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Is it just me, or does boiling a stew outright eliminate most of the spices (paprika, cumin, garlic) after a while?
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They're volatile aromatics, high heat destroys the compounds that give them flavor. That's why you shouldn't season a steak with pepper before searing all you're doing is creating a crust of charcoal.
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>>21940505
Pretty girl sex sex sex
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>>21940507
Dumbass
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>>21940505
>boiling
you gotta keep it low and slow brother
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>>21940505
if it reaches a boil it's no longer a stew as "stewing" is the process.
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>>21940505
that's why some recipes will tell you to cook the things that take longer first and then add those flavorings near the end
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>>21940588
>>21940550
ooooh ...
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>>21940593
This anon gets it, time greatly changes garlic. Green onion for example is nearly gone after 50minutes of something. I recommend it in the last ten minutes if you want to taste it.
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>>21940745
not just garlic. every spice evaporates under enough heat.
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>>21940745
nobody is cooking green onion for 50 minutes in anything unless theyre retarded, in which case you wouldnt be able to explain anything to them anyway.
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>>21940802
In Indian cuisine they use a technique called "tadka" (tempering) to help maximise spice flavour. They bloom spices in oil or ghee for a couple of minutes then add it to the stew at the end, rather than cooking the spices in the stew for a long time.
This also works for herbs and aromatics like garlic.
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You gotta add the spices later.
Also this>>21940830
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>>21940507
Thats crazy. I watched a video of a guy who seasons his cutting board. NOT his steak!?! Isnt that wild?
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>>21940830
this is a solid method. I'm not the biggest fan of indian cuisine but they have figured out handling aromatics.
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>>21940505
why are you boiling a stew? you’re supposed to simmer it
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>>21940852
sounds like a lifetime /ck/ user
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>>21940505
I'll only tell you if you share source.
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>>21940505
>paprika
This only adds color. Retards will tell you that this is untrue but it's the placebo effect. Real cooks don't use it at all.
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>>21940507
>aromatics
Opinion disregarded. Meme buzz word that only cooklets who think that they are not cooklets use.
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>>21941049
shut the fuck up. don't talk about buzzwords when your entire post is nothing but meaningless buzzwords
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>>21941065
>>21941049
>>21941048
fellas, settle down.
just give me source for the hoe in OP, I'll be on my way, and you can discuss stews and spices amicably.
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>>21940815
someone has probably used it in soup or stew and realized it didn't build flavor like regular onions would
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>>21941126
*raises paw*
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>>21941165
*bear arms*
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>>21940907
If only, his beans or no beans in chili would be legendary.
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Yes
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>>21940745
you guys cook green onions?
i thought it was only to be ever used as a garnish fresh at the end of cooking. it tastes pretty good
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>>21940505
99% of the time you just get a soup or whatever to a low simmer like 180F and it doesn't lose much
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>>21940507
>high heat destroys the compounds that give them flavor
High heat or long exposure to any heat outside of a sealed container.
>>21941049
Correct. He said "volatile aromatics" which is a mish mash of chemistry and culinary lingo. There are culinary "aromatics" which are smelly things you add at the end like garlic or rosemary. There are also "volatile aromatic compounds" which are a group of chemicals that evaporate into the air rapidly. Yes, some of the components that give "aromatics" their characteristics are "volatile aromatic compounds". But "volatile aromatics" are not a thing, these are two different things from two completely different categories. So the dude you and I replied to is a retarded cooklet.
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i made a pretty good chicken noodle soup for my old job. i served it with croutons on the side tossed with deep fried sage, thyme and rosemary so that the flavors were bright. the soup stood up fine without the croutons but the croutons took it even higher
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>>21941048
>paprika only adds color
Someone's been selling you colored chalk dust. Real paprika has plenty of taste, even when mild.
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Boiling, or cooking at high heat, will destroy a lot of the antioxidants and other healthy chemicals (allicin in garlic, or curcumin in turmeric, for example)

I tend to add spices at the end of cooking when I want them for their medicinal value.
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>>21941553
>Correct
>proceeds to "agree" with an entirely different point, which ends up disagreeing to the replied to post
>is just being pedantic
go brush your teeth
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>>21940505
This is why I add the most salt and spices at the very beginning when you're sauteing.
(however, I don't recommend adding a shit ton of salt because that can end up drying out the meat)
You can get away with adding a lot of seasonings though, because that's all you're gonna need to until it's finished.
It balances itself out during the simmering process and it will taste better than if you added them in the middle of it or at the very end.
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>>21941049
Aromatic is a regular term in culinaire. It's just Anglos as always who fuck it up.
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so what now
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>>21941671
>confused anon is still confused
Oh well
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>>21940505
Whore fatigue.
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>>21941968
she looks like a nice girl. this picture is from before being a whore was normalized.
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>>21941977
Emo and scene girls were the biggest whores, though
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>>21941980
i can fix them
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>>21941968
>>21941977
>>21941980
>>21941982
Who is she?
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>>21942009
Lenexwants.
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>>21941968
ikr
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>>21940550
enjoy your tough meat
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>>21942222
>low and slow makes meat tough
condolences on your retardation
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>>21942009
Boxxy
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>>21942226
liar
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>>21940505
>Is it just me, or does boiling a stew outright eliminate most of the spices (paprika, cumin, garlic) after a while?
Yes.
The same way maintaining a thread without dropping Sauce eliminates most of the interest after a while.
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>>21942651
meds
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>>21940505
no
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>>21941670
In what world is uncooked garlic healthy
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>>21944342
why wouldnt it be? it's anti-bacterial and delicious.
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>>21944343
So you would eat a clove of raw garlic?
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>>21944740
Yes.
I consume two cloves daily,keeps the romanians away
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>>21944776
>romanians
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>>21940505
CUTE Boy!
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>>21940505
Hey Google, define Simmer
>"Simmer" - to stew gently below or just at the boiling point
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>>21944740
yes and i have on several occasions
>>21945057
mindbroken zoomers are so jealous of the time when we didnt have to worry about secret weiners
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>>21945110
you know what I'm jealous of? a time when someone asked for source, and someone just fucking provided it. or when reverse image searches weren't complete dogshit
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>>21945134
source is my myspace top 10
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>>21945148
>myspace
at first I was like
>top 10
then I was like
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>>21945148
>myspace
bro is so 2000 and late
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>>21940505
She has a fantastic bush btw
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>>21941048
Go find some real paprika from eastern europe, not the mccormic sawdust that’s been sitting in your spice cabinet for 5 years
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>>21945148
>top 10
this loser was never friends with Tom or Sammy. STOP PRETENDING TO BE SOMETHING YOU NEVER WERE
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>>21945173
source, now.
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>>21945288
As if that will ever happen
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>is coffee good for you: the thread
It’s still up
4cuck is dead, holy fuck
All fields
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>>21940505
You are partially right. It applies to every type of produce, not just spices. And you don't even need temperature. Compare it to a song. You've got a drum, a bass, guitar and voice.

Where you're right: every product has a smell and that smell is made up of dozens of aromas. A lot of those are very fragile and short lasting (guitar and voice), others persist in the background (drum and bass). Everything you smell when you cook is flavour that's lost: frying garlic, grinding pepper, cutting an onion, a stew on the stove, you name it.

Where you're wrong: cooking doesn't just destroy produce or aromas. It breaks them down and creates new connections. Like, Jimi Hendrix was a great guitarist, but with Mitch Mitchell on drums he was the goat. And Cobain was a shit singer and a very poor guitarist, but with Dave Grohl on drums he was something else.

Pepper is the best example. You only add it at the end. Once you grind it, you lose 70% of the aroma within 5 minutes. It begins to lose its aroma at 25°C/a regular summer's day. If you boil it, it gets destroyed almost completely. If you go higher than that (like, bake a piece of meat) it becomes unpleasantly bitter.

The same applies to meat, btw. You should stay well below boiling when making a stew.
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>>21945341

Hah, we are already on a food board, so it's the rare music analogy.
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>>21944776
Yikes.
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>>21945306
you can easily create the threads you want to see on this board
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>>21945834
>bro just ignore other people throwing trash on the ground, just make sure you throw yours away
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>>21945855
this but unironically
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>>21945855
Trash analogy
Filling the board with good threads pushes trash threads off the board.
You can even turn a shitty thread into a good one if you care enough.
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>>21941977
The phone picture quality alone tells me otherwise
Not saying she is a whore, just saying this is not pre-2016
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>>21945876
she used an actual digital camera and hooked it up with a usb cable to her computer and transferred the pictures over to her Pictures folder, and uploaded them her "*Rawr* Selfies" album on Photobucket.
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>>21941048
Has your paprika just expired or something? Paprika is a very flavourful spice.
Turmeric on the other hand...
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>>21945862
>Trash analogy
nah it's spot on. internet communities live and die by their admin team. if this site had leadership that actually cared about post quality it'd be a lot better. but we don't and as a result the post count has been steadily declining for years. telling people to just ignore bad threads doesn't change anything. they need to be actively removed or otherwise it will just encourage retards to create more shitty threads.
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Stew shouldn't be meat potatoes and carrots in water. It should be closer to a gravy.
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>>21945939
This. They don't give a fuck about post quality. They just ban and stalk people that beat them the fuck out during an argument while letting their shitposter buttbuddies run rampant.
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>>21940830
The one thing I've never understood is - once you've bloomed the whole spices like coriander in ghee, how are you supposed to get them broken down into powdered form after they've been sitting in fats? I can't be putting that shit in my spice grinder, surely?
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>>21946279
You just leave them whole, some people like it that way. If you don't like them left whole then you can crush them a bit before frying.
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>>21945951
i always fail at making a gravy. except with cream, thats easy mode
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>>21945890
Paprika dies very easily under heat.
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>>21940505
humina humina awooga
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The Indian method of finishing stews with spiced oil is superior, because yes, prolonged boiling destroys the flavour.

The one pot method is generally inferior because the ingredients in a chilli all have different cooking times. I recommend charring the onion, peppers, under the grill, adding them to the stewed meat later on in the cooking process, and the salted beans (if using) later again.

I produce 15kg of chilli in a batch, and this also means I can pressure cook the beans, grill the vegetables, stew the meat separately then combine them in the final pot in batches, because there's no sensible way of stewing 15kg of chilli in a single pot, it becomes very hard to handle.
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>>21941553
pedantic faggot
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>>21940505
BTB RTS
Bring to boil, reduce to simmer.
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>>21947985
>there's no sensible way of stewing 15kg of chilli in a single pot,
skill issue
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>>21942222
Is this the dumbest post to ever be posted on /ck/?
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>>21945876
>selfies were high quality before phones
Ok, this is the second dumbest post on /ck/
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>>21940505
That's a man
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>>21949098
you wish, gaybo
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>>21948003
This
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test
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>>21941049
This post was written by someone who has never peeled a clove of garlic.
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>>21941116
check your family portrait
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>>21941049
this guy fucks ^
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>>21950416
I don't get it.
Also, Goulash counts as stew, right?
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>>21951816
Most American response imaginable
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>>21951847
It's an American board, on an American site, where we discuss American food.
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>>21952532
... and your collective love of bbc. You all just can't get enough.
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>>21941515
normally the white is used in the cooking process and the greens are the garnish
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>>21941980
yeah just not for me haha *click-BANG*
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>>21940505
boiling anything in scalding water gives it that bland boiled water taste imo. there are exceptions but most dishes that are boiled in hot liquid tastes meh
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>>21953086
most water is dirty
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>>21946279
couldn't you just filter out the solids once they've infused the fats?
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>>21941573
my mom does this, she says the soup is just a vessel for her croutons
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>>21945939
I think there's conflict among the jannies though, there's been multiple times where I've eaten a 3 month ban for no apparent reason and then a few days later I'm no longer banned.
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>>21942009
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>>21947807
ochya0
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>>21945890
>Turmeric on the other hand...
Fresh turmeric has a weird taste. It's chemical-y, like saffron, but without the iodine undertone.
Dried turmeric has little flavor, but I kinda prefer it that way.
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>>21946279
>how are you supposed to get them broken down into powdered form
Mortar and pestle. Doesn't matter if they're greasy, as long as you don't use one of those meme smooth glass/ceramic/polished marble mortar/pestle combos.
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>>21953401
Based thank you anon
I'm going to jerk off when my family goes out
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how do i stop my stews from being so sweat
iv tried adding vinegar, i know onions and carrots tend to be sweat when cooked but i like my stews on the more savory beefy side and all mine end up too sweat
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>>21953782
ESL?
Don't go for a jog before leaning over your stews, for one thing.
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>>21953401
based

now I can close this shit thread
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>>21953401
>ochya0
I don't particularly care for stew, paprika, or cumin (garlic is okay)
Thank you for your post.



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