why isn't there just a simple guide that says "eat this this and this and you'll be nutritioned" or if there is a guide it's always for fucking richoids why does god hate us?
>>21988470yeah you eat what you can or want, and you stop when you're full. ideally with some mixture of meat, grain, fruit and vegetables.
>>21988470Schooling has really fucked a lot of us over and many people think that theres always a nice simple answer for every question n you can always just open a book and go aha thats how we do itUnfortunately thats not how life works. The sooner 1 realizes that the better.
>>21988470It’s easy just eat a sandwich, piece of fruit, and multivitamin for lunch. Meat, carb, and a vegetable for dinner. Wake up with a glass of OJ and whatever else you feel like eating to get going
>>21988470All you need to know about nutrition is if you’re gonna eat a bunch of carbs don’t eat too much fat and if you’re gonna eat a bunch of fat, don’t eat too much carbsAvoid process bullshit and try and get your stuff as close to Farm to table as you can, although that’s definitely a rich privilegeLack energy eat more carbs or fat Lack muscle eat more protein as you work out Also It’s good to eat veggies so do that but like you don’t need obsess over it unless you got issues that need to be addressed like a specific vitamin deficiency or fiber issues or somethingor if you’re gonna be like turbo autistic with min maxing meal plans on top of stuff like using peptides and other enhancements such as roids but if if you’re in that game, you’re gonna figure the stuff out on your own It’s crazy how esoteric this knowledge is and how much bullshit surrounds it
>>21988494To add to this most peoples energy problems come from lack of exercise and caffeine addictionsAnd improving exercise regimen is vastly more important than diet for most people
I'm tired of poorfags shitting up /ck/.
>>21988470take a seat, bud. I'm about to blow your mind
>>21988505your time is coming, richoid freak, and your money won't save you.
>>21988508And what are you bums going to do about it?
>>21988494Listen to this anon. I have fucked around heavily with my diet and found that 3 things matter.>Protien is your goalEat as much as your wallet allows. You cannot store it, so get as much as you can how you can. Animal protien digests easier than plant, but plant still works fine.>Fat OR carbs to satiate.Pick one. Carbs are sugar. You will store this as fat. if you burn it during your normal routine, then this is fine. Fat is fat. You will burn this too. I prefer lower carbs, but my brother does more carbs and almost no fat. We both are healthy weights.>Veggies/fruit for specific nutrientsFiber, nutrients, all that micro jazz. Not AS important, but still important. I find I get sick less and have more energy when I eat more veggies and fruits that are high in iron because I tend to have lower iron. What anon says matters a lot. Learn what YOU need.
>>21988483fpbp>>21988484Imagine being this dumb
>>21988507Ah yes the obesity pyramid
>>21988567>can't follow directionsyes, low IQ is a leading cause of obesity. as is poor impulse control. from your post I can tell you have both.
My nutrition professor in college said on the first day that nutrition as a science is bullshit because the popular opinions are always changing and nothing is definitive. Like how eggs are good for you then they're bad and then they're good and then they're bad again. Eggs are just eggs and you can take them or leave them. Getting all autistic about nutrition is a fool's errand. Just try to eat a balanced diet and avoid obvious garbage.
>>21988470Just eat whole, fresh foods and avoid processed junk and you'll be fine. You don't need to minmax nutrition. It's not really that hard.
>>21988570Yeah, it's like that scene in Big Bang Theory Mary Cooper: The trick to pancakes is bacon grease. I cook everything in it.Leonard: Everything? Aren't you worried about your health?Mary Cooper: Oh, doctors are always changing their minds. One week bacon grease is bad for you. The next week we're not getting enough of it.>>21988507Nutritional scientists originally designed a different graphic, but since corpo fucks in the food industries representing dairy, wheat, and corn successfully lobbied the USDA to alter the recommendations to promote their products the pyramid of 1992 was fucked up. For example, dairy was given its own prominent section (2-3 servings a day), even though dairy isn't strictly necessary for a healthy diet if you get calcium and vitamin D elsewhere.Also the Pyramid gives zero change for different types of carbs or fat types.
>>21988483Why grain? For what nutritional benefit? It doesn't do anything the others (aka real food) don't.Grain is for feeding large amounts of people in a small area, not for optimal health or nutrition. It's only superior to outright starvation.
>>21988491>Wake up with a glass of OJMay as well just drink soda lmao fruit juice is not healthy at all. It's really a shame how people are always giving the sugar popcorn water to kids thinking it's good for them
>>21988470because the nutritional information is available for most foods, you just gotta familiarize yourself with what most types of ingredients provide and how much youre supposed to get, but its unreasonable to ask you to do that so use a diet planner thing to help, you can add recipes so itll show the macro and micro nutrients of what youre makinggenerally just make sure youre getting what you need over the week in regards to micronutrients and daily in regards to macrosit takes some work 2 get started but its pretty useful and you wont ever worry about if youre getting enough of x or too much of y because youll just know
>>21988628fiber
>>21988470Just eat what you want retard. He needs and (((official))) guid from the (((experts)))
>>21988626this nigga quotin big bang theory
>>21988470Fewer ingredients, less bullshit. Grain worth a damn wouldn't need 'fortifying'. You didn't evolve to have these Omega-6 laden processed Vegetable Oils bioavailable in refined forms, which accrues toward obesity, bad cholesterol, chronic inflammation, fatty liver, and gall stones. Shit imported out of season from developing countries are probably using psychotic amounts of pesticide and cheap - heavy metal infused - Chinese fertilizer. And Food Pyramid Boomers had everything to know better and made it not their problem, but yours. Don't take nutritional info from anyone over 58.
>>21988483Fippy
>>21988505Tick tock rich cuck
>>21988626>For example, dairy was given its own prominent section (2-3 servings a day), even though dairy isn't strictly necessary for a healthy diet if you get calcium and vitamin D elsewhere.Yeah but most people treated dairy as its own thing and were probably eating it in that amount. It would be strange to not include dairy in a country that regularly consumed dairy already.I still say people focus way more on the food pyramid now than they ever did when it was current. Nobody I knew actually cared about it or tried to follow it. It tells you to limit refined fat and sugar but obviously most people weren't doing that so I don't know how it can be blamed for anything else.
This thread belongs on /r9k/ or something. What an embarrassing thing to post on the food a cooking board.
>>21988782>You didn't evolve to have these Omega-6 laden processed Vegetable Oils bioavailable in refined forms, which accrues toward obesity, bad cholesterol, chronic inflammation, fatty liver, and gall stones.Omega 6 is an essential fatty acid so it has health benefits. I think the main issue is just that refined oil is very high in calories but it's also less satiating than whole foods so it leads to overeating. People eating nuts and seeds more instead of refined oil don't have the same issues even they have omega 6 or compared to low omega 6 refined oils.
>>21988837youre supposed to get a lot more omega 3s i think, getting as many omega 6s as people do without balancing it prolly causes chronic inflammation, but youre not supposed to get none either, if its like at or close to 1:1 i dont think there would be any issues
>>21988470>how the fuck are you supposed to know what to eat?I'm sorry you are suffering from developmental disorder and schizophrenia. This isn't the place you should be asking for advice.
>>21988628Weak bait is weak
>>21988749Not that guy but with few exceptions, I only eat refined grain. I get most of my fiber from produce.>>21988470Generally speaking, so long as you didn't have dietary needs outside the average?Mostly produce. Some meat and eggs and beans. Some dairy. Little grain. Very little added fat sugar. Women should actually eat more red meat than men or just have blood or liver from time to time because their diets tend to be lower in iron and they're more prone to anaemia. Men should eat more leafy greens than women because we tend to have lower vitamin and fiber content in our diets.>>21988507Remove the grain section, divide the dairy section in half, adding the meat section to the other half and create a new grain section where meat once was and that's pretty much my diet. Produce is by far the largest portion of my diet by weight. I eat close to a kilo of veg daily
Why's everyone scared of grains on this website?
>>21988935Grains and spices are for poor people. Ignoring the fact that I am also poor and rich people and kings eat grains and spices, they're just not the easiest things to cram up my ass.
>>21988470Just eat zero ultraprocessed ingredients. Only whole foods and foods made from simple ingredients.
https://realfood.gov/
>>21988942fair enough
>>21988632Orange juice is definitely healthy and not comparable to having a glass of soda. You’re not fit to be sharing dietary advice
>>21988749Vegetables and such have way more fiber that your body can actually use.>>21988916It's not bait at all, grass eater. The primary value of grains is as cheap, empty calories. That's pretty much it. They're good for eating when you have nothing better, but that's it.
>>21988980Add some vitamin C to the soda and it's basically the same thing. Stop believing what the commercials told you and actually look at it. Imagining thinking that downing a glass of sugar for breakfast every morning is healthy holy shit people are ignorant to basic nutrition I bet your teeth are fucked up and you snore, am I wrong?
>>21988988Orange juice is 41 calories and 8.4 grams of natural sugar per 100ml. Orange soda is 58 calories and 14.5 grams of added sugars per 100ml.Orange juice has 45 mg of vitamin C, 200 mg of potassium, 21 mcg B9 (AKA folate), 11 mg magnesium, 11 mg calcium, 17mg phosphorus and lmao amounts of iron (like, 0.4g or some shit) per 100ml.Orange soda has 22.3mg of sodium per 100ml and negligible amounts of anything else. Even vitamin C, in the form of ascorbic (IE a preservative) and citric acids is less than 1mg. Great source of E110/Yellow № 6/Sunset Yellow FCF, though! So, y'know… more or less identical to orange juice. You fucking clown.
>>21988470>how the fuck are you supposed to know what to eat?instinct.do you lack it?better thank jesus christ for opening the way to reconciliation so that you may not just survive but thrive in the modern world, considering you lack instinct.before the sacrifice your ass woulda died due to the stupidity of you and the lack of compassion in others.
>not a single useful answerpathetic
Your body tells you, OP. You will feel like shit if you eat something you shouldn't. Even junk food that tastes good and feels good to eat will cause other problems like constipation or gas.
>>21988945>just eat whole foods lmaothat's not an answer. if I ate nothing but chickpeas every day I would technically be fulfilling that requirement but would die from malnutrition. so you're completely full of shit, just like every other smug dimwit in this thread.
>>21988470Stop eating to bewilder your tastebuds and indulge your preferences, first of all.
>>21988947this. TDS faggots refuse to listen to anything the gov says these 4 years but the revision of the food permed is unabashedly based. eat more real food t
>>21989022>natural sugar vs added sugarIf you want to be healthy, eat an actual orange dumbass. Orange soda is actually satiating due to the carbonation so in the big picture you would probably be better off drinking orange soda since the orange juice will just leave you feeling more hungry and worse than you would be if you didn't drink it.
>>21989235>whole foods>plural>WELL IF I EAT JUST ONE THING THEN IT WON'T BE GOODanon pls
>>21988507>Fats and oils bad>Cheese good
>>21988507https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIGXkh6S8Zwflip it
>>21989290cheese is more similar to fatty meat and eggs than refined oil. probably still better off just drinking milk unless you're lactose intolerant though.
>>21988626>like that scene in Big Bang Theoryfaggot
>>21989282Oh you poor dear. Looks like you need it repeated for you.I'll help: Orange juice is 41 calories and 8.4 grams of natural sugar per 100ml. Orange soda is 58 calories and 14.5 grams of added sugars per 100ml.Orange juice has 45 mg of vitamin C, 200 mg of potassium, 21 mcg B9 (AKA folate), 11 mg magnesium, 11 mg calcium, 17mg phosphorus and lmao amounts of iron (like, 0.4g or some shit) per 100ml.Orange soda has 22.3mg of sodium per 100ml and negligible amounts of anything else. Even vitamin C, in the form of ascorbic (IE a preservative) and citric acids is less than 1mg. Great source of E110/Yellow № 6/Sunset Yellow FCF, though! So, y'know… more or less identical to orange juice. And no, orange juice doesn't make anyone feel "more hungry and worse". And having juice doesn't mean you're not having fruit. You've no point to you besides that one on your skull, you pinhead.
>>21989278>Stop eating to bewilder your tastebuds and indulge your preferences, first of allFuck you. You can eat healthy and "bewilder" your tastebuds it just takes a little effort and attention rather than grabbing a sloptreat from the shelf.
>>21989278how dare you judge me. you have no idea what I eat.
>>21989281if you listen to any government in the year of our Lord 2026 you're hopeless
>>21989288OKAY FINE I'LL CHICKPEAS AND GARBANZO BEANSYOU FUCKING HAPPY NOW???
>>21988470Rub a small amount on your arm. If it doesn't cause irritation after a few hours, taste a small amount in a tea. If you're still fine later you can eat it.
>>21989441finally a serious answer
>>21989439>I'LL CHICKPEASYOU'LL CHICKPEAS
>>21989451A WOMAN WILL PEE ON MEWHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND
>>21988632NTA but I feel really good waking up to a soda in the morning compared to orange juice.
>>21989485the sugar in soda might be more easily absorbed. a lot of people get upset stomachs from fruit juice but not as much as soda. or you're drinking caffeinated soda.
>>21989504orange juice makes me more thirsty than soda.
>>21989506that can happen if you're not digesting the sugar properly. or it could be all the acidity or a mild sensitivity.
>>21989485for me it's a hit of crystal
>>21989530what flavor
>>21989540
>>21988626>dairy isn't necessaryMilk and Potatoes are all you need to survive and part of why white people have such a huge advantage.
>>21989640I'm white but lactose intolerant
>>21989646I'm white but starch intolerant
>>21988470Hello my friends, here is a simple recipe for egg drop soup:Ingredients:1 duck egg5 eggs3 scallions, sliced1 carrot, julienned1 green bell pepper, julienned3 cups chicken broth1/2 cup soy sauce1/2 teaspoon sesame oil1 teaspoon ginger1/2 teaspoon garlicDirections:1. Put the duck egg in a pan with a little water and simmer it for 30 minutes.2. Drain the water and cool the duck egg.3. Put the 5 eggs in a pot of boiling water for 5 minutes.4. Peel the eggs and set aside.5. Put the 3 cups chicken broth in a pot and bring it to a boil.6. Add the soy sauce, sesame oil, ginger, and garlic.7. Put the chicken broth in a blender and blend it.8. Add the blended chicken broth to the boiling chicken broth.9. Add the duck egg to the boiling chicken broth and let it cook for another 5 minutes.10. Add the sliced scallions, carrot, and bell pepper.11. Put the egg yolks in a bowl and set it aside.12. Put the egg whites in a clean bowl.13. Put the bowl with the egg yolks and the bowl with the egg whites in a blender and blend them for 30 seconds.14. Put the blended egg yolks in a bowl.15. Put the blended egg whites in a bowl and refrigerate it.16. Serve the egg drop soup with rice.Enjoy it.Sharing is caring!
>>21989673nigga who the fuck eats duck eggs like nigga wtf u talking bout nigga u trippin u goofy ass nigga
>>21989424If you have a healthy diet, whether your glass of sugar water has an 'lmao amount of iron' or not literally doesn't matter. >orange juice doesn't make anyone feel "more hungry and worse".What? Are you too sheltered to have ever talked to someone with a bad metabolism before?