How does one nation manage to simultaneously flavormog so many other countries at their own cuisine?
>>21947365Can you provide examples to support your position?
>>21947369That's the secret sauce, huh? Why haven't other countries discovered this yet?
>>21947367it would take too long to write out all specific examples. it's literally everything. anything you can think of is done better in an american style.>>21947369all other countries have all of this, even processed cheese product. and if you think american cheese cant be real cheese then you're simply undereducated on the subject.
>>21947385congrats retard you proved my point about your ignorance.
>>21947404>He eats cheese made of pasturized milk, and not fresh raw milk made and aged on a farmLmao keep eating your mass produced slop, pleb.
>>21947383so you have no examples, got it.
>>21947383you're a cooklet addicted to artificial flavourings made in a lab , hence why every American "recipe" tells you to add literal garbage to already perfected dishes
>>21947367self-evident.>>21947365because we're just that much fucking more amazing due to the freedom and shit.
>>21947365my guess is extraneous sugar and salt"i'm mildly obese but not because i drink soda for every meal" (double-overweight everywhere else)"gotta watch your sodium intake" (never heard of that being a thing, except from americans)
>>21947404
>>21947365because we are not locked in to how food is made by tradition like other countries. china thinks rice should always be eaten plain.
>>21947404Is vegetable rennet common in other countries?
>>21947404the only difference between the ingredients of cheddar and the ingredients of american cheese is sodium citrate and added milk to make it more meltable. that's it. you are very low IQ and for that i offer my condolences.>>21947414i just told you it's literally everything. i know you're esl but this is a very simple concept>>21947417>hence why every American "recipe" tells you to add literal garbage to already perfected dishesexamples? i cook all my own food and have passed beyond the need for recipes so whatever hurdles you're finding in your cooking journey dont really bother me anymore.
>>21947423it says it's a cheese snack.it doesn't say it's a person snack.it's for your cheese.
>>21947432>>21947434absolutely seething
>>21947429>"make thread saying america has better versions of other country's cuisine">ok give some examples>"w-we're better at a-all of them i don't n-need to give examples..."i accept your concession
>>21947444what exactly are you not understanding about "everything"? what's "everything" in arabic? maybe your friends can help you understand
>>21947436It's all the backwards cousin fuckers in the South and Midwest that drag us down. If the US was just New England we'd be in the top 5 globally for every educational measure
>>21947365because we are a nation of immigrants. remember that MAGAtards are trying to take this away from you.
>>21947436as if they would know what the image you posted meansthe concept of american exceptionalism will probably never go away unless by brute force>>21947447i dont think you know what the word "friends" means
>>21947450i said it was cheese i didn't say it was emulsifier free. holy shit it's so hard to talk to the lesser races. they just dont want to learn.
>>21947367Fish n’ Chips
>>21947472your ingredient list was for a cheese food product, not cheese, you dumb idiot. proving that you are completely ignorant of what american cheese actually is
>>21947483keep moving the goalpost stupid, you lost. american cheese is cheese. you're conflatinf it with cheese product because you're an idiot
>>21947497>posting redditjacks too scared to directly replyI'll just gracefully accept your concession now. preciate ya pal
>>21947504>>21947505>STILL seething
>>21947466Italian foods
>>21947365This only applies to brown people food. America adapts it for the superior White palate.
Americans do make some nice stuff. But that doesn't mean the average American eats particularly well
>>21947552Did you even read the ingredients on that package? Is milk a tranny chemical to you?
>>21947552lmao imagine not being able to read an ingredient label. it clearly says american cheese is milk, cheese culture, salt and enzymes, i.e. the ingredients of cheese. thanks for proving my point AGAIN you absolute buffoon
>>21947589The colors are paprika and annato (English cheddar has been using those for centuries). The preservative is sorbic acid which was first extracted from a berry.
>>21947598>The colors are paprika and annato(English cheddar has been using those for centuries)Not in England we don't.
>>21947718https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annatto>England is another country that has used annatto to color its cheeses; colorants have been added to Gloucester cheese as early as the 16th century to allow inferior cheese to masquerade as the best Double Gloucester, with annatto later being used for that purpose. This usage was subsequently adopted in other parts of the UK, for cheeses such as Cheshire and Red Leicester, as well as colored Cheddar made in Scotland.[16][14] Many cheddars are produced in both white and red (orange) varieties, the only difference between the two being the presence of annatto as a coloring.[17]
>>21947373>Why haven't other countries discovered this yet?They ban it so their citizens don't die of cancer at the age of 60. Europeans, for some reason, like keeping their elderly alive and will sacrifice their entire continent to keep grandma artificially alive until she reaches 100 years old.
>>21947736>uses wikipediaREALLY ??????You also failed to prove the point your are trying to make.English Cheddars do not use Annatto. (except rare ones that are specified as coloured). Please tell me more about my country.
>>21947365>Dumb amerilard thinks other cuisines haven't evolvedJesus crust man
>>21947748Yes. I really use Wikipedia because it's accurate more often than not. If you take issue with that then feel free to check the sources they cite.And forgive me for not caring about the distinction between Scotland and England given you share the same island and are part of the same empire.>Cheeses that use annatto in at least some preparations include:Cheddar (UK)[18]Cheshire (UK)[19]Colby (US)[20]Gloucester (UK)[21]Leyden (Netherlands)[22]Livarot (France)[23]Mimolette (France)[24]Mont des Cats (France)[25]Muenster (US)[26]Red Leicester (UK)[27]Saint Paulin (France)[28]Shropshire Blue (UK)[29]>Please tell me more about my country.With pleasure. It's my solemn duty as an American.
>>21947761You are still wrong but waffling around that fact but I accept your concession.And just a pro-tip . . .I wouldn't put too much faith in Wikipedia, it's seriously riddled with errors and falsities.
>>21947774>I wouldn't put too much faith in Wikipedia, it's seriously riddled with errors and falsities.Spoken like a true redditor. Again, you're free to check the sources listed in the article. In any case I put more stock in it than some lical who probably doesn't read food labels.The core point is annato has been used for centuries in England and is still used today, whether specifically cheddar or other cheeses like red Leicester. Any denial you make of this easily verifiable fact is cope.
>>21947785You are backsliding and you know it. Your original comment was >>21947598>The colors are paprika and annato (English cheddar has been using those for centuries)I proven you wrong and now you are squirming with excuses. As for your wikipedia sources . . . they are written by . . .. . surprise surprise - Americans! You lost kiddo . . .deal with it.
>>21947365Yeah, your uhh thanksgiving *snigger* dinners are uhh *snigger* such an improv- ahahahahaha
>>21947794The point of that comment was that annatto is not in any way unique to American cheese. It is used in England as well. I'll happily concede on the cheddar thing because who gives a shit? The actionable point stands regardless.>>21947794>As for your wikipedia sources . . . they are written by . . .. . surprise surprise - Americans!Not relevant. Also #17 is an irish website.
>>21947797Yeah those St. Patrick's day meals sure looked like a flav- haaaaaaaa
>>21947797>>21947801I saw them, they were truly horrific offerings.
>>21947785>Spoken like a true redditor.Ad hominem, didn't read any further because your entire point is now moot
>>21947365Do Americans really?
>>21947369>American version of other cuisines:>>add sneed oils>>corn syrup>>sugar>>american "cheese">>and food coloringThis more accurately describes Asian food than anything else, lol. Asians will eat noodles with ketchup and cut up hotdogs. Or they'll put ketchup and american cheese in their ramen. But they won't get any hate for it because all of millennials/zoomers have some kind of yellow fever programming after watching pokemon on TV.
>>21947367>>21947414>>21947444American sushi BTFOs Jap sushi that it became a culture export to Japan. Meanwhile nobody in America will be eating plain unseasoned fish with nothing on it because we have standards.
>>21947946>Meanwhile nobody in America will be eating plain unseasoned fish with nothing on it because we have standards.Not the anons you replied to. I take issue here, in that apart from a few places on the coast Americans don't have access to fresh fish anyway.Secondly, I agree that ' Meanwhile nobody in America will be eating plain unseasoned fish' . . .reason being that you seem to cover your food with as much as possible to distract from the blandness, be it ketchup, chilli sauce, ranch, Lawrys, or all of the above. I won't even mention your FDA 'standards'.
>>21947965Lol bro.... Look up literally any Asian country's interpretation of Italian food. What you're describing is something that Asians do more than anyone else, but you'll worship them when they do it.
>>21947365I am sure Iowa has a great selection of classic French fine dining style establishments. Actually my dream is to save up some money so I can make a trip to America and experience my own continents cuisine elevated by the cooking geniuses of the USA.
>>21947968NTA but I will remind you the highest rated pizzeria in the world is located in Tokyo and picrel is celebrity chef David Chang's favorite pizza place (Seirinkan) also located in Tokyo, Japan.
>>21947973I lel'd irl
>>21947968>What you're describing is something that Asians do more than anyone elseNo I accurately described what Americans do.Another thing Americans do is take a dish from another nation, rename it and claim they invented it, along with a nice little story explaining how it was 'invented' in the USA!Salisbury steak is one example, they were called Rissoles in Britain and Frikadelle in Germany (can't be bothered to check other countries) but they existed long before America was founded. Same applies to umpteen things such as potato chips, hot dogs, fried chicken, peanut butter, etc.
>>21947946No that's retarded, I love raw sushi better than any American sushi. I want fish, not a bunch of cream cheese and deep fried shit. If I want deep fried shit I'll go eat that at a fair or something. Don't fuck with my fish because you're some landlocked flyover who doesn't eat any seafood besides long John silvers and filet o fish.Sincerely an east Coast American
>>21948006I'm really not pretentious about eating sushi at all but nothing beats a simple maki roll for me desu No one goes to an Italian restaurant and expects ketchup tagliatelle or a French restaurant and expects a medium well steak with mayonnaise but when it comes to sushi everyone seems to agree that cucumber cream cheese rolls are perfectly fine, it actually really bothers me.
>>21947365Flavour, no matter the cost
>>21947365If Burgers can't add plastic cheese or convenient sauces to dishes they can't "improve" anything.
>>21948055Didn't RFK Jr force all the soda companies to put sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup?
>>21948069No.
>>21947427Yeah, that's why they invented fried rice you dumb fuck. And none of the "supposed" american chinese dishes are better than authentic chinese like Hongshaorou, Hainan chicken, Peking duck, Cha Sieuw and chinese salt and pepper seasonings.
>>21947449Wrong group of people to be seething at
>>21947449California brings everyone down
>>21948138Nah. Break down "US Whites" by state and I'd still be 100% correct.
>>21947365Can you tell me what happens in South Dakota?
>>21948069he said he was
>>21948194a lot of meth gets smoked
>>21948069>>21948209He wants to exclude soda from SNAP benefits.
>>21947995>Salisbury steak is one example, they were called Rissoles in Britain and Frikadelle in GermanyNeither of those things are Salisbury steak, retard.
>>21948209So did it happen? If you go to the supermarket is the soda different now? I'm just curious.
As a fatso, your idea of flavour is sugar and fat.
>>21948018>but when it comes to sushi everyone seems to agree that cucumber cream cheese rolls are perfectly fineBecause it's an improvement on the dish it's inspired from, whereas ketchup on pasta and mayo on steak are downgrades. Asians aren't very culinary minded. They don't know what works well together because they've only known the same 5 ingredients their whole life. You introduce them to ketchup and they start adding that to every dish for the rest of their lives.
we have only just begunhttps://www.brighteon.com/0423765f-af68-4fc8-9b29-3ae8a450fdfe
>>21948176Mississippi has a higher HDI than Canada shitskin.Nothing will make up for your inferiority, not even anonymity.
>>21950529We're not talking about Canada. Also I guarantee I'm whiter than you.
>>21947451>only brown people can cook brown foodJust when you thought libtard racism couldn't get more racismer
>>21947365It's amazing what you can tell yourself you're achieving when you have no idea what you're trying to do in the first place.
>>21947444It would be an exercise orders of magnitude easier to name cuisines that America hasn't improved. I'll let you start since you seem confident enough
>>21947444Mexican food. If you disagree with me then you haven't tried Taco Bell
>>21952309Authentic TexMex is even better than fastfood TexMex.
immigrants
>>21952348Unironically this
>>21947979>but what about this one single pizzeriaThat's great but that doesn't really have much bearing on anon's point of asians largely having incredibly dogshit interpretations of italian food, does it?
>>21952372That's because they don't really have bread in Asia
>>21947365I dunno, most genuinely American food that I've tried has been pretty mid>Hershey bars are fucking vile. Smells like upchuck and has the consistency of chalk>Jelly Bellies are pretty nice but I'm keenly aware while I'm eating them that they're basically just a bunch of petrochemical based artificial flavorings and they're shaving weeks off my life by eating them>Taco Bell is fucking shit (at least the version we have in my country is anyway)>Carl's Jr is pretty decent. Not great but the double cheeseburgers are a good price for what they are>Fireball whiskey is okay but I can only have 5-6 shots of it before the taste gets too overwhelming>Mad Dog 20/20 is fucking awful and anybody who touches it should be quarantined from civilization
>>21953657>literally all fastfood slop that only trailer park residents eat>or jelly beans which nobody at all eatsfrench people are fucking retarded I can't believe they think picrel is a taco and also the height of their cuisine. it's fucking shit.
>>21953657have you considered actually trying the food instead of packaged slop for toddlers?
>>21947979Who the fuck is David Chang?
>>21947367Japan makes the best curryJapan makes the candyDon't know why OP is posting America, Pizza I guess, but that's 2 to japan against 1 to america
>>21953726>packaged slop for toddlerslooks like anon did in fact try the american """food"""
>>21947365Mutt nation = Mutt cusine Isn't it FUCKING EMBARESSING to be so transparently STUPID and UNEDUCATED stupid fucking americunts
>>21953890Cx
all I want is to be fun and freewon't you be my sweet honey bee?
>>21953902Not nearly as embarrassing as getting so transparently flavormogged by a nation of mutts.
>>21947365Thats due to the immigrants of said culture bringing it to america.
>add a tablespoon of salt>add 2 tablespoons sugar>add artificial flavouring and MSG>add corn syrup>add carcinogenic pesticides>MMMMM WE FLAVORMOG YOU O ALGO
>>21947965>fresh fishFreshness as a requirement/mark of quality in sushi is an old marketing meme largely meant to comfort westerners who were until very recently squeamish about the concept. The original narezushi was literally fermented with several aspects of the modern process meant to give a milder more palatable version of that pickled funk
>>21947365all the american versions of food ive eaten have been worse desu
>>21953657>poverty chocolate that was never meant to be good>Jelly beans that peaked in popularity 40+yrs ago>fast food brands that cater to drunks coming home from the bar>hobo liquor While pretty disconnected from what people actually eat day to day it does sound like a pretty good time if you're enough of a degenerate
>>21953971>>21953657I think the problem a lot of you are having is you pass the "American" section of the grocery store and come out thinking that's what American cuisine is actually like.If I went to the oriental section at my grocery store and thought asians ate nothing but instant ramen, soy sauce, and sriracha then you'd rightfully call me a retard.
>>21947367Italian and mexican got improved by USA, they didn't even have spaghetti with meatballs before America bcame along and invented it
>>21953657Yuros love self-reporting that they have the critical thinking skills and impulse control of the worst kinds of trailer trash. They see shiny shit on the packaging and their brains turn off.
>>21947513kek @ the deleted posts in the archive. op really got em worked up with this one
>>21953977I agree with this anon. We basically rely on adding cans of soup, packet mixes, as well as a lot of frozen crap to make our recipes. It's a shame we have no imagination.
>>21953985>before America bcame along and invented itHow can this delusion be serious?
>>21954459And Italians had tomatos before euros discovered the new world
>>21954484What food existed in the USA before Europeans?Corn (even then it was almost inedible until Euros developed it). What else? I'll wait.
>>21954490Corn was already pretty much in modern form by the time of European contact.Apart from that, and tomatos obviously, there's potatoes, chili peppers, avocados, cassava, cranberries, peanuts, syphilis, chocolate, and many more.You're welcome.
>>21954503They are nothing to do with the USA, they are South American and you are trying to claim glory for their foodstuffs. So what has North America given the world?Wtf is cassava and cranberries exist in europe . . . .fucking jesus you are a sad sack.
>>21954490>food that sustained civilizations = "basically inedible" Holy shit, what happened to the Euro education system?
>>21954510Learn english or go to the third world inage boards
>>21954514>>21954516Your cope just makes me laugh even harder.
>>21954510you really should study a dictionary or something, this is just sad
>>21954522You lost kid . .. . .anybody can see that.
ITT Another episode of Americans being reckt.
>>21954510"USA" didn't exist prior to European contact so I responed to your obvious mistake by generalizing.Chili peppers were in north America prior to European contact.Cassava is tapioca.Different species of cranberry.I could add other shit like turkey to the list if you wanna be autistic.
>>21954521Genuine retard.Maize already looked like the right (but usually more colorful) centuries before European contact.American natives were capable of selective breeding.
>>21954529>>21954531refer to my comment here >>21954525Seethe moar kids . . . . .good night.
>Uneducated third worlder sticks his head in the sand while proclaiming his victory Euros are a funny breed.
>>21954525>>21954538>gets wrecked>declares himself the victorYou sure you're not American?
>>21947973Love this picture. Jamie Oliver is a good guy