Is cherokee purple the best tasting tomato? I want to try growing tomatoes after listening to you cu/ck/s rave about homegrown tomatoes for years.
>>22003787They are great but I have never had much production from them they don't like my hot arid climate, brandywines and other beefsteaks produce a lot better. I recommend Early Girls, they are hard to fuck up and grow like weeds.
>>22003787Don't grow cherokee purple if you are new to gardening, they require a lot of attention and are what autistic gardeners grow.
>>22003787>Is cherokee purple the best tasting tomato? I want to try growing tomatoes after listening to you cu/ck/s rave about homegrown tomatoes for years.The best tasting tomatoes IIRC are the Garden Gem & Garden Treasure cultivars developed by a selective cross-breeding and taste-test survey program run by the University of Florida run by Dr. Harry Khee which you can get seeds of if you donate to them or buy direct:https://hos.ifas.ufl.edu/kleelab/new-garden-cultivars/https://provenwinnersdirect.com/products/seeds-tempting-tomatoes-garden-gem-lycopersiconhttps://www.provenwinners.com/plants/solanum/tempting-tomatoes-garden-gem-solanum-lycopersicumhttps://masterofphotons.com/tomatoes-from-the-university-of-florida-klee-labs/
>>22003787those that bless the tomato will be blessed
>>22003802>$8.50 for seedsFuck off.
For me it's Sungolds (sweet yellow cherry tomato that is easy to grow and delicious)
>>22003787If their tomaters were so good why did they lose all their wars, and prime development lands and are living destitute in their casinos?
>>22003803based
>>22003787Tomato growing went from a hobby to a cult lmao.
>>22003809OP asked for the best tasting, not the best value and Science obliged. What's the best tasting slicer tomato variety that I can order seeds at a reasonable price if I'm a beginner gardener?
>>22003817Roma and Early Girl, you don't have to worry about pruning them and they produce more than you can eat and are great for saucing and canning late in the season.
>>22003787Black Krim, the uglier the tomato the better tasting.
>>22003816Well, when peple try a good homegrown tomato compared to a store bought gross tomato, it's a pretty drastic difference and makes you realize what you have been missing
>>22003818>Early Girlhttps://www.southernliving.com/early-girl-tomato-7550728Looks good.https://www.burpee.com/vegetables/tomatoes/slicer-tomatoes/?es_is_in_stock=1And HOLY FUCK there's a lot of different types.
>>22003830Tens of thousands of varieties. Go with early girls because you will get satisfying results your first time growing. Try a few varieties if you have the space. Also use epsom salt.
>>22003848Also get a vibrating toothbrush and vibrate the flowers to get them to self pollenate.
>>22003848>>22003853Is there a good reference article/video how-to for beginners I should bookmark (hopefully for Southern growers as I understand, many of them hate high summer heat/humidity)?>>22003820Reading more apparently Cherokee Purple used to be Hot Shit for Home Gardening but as they got popular the genetics of the seeds got corrupted by every supplier jumping on the band wagon so getting true Purples requires more careful source now and Black Krim is suggested as an alternative?https://old.reddit.com/r/tomatoes/comments/1mf293p/cherokee_purple_was_beautiful_but_underwhelming/n
>>22003866Millennial Gardener on youtube
>>22003866Burpee Cherokee Purple
>>22003869>>22003871Thank you.
>>22003803
>>22003869>Millennial Gardener on youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fWQiLVMH7EHe recommends Brandy Boy Hybrid as you-can't-fuck-this-up slicer option.>>22003871I've still reading about this and apparently Cherokee Purples taste great but are a bitch to grow and there's a Hyrbid called Cherokee Carbon that's hardier and produces better?https://old.reddit.com/r/tomatoes/comments/1creu5g/cherokee_purple_vs_cherokee_carbon/Trying to make a short list right now.
I'm a root boy, I grow onions, garlic and potatoes.
>>22003887What kind of climate? Find your growing zone and look for varieties that are suited for it. It's a little late for planting seeds, you are better off picking up some seedlings from a box store or a green house. I started my seeds indoors back in march.
>>22003891>What kind of climate? https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/Apparently Zone 8B, will check for appropriate types of it to start early next year. > It's a little late for planting seeds, you are better off picking up some seedlings from a box store or a green house. I started my seeds indoors back in march.Okay.
>>22003899Yeah you are in the south so you are gonna want disease resistant plants because of the humidity and bugs. Plant some basil seeds next to your tomatoes to keep the bigs away from your tomato plants.
>>22003787Welcome green thumb, you are about to embark on a highly satisfying journey.
>>22003901I pick up a couple packets of marigold seeds from the dollar store and litter them around my tomato plants trying to attract bees and mantis.
>>22003905try lavender, it's what the Romans used.
>>22003905If I get an aphid infestation I will go catch a bunch of ladybugs and dump them in my garden. I wish I could get a mantis but ladybugs will destroy aphids in a single day.
>>22003787Brandywine and Cherokee purple are both excellent. Try a couple variates and next year grow what you like best and try something else. Heirlooms can be picky and produce less. Hybrids and regular big box store varieties are very easy.>>22003803Bless you, tomato
>>22003866https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9seQurhbLPMDon't get overwhelmed once tomatoes get established they grow like weeds.
>>22003937Yeah Cherokee Carbon
>>22003787>>22003937Ginfiz, Cherokee purple, Sakura, Brandywine pink, and Abigail are all going in the ground today. Started them from seed about 2 months ago. 10 plants this year. Good luck tomatochads.I had some septoria leaf spot for the first time last year but this year I am ready.
>>22003940gonna try those next year, will have to order the seeds.
>>22003901Blight is your biggest enemy in high humidity climates, make sure to remove the leaves closest to the ground.
Is it time? I need to get my ass motivated.
>>22003787They are delicious but don't produce well for me, pink brandywines are always in my garden. Doing black krim, big beef boys, san marzano, and sungold cherry tomatoes.
>>22003787Tomatoes depend heavily on their surroundings. Even if you're novices, you've heard the name San Marzano before. Those are among the best tasting tomatoes, but only if you grow them on volcanic soil near a sea in particular microclimates.>>22003817You're a beginner, just start. That's by far the most important issue. Roma is the industry standard. It's one of the worst tomatoes out there but it's cheap and easy. Get your soil right year after year, find good garden centres, keep the pests under control, find other people who are passionate about tomatoes. Even with a Roma you should get far better tomatoes in your first year.>>22003787The best tasting tomatoes are called "ancienne" tomatoes, they were grown as ornamental plants in France, back when people thought they were poisonous in the 1700s. There are a few dozen varieties. They look great and their flavour is phenomenal, but they have serious disadvantages: they rot easily, are prone to diseases, don't transport well and they're almost impossible to find outside France, Italy and Belgium. It's a hobby-turned-profession kind of thing where 4chan-level autists make a living selling tomatoes to Michelin chefs.
>>22003787Ive been growing and seed saving the same tomato my grandma grew during the great depression, no idea what it is just that it grows and produces too many delicious maters than I can eat. They fill up all of my jars and I just end up leaving them to rot. I don't really need to save seeds because they come back every year and I have to thin them out. Shit I don't even start seeds indoors anymore because they just naturally grow and catch up to my starters in a couple of weeks. I'll post some picks of them when I get some ripe fruits.
>>22003973San Marzanos are an overrated meme, I make delicious sauces with brandywines that blow them the fuck out. They are just Italian marketing. Also I hate basil.
>>22004018Basil and tomatoes go hand in hand, basil is pest control for tomato plants.
>>22004018Italians were the first tomato autists, your tomatoes are because of italians cross breeding them for hundreds of years and bringing them over when they immigrated. They were once a poisonous nightshade plant used for assassinations.
Literally no excuse to not have a garden, no it is not expensive. Yeah there is some labor required but is fulfilling when you get to harvest the bounty.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEklHSeji-M
>>22004053that bitch started breathing heavily when she started harvesting the zuccini 80
>>22003887>>22003938>>22004053RIP my youtube algorithm lol
>>22003787describe what a 'real' tomato tastes like.
>>22003869based and informationally dense.
>>22003888This, can someone tell me how to grow potatoes in a bucket? I don't really eat many veggies other than potaotes, onions, and garlic
>>22004215Yeah, I didnt like him because he looks like a retard wigger with the flat bill hat, but he knows his shit.
>>22004229I got into gardening from trying to grow weed when I was a teenager. Tending to plants to help them grow is very rewarding and good for the soul and they thank you for it by giving you food.
>>22003787Never tried tomatos, I grow hot peppers and herbs. I think I will try tomatoes now because this thread convinced me that it is worthwhile. Looking forward to home grown salsa.
>>22004233Our god given job is to tend to the land and be stewards to the bountiful nature around us. :)
>>22004093lol I live in a building in the middle of a city without a patio but watching these videos is comforting, wish I could grow some veggies now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij5QLKwuZhQ&
>>22004093I use incognito mode and stay logged out when clicking any YT links specifically so my algorithm stays pure and my feed doesn't miscegenate with lesser content.
>>22004221Buy a seed potato, cut each eye into its own 5cm cube put them on some soil in a bucket and top with more soil (make sure the bucket has drainage) then water every now and then and give it occasional feeding. That's it. Potato tends to be piss easy.
>>22004262lol this amazing
>>22003787The bigger the tomato, the shittier it tastes. Or rather, the bigger it is, the more it just tastes like water.I grow cherry tomatoes for eating them as they are, and San Marzanos for cooking.
>>22003811Injuns didn't really eat tomatoes. They only became edible after being cultivated in Europe.
>>22004317incorrect and you are fucking retarded.
>>22004320Fuck off, faggot. You've never had a good tomato in your life.
>>22004322Ive grown them for 20 years and I am also a big hulking shit kicker that would tear you up like a piece of dog meat.
Ur way too late in the season to start seeds
>>22004339Not /way/ too late. It's just a month or so behind. Remember, in zones 4-8, conventional wisdom is to transplant tomato after Mother's Day, which implies starting seeds ~5-6 weeks before then. If you start from seed more, you'll still get a decent harvest most of the season, you'll just have a lot of greens at the end. That can be a good thing if you like green tomatoes.
>>22004329You sound more like a shit eater, faggot.
>>22004345Im in zone 5 and seeds catch up to my two month old seedlings by the end of june. If it's warm enough and they get plenty of water they grow like weeds.
>>22004347I respect fellow green thumbs, but you aren't allowed to condesend as everyones growing situation and climate are different. I am a big friendly guy most of the time because I am the biggest meanest mother fucker around.
>>22004349I live in the northern ass end of Europe, with a growing season of about three seconds, unless you have a greenhouse. Well, some stuff grows, and a lot of it is very tasty thanks to the climate and how slowly it grows (plums, berries, apples, etc), but almost nothing you can grow in the Med region will grow here, again, if you don't have a greenhouse.I do though.
>>22004349I love you giant wolves, saved my ass from a horrible ass beating several times.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzYf6qskdfA
>>22004349As for the variety of tomatoes I've grown, this is the best picture I could find. Unfortunately, it was taken in October last year, after the end of the growing season, so not everything was ripe, but it had to be picked before the mold set in.
>>22004366Make friends with your local BFG
>>22004367Those are interesting looking maters bud, I'd like to try them.
>>22004221Fill bucket with dirtPut potato in dirtDirt fills with potatoes It's potatoes, you have to be Irish Stupid to fuck up growing potatoes.
>>22004371Growing tomatoes in the greenhouse and muh body in the basement. Hell if I can grow a fucking peak on my biceps though.
>>22004388Grow up tossing hay bails and get strong legs and back so you can wrestle cattle in the fall.
>>22003787for gods sake don't over water your tomatoes.
>>22003787Cherokee purple Cherokee prideSo proud to giveSo proud to knive
>>22004409I lift and hike more or less daily, and work a full day out at my brother's farm at least once a week. Hell, I spent half a year restoring his 19th century barn with my father back in 2022/2023. Found some crap from 1893 in there, along with some wooden shoes and hundred year old furniture, and dug out an entire floor full of sheep shit that had been building up since before the war, and that was supporting the roof. Also, my brother's neighbor has a herd of Angus, and I've seen how they make hay bails. You're not tossing around those gigantic plastic wrapped piles of crap.
>>22004388>roidtrannyyikes!
>>22004426I am dating a commache lol
>>22004431I'm not roiding, faggot. But thanks, I suppose.
>>22004428You sound like a fella, get gud at billiards and we can hang out and smash the smol tough guys when they step out of line.l and pick fights with the meek.
>>22004436my bar needs one of you guys, it's just out of state oilfield trash fucking with the locals
>>22004443I am oilfield trash and I am not your buddy, I'm the giant swinging dick that all women get wet over. If you get out of line I will discipline you, if you go and get a gun I will gut you when you walk back in, and I will call the police to come and arrest your dumbass.
>>22004436Funny you should mention that. I'm not very good at billiards, but my brother is. When his neighbor moved, my brother bought his old pool table, and of course I was the one who had to carry it down to my brother's place.
>>22004443>yuro has a pool tableStrait eight causes a lot of bar fights, do you know Valley rules?
>>22004455I prefer straight 8-ball but people can't control themselves when they get schooled, valley rules were made to end the violence that resulted when a retard got embarrased without ever getting to shootm
>>22004450cringe larp Tbh
>>22004462Straight 8 was poker, best out of ten with increasing bets each game, and when the retard that kept betting didn't pay you beat the shit out of him. I respect the biker culture, it's raw fairness.
>>22004463>he thinks people that work in the oilfield don't really exist.Man you are a fucking silly faggot. Now post the dude that says if you don't work 80 hours don't blah to him
>>22004463Working oilfield is basically military with a bunch of ex-convicts. Mean and dirty people that have to learn to get along together. Which never goes well because everyone has gigantic balls
>>22004455I assume you meant to reply to me. But no, I don't know valley rules.Playing pool is extremely common here and a lot of bars have a pool table or two. I never really got into it though. I do have a facial scar that is tangentially related to playing pool though, and also related to your concept of protecting the meek. It was mostly just my idiot buddy trying to pick up an ugly chick who happened to be with her boyfriend though.As for being a yuro, I also have a bullet smoker and made beef jerky today.This is a picture of it from two months back, when I also made jerky. Gotta love smoking in the snow.
>>22004473>>he thinks people that work in the oilfield don't really exist.never said that? you're still larping
>>22004484valley rules is basically ball in hand when you scratch and you have to call your combos and pockets. Makes hiding the ball a stupid strategy against good players.
>>22004486It's my entire life, if it's a larp I wish for something that doesn't take up my time 6 days a week and 18 hours.
I finally got 12 hours off just for a green boys to fuck up a rod replacement on a 40 year old well, had to drive 200 miles at 2 am just to tell them how to unscrew a and replace a fucking pipe with a goddamn pipe wrench.
>>22004493You don't have to feel sorry for me. I WAS BALLS DEEP IN MY FUCKING WOMAN. She probably fucked the kid nextdoor
>>22004499Try working on one of these instead. It pays better, you get good food, and the people are generally quite friendly. Took this from my boat back in 2020.
>>22004505They want young kids, not hard assholes like me that scare the shit out of non-hackers. It's a hard job and carrying others slack gets on you. I made great money though.
Eh brothers this is /ck/ and the topic is growing delicious tomatoes.
>>22004506My bad, got lost into the conversation with actual people.
>>22004509A grilled a sweet potato and some bell peppers today, and made a racist caricature. Does that count?
>>22004512Counts for me lmao
>>22004512XD
Well, last one from me. Off to bed.
Just kidding. This is the last one.
Wew, this got really gay with all this oilfield valley gay shit. So fucking gay
>>22004529How do dodge the press gangs?
>>22003816He who is not with me is against me
>>22003928Ladybugs are even better than mantises. A mantis is an absolute monster, but once it gets past its first few weeks of life, aphids are too small for it to bother killing, and it may actually become counterproductive, lurking near the aphids and killing other bugs that have come to hunt the aphids. An adult mantis is only really helpful if you've got big pests like garden beetles, grasshoppers, and caterpillars.
>>22003787Am I too late to the party? I wanna grow some tomatoes
>>22004544Yeah kind of, if you are in the cold zones you have a couple weeks to plant established seedlings, if you are in the south you should have planted in march.
>>22004547They already have ripe tomatos in Florida.
>>22004547Bullshit, Ive grown these fuckers before you were even born. People with money hate you and you should kill them if you had any fucking brains.
>>22004345>That can be a good thing if you like green tomatoes.Fried Green Tomatoes. Problam solved!
>>22004367Hey what's the miniature pumpkin doing hiding in your bag of 'maters?
I want to grow tomatoes in my living room. can I put dirt in a fish tank with grow lights at the top?
>>22003787>cherokee purpleAs opposed to Sioux purple.
>>22004890The soil needs to drain.Use an old yoghurt container or similar, poke holes in the bottom.
>>22004877Some people do not like fried green tomatoes. Those people are wrong.
how do I get rid of bind weed?
>>22004881That's just a striped tomato. Probably a green zebra. I've never grown pumpkins before, but my brother did a few years back.
>>22005299>That's just a striped tomato. Probably a green zebra.Wicked.
>>22003803Blessed tomato.
>>22005039what about hydroponics? or does that require too much expensive stuff?
>>22003869Trying to learn about growing tomatoes from this thread:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR1S3hPZEps>Fully vine-ripening tomatoes doesn't do anything more than just picking them 30-50% way mature (orange?) and then leaving on the kitchen counter to get to 100%>It actually causes crop loss due to extra exposure to insects/weatherWHAT THE HELL? MY LIFE IS A LIE.On the bright side this will make knowing when to harvest much less stressful since I don't have to play the same waiting game of ripening-edging blackjack with them that I do grocery store avocados to get close to ideal without busting.
>>22004890probably not they like direct sunlight.
>>22003803Based tomat
>>22003803Blessed be the nightshade
>>22003787hard to dislike a good tomato. impossible even
>>22006311>>Fully vine-ripening tomatoes doesn't do anything more than just picking them 30-50% way mature (orange?) and then leaving on the kitchen counter to get to 100%is this true?
>>22007180The explanation is once they reach the "breaker stage" where the color starts to turn at the blossom end they are already considered "vine ripe" and a semi-permeable layer of plant cells called a abscission layer has formed a wall between the mother stem and the child fruit through which no further nourishment other than water if the plant is inundated can pass which cuts off the tomato's maturation cycle from the vine. The rest of the tomato's sugars and acid/glutamate production is entirely self-propagated inside it's skin so further vine-ripening is a placebo that leave the fruits in the elements (threatening cracking, diseases exposure) being more accessible and tantalizing targets for insects/varmints the getting redder it gets. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/mages-of-tomatoes-illustrating-the-abscission-zones-in-tomatoes-A-variety-of-cultivars_fig1_329982740https://extension.psu.edu/is-this-tomato-ready-to-harvest
>>22004377I tried growing potatoes several times. I live in a desert. the plants start great in february. the moment the temps got in to the 90's they all died around may.
>>22004543the last couple of times I bought ladybugs I brought them home, opened the bag to put them on the effected plants and every god damn one of them flew away immediately.
>>22003787Grew Cheroke Purples last yearThey were okay I guessPerhaps I’m more into Soce TomatersOnly doing San Marzanos this Year
It's a shame that the millenial gardener is using all these gay and AIDS youtube marketing tricks, it seems the videos contain good information judging from the 'ripening tomatoes' vid.The thumbnails and video titles are absolutely horrible.
>>22007266I can’t listen to him talkCan’t stand the way he enunciatesSounds like a robot
