink and enjoy the fucking whiskey every once in a while.
Continuing my tour of bourbon finished beers this evening finds me with an Allagash Curieux - hard to score this one because while I think regular allagash is terrific, the cask finish isn’t really adding anything extra for me beyond just the higher abv
>>21933215Why are you so upset? I only drink to get buzzed/drunk and I have no desire to do that on my own. My father was a filthy alkie so I watch my alcohol consumption. I can't even use the "just keep it in case i have company" excuse since I'm the only person I know that enjoys brown liquor.
>>21933246My dad was also a fucking alcoholic. To the point it killed him. If you're not a retard, you can drink and enjoy whiskey in moderation. If you only drink to get drunk, then you're way further along the path to your shitty dad than the rest of us who actually sip and enjoy our beverages.
>>21933257Yeah I don't care, no idea why you're so upset at someone not casually enjoying liquor but whatever
>>21933268Kill yourself.
>>21933160What kind of whisky do you typically enjoy? Regardless id ultimately advise you against getting hammered off your celebratory bottle, once you’re a few drinks deep you won’t notice things like quality of the spirit
>>21933268Shatter the bottle to get rid of the liquid then eat the glass
>>21920743Good stuff mang. A few bottles I really enjoyed:JD BP Rye (my favorite shelfer)Bardstown Orgin WheatedWT Kentucky SpiritLarceny BPJefferson's CS KC12Russel's Reserve Private Barrel SelectMM Keepers ReleaseEagle Rare 10Penelope 10yr Private SelectOF 1924Weller 107Stagg Jr....no point listing more allocated shit. Hunt some more goodies when you can ;)
>>21933268lmao you made the alkies mad :D
>>21933610It's the opposite, samefag. People who enjoy whiskey usually like it for its flavor and qualities, not because it gets them drunk or buzzed. Whereas someone who gets fucked up on the weekends "for social reasons" is way more on the path of being an alcoholic.
>>21933628uh uh, keep telling yourself that
All whiskey tastes the same
>>21933118get a turkey baster and use it to boof her with the whiskey she gave you. if you werent oblivious you'd have been bragging instead of seeking advice.>>21933608all I've heard is that they cant legally add it in america and that it's possible they do so by transporting it into canada or mexico and then bring it back. may have also heard that they could possibly add it to the barrel before charring which helps get more use per barrel as the char level is less which means less time/resources per barrel.
>>21933970I think it’s allowed in regular bourbon, but “straight” bourbon has to have no added coloring. And basically every single mid shelf bourbon on the market is classified as straight
>>21920298I dunno bub, I can drink a lot
>>21933608I think only the cheapest trash has added coloring, any reputable brand should not have it
>>21933608Label matters anon, most bourbons are straight bourbons, there can be no additives whatsoever. Opposed to slop like OP.
>Live in the Chicago area>Local Liquor store chain hosting a charity raffle next week >30 prizes including the grand prize which is TWO bottles of Pappy 23>Tickets are $100 each and there is a limit of 1,000 tickets that can be bought>You can buy Raffle tickets through their website and it even tells you how many tickets each person buys>One person has bought $10,000 worth of ticketsJesus christ. At least it's for charity but why would you spend that much on a whiskey raffle when even the resale value of the grand prize doesn't reach what you paid for?
>>21933280>what kindDunno. I've only ever had two bottles of Jackie D's. And if we're talking spirits in general, I think I drank off a bottle of what I think was a vodka mix or something? But I prefer whiskey I think. It tasted pretty ok, compared to vodka which always puts me off. Maybe I could try rum (which is also useful for cooking) but a good quality, able-to-be-enjoyed-with-a-nice-meal whiskey is what I'm looking for.>don't get drunk off the same bottleFine. I'll buy some Jack and drink that and keep the actual celebratory bottle for a different time. Maybe later I'll have a steak with the latter bottle. Or like a really elaborate, really delicious chicken dinner. Something like that is what I had in mind.Btw: I'm in Germany. Just a reminder that I can't get my hands on, say, the local Danville, Kentucky brewery's whiskey.
>>21934351That's actually pretty cool. What are the other prizes aside from the two Pappy's?Also, yes, $10,000 on tickets is insane and I wouldn't be shocked if it's another liquor store owner trying to get allocated bottles they were unable to get.
>>21934351So he paid $10,000 for a 1 in 10 chance of getting two bottles of pappy 23?
>>21934138Their example in the video is that makers mark added e150a to their standard bottling when they dropped the proof back in the day. We really need someone in the industry to verify that there is no e150a in bourbon there might be some loophole that e150a technically isn’t an additive or something like that.
>>21934400There are other bottles of Pappy but also other allocated stuff like 13th Colonies Birthday edition, Blanton's Gold, Weller 107, and various other things.>>21934402I mean, there are other good bottles but basically yeah. Unless this person is REALLY into charity and this is just an excuse to to give money for a chance at bourbon that he was gonna donate anyways.
>>21934405If it's considered a tax-deductible charitable donation, then I could see it.
why are there so many unironic cuckolds in the whiskey game? t. winefag
>>21934362If youre relatively new to whisky and are going to be drinking it with a meal I’ll avoid suggesting anything too peated and suggest either Bunnahabhain 12, Deanston 12, or Tobermory 12 for a really solid entry level scotch and Wild Turkey Rare Breed for bourbon. Personally I drink either right before or after a meal not during but do whatever works
>>21934405>charityI think you mean scams
>>21934453Is every charity a scam?Or just this particular one?
>>21934453It's for Lurie Children's Hospital.
>>21934351Which chain? I haven't heard shit about a charity auction in that area for the two liquor chains I frequent in the area. Binny's did their distibution a couple of months ago.
Any anons entering the lottery for pic rel? It's $350 including fees and shipping
Is there anything classier than wt101 in a plastic bottle?
>>21934795plastic is definitionally not classy retard
>have a family who is part owner of the children’s hospital>drop $10k on the charity raffle>walk away with the 23yo Pappy>public thinks you're a saint>go to dinner after>said family slides part of the money back under the table>basically get the Pappy at MSRP
>>21934821Did that really take you 3 and a half hours to make up a fantasy where this charity is really a scam?
>>21934823Where did you get 3.5 hours? It took me 3 minutes to cook that up
>>21934831
>>21934676NTA, but maybe Garfield Bev? They had a raffle like 3 weeks ago that I won a Pappy 10 at
>>21934835You're mistaking me for the other anon
Tullamore dew tastes like flat sprite
>>21934841My garfields never raffels their shit as far as I know and instead sells pours at the bar. At least I get my yearly pour of King of Kentucky for 50.
>>21934871The one I did the raffle at was Barrington. Funny enough they don't have a bar or pour station in theirs.
>>21933970theres a lot of stuff that uses old barrels that are not hindered by the same regulations.
I said I wouldn't pick up any more bourbons but when I saw that my grocery store had EH Taylor barrel proof I just had to get twoIs this shit any good?
>>21935137Idk I bought one and haven’t opened it yet. It definitely depends on the batch, I hear the 2025 batch from last year is good How much were they charging? Close to $100 ea?
Let’s talk about Nashville barrel for a minute, is the rye a 95-5 mgp rye at 7 years 108 proof worth it for $100?
>>21935149ye it was like 95 bucks each including tax, tips and slavery reparationsMine are batch 14 124.7 proof
>>21935164No but I’d probably buy it anyway
Got a Jameson black barrel for patricks day.
>>21935137the one i got is pretty fucking good. heard the batch previous to it wasn't all that. i think it used to be a unicorn-tier bottle but what everyone is saying about a bourbon crash seems to be real cause that shit is suddenly everywhere
>>21926423i disagree but sometimes you gotta get over the stupid hoity toity "OMG OMG I TASTE PLUM" bullshit cause half of it is just hype from the moment and also the fact that you're excited to get a buzz. but there is some pretty serious variance in flavor even across similar bottles. tasting notes are fun especially if you start to dig deeper into the many factors involved in why we get the tasting notes that we do, it's a hell of a hobby in general, but getting sucked into hype will always be disappointing. and unironically what >>21926472 said or also the fact that you can get just as much tasting enjoyment from brewing coffee or tasting fine olive oils or cigars or a million other things
american whiskey is completely undersung in its variety. when you start learning the ropes of everything, and you start learning about scotch, it appears to have the most variety. american whiskey has just as much if not more going on, it's just nobody gives a fuck about that stuff unless they're actually connoisseurs, so you hear it but it's in one ear and out the other
>>21936874I was going to get one but then they went full retard with the blacks in their advertising.
>>21937040it's also usually priced too high with no age statements and not much going on cask wise. McCarthy's is nice even though its low proof and young, but the price is decent and flavor is unique.
>>21937097Name distilleries with world wide distribution that aren’t owned by Jews Pretty sure there’s not many of them
>>21936874It was bushmills standard tonight for me
>>21937114>name something that doesnt existalso Jameson is not a distillery
How is sour mash? I've never tried it or had an opportunity to. Wanted to gauge how people like it before spending $50 or more.
how do i get over my distaste for whiskey? is it just a question of drink it until you like it or is there anything i can do to improve my experience (already keeping it at 60°F/15°C), because right now it just kinda feels like licking a trees asscrack at least to me. Could it be me buying dogshit? I only got 2 bottles in my posession right now>Johnny Walker Green Label>Bushmills Black Bushblese resbond
I like whiskey sour
>>21937410>>21937382>You should start with learning to enjoy beer and then wine at the very least before you go full whiskeyNTA, but I hate beer and always have. Wine is okay, but I love whiskeys. I would 100% tell someone to go for nice whiskey over beer or wine any day of the week. Yes, the product matters. If your only experience is Old No. 7 and Coke, you probably have a bad association with whiskey. I think most people start out that way, so when they try new things, they're just honing in on the ethanol or burn. What changed it for me (and don't laugh) is when I started really looking into the distillation and aging process. When I really started appreciating whiskey making as an art form, with various places around the world giving it their own spin and impact. Hearing them talk about the notes and tastes. Then I bought some decent bottles and starting actually tasting them and appreciating them, not just thinking about the alcohol content. It didn't take long for me to basically adapt to only tasting the caramels, vanillas, and fruits. Unless something is overproof/hazmat, I don't even register the alcohol anymore (not in a bad way, I still drink responsibly.)All that said, there's always going to be some oakiness or general woodiness imparted by the aging process. Most people like those flavors, along with tobacco and leather. If that's truly something you dislike (licking a tree's asscrack, as you put it) it might simply not be for you, as beer isn't for me.
FYI for any scotchfags, this looks like a good deal
>>21921251whiskeyfags in a nutshell, I was half expecting to read "toothsinkability" in there too
>>21937464Ah damn it was in stock when I posted. But yes I order whiskey all the time, and have a couple times from remedy without any issues. I scrape their api to get alerts when good deals pop up.
>>21937382have you tried more entry level stuff like jack daniels old no. 7? it's smooth sippin. beginners are best to start with the cheap stuff because it's engineered to be drinkable. don't ask a bunch of verbally masturbating keyboard faggots what to drink because they'll all give you some contrived recommendations based on their stupid ideas of what should be. they're tainted by reviewer and bottle hunter culture. think like a common man instead. where would the common man start with whiskey? the bottom shelf, for the sole purpose of intoxication
>>21937510If you're serious about learning then I'd lookup some tutorials in Python. But desu I just vibecoded my scraper with claude
>>21937009You get any grape note off yours?Im getting artificial grapes from mine like jolly ranchers or Welches. >>21937040Bourbon yeah I can see that but not for rye. There's significant differences between say Kentucky rye compared to Empire rye.
>>21937547yeah that sounds about right. funny you say jolly rancher. e.h. Taylor single barrel stuff often gives me jolly rancher apple vibes>Bourbon yeah I can see that but not for rye. There's significant differences between say Kentucky rye compared to Empire rye.oh, that's what I'm saying though. there is insane variety across American whiskeys. anyone saying otherwise just has a crap palate. it would be like if I said all scotch tastes like cereal, it would kinda be my problem for not being able to discern anything past the base profile. so I think it's kind of a reaction that people have when all they know about American whiskey is online culture of hunting for buffalo trace's shit while they pass up the hundreds of delicious bottles on the shelf every time they go in a store looking for "the good stuff", then they're learning about scotch and how varied it seems, like objectively speaking I think you can find way more variety in factors affecting flavor across American whiskey if you actually open your eyes (I say 'you' here of course I don't mean you personally anon)
>I'm tasting a note of goyslop
sheeeeeeit
>>21937822The whiskey crash is real. For the first time in years I've seen EH Taylor and BT on shelves in plenty for weeks
>>21937822From what I understand, the CEO is claiming the bank is doing fuckey accounting to undervalue the brand so that they're not worth, or barely worth as much as they owe in debt (about $100M). The company is currently under control of a court appointed receiver who is selling off the company assets to pay off that debt. The rub is the court appointed receiver is trying to sell their Martha's Vineyard property and a cognac estate in france. The CEO views these two properties as 100% vital to the brand's success and is filing for bankruptcy to stop the sale of those two assets by the current court appointed receiver. One of her main complaints about the bank audit is she claims ~20,000 barrels weren't accounted for because they're held in "forward contracts" which basically means a 3rd party distiller is holding the whiskey while it ages but you own it on paper. Which accounts for some ~$21M that the bank claims she mismanaged/embezzled and was missing from the inventory when they did their audit.So yeah, it's not as simple as the whiskey industry being in a slump and this company taking a hit.The CEO's only real hope is that she can prove misconduct by the bank and that will get the court to put a stop on the property sales while they do a deeper audit from a 3rd party bank.
fRYEday can't come soon enough
For me, it's Wild Chicken 12.
How's Bulleit Rye? Just nabbed a bottle for cheap, but I don't drink until Friday night. As a treat.
>>21937916How do you know about this?Second question, how do you find the time to care about this? I’m serious
>>21938400should've gotten rittenhousewe hate diageo here
>>21938449NTA but that's all public info. And as for why anyone cares, it's funny to see how badly mismanaged the woke dei whiskey company is/was.
>>21938400It’s ok. My least favorite example of mgp rye I’ve tried.
>>21938449That was just what I found out in the ~20-30 minutes or so after I saw the post about the uncle nearest bankruptcy. It's all publicly available information; you just gotta cut through the bullshit and piece it all together to figure out the bigger picture.
Why do people say you should add water to an old fashioned when you muddle the sugar? Just use an extra .5oz of whiskey and muddle with that. Any water the drink needs will get added when you stir with ice. Retarded.
>>21939079It's just a way to make simple syrup on the spot.
>>21939114Simple syrup is just sugar and water. The point is the sugar, not the water.
except to make simple syrup the sugar needs to fully dissolve and that requires heating water
>>21939079When I make steakhouse old fashioned I like to muddle a slice of orange with the sugar. No water needed.
>>21939079Sugar dissolves faster and more thoroughly in water, rather than alcohol.>>21939134The point is to dissolve it.>>21939174No it doesn't. Heat helps dissolve sugar faster. You can absolutely dissolve sugar in room temperature water through "muddling" it.
>>21939182Also to add to this I like to do my angostura bitters when I'm muddling. You shouldn't use any fucking water in your cocktails aside from ice. That is completely nuts btw.
>>21939202it does not become syrup with heat
>>21939579Cool, that's what I said.
>>21939595withOUT, fucking phone.
>>21939579>>21939597Sure it does. You may need heat to make thicker, richer syrups. But a 1:1 simple syrup can be made without heat.
>>21939202>Sugar dissolves faster and more thoroughly in water, rather than alcohol.Works fine for me just using whiskey.>>21939182I tried doing this once, just muddling the fruit part of the orange slice (not the peel). It was really good and I need to make one again.
>>21939303>Also to add to this I like to do my angostura bitters when I'm muddling.Same. My method is:Add 1tsp of turbinado sugar, 3 dashes Angostura bitters, and .5oz of whiskey to the glass and muddle it.Add ice and 2oz more whiskey. Stir 60 times.Express an orange peel and throw it in.
>>21939660>Stir 60 times.A bit more on this. This causes a good amount of dilution right off the bat, but in my experience if you don't stir a lot then the drink doesn't get cold enough and the flavors don't blend properly, so you end up having to wait on it afterwards. I suppose that's fine if you want to sip on it for a good while and see how it develops or whatever, but I'd rather it just be where it needs to be, and I don't take a very long time to drink them anyway. Different strokes I suppose.
>>21939696Also I think the extra .5oz of whiskey at the start helps counter some of the extra dilution and keep the drink strong, so it ends up working out in the end. I'll shut up now.
> /wsg/ >no webm around
>>21922022it's mediocre and got bought out by Brown-Foreman because it filled a market nicheif it wasn't owned/distilled by a black woman, it would have never been a blip on the market
>>21937452>sold outfuckit's like 500 bucks on the shelf now
Ok rye chads I think today is going to be the day I crack open the new rift balboa and try it out. I have the single barrel too so I’m going to do some comparisons.
Anyone tried the Penelope 18 year light whiskey? A local store got them in stock and I sniped one to pickup this weekend. I hope I'm not wasting money on a hype bottle but it got great reviews.>>21940674Yeah I think it was only a single bottle or a pricing mistake because it was gone in 15 minutes. I only caught it because I'm scraping their site every 5 minutes.
killed the Old Overholt 114 last night. was only about 5 nips from the bottle. gotta get another but I wish they sold it in a handle.
Why would I buy a bottle of Johnnie Walker Black when I can get a bottom of the range single malt for the same price?
>>21941390because you have no rizz. big brands make bitches wet. least thats what all the slant eye and pajeet fiends say. and who get more pussy than those guys, right?
this goddamn macallan got a nigga saying mm mm mm
>>21941390Something being a blend doesn't make it bad, and something being a single malt doesn't mean you'll like it. You should just buy whatever you enjoy drinking.
>>21941551Macallan lacks flavor
>>21940717Anon did you try the new rift balboa? I've been anxiously awaiting your review
>>21940717Speaking of New Riff, I bought the basic one recently and like it a lot. I just had a glass of my Eagle Rare for the first time in ages and I think I actually like it less than the New Riff.
>Wild, wild turkeys couldn't drag me away...
>>21942090They really should've kept the full turkey head label, these new ones are depressing.
>>21942094The turkey was too wild to contain on a label. These things happen.
>>21941971lol
I am tired of alcohol in general
>>21942004Sorry for the bait last night but I was too tired to crack it. Tonight will be the night I open the balboa. I'll let you know.>>21942081The rye or the bourbon? I haven't tried their bourbons yet but their ryes have risen to the top of my list. I think their single barrel rye might be my favorite right now overtaking willet green tops.
God I love just sniffing my whiskies. I don't even need to drink in the morning, just pop some corks, and inhale DEEEEEP and let the neurons activate
>>21942143Bourbon, the bottled in bond one that's like $37.
This weekend's pickups so far:>Penelope 18yr ALW >Woodford 110 proof pick>Rare Breed - found a store selling it for $49 (usually $55+ in my area)Yeah it's been a good day >>21942143I haven't been terribly impressed with new riff bourbons except for a single barrel pick that was amazing. In my experience their regular shelfer bourbons are all good but not outstanding.
>>21942167I used to work with an old timer who would carry a flask of whisky around but it’d still be 90% full at the end of the day he’d just take it out to sniff or put a drop on his tongue lol
>>21942337I have also heard their bourbon isn't as good as their rye. I don't particularly care as the bourbon market is oversaturated anyway and there aren't many good rye distilleries.
>>21942348He sounds basedWhat happened to him?
This is old swill, but it's my swill.
>>21943071Picture shows much more amber than it is IRL. It's weird; hot on the tongue, not on the nose. Light in texture and viscosity. I'm having a hard time parsing notes because the thought of acetone keeps coming up. I'm glad this was just shitty old whisky I got from a family member for free. I've never had Seagram's before, but you won't catch me buying it now. Could get so much more out of a budget bourbon.
>>21943072it's just an old bottling of Canadian swill sold for mixing. one of my family members used to get me a couple mini bottles of liquor for the holidays and the recent Seagrams VO Whiskey was ok. like imagining a more bland wheated bourbon at minimum proof, but I used to drink Rich & Rare mixed with pepsi.
>>21943078Yeah, I think it could be fine for a...whisky and coke or similar. Any other simple ideas? I'm used to drinking all my whiskies neat, so it's weird to me. Even cheap Canadian blends I've bought before have been alright, but if I wasn't buzzed right now, I wouldn't want to bother drinking it neat. At least it's got me comfy enough to eat ice cream and soak. Here is a bad picture of my post-whisky ice cream I am savoring now.
>>21943092is that mint chocolate chip on regular chocolate? when I drank the mini I had it neat, but I wouldnt go through more trouble than it's worth i.e. mixing with soda(squirt, 7Up, etc), ginger ale or iced tea. could be ok in something that mixes different spirits as well, like a white/light rum.
it's a blend of canada's finest fukken whiskies all aged a minimum of 6 years. show some respect
>>21921251You forgot >table whiskey
>>21934821Ah yes, embezzlement of donations. The IRS will be interested in hearing from you.
>>21943071Does this taste like the current stuff? They say the Canadian Club of today tastes like the stuff from 50 years ago.
>>21943733Mint chocolate, and remainder of some mixed fudge/something-or-other chocolate. The whisky didn't impress when sipped neat, but I may give it a go in a mixed drink later today to see if it sucks less.>>21944312I don't know because I haven't had modern Seagram's, but it isn't very good. As the other anon suggested, it would probably be better for a mixed drink. I think I have some diet coke in the house, so I may try it with that. Just late and not in the mood for it now.
I am going to go to just buying one bottle at a time
>>21944680>cucking yourself out of variety because you don't want to hoard dozens or even hundreds of bottles which all taste nearly the sameYeah you won't catch me doing that shit. But for real I might have a shopping addiction for buying whiskey.
>>21942167Based and same
>High end Ardbeg tasting for only $10Sounds like a good deal. Depending on how much they give.
>>21945142I'd be more worried about the palate cleansing and the order they present the samples.
I hate to be this guy but can someone recommend me a rum you can sip neat. I’m going to be stuck all weekend with the in-laws and the only guy there doesn’t like whiskey neat. He is a rum drinker what is a good compromise rum that we can both drink so I don’t blow my brains out and the women don’t nag me for drinking alone like an alcoholic.
>>21945773i like Flor de Caña, I usually buy the younger and cheaper bottles but I presume the ones that have been aged for longer would have a better flavor and provide a more whiskey-like experience for drinking neat.
>>21945800Ok thanks I’ll look around for it. There doesn’t seem to be a huge selection of rum in my area I went to my local spot for whiskey they had limited supply. The nicer stuff appeared to be applegate 12 as well some four square 2009. I almost bought the 2009 because it was 60% or so but it was 70 dollars so I didn’t.
>>21945773Appleton 12 YearMount Gay XOEl Dorado 12The Mount Gay XO is a good bottle. Appleton, too.
>>21945773Plantation 5 Grand Reserve is good for mixing or sipping and should be $20-$30
This guy knows about rum will showing up with something like Appleton 12 be like bringing bulleit bourbon and expecting him to be impressed.
>>21945940No. Appleton 12 isn't crazy by any means, but it's one of the more available aged rums. No rum drinker I know would scoff at a bottle. I don't really have a good whiskey comparison, but it's not like Bulleit. Finding good rum in the states is hard as fuck. If you can find some higher end foursquare or something, do that.
>>21945807that's a relatively decent price on a Foursquare Vintage bottling, but it's been sitting around it must be hype worthy. biggest negative they usually have a is a high % of column still distillate. Doorly's is Foursquare juice at a better price.
>>21945940only time I had Appleton it was the Signature Blend and it tasted like apple juice in a rusty tin can. Smith & Cross is the go to for Jamaican flavor.
>>21945972>Signature BlendA mixer. Not something meant to be sipped. Smith and Cross is a great entry point to higher ester Jamaican Rum, but not something I'd take to sip with some guy unless he already knows he's a big Jamaican guy and enjoys higher proof for sipping.
Having the so-so old 6y blended Seagram's I posted about the other day with some diet Coke, ice, and lemon. Not bad (a lot better than straight with this swill), though I only really used half a lemon. I think it could have benefitted from the whole thing. Maybe next time.Will say, it feels weird to make a mixed drink like this after so long of only drinking straight spirits or wines with pairings. I usually just like to have my spirits neat if they're decent. I remember one of my first (legal) drinks was on the night of my 21st birthday with a simple rum and coke my brother bought me in a Buffalo Wild Wings. The flavor of mine here is a little less sweet and stronger, and I don't have fried sides or whatever, but it reminds me of that time. It's a complicated feeling for such a simple drink. How peculiar.
>>21945800Didn't these guys get sued for false age statements kn their labels?
>>21946235rum doesn't have strict age statement regulations. the stated age can be the oldest spirit used even if it's just a single drop into a vat of unaged spirits.>>21946188sounds like a good memory. I remember when liquor would make me remember specific moments in life...
I’m tired of alcohol and I am just going to drink my collection down to nothing over the next few years The goal is one bottle of good stuff for special occasions and one bottle of a daily drinker that’s half decent at a good price It’s going to feel good to simplify and take it easy
>>21946618>The goal is one bottle of good stuff for special occasions and one bottle of a daily drinker that’s half decent at a good priceI did this. I don't care about my collection anymore and it just sits in an unused room gathering dust. I'm going to start gradually pouring it out. It'll be a lesson not to waste money like that again.
>>21946641I can help you drink some of it
>>21946618>>21946641the fuckthis isn't the AA thread, fags
>>21946693Who is saying anything like AA when we're talking about having a "daily drinker"? It's about spending too much money on booze and not caring about LARPing as a "connoisseur" anymore.
>>21946700This, my palate is pretty much complete new there isn’t some shiny new whiskey that can wow me anymore In fact it has taught me that most whiskey is in the same family rather than a seriously varied style
>>21946707I used to have something like FOMO where I thought if I didn't try as many things as I could then I'd miss something really special. Turns out none of it is that special and the differences within a certain style tend to be minute and not interesting to me.
I find fewer bottles that I’m interested in buying and have my favorites that I keep on hand. At this point I’m just looking for rare bottles that I haven’t tried before. I usually keep a handle of wt101 as my normal sip and then around 9-10 bottles or other stuff that I enjoy. I used to have a lot more in my collection but it gets annoying have so many bottles of stuff I don’t really like to drink lying around so I’ve been offering those to guests and have gotten rid of most of them. I think around 10 bottles is my sweet spot.
>>21945940I don't expect people to share mount gay single estate but I'm bringing at least something like foursquare ecs or eldorado 18 if I'm doing rum.
sipping the jim beam devil's cut
>>21947336Solid choice desu I have been enjoying the knob 9 lately Also bakers 7 is a decent step up from knob that I pour on special occasions
>>21947343hell yeabaker's can be fantastic. i have a knob creek single barrel i'm looking forward to getting to and i'm probably going to go shopping for the new booker's release. almost went tonight but decided to stay home and have this
Just got a willet 4 year bourbon. Didn't know they dropped in Illinois yet
>>21921381grandpa would play a game with my cousin and I using the newspaper grocery store advertisements where we would flip the pages, pretend grab what we wanted, and pretend "eat" the food. After each mouthful we would pretend to have bloated bellies then go onto the next until page of advertisements unti we were full or out of pages. Fun weekends.My issue with "solid for the price" is that it is less efficient and undecided language. You are choosing to be a word adding faggot while uncommitted to your stance implying that something is shit but because it is cheap it is worth consuming the shit. As follows:>yeah the drink is solid>for the price
>>21947614>something is shit but because it is cheap it is worth consuming the shitNot him but this is sometimes the case when a person is unable or unwilling to pay more. It's saying that something is acceptable quality within its price bracket. If you want something better you have to pay more. Whether you want to do that is up to you.
>>21947614It’s very easy to understand. A whiskey can be good at 40 dollars but if they shop is trying to charge you 60 for it there are other whiskeys in that price range I would prefer to buy.
>>21947348I just got one too, the 128 proof batch, but I haven't opened it yet
>>21948266I just saw a purple top for 65 guy said they just got them in. Didn’t buy it though as I’m kind of sick of bourbon right now all in drinking is rye.
>>21948266I just randomly went to a Garfield Bev and they had like 10 of them. For $70 after taxes I think it's a good deal. i never had a Willett Purple top before so I'm excited to try it.
>>21948270>Garfield Bev
>>21948306Yes.https://garfieldsbeverage.com/
>>21948314https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ2q9NmYf6g
After finishing a few bottles, I feel pretty comfortable saying whiskey isn't quite my drink. How similar is rum compared to whiskey?
>>21948270I don't think I'd even pay $20 for my 4 year willett. The couple pours I've had were just pure cinnamon and not much else. I need to give it another try now that its been open for months, but it will probably be a drain pour. But I hope you got a good batch.
>>21949039Bourbon or rye?
>>21949039Just mix it with some orange juice dude drainpour is never the answer
>>21949046Bourbon. The 4 year rye is great especially if you love dill
>>21949084so basically the as most of the available bottles of rye then?
>>21949053If you want to pour something down the drain you can. You bought it so you can do whatever you want with it. You don't have any obligation to drink it.
>>21948892>How similar is rum compared to whiskey?Not at all similar. That's what makes rum better. :)
>>21949138>more sugar = more better
>>21949142I drink dry rums, friend.
>>21949113Disagree. Most ryes do not have a strong dill flavor. Willet 4 year is good but it is a dill bomb.
>>21948892Similar in the sense that both are often swill aged in wood. Since whiskey is distilled beer it has a prominent grain flavor whereas rum has nothing to mask the yeast funk from distilled finnish kilju. Though what’s an interesting twist is switching from sugarcane wine (agricoles) to molasses and different grades thereof (i.e. blackstrap) altering the prison hooch profiles. A lot of rums are then backsweetened, but as THE sugarcane distillate I think it can be appropriate though I prefer dry. Plus white rums are also way more common than whitedog whiskey so that’s fun too ig. Also the prices on rums aren’t blown to shit. Overall rum is pretty based but its distribution is also fucked compared to the behemoth whiskey industry so good luck finding quality stuff outside of a few staples like appleton. Also e150a usage is pretty rampant even in the midshelf if you’re a sperg about that (but again, I guess if you’re ever going to use caramel the sugar liquor would be the most appropriate place to use it). Check out Smith & Cross and whatever agricoles or cachacas you can find for starters
>>21920298knob creek, reporting in
>>21949053Sometimes its the answer.
For me, it's Rafraigu 12.
>>21945773Other anons have given good suggestions, I'd like to add that I recommend brugal 1888; Other than the flor de Caña >>21945800 recommended, the other rums recommended so far are all blends of column still and pot still rums while brugal is purely column still and is more specifically a sipping rum where the others can be mixed or sipped (unless you're doing serious tiki shit and mixing it with other rums.)Also, Avoid Zacapa 23. It's also a column still rum, but it's overpriced and kinda shitty, but for whatever reason I see a ton of people buy it and bars stock it.If you're new to rum and looking for a sipper avoid anything pure pot still like Smith & Cross. While I think those are some of my favorite rums, they really need to be mixed and even then they're liable to funk you to death if you aren't prepared.
>>21949650column stills are soulless and if you’re filtered by pot stills you deserve to be
>>21949872don't get me wrong, I love pot still rums, I just think that diving head first into that sort of thing as someone new to rum is gonna be kinda confusing and unpleasant if you don't have a larger context to understand them in. It'd be like recommending a peaty islay to someone who's new to whiskey. On a related note, as someone who's honestly more knowledgeable about rum than other spirits, why don't fans of other liquors (ie whiskey) make a bigger deal about what kinda still they're using? From my experience that sort of thing make a way bigger deal in terms of the finished product than nearly anything else besides mash. My assumption is that outside of rum (and vodka obviously) everyone just mostly uses pot stills as the default, but I don't really know for sure. Plus I know that using column stills to pump up proof for cheap seems like the kinda thing that would make a lot of economic sense for distilleries to do if they aren't emphasizing that sort of thing.
>>21950039>make a bigger deal about what kinda still they're usingbecause it’s basically established. It legally has to be pot stilled for single malt scotch, whereas irish swill is assumed to be column unless otherwise stated. American whiskies are also column distilled to remove the dogshit corn mash flavor and focus on the barrel profiles instead. Even willet’s “pot stilled” bourbon is blended with column distillate. Balcones fwiw does true pot still stuff but they’re also deranged in other ways.Basically every respectable spirit is pot stilled whether it’s mezcal or brandy (excepting armagnac)
>>21950039>confusing and unpleasantto expand upon “if you’re filtered you deserve to be,” I personally find the idea of gradually coaxing people into not being babies offputting. If you’re filtered then fine fuck off. The idea of training yourself to taste a new flavor is insane. Like imagine someone having to eat apples and bananas until they’re finally READY to try a pineapple without being scared and confused by a New Flavor™Except even still at some point you have to ultimately make that leap and no amount of bananas could have prepared you. I liked peated scotch before I even knew what peat was I just bought some bottle and was like “what the fuck” but I liked it and learned more. I’m not trying to boast or something but from my perspective if someone tries a rum and thinks it’s too funky or not SMOOTH then ok they don’t like the rum. I understand the concept of an acquired taste but like come the fuck on it’s not exactly surstromming
My tour of bourbon finished beer continues tonight with what may be my favorite thus far in barrel aged Old Rasputin stout … there’s a freshly baked cake note that’s really working for me
Man I thought this was bullshit when I first heard of it but neck pours really are always inferior to the second pour (given some days pass between the two).
>>21950730I find it’s best to open a bottle drink down to the shoulders of the bottle then let it sit for a month before returning to it.
I never have any issues with neck pours because I always take ~20 minutes to nose a whiskey and bring my senses up to speed. The whole sniffing the glass thing isn’t to look like a snob, it really is a crucial step to appreciating a spirit
>>21950644Well that actually explains a lot for me because when I first came into the thread I was thinking of asking why I as a rum guy massively prefer balcone's stuff to every other bourbon I've tried so far lmao. I didn't know that irish whisky was column still, but that's kind of a happy accident because I've made the analogy before that aged column still rums are sort of like the irish whiskys of the rum world; very barrel oriented, ""smooth,"" and un-agressive in way that make them commonly recommended to beginner sippers but usually not useful for mixing unless you're doing something specific.>>21950672That's fair I guess. Although, I do think that if I wanted to give someone with no prior experience something like a smith and cross I would probably make it into a highball or something. People shit on the original "more or less just rum and room temp water" recipe for grog, but with a good strong rum it's actually really tasty. I mean, it's basically a rum Mizuwari.
>>21951041>balconesyeah I mean I think what makes balcones so weird isn’t the pot still, nor the oft cited high storage temperatures, but rather their open air fermentation in coolships>column still rums>very barrel oriented, ""smooth,"" and un-agressive in way that make them commonly recommended to beginnerin other words SOULLESS. to be fair the platonic “rum” people think of is just that and I understand its value as a point of reference it’s just, meh. If that’s all I’d ever had I wouldn’t care about rumTo back off from my pot still fanaticism I brought up armagnac last time. It’s one of the more unique cases where it’s column distilled to a lower proof than is achieved with the double distillation of cognac in pot stills. Still, I think if they just distilled cognac once it’d a lot more interesting like some single distilled piscos I’ve tried. Ditto for rums (smith & cross is 2x) but in that case I could imagine it being too funky. Still I’d be up for it>smith and cross commentI think more than anything smith and cross is so aggressive because of its proof and wood profile. I imagine that would be more gnarly to a newcomer than the fruit. Just tried some with water and yeah I can see how it ameliorates those. Also thred’s ded so QUICK any rum recs in the $50-$100 bracket that should be easy enough to obtain? I hear four square get name-dropped a bunch. I regret not writing down some anon’s list a couple years back (can’t search it in archive either cause I don’t remember the names) but I’m pretty sure I couldn’t find a single one of his esoteric recs anyway outside of a major city like NYC or something that has access to boutiques
FUCK Diageo almost everything they touch turns to fucking shit and is overpriced but... Balcones is fucking legit.
>>21951193>I think more than anything smith and cross is so aggressive because of its proof and wood profileS&C isn't even aggressive. If the only other Jamaican you're comparing it to is Appleton, sure. But the hogo is quite tame in it.
>>21950644I'm pretty sure Woodford uses triple pot stills setup but I think they started to blend with column distillate due to volume issue. Pots just can't match the output of continuous column.
>>21920298>stop buying more whiskey than you can drink edition >implyingJust got a bottle of Glenglassaugh Sandend. Fuckin hell this is good.
>>21947614>My issue with "solid for the price" is that it is less efficient and undecided language. You are choosing to be a word adding faggot while uncommitted to your stance implying that something is shit but because it is cheap it is worth consuming the shit. As follows:Okay, and what does that have to do with your faggot grandpa picture shopping in magazines with you as he made you and your cousin engage in eating fetish play?
>>21951711I do that with pictures posted in /wg/ threads.I find the pictures of whiskey I want to drink, then lick the screen while imagining notes of cinnamon, HFCS, and various natural flavors from my favorite slop brands.
>>21951716>HFCSThere is no HFCS in whiskey, nigger-tard.
>>21951725there's no cinnamon or lifesavers either dipshit
>>21951727>lifesaversNobody said anything about lifesavers, niggertard.>cinnamonCinnamon as a taste profile is a lot more believable than manufactured HFCS, which you're dumb nigger-tard ass probably thinks causes cancer, and being a dumb niggertard who likes to niggertard things up, added it to try and be less of a dumb niggertard and come off as "quirky" and "chungus", but no, you're just a dumb niggertard.Be less of a dumb niggertard and blow your baby sister's head off with a shotgun, beat your mother and father to death with the butt of the gun, then put the barrel in your mouth and stop bothering me.
>>21951732>wall of faggot textjust because you can type nigger doesn't mean we don't all see you're an ESL when you don't understand what>imagining notes ofmeans
>>21951739Kill yourself. Nobody loves you, nobody even cares about your posts. I only responded to you to tell you how much of a dumb niggertard you are. Kill yourself, you won't be missed.
>>21951740go back to mexico or india or whichever turd world country pisses you off the most
>>21951656blessed. I love their 12 so I’ll try the sanded because based off the former I have faith. I hear conflicting reports of BROWN-Foreman shutting down production “indefinitely” and also that they’re simply alternating personnel with benriach and have plans to start distilling again later this year>>21951618blessed woodford. apparently brown-foreman has been adding their column sloppa since the brand launched thoughever. finally tried the double oaked and it was pretty kino
>>21951334read the very quoted text you’re replying to I’m not saying the hogo is aggressive nor am I saying the drink is necessarily intrinsically harsh it’s basically just the proof (and ig on some level the wood tannins). that said I had wray and nephew overproof and couldn’t fucking believe it was 63% seemed more like 50 or something
