>italy amazing at sandwiches>britain is pretty good too>france is shit despite being in the middle of bothwhat gives? all that baguette-eating but they only eat it with butter
>>22016873OP iz, ‘ow you say, le faggot
i know we weren’t the first, but america has the best sandwiches in the world
Isn't the ham and cheese sandwich a French invention?
>take pretty much any kind of bread>slice it down the middle to create a pocket>fill said pocketit's a pretty universal method, don't think Italy or Britain can claim it
>>22016873You've never had a Croquet Mandem?
>>22016923bullshit sandwich for faggots.
>>22016914the British claim is >bake whole loaf>slice it>stick stuff between slices of bread>thus the filing is 'sandwiched'different from a roll or pitta or roti or tortilla or wrap>>22016901Welsh apparently, from the battle of Agincourt, Welsh archers were toasting cheese sandwiches(possible including ham) using their arrows over a fire when the French attacked by surprises and one bloke shot an arrow with the sandwich still on it, it struck him but the molten cheese cauterized the wound(complete bs) but he took that as inspiration for the croque monsieur
>>22016914it's not about claims of invention, it's about making it good
>>22016873it is literally impossible for an entire country to be "good" or "bad" at making sandwiches. it depends ENTIRELY on the specific restaurant or person making the sandwich. the boulangerie I live next to makes excellent sandwiches and I've had fancy sandwiches in Italy and Britain.just because spaniards make the abomination that is a 'bocadillo de tortilla' doesn't mean that they aren't capable of cooking up a mean chivito, for instance (well, chivitos are uruguayan, but they're a common sight in spanish bars and are tasty)
>>22016999>WelshWales is part of Britain, to isolate Wales and treat it as something special is something that the Scots do all the time, even though they are misguided. When it comes to good sandwiches, it all comes down to quality of ingredients, both Italy and Britain has good sandwiches with quality produce but they are not the same as the ingredients differ.French don't make sandwiches as such, they are more of an open sandwich with Pâté and cheese but most importantly the bread, a fresh French baguette cannot be replicated outside of France, for some bizarre reason.
>>22016873>*proves you wrong*
>>22016999They wouldn't waste an arrow you fucking idiot.
>>22018134who said the arrow was wasted?
>>22018120>Treat it as something special even though they are misguidedWelsh only became equal a mere 100 years before slavery ended. And the only reason why was Henry VIII reluctantly honoring his late father's wishes because the Tudors were off welsh descent.Before then under the norman law they had the same worth as africans. Also the sheepshagger meme was because thieves who stole livestock across the boarder would claim they were fucking the sheep they were poaching instead of stealing, because the crime for buggery was a few days under arrest whereas thieving was hanging.So as the doomdsay records were being made, there were a metric ton of fines for sheepfucking across the welsh border.
>>22018183Your making up stories to pretend the Welsh were hard done by, just like the Irish and the Scots do. I know a lot more than you do (or grok/wikipedia) does about this but this isn't the board to discuss it. But the story of a welsh archer firing a cheese and ham sandwich is just BS.Enough.
>>22018181You don't know much about arrows
>thread about france>shitflinging about walesHuh??
>>22018202calling a sandwich welsh undermines the British Volk
>>22018198the veracity of the story itself is certainly doubtful but no, sticking a sandwich onto an arrow and hovering it over a flame in the same manner you would toast a marshmallow for a while would not ruin the arrow. you could just clean it after you're done, the arrow itself wouldn't burn unless you're shoving it directly into the flames (which would burn the sandwich and not be ideal). if you can reuse an arrow after shooting it at a Frenchman, you can reuse it after sticking it in a ham sandwich.
>>22018231The heat would warp the wood and loosen the bindings. Not the same as pulling it out of a Frenchman to reuse. There's no need to be gay about this. Next.
>>22016873Croak masseur is the best fucking sando ever Faggot
>>22018369madame mogs
>>22016877At those prices? Hardly>>22016901>>22016914It's named after the Earl of Sandwich
>>22016873In what universe is britain good at sandwiches?
>>22018559THIS universe NIGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
>>22016914britain has the best claim because it's the first industrial nation. sandwiches are essentially a quick meal for factory workers, and the individual ingredients only become cheap with industrial production. feudal peasants would never dream of using bread on something so extravagant because bread was expensive. once you have industrially produced bread and processed meat the cheap sandwich becomes a natural and essential feature of life.france lagged behind britain in industrial development. italy was dirt poor for the 19th and 20th centuries and had to learn its sandwich culture from its own emigrants. the british invented the sandwich but it was perfected in america
>>22018606>feudal peasants would never dream of using bread on something so extravagant because bread was expensivebait
>>22016873>sh1t b8, m9
>>22018606>but it was perfected in americaWe pwefekted itweak bait
