I never believed it could happen to me, but it happened to me: I got gout. Rich mans disease my ass. Deenz, beer, and liver pate are staples of a poverty diet.What kind of foods did you guys switch to to alleviate your gout? Keep in mind I couldn't afford fresh vegetables before, and now I can't even walk to the store to get them if I had that kind of money.
>>21957136>I couldn't afford fresh vegetablesI've got nothing to say about gout, but where are you that canned fish and beer is cheaper than vegetables? Is the only store near you a Whole Foods?
>>21957136stop drinkingeat more leafy greensthat's all you have to do. use frozen vegetables if you have to. they're often more nutritious than fresh ones anyway.
>>21957136>hey google, what is goutoh interesting so I just need to stop eating foods that are rich in oxalic acid? sounds simple enough.
>>21957136It's the liver
>>21957141Home brew beer costs like $1/gallon.Fresh green vegetables are very much a luxury. They often cost more than meat (pork shoulder and hocks go for $2/lb), while having practically no nutritional value. Plus they usually go bad before you can use it all.Deenz are rather expensive, but it's a pantry staple for when the fridge is empty. I stock up when they're on sale.
>>21957152I hardly ever eat liver, but two weeks ago I got a tube of pate cause I had a hankering, and perhaps its a coincidence, but right after finishing that I got an acute flare up of gout that's only gotten worse over the last week.
>>21957144>use frozen vegetables if you have to. they're often more nutritious than fresh ones anyway.I think this is going to have to be the solution.I've been pleasantly surprised by frozen peas in the past. Do other vegs freeze as well as peas?
>>21957136how old are you???
>>21957163Almost 40.
>>21957161Yes and No? How good they are depends on the preparation. Frozen corn and peas do well in a pot with butter, but other ones you’d want to oven roast or they’r pretty soggy to eat.> B sprouts> broccoli> cauliflowerPan sauteing is fine for frozen onions, bell peppers, and green beans
>>21957136>Eating a diet soley consisting of Purine rich foodsI'd wager if you got excercise and cut the beer you wouldn't get the gout. Also how often are you excercising and drinking. If you're have 2 beers a night that adds up. The sedentary lifestyle will get you more than the diet itself will.
Is this Kim Jong Un that keeps making these threads?
>>219571752L of beer a night, nothing crazy. Been pretty sedentary the last 6 months though. Dog has gotten too old to go for walks in the winter, and I broke my foot in the autumn.How tf am I supposed to get exercise now that I got gout? Even doing nothing hurts.
>>21957201>2L of Beer>Nothing crazyNigga thats a 6 pack of beer a night thats not healthy at all. I'm not against drinking persay but you would only see me drink that once a week in a single sitting>Excercise Given your condition its too late for any excercise right this moment. Your best bet is to cut the beer and eat some simple lentils and other good whole foods. I know you said fresh veggies are expensive but I'm sure after cutting back on beer for a month or two you would have the extra money to afford veggies and make some stir frys and good chicken and veggie stews.
Cherries help. Frozen ones can be cheap
>>21957136Cherries helped my dads gout.
Op is gouted
>>21957136>I couldn't afford fresh vegetables before>Fresh green vegetables are very much a luxury. They often cost more than meat (pork shoulder and hocks go for $2/lb),where the fuck do you live. aside from that just buy frozen veggies. maybe try some fruit. also give the beer a break
>>21957201>2L of beer a nightyeah...you're an alcoholic
>>21957209I drink 10 almost every night.>>21957141Natty ice 30 pack for 15 bucks even here.
>>21957218>Natty ice 30 pack for 15 bucks even here.Where the fuck do you live? A 24 pack (we dont even get 30s) of Natty is like $22.99 here
>>21957136fellow KING
>>21957209>>21957214Fresh produce is expensive. This is what my local grocer has on sale this week. They also have chicken for $2/lb and smoked ham for $3/lb. Compare the macro nutrients you get per dollar.A pound of meat is a hell of a lot more filling than 1.5 bell peppers or a head of lettuce. I make my own beer so it's cheap as fuck, and I already have the next 300L, so quitting drinking doesn't actually save me any money at this point.
>>21957218>10 cans of Natty Ice a nightGenuinely you have more of an alcohol problem than a purine rich food problem. You're drinking a detrimental amount of borderline swill everynight. Nat Ice is like a step above what alcoholics buy to ward off the shakes pic rel. You'll need to heavily cut back on drinking.
>>21957229get the carrots and the lemons. bellpepper can be unreasonably expensive, sometimes it's cheap though I don't know if it depends on the season or not, right now it seems to be expensive
>>21957229>and I already have the next 300L*already have the ingredients for the next
>>21957229>Drinking the beer is basically freeIt doesn't matter the cost its contributing to the problem and you drinking your low quality swill is not helping>local grocer pricesDon't know where you live but I'd recommend finding a farmer or buying from some sort of co-op or getting a costco membership to buy their veggies as they are cheap by volume. Not sure what to tell you, you can't put a price on health. The prices you pictured aren't terrible but they aren't going to break the bank either.
Are you in the Gout Belt of the Southern Balkans?
>>21957156>Vegetables cost too much I can't afford them>Also I'd get so much of it I couldn't eat all that in 1-2 weeks>This despite them not having any nutritional value Just admit you're a fat retard
>>21957233I got a bag of limes from the food bank that I've been raw dogging. Never realized how delicious limes were. Just thinking about dem limes is giving me a hankering. Matter of fact, I'm going to eat one right now.I buy carrots, onions, garlic and ginger. Those are always good value and keep long enough to never go to waste.
>>21957239I'm actually 2 days sober now. It fucking sucks. Getting drunk was a ray of sunshine in an otherwise bleak world.Losing the only thing that was ever good AND having gout is hell. Might as well be dead.
>>21957254Give it a week, youre still booze brained. Takes at least a month to clear your head if you actually go heavy.
>>21957222Kansas.
>>21957231I take a break every couple months when my liver starts hurting
i've had gout since i was 20
>>21957268How old are you now? Lay some wisdom on us, I want to hear the story of how you got gout and how you dealt with it.
>>21957136As someone who had gout and got rid of it, just cut off your foot. It'll save a lotta hassle down the road.
>>21957136>liver pateThat's the one that did it. Don't eat so much organ meat, ya fuckin retard.
>>21957280>organ meat
>>21957210>>21957212Well I'll be damned. It's true.I just checked walmart's web page and frozen cherries apparently aren't even a thing. :\
when you talk about "eating vegetables" you should be thinking about eating nutritionally dense legumes and not literal fucking leaves. No one is meeting their caloric demands via lettuce. No way are lentils more expensive than meat where you live. learn2nutrirtion
>>21957310Seeing as frozen cherries aren't available, and fresh cherries are both seasonal and expensive af, do you think canned cherry pie filling would work?
>>21957269i got gout because it runs in my fathers family every male on his side has it and i got it tooI'm 33 and you deal with it by just taking painkillers or taking meds that have worse side effects then just dealing with gouttruth be told it's manageable some drays it flairs up and then you can go weeks and it's like you never have it
>>21957311When have beans ever as a serving of vegetables?If bean burritos counted as veggies we'd all have impeccable diets.
literally just buy rice, beans and potatoes dumbassthere's a reason peasants survived on this shit for millenia, literally the basic staple foods for humanity
>>21957325Brutal. Do you get the gout in any other joints or just the toes?I realize I got the gout now that my big toe joint is fucked, but before my knee inexplicably swelled up and was arthritic in a similar way, and was fine a week later. I wonder if that was related.
>>21957325big toe, elbows, and knees
>>21957218It's normal to have health problems like gout when you're an alcoholic. You have to reduce your drinking by a lot anon.
>>21957258>Kansas Beer that cheapBullshit this guy lives in Kansas and hops the border to get Cheap alcohol in Missouri. Even in BFE kansas I've never seen those prices. Those Flatland Fuckers need to stay on their side of the border and stop shitting up our state.
>>21957141>where are you that canned fish and beer is cheaper than vegetables?NTA but that describes parts of Scandinavia. Alaska too from what I've heard.
>>21957201Booze will trigger gout every few days and you'll be in pain for at least a week.So will stress, red meat, fish, turkey, seed oils. You want keto, fasting, Mediterranean diet, fiber and drinking more water. Gout meds and nsaids will calm down the pain a bit or will knock a few days off if you caught it first thing
>>21957229Vodka won't trigger gout like beer will. The ham is adding to the problem.Unless you get meds from a doctor, you can only slow down uric acid from building up in your body
>>2195716840 huh? stop being a lil bitch, you're still a spring chicken.
>>21957697>fish>turkeyI'm gonna assume in good faith here but adding to this anon means like non canned fish, something cleaner like salmon and then for turkey non deli meat turkey. Ground turkey or fresh cooked turkey is fine.
>>21957136WELL I'LL TELL YOU WHEN I'VE HAD ENOUGH
>>21957338>before my knee inexplicably swelled upEdema. Often connected to water retention and dehydration. You should probably try a diuretic like dandelion tea, or just drink a bunch of regular tea. Gotta clear out the toxins. Stay extra hydrated
>>21957156>while having practically no nutritional valueLmao enjoy your gout retard
>>21957358Ur right.
>>21957136It's the beer. Stop drinking beer.
>>21957136>Deenz, beer, and liver pate are staples of a poverty diet.Imagine being this much of a retard
>>21957310Bullshit, I get them in frozen berry mixtures all the time, and they have them plain too for a reasonable price year round.
what are the symptoms? asking for a friend
>>21958081Your toe is really hurty and you can't even put your shoe on anymore because..... OUCHIE!!
>>21957649Are you nuts? Beer costs you an arm and a leg in Scandinavia
>>21957136>Rich mans disease my ass. Deenz, beer, and liver pate are staples of a poverty diet.my guess it the term comes from a time where the average poorfag wasn't overweight nor sedentary
>>21958110secondedhalf a liter of cheap beer in Norwegistan is $2,8 at a store and $13,5 at a barDenmark and Sweden are remarkably cheaper though
>>21958110NTA but have you seen beer prices in Canada. No wonder Canada is imploding when it cost a quarter of your weekly salary to get drunk.
>>21957925They don't have them where I am. They got strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, cranberries, various berry blends and fruit medleys, but no frozen cherries
>>21957918Like I'd want to know where he's getting Deenz so cheap he can make it a staple in his diet but veggies break the bank. OP has to be a Finn larping as a Kansas resident.
>>21957201Based and beer pilled.
>>21957329americans can't go more than 2 seconds without consuming animal flesh
Get a prescription for 300mg allopurinol. It will not happen again.
>>21957136my headcanon is that all anime characters have gout and diabetes and other metabolic diseases because they're always eating giant bone meats and huge bowls of curry, and like 2,000 kcal in one sitting.
>>21957136I heard cherry juice helps.
>>21957340and fat. never forget OP is alwats a great big fat fuck
I'm having a mild gout attack right this moment. Started in the soft flesh of my left food right under my middle toe, has now dispersed into a swollen feeling in the entire foot. Pain is quite low. I've been told these mild ones are weight loss related attacks where old crystals are breaking down.
>>21957136THATS MY PURSE!I DONT KNOW YOU!
>>21957136You can drag down your blood uric acid levels by taking benzbromarone. Unless of course you're an American, in which case you're fucked because your medical-governmental complex banned it in the 1970s to force you to use the newly-patented and much more expensive allopurinol instead.Don't fall for the "we have a new improved drug instead of allopurinol now!" routine, the replacement they're trying to push (febuxostat) literally has "sudden death" as one of its side effects.
>>21961038Yeah, it took me almost a year after going on benzbromarone to stop having mild gout pain.Literally the only risk with benzbromarone is that your liver eventually gets pissed off about it, so you have to get liver enzyme tests every few months and stop taking it for a while if your liver gets out of whack.
>>21957136Look into magnesium bicarbonate (not sold anywhere btw, make it yourself).>1. Order magnesium hyroxide powder online (cheap)>2. Buy carbonated or sparkling water from any store (e.g. Sprite) (also cheap)>3. Mix a 1/4th of a teaspoon of the magnesium hydroxide into a 1/2 litre bottle of carbonated water.>4. Shake. Wait 2 - 4 hours.>5. Drink.>6. The highly-alkalized magnesium bicarbonate travels to the most acidic locations inside your body, in this case the highly acidic uric crystals from gout>7. Crystals dissolved, gets pissed away from the body>8. Do this until gout is alleviated (result is not immediate)
>>21962833Oh, and also Allopurinol like this guy said >>21958980. Also (relatively) cheap.
>>21957136You need to stop drinking retard
>>21957201>2L of beer a night, nothing crazykek this is why i open these threadsi love this place
>>21957136Nettles. They're free and in season: https://keplite.com/beyond-the-sting-nettle-soup/
>>21962949Red pill me on nettles. I tried your link but they don't want me to know.
>>21957136I had my first flare up during the great Coof of 2020. I was a chef, I got laid off, I didn't want to work in a nursing home or get the jab, I spent my lockdown collecting my funemployment checks and stimmies, getting paid almost twice as much as I made when I worked because of the enhanced funemployment, and I spent my days drinking tons of beer, getting red lobster surf and turf door dashed to my apartment three times a day, and sitting around playing video games. When it was time to go back to work, I had to take an extra day to go to the doctor, because my toe was so swollen that I couldn't fit my foot in my shoe, and it hurt like a bitch.It's permanent, once you fuck up enough that your kidneys can't properly filter purines any more, you have to change your diet for the rest of your life. Less red meat, can't even look at most offal, no beer, cut way back on refined sugar, and I still get a minor flare up once, every winter. If I even feel a twinge in my big toe, I suck down a lot of cherry juice and water, and soak it in a hot bath, and even if I do flare up, it's not as bad and doesn't last as long.
It's so fucking weird, I read this thread a few days ago and no shit got gout like two days later. I'm not fat or anything (well, I was a bit heavier before and lost it), but I do drink too much.Had a bunch of booze and McDonalds in a random binge, and bam. Gout. It went away yesterday though.
>>21963130Are you changing your lifestyle now? It's pretty rare for lightning to strike the same spot twice.
>>21957156I just got a pile of cucumbers, some raspberries, oranges, a pineapple, and potatoes all for around 10$
>>21957201weed. the scary kind that makes you question all your life choices not the munchies kind
>>21957231wow they changed the branding on the beast haven't drank that in sooooo long
>>21957358and illinoisians hopping over for gas a dollar or two cheaper per gallon
>>21963142Yes and no. I've actually been on a booze break and diet for the better part of February and March, but have had a couple of cheat days recently.Kicking the drinking is the hardest thing, since I'm a single dude in his 30s, and getting out with friends to do anything almost always involves booze.
>>21963113>It's permanent, once you fuck up enough that your kidneys can't properly filter purines any more, you have to change your diet for the rest of your life. Less red meat, can't even look at most offal, no beer, cut way back on refined sugar, and I still get a minor flareFuck... getting old is the gayest shit ever.Might as well double down, go hard on the good things as long as you can, and ride the train off the rails.https://files.catbox.moe/hh73m5.mp4
