Red pill me on bread makers. Are they a meme? Is it worth splurging for a zojirushi machine?
>>22004904Waste of money. Maybe if you don't have an oven they might be useful, but I have an oven, and that's what I use
>>22004907The appeal is that it makes the dough and cooks the bread where I don’t have to do anything. I can’t just put the ingredients into an oven and make bread.
>>22004904They're a pretty good convenience machine. Just put your ingredients in, press a button, and come back a couple hours later to fresh bread. Now, making bread yourself isn't *that* hard and it will probably turn out better after some practice, but if you just want the convenience of fresh bread without doing any work, and you want it regularly, then it's worthwhile.
>add dry ingredients to bowl>mix>add wet ingredients to same bowl>mix>cover and wait for rise if using yeast (in fridge or on counter)>preheat oven>butter baking form>dump dough in form and cover>bakeMaking bread is barely more intensive than scrambling eggs. I can't imagine sacrificing space and spending money on a single use tool to make the permanently same shape of bread with a tiny margin of convenience.
>>22004904Only really worth buying one if it comes with special programs, like rice flour bread, or gluten free, or no yeast. Unfortunately, the ones with special programs are much more expensive than your basic chinesium machine.
>>22004986The problem is you can't make anything more advanced than basic sandwich bread. I guess if you eat a lot of that, it might be worth it.
>>22004904Fine for kneading if you hate making a mess with flour and all but terrible for baking.
>check youtube for zojirushi bread machine videos>open one>man with beardick
>>22005019You can time them so you put in the dough in the evening and wake up to freshly baked bread.
>>22005290>man with bear dick
>>22005292They ever make ovens with a timed start?
>>22004904I bought a dough mixer/proofer. But I still take the dough out and bake it in a pan.It's worth it.
>>22005363Yes
>>22005380Great, thanks. Now I know what to ask Santa for this year.
They can be useful if gas and propane are expensive in your area and your oven isn't electric. Gas is the undisputed way to cook, but it's not the most economical anymore.
>>22005231if you cant see why your method is much more effort than a bread machine you might have actual mental retardation.
>>22004907>>22005231I guess all of Asia is stupid for having automatic rice cookers instead of manually and oh-so-easily cooking all of their rice.
>>22005467The extra effort:>mix dry ingredients (5 seconds)>mix wet ingredients (60 seconds)
>>22004904I have this exact pictured one and i actually hate it. It could be useful I guess for mixing and kneading dough? But every time I let it actually make the bread it comes out like dogshit. I followed multiple of the recipes and none of them tasted like anything but dirt. Plus their recipe for "sourdough" is just bread with lemon juice, rofl. Stick to making your own bread, it's more effort but like most things in life it's worth it, I make far better bread than this piece of shit and im no master baker
>>22005478Uh, yes? I cook perfect rice on the stove with just a pan and eyeballing the ratios. Rice is the easiest thing in the world to cook. Your wondrous, arcane, mystical, scientific, 1000 times folded race of gutter oil chinks don't win this one.
>>22006300>anon thinks he's got things figured out better than billions of Asianslol. lmao even. I bet you even handwash everything too, instead of using a dishwasher. who am I kidding? you don't have anyone who loves you or lives with you, so you don't even generate enough dirty dishes for a dishwasher.
>>22006350Found the Asian Masculinity redditor. My girlfriend is asian btw. You won't believe the shit she says about her fellow "men".
>>22006358>gets BTFO>>uh...y-y-you're just Asian, and a Redditor, or something! I was just pointing out the hilarity in thinking you know better than billions of rice-fed orientals. But then you drop that like it's some flex, lol.
>>22006358i don't believe you have a gf. but enlighten us on what she apparently says.
