I didn't want to believe it but the stretch and fold method is really superior to kneading. My KitchenAid is collecting dust.
I've always gotten better gluten development by kneading to the point of choosing to do it stretch and fold even though I don't have a mixer. Stretch and fold is still fine and good enough for square thicker pizzas.
>>22021268if you do a slower rise then you don't have to do anything at all beyond the initial mixing to make sure everything is 'corporated.
>>22021270>good enough for square thicker pizzasHow did you know that's what I've been making? What the FUCK.>>22021271Yeah I've done full-on no-knead doughs before and they're good but doing a couple stretch and folds every 30 minutes is not that much more effort and you can have good 'za on the same day.
>>22021282>How did you know that's what I've been making?Cause that's kind of the only pizza where it's genuinely at least as good as kneading. Also goddamn that's a lot of cheese lol
>>220212861:1 dough:cheese weight ratio is the bare minimum for deep dish. Nothing worse than a deep dish with not enough cheese.>Cause that's kind of the only pizza where it's genuinely at least as good as kneadingHmm I might have to test that theory this weekend. Just the way it feels in my hand tells me it should be just as good for hand tossed.
>>22021268nice bait, let's see the brioche made using folding only
>>22021348See deez nuts on yo chin ain't nobody making that faggot bread.
>>22021268I don't do anything. Just put flour water salt in a jar and leave it for 8 hours. When I come back, the dough is risen and bakes into a satisfying muffin.
>>22021366Sis, your leavening??
>>22021395It's the same jar from yesterday.
>>22021282>and you can have good 'za on the same day.i usually do 8 hours rises so i just prep the dough the night before if i want to bake in the morning, or prep in the morning for baking that evening. i've never done the multi day steps in the refrigerator.
>>22021268no knead dough is the way, it's not the 18th century anymore gramps
>>22021282Dat crisp edge hnnng
>>22021782LLoyd pans, brotha. Got one for my bar pies too.
>>22021395It's right there, 8 hours
it do be like that
>>22021268>spend 30+ minutes stretching and folding vs 5 minutes using a stand mixerI can tell you're larping and don't actually have a stand mixer. Hell I bet you don't even bake your own bread and you just saw a video on youtube about "no knead bread" and made this retarded thread.
>>22022716I have a PROFESSIONAL KitchenAid, good sir.
>>22022729Pivu?
>>22022729>laughs in HOBART
>>22022836I'ma need that shit homie.
