>mix some into some milk to melt my cheese in>make certain groups of people seethe in the processIs it truly the most versatile ingredient?
cant find where my small bag of it is. frickin....
>>21987915you can make some if you have citric acid and baking soda. 5:4 ratio citric acid to baking soda.
it doesn't make anyone seethe. just don't call it cheese (which thankfully your government recognizes not to but you however do not).
>Non-GMOThat's funny, like gluten-free water.
>>21987991>your governmentextremely disingenuous. other countries have the same cheese and label it in a much more dishonest way, with E#s instead of real ingredient names. And they will call it cheese and not qualify it with "product". kind of seems like america has the most honest ingredient labels. thanks for bringing this to my attention.picrel has sodium citrate, for example ("emulsifier E331")
>>21988006and here's a non-american example with an additional qualifying word. guess that BTFOs your data point of 1. it's not real cheese.
>>21987991>which thankfully your government recognizesThat's incorrect.>>21988006It's not the emulsifier that requires the "product" label, it's the amount of added whey/other non-cheese ingredients.
>>21988031>weight in ounces and grams>not AmericanOkay buddy retard.
>>21988031the example i posted was not american either, dummy.
>>21987991>it doesn't make anyone seethe.There is at least one poster on this board who regularly seethes about sodium citrate for some reason.
>>21987986I do actually. Cool trick, I’ll try this. Someone post the webm of the guys house being drone striked in middle America
>>21987986>>21988056NO DON'T DO THIS IT MAKES MUSTART GAS
>cheese mixed with a type of sodium isn’t a cheeseIt’s still cheese though. Cheese mixed with other things are still considered cheese
By the way, it's always Europeans who seethe about this and American cheese. Asians love the stuff.
>>21988064>It’s still cheese thoughGreat! Then surely they can put on the label that it's 100% real cheese right?
>>21988073Can any cheese that contains other shit do that?
>>21988073Correct
>>21988080Oh...then why does this one not say it?
>>21988103Why is this the hill you chose to die on?
>>21988149let him have it, he sounds desperate to get a win today.
>>21988149Why can't you answer the question?
>>21988165I'm not even the guy you were sperging at, my man. I just think you're real invested in this and I'm genuinely worried about you. You doing alright?
>>21988103Because it has added whey, retard. I've already explained this to you in this thread and probably countless others.
>>21988031>net weight 8 oz>not American
>>21988188Right, and so we can then conclude that it's not just 100% real cheese.
>>21988215Yeah, because of the added whey, not because of the emulsifying salts. Glad you finally understand.
>>21988103I can post pictures too retard.>i-it says processed...that means it's not cheese!!Kill yourself.
>>21988056found it
>>21988248But you literally said it's still cheese despite the label not saying 100% real cheese...I don't think you're equipped to be having this conversation, shart. Your educational system failed you. I can't even be mad at that. You were fucked before you were even born.
>>21988309see>>21988255I won't give you any more (You)s you disingenuous piece of shit.
>>21988312you're seething rn, proving op's point.
>>21988301it's not the recipe for a bomb I swear. you just dissolve citric acid in water and react it with a base in this case sodium bicarbonate to form sodium citrate the salt of citric acid. simple chemistry really.
here's the video where I learned all this scientistic stuff. fair warning: you need to be a fart smella to understand all this.https://youtu.be/UTGzLor4k4M?si=-LHeG3GyVvoi3rG9
>>21988056>>21988301Not even the slightest idea about chemistry, holy shit.Citric acid can be regarded as citrate with an extra proton, baking soda contains the sodium and is a base. The idea is just to get rid of the proton as water and with the sodium the remaning citrate results in sodium citrate. As unbalanced equation (not bothering)CitH + NaHCO3 -> Na3Cit + CO2 + H2OAbsolutely harmless
>>21988031https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aGNAxN5Z-oits litreally cheese
>>21988517>canadianopinion discarded
>>21988327>>21988353Y'all ain't from round here, are ya?
>>21987893>want to buy some of this to try out>amazon listings start at 500gWhat in the world am I going to do with half a kilo, get one jar to use for the rest of my life?
>>21988695>put some in a small ziplock bag>vacuum seal the bigger portion in a mason jar until you need to use itnot that hard.
>>21988353what are you, a chemist?
>>21987893actually if you mix this with cheese it is NOT cheese it is american cheese product and probably made of plastic too
>>21988813the op didn't say it was. he said he melted cheese with it and milk and that it made you seethe (which it did). never stated what the final product was.
>>21987893Sodium citrate is the oldest trick in the modernist cookbook. Sodium ascorbate is way cooler. It neutralizes the enzymes that cause browning in apples, pears, potatoes, etc.Both can be created in a pinch by mixing lemon juice and baking soda. For a fun experiment, mix 2 TBSP lemon juice and 1 TBSP baking soda with 4 cups of water, and soak apple slices (fully submerged) in the solution for 30 minutes. Those apple slices will never turn brown, even while decomposing.
>>21988066>notice how it's only the continent that is kings of cheeses who complain about fake cheese? Lactose intolerant Asians love the stuff and slop it up!
>>21988848>continent that is kings of cheesesDebatable. Personally, I think India mogs Euro cheese. Friggin' Euro perverts are obsessed with mold and stink.
I don't need tubs of chemicals to replicate slop at home
>>21988853Indians seem to really like fresh cheese as opposed to aged cheese. With their kind of cheese, the fresher the better. If it has any strong flavor, that means it tastes off.
>>21988887Indians also like eating cow shit
>>21988889oh man i just got banned from /int/ dude dont get me started about indians im trying to talk about food now ok
>>21987991>melt cheese>mix in something else>it's somehow not cheese anymoreyeah keep seething buddy
>>21988840Sodium ascorbate is made by reacting ascorbic acid with sodium bicarbonate. Lemon juice contains little to no ascorbic acid.
>>21988309based autistic faggotry
>>21988889Cow poop is folk medicine no one likes eating it
>>21988960Point me to any American/European country that eats shit, even in a folk-medicine or religious/traditional sense.
>>21988969Just because you guys stopped folk medicine entirely by the late 1800s doesn't mean you never ate animal poopooDog feces with bone poweder for toothache and tonsilitis (UK and France)Cow dung to treat inflammation and swelling (Germany and eastern Europe)
>>21988927>Lemon juice contains little to no ascorbic acid.You're saying that lemons contain little to no Vitamin C?
how cum all of these food science recipes use sodium citrate but the actual goyslop label says sodium phosphate? won't the citrate make it taste lemony?
>>21989731Citric acid and citrate are in terms of properties as close as chlorine and chloride.Citrate tastes tart and kinda soapy.
>>21988353The strongest chemist of today vs the strongest shitpost in history
>>21989812sodium citrate doesn't taste soapy at all, it's slightly tangy and salty
>>21989309My comment was misleading, lemon juice is a poor source of ascorbic acid for making sodium ascorbate. The high volume of sodium citrate would make separation difficult.